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Donger
10-14-2008, 03:34 PM
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10142008/postopinion/opedcolumnists/the_o_jesse_knows_133450.htm?page=0

PREPARE for a new America: That's the message that the Rev. Jesse Jackson conveyed to participants in the first World Policy Forum, held at this French lakeside resort last week.

He promised "fundamental changes" in US foreign policy - saying America must "heal wounds" it has caused to other nations, revive its alliances and apologize for the "arrogance of the Bush administration."

The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end.

Jackson believes that, although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

"Obama is about change," Jackson told me in a wide-ranging conversation. "And the change that Obama promises is not limited to what we do in America itself. It is a change of the way America looks at the world and its place in it."

Jackson warns that he isn't an Obama confidant or adviser, "just a supporter." But he adds that Obama has been "a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family." Jackson's son has been a close friend of Obama for years, and Jackson's daughter went to school with Obama's wife Michelle.

"We helped him start his career," says Jackson. "And then we were always there to help him move ahead. He is the continuation of our struggle for justice not only for the black people but also for all those who have been wronged."

Will Obama's election close the chapter of black grievances linked to memories of slavery? The reverend takes a deep breath and waits a long time before responding.

"No, that chapter won't be closed," he says. "However, Obama's victory will be a huge step in the direction we have wanted America to take for decades."

Jackson rejects any suggestion that Obama was influenced by Marxist ideas in his youth. "I see no evidence of that," he says. "Obama's thirst for justice and equality is rooted in his black culture."

But is Obama - who's not a descendant of slaves - truly a typical American black?

Jackson emphatically answers yes: "You don't need to be a descendant of slaves to experience the oppression, the suffocating injustice and the ugly racism that exists in our society," he says. "Obama experienced the same environment as all American blacks did. It was nonsense to suggest that he was somehow not black enough to feel the pain."

Is Jackson worried about the "Bradley effect" - that people may be telling pollsters they favor the black candidate, but won't end up voting for him?

"I don't think this is how things will turn out," he says. "We have a collapsing economy and a war that we have lost in Iraq. In Afghanistan, we face a resurgent Taliban. New threats are looming in Pakistan. Our liberties have been trampled under feet . . . Today, most Americans want change, and know that only Barack can deliver what they want. Young Americans are especially determined to make sure that Obama wins."

He sees a broad public loss of confidence in the nation's institutions: "We have lost confidence in our president, our Congress, our banking system, our Wall Street and our legal system to protect our individual freedoms. . . I don't see how we could regain confidence in all those institutions without a radical change of direction."

Jackson declines to be more concrete about possible policy changes. After all, he insists, he isn't part of Obama's policy team. Yet he clearly hopes that his views, reflecting the position of many Democrats, would be reflected in the policies of an Obama administration.

On the economic front, he hopes for "major changes in our trading policy."

"We cannot continue with the open-door policy," he says. "We need to protect our manufacturing industry against unfair competition that destroys American jobs and creates ill-paid jobs abroad."

Would that mean an abrogation of the NAFTA treaty with Canada and Mexico?

Jackson dismisses the question as "premature": "We could do a great deal without such dramatic action."

His most surprising position concerns Iraq. He passionately denounces the toppling of Saddam Hussein as "an illegal and unjust act." But he's now sure that the United States "will have to remain in Iraq for a very long time."

What of Obama's promise to withdraw by 2010? Jackson believes that position will have to evolve, reflecting "realities on the ground."

"We should work with our allies in Iraq to consolidate democratic institutions there," he says. "We must help the people of Iraq decide and shape their future in accordance with their own culture and faith."

On Iran, he strongly supports Obama's idea of opening a direct dialogue with the leadership in Tehran. "We've got to talk to tell them what we want and hear what they want," Jackson says. "Nothing is gained by not talking to others."

Would that mean ignoring the four UN Security Council resolutions that demand an end to Iran's uranium-enrichment program? Jackson says direct talks wouldn't start without preparations.

"Barack wants an aggressive and dynamic diplomacy," he says. "He also wants adequate preparatory work. We must enter the talks after the ground has been prepared," he says.

Jackson is especially critical of President Bush's approach to the Israel-Palestine conflict.

"Bush was so afraid of a snafu and of upsetting Israel that he gave the whole thing a miss," Jackson says. "Barack will change that," because, as long as the Palestinians haven't seen justice, the Middle East will "remain a source of danger to us all."

"Barack is determined to repair our relations with the world of Islam and Muslims," Jackson says. "Thanks to his background and ecumenical approach, he knows how Muslims feel while remaining committed to his own faith."

HolmeZz
10-14-2008, 03:35 PM
a jibbity jibbity rat a tat tat

PRIEST
10-14-2008, 03:37 PM
Nobody gives a shit about Jesse Jackson.

Demonpenz
10-14-2008, 03:37 PM
yabba dabba dooo

Taco John
10-14-2008, 03:37 PM
I didn't read the article, but Didn't Jesse want to cut Obama's nuts off?

I thought America pretty much agreed at that time that the guy is a clown who nobody needs to listen to anymore.

Why is Donger?

Donger
10-14-2008, 03:45 PM
I didn't read the article, but Didn't Jesse want to cut Obama's nuts off?

I thought America pretty much agreed at that time that the guy is a clown who nobody needs to listen to anymore.

Why is Donger?

Apparently, Jesse Jackson knows Barack Hussein rather well. I would think that people would like to learn more about him from someone who actually knows him.

***SPRAYER
10-14-2008, 06:10 PM
Bring it.

Taco John
10-14-2008, 06:23 PM
Apparently, Jesse Jackson knows Barack Hussein rather well. I would think that people would like to learn more about him from someone who actually knows him.



Are you for real?

Donger
10-14-2008, 06:23 PM
Are you for real?

Yes.

Direckshun
10-14-2008, 06:29 PM
Actually, Jesse Jackson has done nothing little else but criticize Obama since the day he announced his candidacy for President.

You're a joke, Donger.

Donger
10-14-2008, 06:38 PM
Actually, Jesse Jackson has done nothing little else but criticize Obama since the day he announced his candidacy for President.

You're a joke, Donger.

I don't think that's accurate at all. Mr. Jackson seems to be quite supportive, albeit with occasional gaffes.

Direckshun
10-14-2008, 06:40 PM
I don't think that's accurate at all. Mr. Jackson seems to be quite supportive, albeit with occasional gaffes.

Hold on... what exactly do you have to go on to lead you to believe Jesse Jackson knows Obama well?

Donger
10-14-2008, 06:42 PM
Hold on... what exactly do you have to go on to lead you to believe Jesse Jackson knows Obama well?

I said "apparently." This:
"Jackson warns that he isn't an Obama confidant or adviser, "just a supporter." But he adds that Obama has been "a neighbor or, better still, a member of the family." Jackson's son has been a close friend of Obama for years"

StcChief
10-14-2008, 07:21 PM
Surprise... another cabinet post in the wings.

Garcia Bronco
10-14-2008, 09:52 PM
Surprise... another cabinet post in the wings.

That would be interesting. Giving a Jackson any Government position would say that Obama is pretty much off his rocker.

Chiefshrink
10-14-2008, 10:29 PM
Hold on... what exactly do you have to go on to lead you to believe Jesse Jackson knows Obama well?

Jackson's son is fairly high up in the O campaign and I'm sure there is a lot of info that gets passed on:thumb:

KCJohnny
10-14-2008, 10:36 PM
That would be interesting. Giving a Jackson any Government position would say that Obama is pretty much off his rocker.

Funny, most of us who brought up his other ministerial associations (Jeremiah Wright, Father Pfleger and Louis Farrakhan who says Barack is the messiah) got shouted down when we tried to tie him to his loony clergy friends.

The Farrakhan/Obama junta is telling by Jackson's warning shot to American Jews:

The most important change would occur in the Middle East, where "decades of putting Israel's interests first" would end.

Jackson believes that, although "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" remain strong, they'll lose a great deal of their clout when Barack Obama enters the White House.

Amnorix
10-15-2008, 06:08 AM
Apparently, Jesse Jackson knows Barack Hussein rather well. I would think that people would like to learn more about him from someone who actually knows him.

And why do you think this?

BigRedChief
10-15-2008, 06:10 AM
Why do you think they have him out of the country during the election? He's a loose cannon.

patteeu
10-15-2008, 06:41 AM
Hold on... what exactly do you have to go on to lead you to believe Jesse Jackson knows Obama well?

In addition to what others have said about his son, Jackson's daughter went to school with Michelle Obama, FWIW. No word on whether or not she was able to take pride in the America that afforded her such a high standard of living and lofty education at the time.

KILLER_CLOWN
10-15-2008, 08:33 AM
Poverty Pimps unite!!!!!!!!

MaxFects
10-15-2008, 04:07 PM
So the story is taking off and now Jesse and Obama have responded

Jesse:
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1222017541219&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Jackson himself also denounced Taheri for "selectively imposing his own point of view and distorting mine" in the column that was published Tuesday.

I stand forthrightly for the security and stability of Israel, its protection from any form of hostility and a peaceful, nonviolent resolution to coexisting with its Palestinian neighbors," Jackson said. The statement added that he "has never had a conversation with Sen. Obama about Israel or the Middle East."


Obama
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/10/obama-camp-resp.html

ďRev. Jesse Jackson Sr. is not an adviser to the Obama campaign and is therefore in no position to interpret or share Barack Obama's views on Israel and foreign policy. As he has made clear throughout his career and throughout this campaign, Barack Obama has a fundamental commitment to a strong U.S.-Israel relationship, and he is advised by people like Dennis Ross, Daniel Kurtzer, Rep. Robert Wexler, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Senator Joe Biden, who share that commitment. As president, he will ensure that Israel can defend itself from every threat it faces, stand with Israel in its quest for a secure peace with its neighbors, and use all elements of American power to end Iranís illicit nuclear program. No false charges can change Barack Obamaís unshakeable commitment to Israelís security."