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***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 08:15 AM
Wright 101
Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Rev. Wright’s anti-Americanism

By Stanley Kurtz

It looks like Jeremiah Wright was just the tip of the iceberg. Not only did Barack Obama savor Wright’s sermons, Obama gave legitimacy — and a whole lot of money — to education programs built around the same extremist anti-American ideology preached by Reverend Wright. And guess what? Bill Ayers is still palling around with the same bitterly anti-American Afrocentric ideologues that he and Obama were promoting a decade ago. All this is revealed by a bit of digging, combined with a careful study of documents from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, the education foundation Obama and Ayers jointly led in the late 1990s.

John McCain, take note. Obama’s tie to Wright is no longer a purely personal question (if it ever was one) about one man’s choice of his pastor. The fact that Obama funded extremist Afrocentrists who shared Wright’s anti-Americanism means that this is now a matter of public policy, and therefore an entirely legitimate issue in this campaign.

African Village
In the winter of 1996, the Coalition for Improved Education in [Chicago’s] South Shore (CIESS) announced that it had received a $200,000 grant from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That made CIESS an “external partner,” i.e. a community organization linked to a network of schools within the Chicago public system. This network, named the “South Shore African Village Collaborative” was thoroughly “Afrocentric” in orientation. CIESS’s job was to use a combination of teacher-training, curriculum advice, and community involvement to improve academic performance in the schools it worked with. CIESS would continue to receive large Annenberg grants throughout the 1990s.

The South Shore African Village Collaborative (SSAVC) was very much a part of the Afrocentric “rites of passage movement,” a fringe education crusade of the 1990s. SSAVC schools featured “African-Centered” curricula built around “rites of passage” ceremonies inspired by the puberty rites found in many African societies. In and of themselves, these ceremonies were harmless. Yet the philosophy that accompanied them was not. On the contrary, it was a carbon-copy of Jeremiah Wright’s worldview.

Rites of Passage
To learn what the rites of passage movement was all about, we can turn to a sympathetic 1992 study published in the Journal of Negro Education by Nsenga Warfield-Coppock. In that article, Warfield-Coppock bemoans the fact that public education in the United States is shaped by “capitalism, competitiveness, racism, sexism and oppression.” According to Warfield-Coppock, these American values “have confused African American people and oriented them toward American definitions of achievement and success and away from traditional African values.” American socialization has “proven to be dysfuntional and genocidal to the African American community,” Warfield-Coppock tells us. The answer is the adolescent rites of passage movement, designed “to provide African American youth with the cultural information and values they would need to counter the potentially detrimental effects of a Eurocentrically oriented society.”

The adolescent rites of passage movement that flowered in the 1990s grew out of the “cultural nationalist” or “Pan-African” thinking popular in radical black circles of the 1960s and 1970s. The attempt to create a virtually separate and intensely anti-American black social world began to take hold in the mid-1980s in small private schools, which carefully guarded the contents of their controversial curricula. Gradually, through external partners like CIESS, the movement spread to a few public schools. Supporters view these programs as “a social and cultural ‘inoculation’ process that facilitates healthy, African-centered development among African American youth and protects them against the ravages of a racist, sexist, capitalist, and oppressive society.”

We know that SSAVC was part of this movement, not only because their Annenberg proposals were filled with Afrocentric themes and references to “rites of passage,” but also because SSAVC’s faculty set up its African-centered curriculum in consultation with some of the most prominent leaders of the “rites of passage movement.” For example, a CIESS teacher conference sponsored a presentation on African-centered curricula by Jacob Carruthers, a particularly controversial Afrocentrist.

Jacob Carruthers
Like other leaders of the rites of passage movement, Carruthers teaches that the true birthplace of world civilization was ancient “Kemet” (Egypt), from which Kemetic philosophy supposedly spread to Africa as a whole. Carruthers and his colleagues believe that the values of Kemetic civilization are far superior to the isolating and oppressive, ancient Greek-based values of European and American civilization. Although academic Egyptologists and anthropologists strongly reject these historical claims, Carruthers dismisses critics as part of a white supremacist conspiracy to hide the truth of African superiority.

Carruthers’s key writings are collected in his book, Intellectual Warfare. Reading it is a wild, anti-American ride. In his book, we learn that Carruthers and his like-minded colleagues have formed an organization called the Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations (ASCAC), which takes as its mission the need to “dismantle the European intellectual campaign to commit historicide against African peoples.” Carruthers includes “African-Americans” within a group he would define as simply “African.” When forced to describe a black person as “American,” Carruthers uses quotation marks, thus indicating that no black person can be American in any authentic sense. According to Carruthers, “The submission to Western civilization and its most outstanding offspring, American civilization, is, in reality, surrender to white supremacy.”

Carruthers’s goal is to use African-centered education to recreate a separatist universe within America, a kind of state-within-a-state. The rites of passage movement is central to the plan. Carruthers sees enemies on every part of the political spectrum, from conservatives, to liberals, to academic leftists, all of whom reject advocates of Kemetic civilization, like himself, as dangerous and academically irresponsible extremists. Carruthers sees all these groups as deluded captives of white supremacist Eurocentric culture. Therefore the only safe place for Africans living in the United States (i.e. American blacks) is outside the mental boundaries of our ineradicably racist Eurocentric civilization. As Carruthers puts it: “...some of us have chosen to reject the culture of our oppressors and recover our disrupted ancestral culture.” The rites of passage movement is a way to teach young Africans in the United States how to reject America and recover their authentic African heritage.

America as Rape
Carruthers admits that Africans living in America have already been shaped by Western culture, yet compares this Americanization process to rape: “We may not be able to get our virginity back after the rape, but we do not have to marry the rapist....” In other words, American blacks (i.e. Africans) may have been forcibly exposed to American culture, but that doesn’t mean they need to accept it. The better option, says Carruthers, is to separate out and relearn the wisdom of Africa’s original Kemetic culture, embodied in the teachings of the ancient wise man, Ptahhotep (an historical figure traditionally identified as the author of a Fifth Dynasty wisdom book). Anything less than re-Africanization threatens the mental, and even physical, genocide of Africans living in an ineradicably white supremacist United States.

Carruthers is a defender of Leonard Jeffries, professor in the department of black studies at City College in Harlem, infamous for his black supremacist and anti-Semitic views. Jeffries sees whites as oppressive and violent “ice people,” in contrast to peaceful and mutually supportive black “sun people.” The divergence says Jeffries, is attributable to differing levels of melanin in the skin. Jeffries also blames Jews for financing the slave trade. Carruthers defends Jeffries and excoriates the prestigious black academics Carruthers views as traitorous for denouncing their African brother, Jeffries. Carruthers’s vision of the superior and peaceful Kemetic philosophy of Ptahhotep triumphing over Greco-Euro-American-white culture obviously parallels Jeffries’ opposition between ice people and sun people.

More of Carruthers’s education philosophy can be found in his newsletter, The Kemetic Voice. In 1997, for example, at the same time Carruthers was advising SSAVC on how to set up an African-centered curriculum, he praised the decision of New Orleans’ School Board to remove the name of George Washington from an elementary school. Apparently, some officials in New Orleans had decided that nobody who held slaves should have a school named after him. Carruthers touted the name-change as proof that his African-centered perspective was finally having an effect on public policy. At the demise of George Washington School, Carruthers crowed: “These events remind us of how vast the gulf is that separates the Defenders of Western Civilization from the Champions of African Civilization.”

According to Chicago Annenberg Challenge records, Carruthers’s training session on African-centered curricula for SSAVC teachers was a huge hit: “As a consciousness raising session, it received rave reviews, and has prepared the way for the curriculum readiness survey....” These teacher-training workshops were directly funded by the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. Another sure sign of the ideological cast of SSAVC’s curriculum can be found in Annenberg documents noting that SSAVC students are taught the wisdom of Ptahhotep. Carruthers’s concerns about “menticide” and “genocide” at the hand of America’s white supremacist system seem to be echoed in an SSAVC document that says: “Our children need to understand the historical context of our struggles for liberation from those forces that seek to destroy us.”

When Jeremiah Wright turned toward African-centered thinking in the late 1980s and early 1990s (the period when, attracted by Wright’s African themes, Barack Obama first became a church member), many prominent thinkers from Carruthers’s Association for the Study of Classical African Civilizations were invited to speak at Trinity United Church of Christ, Carruthers himself included. We hear echoes of Carruthers’s work in Wright’s distinction between “right brained” Africans and “left brained” Europeans, in Wright’s fears of U.S. government-sponsored genocide against American blacks, and in Wright’s embittered attacks on America’s indelibly white-supremacist history. In Wright’s Trumpet Newsmagazine, as in Carruthers’s own writings, blacks are often referred to as “Africans living in the diaspora” rather than as Americans.

Asa Hilliard
Chicago Annenberg Challenge records also indicate that SSAVC educators invited Asa Hilliard, a pioneer of African-centered curricula and a close colleague of Carruthers, to offer a keynote address at yet another Annenberg-funded teacher training session. Hilliard’s ties to Wright run still deeper than Carruthers’s. A close Wright mentor and friend, Hilliard died in 2007 while on a trip to Kemet (Egypt) with Wright and members of Wright’s congregation. Hillard was scheduled to deliver several lectures to the congregants, and to speak at a meeting of the Association for the Study of Classical African Civilization, which he co-founded with Carruthers and other “African-centered” scholars. On that last trip, Hilliard accepted an appointment to the board of Wright’s new elementary school, Kwame Nkrumah Academy. Speaking of the need for such a school, Wright had earlier said, “We need to educate our children to the reality of white supremacy.” (For more on Wright’s Afrocentric school, see “Jeremiah Wright’s ‘Trumpet.’”)

Wright delivered the eulogy at Hilliard’s memorial service, with prominent members of ASCAC in the audience. To commemorate Hilliard, a special, two-cover double issue of Wright’s Trumpet Newsmagazine was published, with a picture of Hilliard on one side, and a picture of Louis Farrakhan on the other (in celebration of a 2007 award Farrakhan received from Wright). In short, the ties between Wright and Hilliard could hardly have been closer. Clearly, then, Wright’s own educational philosophy was mirrored at the Annenberg-funded SSAVC, which sought out Hilliard’s and Carruthers’s counsel to construct its curriculum.

Perhaps inadvertently, Wright’s eulogy for Hilliard actually established the fringe nature of his favorite African-centered scholars. In his tribute, Wright stressed how intensely “white Egyptologists recoiled at the very notion of everything Asa taught.” As Wright himself made plain, it seems virtually impossible to find respectable scholars of any political stripe who approve of the extremist anti-American version of Afrocentrism promoted by Hilliard and Carruthers.

Ayers’s Pals
An important exception to the rule is Bill Ayers himself, who not only worked with Obama to fund groups like this at the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, but who is still “palling around” with the same folks. Discretely waiting until after the election, Bill Ayers and his wife, and fellow former terrorist, Bernardine Dohrn plan to release a book in 2009 entitled Race Course Against White Supremacy. The book will be published by Third World Press, a press set up by Carruthers and other members of the ASCAC. Representatives of that press were prominently present for Wright’s eulogy at Asa Hilliard’s memorial service. Less than a decade ago, therefore, when it came to education issues, Barack Obama, Bill Ayers, and Jeremiah Wright were pretty much on the same page.

Obama’s Knowledge
Given the precedent of his earlier responses on Ayers and Wright, Obama might be inclined to deny personal knowledge of the educational philosophy he was so generously funding. Such a denial would not be convincing. For one thing, we have evidence that in 1995, the same year Obama assumed control of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, he publicly rejected “the unrealistic politics of integrationist assimilation,” a stance that clearly resonates with both Wright and Carruthers. (See “No Liberation.”)

And as noted, Wright had invited Carruthers, Hilliard, and like-minded thinkers to address his Trinity congregants. Wright likes to tick off his connections to these prominent Afrocentrists in sermons, and Obama would surely have heard of them. Reading over SSAVC’s Annenberg proposals, Obama could hardly be ignorant of what they were about. And if by some chance Obama overlooked Hilliard’s or Carruthers’s names, SSAVC’s proposals are filled with references to “rites of passage” and “Ptahhotep,” dead giveaways for the anti-American and separatist ideological concoction favored by SSAVC.

We know that Obama did read the proposals. Annenberg documents show him commenting on proposal quality. And especially after 1995, when concerns over self-dealing and conflicts of interest forced the Ayers-headed “Collaborative” to distance itself from monetary issues, all funding decisions fell to Obama and the board. Significantly, there was dissent within the board. One business leader and experienced grant-smith characterized the quality of most Annenberg proposals as “awful.” (See “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: The First Three Years,” p. 19.) Yet Obama and his very small and divided board kept the money flowing to ideologically extremist groups like the South Shore African Village Collaborative, instead of organizations focused on traditional educational achievement.

As if the content of SSAVC documents wasn’t warning enough, their proposals consistently misspelled “rites of passage” as “rights of passage,” hardly an encouraging sign from a group meant to improve children’s reading skills. The Chicago Annenberg Challenge’s own evaluators acknowledged that Annenberg-aided schools showed no improvement in achievement scores. Evaluators attributed that failure, in part, to the fact that many of Annenberg’s “external partners” had little educational expertise. A group that puts its efforts into Kwanzaa celebrations and half-baked history certainly fits that bill, and goes a long way toward explaining how Ayers and Obama managed to waste upwards of $150 million without improving student achievement.

However he may seek to deny it, all evidence points to the fact that, from his position as board chair of the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, Barack Obama knowingly and persistently funded an educational project that shared the extremist and anti-American philosophy of Jeremiah Wright. The Wright affair was no fluke. It’s time for McCain to say so.

— Stanley Kurtz is a senior fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center.





http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YTQ0YjhlOGVhYjQ0OWRhZjI2MmM4NTQ4NGM5Mjg0MzU=

KCJohnny
10-14-2008, 08:43 AM
I've been saying it all along. Theology matters. Obama's is Wright's, and Wright's is marxist. Enter at your own peril, America.

PunkinDrublic
10-14-2008, 08:54 AM
And yet you cons are still going to lose despite your shrill whining ROFL

patteeu
10-14-2008, 08:56 AM
Stanley Kurtz is a single man doing the job of an entire industry. Whatever he gets paid, he deserves a raise.

patteeu
10-14-2008, 09:02 AM
And yet you cons are still going to lose despite your shrill whining ROFL

So does that mean you acknowledge the truth of his statement?

mikey23545
10-14-2008, 09:06 AM
Perhaps Osama should be running for President of some African nation....

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 09:07 AM
And yet you cons are still going to lose despite your shrill whining ROFL

We lost when the primaries spit out McCain and B.O.

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 09:13 AM
No No No, You have it all wrong, This is Barrack Hussein Obama we are speaking about, The One.

I have said all along this man is lying and not telling the truth. Deception is his campaign.

October surprise ? Could be ?

PunkinDrublic
10-14-2008, 09:19 AM
So does that mean you acknowledge the truth of his statement?

I wouldn't trust anything coming out of a shit rag like the National Review.

patteeu
10-14-2008, 09:30 AM
We lost when the primaries spit out McCain and B.O.

Truth.

patteeu
10-14-2008, 09:36 AM
I wouldn't trust anything coming out of a shit rag like the National Review.

I feel you, man.

Messier
10-14-2008, 09:38 AM
Trying for that last push, huh?

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 09:53 AM
Trying for that last push, huh?

Why not, Obama lies and runs a campaign on deception.

patteeu
10-14-2008, 10:00 AM
Trying for that last push, huh?

Don't worry, the cover-up only needs to last 3 more weeks and you're golden.

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 10:19 AM
More Obama lies that he didn't hear any of the radical views and sermons of Rev. Wright.

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 10:20 AM
More Obama lies that he didn't hear any of the radical views and sermons of Rev. Wright.

Aren't you too busy for this?

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 10:26 AM
Aren't you too busy for this?

Oh, none of your concern.

Obo the Clown.

StcChief
10-14-2008, 10:51 AM
And yet you cons are still going to lose despite your shrill whining ROFLAmerica is the loser, the people just don't know it yet.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2008, 10:54 AM
Oh, none of your concern.

Obo the Clown.

I think the only clown here is you.

Is everyone in Kentucky such a dumbass or is it just restricted to you and your household?

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 11:00 AM
I think the only clown here is you.

Is everyone in Kentucky such a dumbass or is it just restricted to you and your household?

We got it from the Dane McCloud school of thought ........

Don't blame you are stupid enough to not understand that people have difference in opinions.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2008, 11:02 AM
We got it from the Dane McCloud school of thought ........

Don't blame you are stupid enough to not understand that people have difference in opinions.

Yeah, sure Roy.

I'M the one who continually posts stupid shit in this forum.

ROFL

Ultra Peanut
10-14-2008, 11:02 AM
lmbo look at that fukken dog

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 11:28 AM
Yeah, sure Roy.

I'M the one who continually posts stupid shit in this forum.

ROFL



Your problem is nothing more than mine, we do not see eye to eye on the issues and the candidates.

Thig Lyfe
10-14-2008, 11:41 AM
You guys are sad.

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 11:46 AM
I wouldn't trust anything coming out of a shit rag like the National Review.


KOS KID!

:LOL:

Chief Henry
10-14-2008, 12:15 PM
Aren't you too busy for this?

Does this not concern you in the least ?

Chief Henry
10-14-2008, 12:17 PM
I think the only clown here is you.

Is everyone in Kentucky such a dumbass or is it just restricted to you and your household?

The pertinent information in the article is of no value to you, is that correct ?

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 12:21 PM
I think the only clown here is you.

Is everyone in Kentucky such a dumbass or is it just restricted to you and your household?

More namecalling and provincial snobbery from McClod.

:ZZZ:

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 12:40 PM
Your problem is nothing more than mine, we do not see eye to eye on the issues and the candidates.

I tell you what...just admit you are a partisan hack that is only looking to slam Obama for this stuff and we can move on to the regular back forth having to do with your elementary level of writing and our disagreement on the issues.

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 12:43 PM
“We may not be able to get our virginity back after the rape, but we do not have to marry the rapist....”

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 12:51 PM
I tell you what...just admit you are a partisan hack that is only looking to slam Obama for this stuff and we can move on to the regular back forth having to do with your elementary level of writing and our disagreement on the issues.


Why would I do that ?

That's like saying you are a smartass punk with only one objective, that 's to ridicule people on the BB that you feel you are smarter than, doesn't matter if it be right or wrong. Your views are the only thing that matter to you, your ability to never see the opposite view allows you to always be and that you are never wrong.

You admit to this, I'll admit to the other.

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 01:05 PM
Why would I do that ?

That's like saying you are a smartass punk with only one objective, that 's to ridicule people on the BB that you feel you are smarter than, doesn't matter if it be right or wrong. Your views are the only thing that matter to you, your ability to never see the opposite view allows you to always be and that you are never wrong.

You admit to this, I'll admit to the other.

I welcome the views of others. I respect people's opinions that are not mine. Just not people that parade around like complete idiots and are not honest when they present them. There is a treshold...first of all you have to be able to write out thoughts that make sense...and second you have to be somewhat honest. You can't really bring yourself to be either of those.

You don't have to go back that far...Slag's thread that is still around. I couldn't disagree more with the guy on a lot of issues but respect his faith and the freedom that it provides deserves while backing anyone else's freedom of speech to say what they will about his chosen faith.

But, what are you even doing. You don't have time for this. And if you did have time you would be spending it looking into McCain's connections with ACORN. Right?

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 01:07 PM
Annenberg documents show him commenting on proposal quality. And especially after 1995, when concerns over self-dealing and conflicts of interest forced the Ayers-headed “Collaborative” to distance itself from monetary issues, all funding decisions fell to Obama and the board. Significantly, there was dissent within the board. One business leader and experienced grant-smith characterized the quality of most Annenberg proposals as “awful.” (See “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: The First Three Years,” p. 19.) Yet Obama and his very small and divided board kept the money flowing to ideologically extremist groups like the South Shore African Village Collaborative, instead of organizations focused on traditional educational achievement.

patteeu
10-14-2008, 01:26 PM
Annenberg documents show him commenting on proposal quality. And especially after 1995, when concerns over self-dealing and conflicts of interest forced the Ayers-headed “Collaborative” to distance itself from monetary issues, all funding decisions fell to Obama and the board. Significantly, there was dissent within the board. One business leader and experienced grant-smith characterized the quality of most Annenberg proposals as “awful.” (See “The Chicago Annenberg Challenge: The First Three Years,” p. 19.) Yet Obama and his very small and divided board kept the money flowing to ideologically extremist groups like the South Shore African Village Collaborative, instead of organizations focused on traditional educational achievement.

IMO, all of these collaborative associations are pretty damning. Not because it makes Obama a terrorist threat, but because they show how immersed in far left thinking and causes he's been since he was just a kid.

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 01:28 PM
I welcome the views of others. I respect people's opinions that are not mine. Just not people that parade around like complete idiots and are not honest when they present them. There is a treshold...first of all you have to be able to write out thoughts that make sense...and second you have to be somewhat honest. You can't really bring yourself to be either of those.

You don't have to go back that far...Slag's thread that is still around. I couldn't disagree more with the guy on a lot of issues but respect his faith and the freedom that it provides deserves while backing anyone else's freedom of speech to say what they will about his chosen faith.

But, what are you even doing. You don't have time for this. And if you did have time you would be spending it looking into McCain's connections with ACORN. Right?

Look, I'm as honesty as they get. I get to play you now,it " threshold " , OK. Ever go to school ? Now, see how stupid this looks when somebody makes a mistake, but yet we know what you meant.

My writing skills may not be what yours are,or somebody else's. But my damn opinions and views are mine, I have the same damn right as you have to express them or talk about them to someone.

You have the ability to not take place within that discussion, but you choose to , usually to attack in some way. But God Forbid if somebody attacks back. You and irishjayhawk, Mecca and a few others like to paint yourself up on this pedestal and fell all high and mighty. It doesn't work to me, you are just as much as a hypocrite as the next guy.

There are times in the day when I am busy, but you wish to make it a mockery. Your have no right to say when I comment or when I can't.


As far as McCain and Acorn, you want to know, you look it up. I don't care, I do not think McCain has ever worked for ACORN, that McCain didn't train ACORN members as Obama has. So whatever ties you find, post them, if it's as bad as Obama's, post it, I will call it like it is.

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 01:29 PM
IMO, all of these collaborative associations are pretty damning. Not because it makes Obama a terrorist threat, but because they show how immersed in far left thinking and causes he's been since he was just a kid.

Bingo, it was with kids, too. He has an education plan for America.

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 01:30 PM
The guy is a pscho.

Chief Henry
10-14-2008, 01:31 PM
IMO, all of these collaborative associations are pretty damning. Not because it makes Obama a terrorist threat, but because they show how immersed in far left thinking and causes he's been since he was just a kid.



He does have a long list of highly questionable alliances over his career thats for sure.

:shake:

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 01:33 PM
IMO, all of these collaborative associations are pretty damning. Not because it makes Obama a terrorist threat, but because they show how immersed in far left thinking and causes he's been since he was just a kid.

On top of that, look at the amount of dissembling and lying he does to conceal all of it.

The guy is a pyscho.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2008, 01:40 PM
More namecalling and provincial snobbery from McClod.

:ZZZ:


Why are you even here in this forum?

You're not a Chiefs fan.

You're just here to spread your fucking propaganda.

And believe me, it's not working.

BIG_DADDY
10-14-2008, 01:41 PM
I welcome the views of others. ROFL

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 01:43 PM
Why are you even here in this forum?

You're not a Chiefs fan.

You're just here to spread your ****ing propaganda.

And believe me, it's not working.

http://www.neverfindout.org/

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2008, 01:44 PM
http://www.neverfindout.org/

I hope you're getting paid to spread your bullshit.

patteeu
10-14-2008, 01:45 PM
On top of that, look at the amount of dissembling and lying he does to conceal all of it.

Absolutely.

I'm thinking about printing up a bunch of "Obama Lied America Died" t-shirts to use for barter in case we all lose our jobs and end up on the street. ;)

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 01:48 PM
I hope you're getting paid to spread your bullshit.

Go give grandma a bath.

nychief
10-14-2008, 01:49 PM
wow another Kurtz special...

Specious Logic? Check.
Unsubstantiated claims? Check.
Fear mongering? Check.

For all the puffy chestedness of the conservative movement - they sure act like a bunch of scared pussies... always looking for the boogey man.

I guess this was bound to happen with such a lousy candidate for prez.

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 01:51 PM
Carruthers is a defender of Leonard Jeffries, professor in the department of black studies at City College in Harlem, infamous for his black supremacist and anti-Semitic views. Jeffries sees whites as oppressive and violent “ice people,” in contrast to peaceful and mutually supportive black “sun people.” The divergence says Jeffries, is attributable to differing levels of melanin in the skin. Jeffries also blames Jews for financing the slave trade. Carruthers defends Jeffries and excoriates the prestigious black academics Carruthers views as traitorous for denouncing their African brother, Jeffries. Carruthers’s vision of the superior and peaceful Kemetic philosophy of Ptahhotep triumphing over Greco-Euro-American-white culture obviously parallels Jeffries’ opposition between ice people and sun people.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2008, 02:00 PM
Go give grandma a bath.

Excuse me?

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 02:09 PM
wow another Kurtz special...

Specious Logic? Check.
Unsubstantiated claims? Check.
Fear mongering? Check.

For all the puffy chestedness of the conservative movement - they sure act like a bunch of scared pussies... always looking for the boogey man.

I guess this was bound to happen with such a lousy candidate for prez.

This places Obama with them........

African Village
In the winter of 1996, the Coalition for Improved Education in [Chicago’s] South Shore (CIESS) announced that it had received a $200,000 grant from the Chicago Annenberg Challenge. That made CIESS an “external partner,” i.e. a community organization linked to a network of schools within the Chicago public system. This network, named the “South Shore African Village Collaborative” was thoroughly “Afrocentric” in orientation. CIESS’s job was to use a combination of teacher-training, curriculum advice, and community involvement to improve academic performance in the schools it worked with. CIESS would continue to receive large Annenberg grants throughout the 1990s.

Calcountry
10-14-2008, 02:13 PM
I hope you're getting paid to spray your shit.FYP.

BucEyedPea
10-14-2008, 02:20 PM
Absolutely.

I'm thinking about printing up a bunch of "Obama Lied America Died" t-shirts to use for barter in case we all lose our jobs and end up on the street. ;)

You won't because you'll have a living wage. You may just have to wait in a long line to pick up that paycheck. Me, I'm just not gonna work.

StcChief
10-14-2008, 02:20 PM
More namecalling and provincial snobbery from McClod.

:ZZZ: from the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia... our PC Socialist state.

Ultra Peanut
10-14-2008, 02:26 PM
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patteeu
10-14-2008, 03:36 PM
You won't because you'll have a living wage. You may just have to wait in a long line to pick up that paycheck. Me, I'm just not gonna work.

Good point.

Here's something you won't be surprised to hear. ACORN founder Wade Rathke was a protege of a militant black organizer named George Wiley. Wiley ran an organization called the National Welfare Rights Organization. He applied a radical strategy known as the Cloward-Piven strategy (http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6967) in an effort to force a federal living wage.

DaneMcCloud
10-14-2008, 03:38 PM
from the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia... our PC Socialist state.

Says the racist POS from Missouri

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 03:38 PM
from the Peoples Republic of Kalifornia... our PC Socialist state.

Is that where McClod lives? Figures.

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|Zach|
10-14-2008, 03:42 PM
Thats the thing. You are wrong. Just plain wrong. You say one thing but the REALITY doesn't match up.

Look, I'm as honesty as they get. I get to play you now,it " threshold " , OK. Ever go to school ? Now, see how stupid this looks when somebody makes a mistake, but yet we know what you meant.

The word treshold? Look it up (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/threshold). There is nothing wrong with its usage in my post.


My writing skills may not be what yours are,or somebody else's. But my damn opinions and views are mine, I have the same damn right as you have to express them or talk about them to someone.
Nobody is saying you don't have the right to express your opinions. :spock:


You have the ability to not take place within that discussion, but you choose to , usually to attack in some way. But God Forbid if somebody attacks back. You and irishjayhawk, Mecca and a few others like to paint yourself up on this pedestal and fell all high and mighty. It doesn't work to me, you are just as much as a hypocrite as the next guy.
I don't see the problem here. You are able to express your opinions and others are able to express theirs.


There are times in the day when I am busy, but you wish to make it a mockery. Your have no right to say when I comment or when I can't.

Here is another great example. You say I made a mockery about you not having time. Nobody can be on here 24\7. I don't mock people because of that. I was mocking YOU because you said you didn't have time for this but kept churning out post after post after post. And you are still at it.


As far as McCain and Acorn, you want to know, you look it up. I don't care, I do not think McCain has ever worked for ACORN, that McCain didn't train ACORN members as Obama has. So whatever ties you find, post them, if it's as bad as Obama's, post it, I will call it like it is.

Of course you don't care about McCain's involvement. You are a partisan hack. Which isn't a problem. You have the right to be that hack. Might as well own it though.

BIG_DADDY
10-14-2008, 03:47 PM
Of course you don't care about McCain's involvement. You are a partisan hack. Which isn't a problem. You have the right to be that hack. Might as well own it though.

Hey look, the pot is calling the kettle black.

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 03:49 PM
Hey look, the pot is calling the kettle black.

Shouldn't you be busy packing up your family and running away?

I can't believe you can quell your fear of the black helicopters enough to even post on this board.

BIG_DADDY
10-14-2008, 03:53 PM
Shouldn't you be busy packing up your family and running away?

I quell your fear the black helicopters enough to even post on this board.

Jeez, good come back. ROFL

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 03:55 PM
Jeez, good come back. ROFL

Come back? It was a question. I am sure it would take a lot of planning to flee the country in fear.

BIG_DADDY
10-14-2008, 03:57 PM
Come back? It was a question. I am sure it would take a lot of planning to flee the country in fear.

Where do you come up with this shit? Have another :bong:

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 03:59 PM
:bong:
Not my thing...

ROYC75
10-14-2008, 03:59 PM
The word treshold? Look it up (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/threshold). There is nothing wrong with its usage in my post.

I did, I get nothing . http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/treshold



Here is another great example. You say I made a mockery about you not having time. Nobody can be on here 24\7. I don't mock people because of that. I was mocking YOU because you said you didn't have time for this but kept churning out post after post after post. And you are still at it.

YOU DO, ALL THE TIME.

Of course you don't care about McCain's involvement. You are a partisan hack. Which isn't a problem. You have the right to be that hack. Might as well own it though.


So says an obot


Need I say More ?

PRIEST
10-14-2008, 03:59 PM
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Fuggin great :clap:

J Diddy
10-14-2008, 04:02 PM
Fuggin great :clap:

yeah rock

greased lightning greased lightning

BIG_DADDY
10-14-2008, 04:04 PM
Not my thing...

Then where do you come up with this stuff?

J Diddy
10-14-2008, 04:05 PM
Then where do you come up with this stuff?


vaccinations gave him intelligence

who'd a thunk?

|Zach|
10-14-2008, 04:15 PM
Then where do you come up with this stuff?
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5115455#post5115455

BIG_DADDY
10-14-2008, 04:23 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5115455#post5115455

So leaving the country after my P's pass which shouldn't be for awhile is running away out of fear to you? Got it.

No, it has a lot more to do with wanting to live in a country with less legisaltion where I will get more bang for my buck and not be overtaxed.

Thig Lyfe
10-14-2008, 04:27 PM
The guy is a pscho.

The guy is a pyscho.

Third time's a charm?

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 05:19 PM
So leaving the country after my P's pass which shouldn't be for awhile is running away out of fear to you? Got it.

No, it has a lot more to do with wanting to live in a country with less legisaltion where I will get more bang for my buck and not be overtaxed.


I'm going to Brazil.