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KCJohnny
10-18-2008, 01:04 AM
Americans Flunk Simple 3-Question Political Survey

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<!-- end .byline --><!-- end: .hd -->Some news audiences are more politically savvy than others, according to a new poll, with readers of The New Yorker and similar high-brow magazines being the most knowledgeable.

The survey, conducted between April 30 and June 1 by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, measured the political knowledge (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/americansflunksimple3questionpoliticalsurvey/29508396/SIG=11bgklbev;_ylt=AvAZWwmyHT8HFOcAMCgzh2ezvtEF/*http://www.livescience.com/topic/politics) of 3,612 U.S. adults. Participants were asked to name the controlling party of the U.S. House of Representatives, the U.S. secretary of state and Great Britain's prime minister.

Overall, just 18 percent of participants answered all three questions correctly.

More than 50 percent of Americans knew that the Democrats (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/americansflunksimple3questionpoliticalsurvey/29508396/SIG=1227l5n1r;_ylt=Am.lMAYvT8zFxdmwi3D3IvSzvtEF/*http://www.livescience.com/strangenews/060315_happiness_pew.html) have a majority in the House, while 42 percent could identify the secretary of state (Condoleezza Rice). Less than 30 percent could name the prime minister of Great Britain (Gordon Brown).

Perfect scores
The best-informed news audiences crossed the ideological spectrum (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/americansflunksimple3questionpoliticalsurvey/29508396/SIG=1249ocn93;_ylt=AkPpKNpqv1AVfro8gRWLVruzvtEF/*http://www.livescience.com/health/080507-liberal-conservative.html). Nearly half of regular readers of The New Yorker, The Atlantic and Harper's Magazine answered all three political knowledge questions correctly.

A perfect score was obtained by 44 percent of regular listeners of National Public Radio (NPR), 43 percent of regular viewers of MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews" and 42 percent of the Fox News Channel's "Hannity & Colmes" audience. Thirty-four percent of "The Colbert Report" audience and 30 percent of "The Daily Show" audience got all three questions correct.

While most news audiences knew that Democrats have a majority in the House, participants struggled to correctly name the current British prime minister.

Just four news audiences had a majority who correctly identified Gordon, including regular readers of The New Yorker and similar magazines such as The Atlantic, regular NPR listeners, regular readers of political magazines, such as The Weekly Standard and The New Republic, and regular viewers of "Hardball."

Just 44 percent of BBC viewers identified the prime minister correctly. ROFL



Here's a detailed breakdown of the percentage of individuals answering each of the three questions correctly from the different news audiences:
The New Yorker/Atlantic: 71 percent (correctly identified Democrats as the majority in the House), 71 percent (correctly identified Condeleeza Rice), 59 percent (correctly identified Gordon Brown)
NPR: 73 percent, 72 percent, 57percent
Hannity & Colmes: 84 percent, 73 percent, 49 percent
Rush Limbaugh: 83 percent, 71 percent, 41 percent
Colbert Report: 73 percent, 65 percent, 49 percent
Daily Show: 65 percent, 48 percent, 36 percent
NewsHour: 66 percent, 52 percent, 47 percent
O'Reilly Factor: 70 percent, 60 percent, 41 percent
C-SPAN: 63 percent, 59 percent, 35 percent
Letterman/Leno: 51 percent, 42 percent, 31 percent
CNN: 59 percent, 48 percent, 29 percent
National Enquirer: 44 percent, 32 percent, 22 percentEducation factor
In general, well-educated news audiences scored high on political knowledge. For instance, 54 percent of the regular readers of publications such as The New Yorker, The Atlantic and Harper's Magazine are college graduates, as are 54 percent of regular NPR listeners.

However, several news audiences with relatively low proportions of college graduates also scored well on the news quiz. Just 31 percent of regular "Hannity & Colmes" viewers are college graduates. Even still, 42 percent Hannity viewers got perfect scores (http://us.rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/livescience/sc_livescience/storytext/americansflunksimple3questionpoliticalsurvey/29508396/SIG=11o6q9rgi;_ylt=AvmSHmV3v9_CoxIx8UmRYwGzvtEF/*http://www.livescience.com/bestimg/index.php?cat=Myths) on the political knowledge quiz, compared with 44 percent of NPR listeners.

Nearly 40 percent of the regular audience of the news parody "The Colbert Report" are college graduates, compared with 30 percent of "The Daily Show" viewers. Both shows have younger audiences than other TV news sources, with less than a quarter of Colbert and Daily Show viewers over the age of 50, compared with more than half of "Hardball" and "Hannity & Colmes" viewers being 50 and older.
link (http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081015/sc_livescience/americansflunksimple3questionpoliticalsurvey#full)


Wow. Compare CNN viewers to Rush or Hannity listeners/viewers. Interesting. Makes you wonder sometimes about voters, especially the ones targeted by groups like ACORN...

...41% of CNN viewers did not know the democrats have the majority in Congress (!)


:hmmm:

KCJohnny
10-18-2008, 09:20 AM
ROFL

No replies! I guess Chiefs Planet fails, too!

SBK
10-18-2008, 09:25 AM
When I was in college I worked with a girl from Chicago and I told her I was from Des Moines and she had no idea where Des Moines, or Iowa was at. Seriously.

The education system in this country sucks, and nobody cares cause we have reality tv and celebrity shows!!!

KCJohnny
10-18-2008, 09:31 AM
And these are the people blindly voting for "change" having no idea what Marxism is.

banyon
10-18-2008, 09:33 AM
How did they flunk three questions?

More than 50 percent of Americans knew that the Democrats have a majority in the House

Why didn't they assign an actual percentage to this question like the other two, more obscure questions?

:hmmm:

And why is the article link to the front page of a site with no mention of this article?

banyon
10-18-2008, 09:34 AM
And these are the people blindly voting for "change" having no idea what Marxism is.

I would be highly surprised if you had read more than two pages of Marx's writings.

KCJohnny
10-18-2008, 09:45 AM
I would be highly surprised if you had read more than two pages of Marx's writings.

Please, defend Karl Marx. I'm all ears.

Brock
10-18-2008, 09:49 AM
I would be highly surprised if you had read more than two pages of Marx's writings.

I haven't read anything Charles Manson wrote, but I'm sure he's a scumbag.

banyon
10-18-2008, 09:49 AM
Please, defend Karl Marx. I'm all ears.

What does defending Marx have to do with anything?

banyon
10-18-2008, 09:50 AM
I haven't read anything Charles Manson wrote, but I'm sure he's a scumbag.

I don't think Marx went around murdering a bunch of people randomly, so we don't exactly have the same metric there.

TrickyNicky
10-18-2008, 10:01 AM
I couldn't remember the PM's last name, I kept wanting to say Gordon Ramsay.

Dr. Van Halen
10-18-2008, 10:05 AM
I'm not sure a three-question survey is a valid assessment of America's political knowledge.

Also, I don't think we can say that America's public education system gets the full blame. There is a strong, subtle anti-education vibe in America ... and I'm sad to say that it seems to come from the Republican Party. When I was a young man, the Republican Party was the party for smart people. Alex P. Keaton was a Young Republican, and he was extremely smart and cool. Now, right-leaning radio regularly mocks anything that comes from a "professor." Pres. Bush regularly pushed his agenda by encouraging people to doubt peer-reviewed science.

Meanwhile, it's the Democrats who are scratching their heads at the nonsense the Republicans seem to support.

banyon
10-18-2008, 10:06 AM
How did they flunk three questions?



Why didn't they assign an actual percentage to this question like the other two, more obscure questions?

:hmmm:

And why is the article link to the front page of a site with no mention of this article?

I guess these questions are just too hard.

Jenson71
10-18-2008, 10:19 AM
Please, defend Karl Marx. I'm all ears.

What do you think people would have more pleasuring doing: working in a cake factory processing icing, or baking a cake for their child's birthday?

Would you support reforms if saw the conditions of the working class soon after the Industrial Revolution?

Do you working class people deserve a strong and lasting voice in the political and economic sphere?

I can defend Marx for a while. We all should be able to defend Marx. He was not an evil man, though we may disagree with his economic theory and his philosophy, in general, and even come to the conclusion that his final conclusions are far from good. But only demagogues and sophists throw around terms which they have no understanding of. Barack Obama does not advocate for the abandoment of private property. Barack Obama is not a Marxist. When we say things like this, we are abandoning reason and rationality, cornerstones of our democracy, for emotion.

clemensol
10-18-2008, 04:28 PM
Marx is in no way a bad person. He saw injustice in the world, and tried to fix it. His solution may have sucked in retrospect but at least he tried to make the world a better place. He doesn't deserve blame for others who did horrible things in his name.

Also, if you actually read Marx, you would know that: 1) he's nothing like Barack Obama and 2) he was a stalwart proponent of liberty.

Adept Havelock
10-18-2008, 04:35 PM
2) he was a stalwart proponent of liberty.
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Ultra Peanut
10-18-2008, 04:36 PM
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Baby Lee
10-18-2008, 04:41 PM
I couldn't remember the PM's last name, I kept wanting to say Gordon Ramsay.

Well I have leg up in that Graham Norton is always poking fun at him.
On the down side, I've seen way too many un-glamor shots of Amy Winehouse and that peglegged harridan who f@cked Paul McCartney [twice] for 10 lifetimes.

penchief
10-18-2008, 04:42 PM
And these are the people blindly voting for "change" having no idea what Marxism is.

You have no idea what Marxism is.

Dave Lane
10-18-2008, 07:46 PM
Please, defend Karl Marx. I'm all ears.

"Religion is the opiate of the masses."

Pretty smart guy right there...

Dave

Taco John
10-18-2008, 08:32 PM
Question: why should any American care who Gordon Brown is?

I knew, because I follow this stuff. But even following this stuff, knowing who Gordon Brown is, its pretty much useless trivia.

KCJohnny
10-19-2008, 04:47 AM
What do you think people would have more pleasuring doing: working in a cake factory processing icing, or baking a cake for their child's birthday?

Would you support reforms if saw the conditions of the working class soon after the Industrial Revolution?

Do you working class people deserve a strong and lasting voice in the political and economic sphere?

I can defend Marx for a while. We all should be able to defend Marx. He was not an evil man, though we may disagree with his economic theory and his philosophy, in general, and even come to the conclusion that his final conclusions are far from good. But only demagogues and sophists throw around terms which they have no understanding of. Barack Obama does not advocate for the abandoment of private property. Barack Obama is not a Marxist. When we say things like this, we are abandoning reason and rationality, cornerstones of our democracy, for emotion.

Mr. Jensen71,
I deeply respect you and I am not seeking a row. But consider the following reflection by Kyle-Anne Shiver of the American Thinker (http://http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html):


Jeremiah Wright is the tiny tip of Obama's spiritual iceberg

The phenomenon that raised so many questions for me in January, when I visited Trinity United Church of Christ, was not Jeremiah Wright's sermon, which turned out to be just a call for all good congregants to support Barack Obama for President. It wasn't the sermon that caught me off guard; I was prepared for that. I had watched video of Wright, giving five of his fiery sermons.

The thing that really got me to thinking, reading and searching for answers was the church bookstore.

Having been a practicing Christian for more than 40 years now, and a practicing Catholic for 26 of those years, I have visited perhaps 100 various Christian bookstores, both Protestant and Catholic. In all of those places, one thing tied together the books for sale: Christianity.

Not so in Obama's church bookstore.

I spent more than an hour perusing available books, and found as many claiming to represent Muslim thought as those representing Christian thought. Black Muslim thought, to be specific.

And the books claiming to support Christianity were surprisingly of a more political than religious nature. The books by James H. Cone, Wright's own mentor, were prominent and numerous.

Now that I have read a number of the books that presumably Wright's congregants (including Barack Obama) have also read, I can only conclude that the thing tying these volumes together is not Christianity, nor any real religion, but the political philosophy of Karl Marx.

"The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of class struggles."

"Freeman and slave, patrician and plebeian, lord and serf, guild-master and journeyman, in a word, oppressor and oppressed, stood in constant opposition to one another, carried on an uninterrupted, now hidden, now open fight, a fight that each time ended, either in a revolutionary reconstitution of society at large, or in the common ruin of the contending classes." (emphasis mine)
- Marx and Engels; The Communist Manifesto; 1848

If Marxism can be summed up in only a couple of phrases, now familiar to nearly every modern person, they would be "class struggle" and "oppressed vs. oppressors."

James H. Cone, the unquestioned modern-day mentor of all the black power preachers, claims to have created a new theology, uniting the Muslim black power tenets of Malcolm X and the Christian foundations of Martin Luther King, Jr.

All he has really done, in my opinion, is take original liberation theology from Latin America, developed in the early 1960s by Catholic priests, and painted it black.


It is difficult to hear Jeremiah Wright preach Black Liberation Theology in the tradition of James Cone for 20 years and not be affected by it. It is asking too much of voters to dismiss the influence of Wright and his quasi-Christian marxist theology. It matters.

J Diddy
10-19-2008, 05:15 AM
Mr. Jensen71,
I deeply respect you and I am not seeking a row. But consider the following reflection by Kyle-Anne Shiver of the American Thinker (http://http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/05/obama_black_liberation_theolog.html):



It is difficult to hear Jeremiah Wright preach Black Liberation Theology in the tradition of James Cone for 20 years and not be affected by it. It is asking too much of voters to dismiss the influence of Wright and his quasi-Christian marxist theology. It matters.

The odd thing is I haven't heard anything about McCains religion.

irishjayhawk
10-19-2008, 07:06 PM
What do you think people would have more pleasuring doing: working in a cake factory processing icing, or baking a cake for their child's birthday?

Would you support reforms if saw the conditions of the working class soon after the Industrial Revolution?

Do you working class people deserve a strong and lasting voice in the political and economic sphere?

I can defend Marx for a while. We all should be able to defend Marx. He was not an evil man, though we may disagree with his economic theory and his philosophy, in general, and even come to the conclusion that his final conclusions are far from good. But only demagogues and sophists throw around terms which they have no understanding of. Barack Obama does not advocate for the abandoment of private property. Barack Obama is not a Marxist. When we say things like this, we are abandoning reason and rationality, cornerstones of our democracy, for emotion.

QFT

And +1 for Dave Lane's addition :)

Question: why should any American care who Gordon Brown is?

I knew, because I follow this stuff. But even following this stuff, knowing who Gordon Brown is, its pretty much useless trivia.

Yep. Though, I think you'd agree that America, by and large, is not very informed nor adept at critical thinking.

alanm
10-19-2008, 07:26 PM
Please, defend Karl Marx. I'm all ears.ROFL:LOL:LMAO

Ebolapox
10-19-2008, 07:33 PM
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it took vladimer lenin to declare that 'you can't making an omelet without breaking a few yolks'

Ebolapox
10-19-2008, 07:35 PM
Mr. Jensen71,
I deeply respect you and I am not seeking a row.

you're a fucking faggot.

Ultra Peanut
10-19-2008, 07:36 PM
"You can't make an egg without breakin' a few omelettes." - Manny Escuela, 2008

Ebolapox
10-19-2008, 07:48 PM
"You can't make an egg without breakin' a few omelettes." - Manny Escuela, 2008

'you want me to put those in your what?' - Petra S. Bizarre

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-19-2008, 08:13 PM
I haven't read anything Charles Manson wrote, but I'm sure he's a scumbag.

That's so hopelessly ignorant it's pathetic.

CHIEF4EVER
10-19-2008, 09:02 PM
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LMAO