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Direckshun
10-15-2008, 04:00 PM
So now, in addition to giving the conservative hack Bill Bennett his own show on the channel...

...CNN has given DL Hughley a show.

DL.

Hughley.

They're doing it to themselves.

triple
10-15-2008, 04:01 PM
so that's two conservatives working in the whole place eh

Donger
10-15-2008, 04:02 PM
Pretty soon, they'll be as fair and balanced as Fox News is.

BIG_DADDY
10-15-2008, 04:02 PM
It's not like the Communist News Network to let any conservative on. I can see why you are concerned.

dirk digler
10-15-2008, 04:03 PM
Pretty soon, they'll be as fair and balanced as Fox News is.

Fox News doesn't have 1 liberal that has their own show.

So I would say CNN is ahead

penchief
10-15-2008, 04:24 PM
so that's two conservatives working in the whole place eh

Don't forget Glenn Beck. CNN is just another branch of the corporate media that subsidizes the corporate-driven republican agenda.

Out of curiousity, who are the liberals who have their own opinion-based shows on CNN?

Chief Henry
10-15-2008, 04:26 PM
Don't forget Glenn Beck. CNN is just another branch of the corporate media that subsidizes the corporate-driven republican agenda.

Out of curiousity, who are the liberals who have their own opinion-based shows on CNN?

Who are the conservatives that have their own opion based show on MSNBC ?

Bowser
10-15-2008, 04:27 PM
Bill Maher is shaking in his boots.

SNR
10-15-2008, 04:28 PM
I don't understand why people think CNN is so fucking great. About the only good thing that I can think of is that it's not Fox News.

I'm not at all surprised that they put this garbage on.

Oh, and Anderson Cooper? HE'S GAY.

RJ
10-15-2008, 04:29 PM
Who are the moderates who have their own opinion based shows on The Food Network?

SNR
10-15-2008, 04:33 PM
Don't forget Glenn Beck. CNN is just another branch of the corporate media that subsidizes the corporate-driven republican agenda.

Out of curiousity, who are the liberals who have their own opinion-based shows on CNN?Glenn is as much a Republican as you are a socialist.

If you call yourself a socialist based a few views you share, then I guess Glenn can be a Republican too

penchief
10-15-2008, 04:33 PM
Who are the conservatives that have their own opion based show on MSNBC ?

I thought we were talking about CNN. You know, the Communist News Network.

I've readily confessed that the MSNBC lineup of Olberman and Maddow are liberal. However, Matthews is more middle of the road than conservatives will admit. And Gregory is not remotely biased. In fact, Matthews pisses me off as much as he pleases me and Gregory is too easy too often on republicans to be considered anything but slightly leaning to the right.

Have you ever watched the Maddow show? Even though she is a liberal she is very talented and offers well-reasoned arguments and sound logic when whuppin' up on the conservatives that visit her show. Just ask David Frum.

SNR
10-15-2008, 04:37 PM
I'M CHRIS MATTHEWS LET'S PLAY SOME HAWD BAWLL

triple
10-15-2008, 04:40 PM
Don't forget Glenn Beck. CNN is just another branch of the corporate media that subsidizes the corporate-driven republican agenda.

Out of curiousity, who are the liberals who have their own opinion-based shows on CNN?

All the news CNN reports (or doesn't) is opinion-based.

dirk digler
10-15-2008, 04:44 PM
I don't understand why people think CNN is so ****ing great. About the only good thing that I can think of is that it's not Fox News.

I'm not at all surprised that they put this garbage on.

Oh, and Anderson Cooper? HE'S GAY.

Out of all the shows they have by far the best political team and they are split evenly between right and left.

jidar
10-15-2008, 04:46 PM
Who uses TV to get news these days anyway? Use a news aggregate, like google
Then if you want to read about something you can find multiple articles and get a less biased view.

Chief Henry
10-15-2008, 04:52 PM
I thought we were talking about CNN. You know, the Communist News Network.

I've readily confessed that the MSNBC lineup of Olberman and Maddow are liberal. However, Matthews is more middle of the road than conservatives will admit. And Gregory is not remotely biased. In fact, Matthews pisses me off as much as he pleases me and Gregory is too easy too often on republicans to be considered anything but slightly leaning to the right.

Have you ever watched the Maddow show? Even though she is a liberal she is very talented and offers well-reasoned arguments and sound logic when whuppin' up on the conservatives that visit her show. Just ask David Frum.

Not much...to me she appears to be an Olberman wanna be. Channell surfing about about 2 weeks ago, my wife wondered who the dike was when I stopped at Rachels show and my wife never watches political shows. She hates them and she read Madow like a glove w/o knowing anything about her.

penchief
10-15-2008, 04:55 PM
All the news CNN reports (or doesn't) is opinion-based.

Your basing that on a Fox News/WWF Wrestling perspective of news reporting. Your far-right perspective doesn't allow you to recognize where the center really is.

When one looks at the subtle approach that all the corporate networks employ when it comes to programming and coverage of the issues you will see that they ignore negative stories about the establishment candidates (McCain) while dwelling on the accusations against anti-establishment candidates (Obama) by the establishment and it's candidates.

It's amazing the Rev. Wright is still a story while Palin's witchdoctor has never been a story. It's befuddling how Ayers is the biggest story going while Todd Palin has never been considered a story.

McCain's ties to lobbyists for Georgia, Saddam Hussein, Fannie & Freddie, the banking industry, etc. who work in his campaign? Not a story. McCain's steady stream of lies and misrepresentations? Not a story. Palin's abuses of power? Not a story. Palin's steady stream of stupid and blatant lies? Not a story?

Palin and McCain's attacks on Obama? Big Story. Does the media call McCain and Palin on their blatant lies or do they let them repeat them over and over again without saying a peep? They let them repeat them. Yet, they are eager to challenge democratic operatives on issues even when the facts are in their corner.

You just need to pay closer attention. That's all. The corporate media is driven by it's own agenda. General Electric, the owners of NBC, is the seventh largest weapons manufacturer in the world. As a proud member of the military industrial complex they have received over 3 billion dollars in contracts over the past twenty four months alone. No wonder NBC and MSNBC didn't protest when the Bush Administration was lying us into an ill-conceived and unjustified invasion and occupation of a country that did nothing to us.

ABC, CBS, CNN, and Fox are no different. They are corporate entities that benefit from and support the corpo-republican establishment.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:00 PM
They are simply positioning themselves to be ready for the pendulum to swing back the other way after people wake up and realize WTF they've done electing NObama.

This will leave MSNBC out there as the only state propaganda machine.

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:03 PM
They are simply positioning themselves to be ready for the pendulum to swing back the other way after people wake up and realize WTF they've done electing NObama.

We know, you said people were about to wake up about Obama 6 months ago. You also made countless threads/posts going on and on about how unelectable he was. How right you were, how right you were.

Robo-Chachi
10-15-2008, 06:08 PM
It's obvious what CNN thinks of Republicans.

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memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:09 PM
We know, you said people were about to wake up about Obama 6 months ago. You also made countless threads/posts going on and on about how unelectable he was. How right you were, how right you were.

Just wait. I also warned about what would happen if he were elected. Just wait.

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:10 PM
Just wait. I also warned about what would happen if he were elected. Just wait.

Yes, I know. You warned us that he was unelectable and then you warned us about what would happen if he got elected. Run along now, idiot.

Robo-Chachi
10-15-2008, 06:11 PM
Ladies and gentlemen, Nostradomus.

banyon
10-15-2008, 06:12 PM
Who are the conservatives that have their own opion based show on MSNBC ?

Isn't Joe Scarborough still on MSNBC? And don't they prominently feature Pat Buchanan all over the place?

(I'm actually asking, I never watch it as it is too pundit-y for me).

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:27 PM
Yes, I know. You warned us that he was unelectable and then you warned us about what would happen if he got elected. Run along now, idiot.

You are counting your chickens. I am still not convinced he'll win. And it would be soooooooooo sweet to see the smug Obots astonished because the win they thought was in the bank actually wasn't.

I'd love to see that consession speech. I digress, I'm a hopeless optimist.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:29 PM
Isn't Joe Scarborough still on MSNBC? And don't they prominently feature Pat Buchanan all over the place?

(I'm actually asking, I never watch it as it is too pundit-y for me).

Joe Scarborough is conservative but he is on a show that features a liberal and a panel that is normally quite balanced. Pat Buchanan is also on MSNBC but he's a featured guest and does not have his own show.

There is not one hard core conservative who has their own hour like Keith and Keith lite have.

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:32 PM
I am still not convinced he'll win.

I'm not letting you straddle the fence on this. Go on the record. Will Obama or won't Obama win?

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:33 PM
Joe Scarborough is conservative but he is on a show that features a liberal and a panel that is normally quite balanced. Pat Buchanan is also on MSNBC but he's a featured guest and does not have his own show.

There is not one hard core conservative who has their own hour like Keith and Keith lite have.

Tucker Carlson did and his show tanked. Scarborough had his own primetime/late night show until he moved to the mornings.

penchief
10-15-2008, 06:33 PM
Isn't Joe Scarborough still on MSNBC? And don't they prominently feature Pat Buchanan all over the place?

(I'm actually asking, I never watch it as it is too pundit-y for me).

Yes, Joe Scarbogough has three hours every morning and he uses that three hours to push his conservative agenda by calling the very corporate media that employs him "liberal."

penchief
10-15-2008, 06:34 PM
Joe Scarborough is conservative but he is on a show that features a liberal and a panel that is normally quite balanced. Pat Buchanan is also on MSNBC but he's a featured guest and does not have his own show.

There is not one hard core conservative who has their own hour like Keith and Keith lite have.

But Buchanan is on every single show every single night. He gets more airtime than those who do have their own show.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:35 PM
I'm not letting you straddle the fence on this. Go on the record. Will Obama or won't Obama win?

ROFLROFLROFL

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:36 PM
But Buchanan is on every single show every single night. He gets more airtime than those who do have their own show.

That is an exaggeration. He's on quite a bit but for the longest time he was THE token conservative.

My man, moderate and thoughtful Dan, was removed and replaced by a way more liberal Rachel Madcow.

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:36 PM
ROFLROFLROFL

That's what I thought. That's what we all thought. You're gutless and too scared to take a stand. Vintage CCW. It's why no one takes you seriously.

Captain Obvious
10-15-2008, 06:37 PM
You are counting your chickens. I am still not convinced he'll win. And it would be soooooooooo sweet to see the smug Obots astonished because the win they thought was in the bank actually wasn't.

I'd love to see that consession speech. I digress, I'm a hopeless optimist.

You haven't backed many winners in your life, have you? But then again, it's probably how you want it so you can continue to bitch and moan about everything.

Logical
10-15-2008, 06:37 PM
I don't understand why people think CNN is so ****ing great. About the only good thing that I can think of is that it's not Fox News.

I'm not at all surprised that they put this garbage on.

Oh, and Anderson Cooper? HE'S GAY.Even if he is Gay, what is wrong with that?

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:38 PM
That's what I thought. That's what we all thought. You're gutless and too scared to take a stand. Vintage CCW. It's why no one takes you seriously.

Oh, I'll take a stand. I'm just not going to do it in response to your post because you think you 'aren't going to let me.'

Go fugg yourself.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:39 PM
You haven't backed many winners in your life, have you? But then again, it's probably how you want it so you can continue to bitch and moan about everything.

I actually have but not while a member of the Democratic Party. You are right. Thus, they get my money and membership NO MO.

penchief
10-15-2008, 06:39 PM
You are counting your chickens. I am still not convinced he'll win. And it would be soooooooooo sweet to see the smug Obots astonished because the win they thought was in the bank actually wasn't.

I'd love to see that consession speech. I digress, I'm a hopeless optimist.

The only people that I have noticed being smug when it comes to Obama are the NObots like yourself.

I am certainly not counting my chickens before they hatch because I never underestimate what the republican establishment is capable of doing in order to win. Especially when those efforts are aided and abetted by the coporate media.

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:40 PM
Oh, I'll take a stand. I'm just not going to do it in response to your post because you think you 'aren't going to let me.'

Go fugg yourself.

You're doing exactly what I'm accusing you of. You're being a coward. Answer the question.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:40 PM
The only person that I have noticed being smug when it comes to Obama is the NObots like yourself.

I am certainly not counting my chickens before they hatch because I never underestimate what the republican establishment is capable of doing in order to win. Especially when those efforts are aided and abetted by the coporate media.

You obviously haven't been paying attention to the die hards on the board. Yourself notwithstanding.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:41 PM
You're doing exactly what I'm accusing you of. You're being a coward. Answer the question.

No, I'm not being a coward. I am not responding to you because you are a jackass. I'll give my final analysis when I'm good and ready and it will not be in response to you. If that isn't good enough for you then tough chit, man.

banyon
10-15-2008, 06:42 PM
I actually have but not while a member of the Democratic Party. You are right. Thus, they get my money and membership NO MO.

We do not miss you. Please stay away.

penchief
10-15-2008, 06:43 PM
You obviously haven't been paying attention to the die hards on the board. Yourself notwithstanding.

Constantly referring to Obama supporters as Obots is a sign of smugness, IMO. I haven't recognized that same level of smugness on a consistent basis from any Obama supporters the way I've seen it from you.

Sorry, JMHO.

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:43 PM
No, I'm not being a coward. I am not responding to you because you are a jackass. I'll answer it when I'm good and ready. If that isn't good enough for you then tough chit, man.

You don't want to put your chips in because it doesn't look good for McCain. That's EXACTLY why you're a coward and it's typical of most of the 'stands' you take on this forum. You piss and moan about everything under the sun, but you don't take an actual 'stand' until you like how your odds look. You're gutless.

Now answer a f*cking question for once. Is Obama going to win the election or not?

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:43 PM
We do not miss you. Please stay away.

Not yet, anyway. Don't worry, I won't rejoin as long as RePO (Reid, Pelosi, Obama) are in charge of the party.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:44 PM
You don't want to put your chips in because it doesn't look good for McCain. That's EXACTLY why you're a coward and it's typical of most of the 'stands' you take on this forum. You piss and moan about everything under the sun, but you don't take an actual 'stand' until you like how your odds look.

Now answer the f*cking question. Is Obama going to win the election or not?

Not going to do it. Na, na, na. ROFL

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:45 PM
Constantly referring to Obama supporters as Obots is a sign of smugness, IMO. I haven't recognized that same level of smugness on a consistent basis from any Obama supporters the way I've seen it from you.

Sorry, JMHO.

Not all Obama supporters are Obots...

all Obots ARE Obama supporters. :doh!:

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:46 PM
I think most everyone realizes you believe Obama's going to win. If you genuinely believed McCain was going to win you'd want to make sure you went on record about it, especially with his odds looking the way they are. Instead, you'll either hold out on ever making a prediction or you'll swoop in and say "I TOLD YOU SO" if the polls reverse the current trend. You are predictable if not gutless.

And that's the point. You don't have the guts right now to predict McCain is going to win.

Sully
10-15-2008, 06:48 PM
Have you ever watched the Maddow show? Even though she is a liberal she is very talented and offers well-reasoned arguments and sound logic when whuppin' up on the conservatives that visit her show. Just ask David Frum.

I haven't watched her show, but used to listen to her radio show, and I was very impressed. I'd say her and Stephanie Miller are the two I like the best.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:51 PM
I haven't watched her show, but used to listen to her radio show, and I was very impressed. I'd say her and Stephanie Miller are the two I like the best.

Her show is basically Keith lite. Keith without the johnson and toupe. :doh!:

HolmeZz
10-15-2008, 06:53 PM
CCW used to love her some Olbermann. She used to love her some John Edwards too. Oh, and Chuck Hagel. Pretty much everyone who's judgment she used to value.

penchief
10-15-2008, 06:56 PM
I haven't watched her show, but used to listen to her radio show, and I was very impressed. I'd say her and Stephanie Miller are the two I like the best.

Stephanie Miller clowns around too much for me. I like Maddow because she is actually smarter than most of her guests and doesn't take positions based soley on partisan politics. And she articulates her positions on her feet very well.

David Frum tried to ambush her yesterday and she would have none of it. She turned his accusations back around on him and you could see his faux argument evaporating into thin air around him. By the time the segment was over he was looking like someone who tried to grind an axe from the wrong direction and had the axe fly back in his own face.

Sully
10-15-2008, 06:56 PM
Her show is basically Keith lite. Keith without the johnson and toupe. :doh!:

If it's anything like her radio show, then I disagree.

penchief
10-15-2008, 06:57 PM
If it's anything like her radio show, then I disagree.

I haven't heard her radio show but I doubt her approach would be different just because she was on TV.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:57 PM
CCW used to love her some Olbermann. She used to love her some John Edwards too. Oh, and Chuck Hagel. Pretty much everyone who's judgment she used to value.

I still love Keith and Chuck. I just don't agree with their vision for our future. I am mostly mad at Keith that he was responsible for getting my man Dan canned. Other than that, I enjoy his Ogasims and remember when he used to support DUHbya.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 06:59 PM
If it's anything like her radio show, then I disagree.

It's very similar in format and tone to Keith's show. MOF, he has her on the end of his show sometimes and it leads right into hers. It's hard to tell which is which if you are not looking at the clock.

DeezNutz
10-15-2008, 07:01 PM
Fox News doesn't have 1 liberal that has their own show.

So I would say CNN is ahead

Wrong.

Greta.

memyselfI
10-15-2008, 07:03 PM
Wrong.

Greta.

Greta is pretty moderate, IMO.

They have Juan Williams and Mara Liasson but neither have their own show.

DeezNutz
10-15-2008, 08:34 PM
Greta is pretty moderate, IMO.

They have Juan Williams and Mara Liasson but neither have their own show.

I can understand why you'd say that given the format of her show, and she is amenable to all of her guests. She is, however, a liberal. At least this has always been her past political leanings. Perhaps this has changed recently?