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jAZ
10-20-2008, 01:16 AM
Funny as hell!

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-fraud20-2008oct20,0,3842357.story

Ontario police arrest man in voter fraud case
Mark Jacoby, who owns a firm hired by the California Republican Party, violated state laws with his own registration, authorities say.
By Evan Halper, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer
October 20, 2008

SACRAMENTO -- The owner of a firm that the California Republican Party hired to register tens of thousands of voters this year was arrested in Ontario over the weekend on suspicion of voter registration fraud.

State and local investigators allege that Mark Jacoby fraudulently registered himself to vote at a childhood California address where he no longer lives so he would appear to meet the legal requirement that all signature gatherers be eligible to vote in California. His firm, Young Political Majors, or YPM, collects petition signatures and registers voters in California and other states.

Jacoby's arrest by state investigators and the Ontario Police Department late Saturday came after dozens of voters said they were duped into registering as Republicans by people employed by YPM. The voters said YPM workers tricked them by saying they were signing a petition to toughen penalties against child molesters.

The firm was paid $7 to $12 for every Californian it registered as a member of the GOP.

Dan Goldfine, an attorney for Jacoby, on Sunday denied any wrongdoing by his client and called the charges "baseless."

He said the arrest outside an Ontario hotel, which involved seven squad cars and nine police officers, was part of a "long pattern of harassment against Mr. Jacoby for an entirely valid voter registration effort."

Goldfine said the case that prosecutors are bringing against his client involves charges that are rarely pressed.

Jacoby was released on bail Sunday evening from the West Valley Detention Center in Rancho Cucamonga, Goldfine said.

After complaints by voters and Democratic Party officials, several agencies launched investigations into Jacoby's activities. They included the Los Angeles County district attorney's office, which issued the warrant for his arrest earlier this month on felony charges of voter registration fraud and perjury.

"We contacted people at the addresses where he registered, and they have no idea who he is," said Dave Demerjian, head deputy of the public integrity unit at the L.A. County district attorney's office.

Goldfine said his client does business in many states, traveling frequently, and his permanent address has been his parents' Los Angeles County home, where he received mail and registered to vote.

Demerjian said his office is continuing to investigate allegations that YPM workers improperly re-registered voters with the GOP.

Several dozen voters recently told The Times that YPM workers said they had to become Republicans to sign the petition, contrary to California initiative law. Other voters said they had no idea their registration was being changed.

YPM has been accused of using bait-and-switch tactics across the country. Election officials and lawmakers have launched investigations into the activities of YPM workers in Florida and Massachusetts. In Arizona, the firm was recently a defendant in a civil rights lawsuit.

In a written statement Sunday, the state Republican Party called the charges against Jacoby "politically motivated." The party said the charges do not support accusations from voters and Democratic officials that YPM has been duping voters into joining the GOP.

The statement accused Secretary of State Debra Bowen, who announced the arrest, of "using her office to play politics."

Bowen is a Democrat.

evan.halper@latimes.com

Logical
10-20-2008, 01:19 AM
LMAO LMAO

Ultra Peanut
10-20-2008, 03:14 AM
Laffo.

whatsmynameagain
10-20-2008, 10:45 AM
everyday it keeps getting better and better

RINGLEADER
10-20-2008, 10:59 AM
Yeah, this is about the same as what ACORN has done across the country.

penchief
10-20-2008, 11:03 AM
Yeah, this is about the same as what ACORN has done across the country.

Yeah, and bogus registration cards turned in by homeless people looking for a paycheck is the same as the republican party's use of the justice department and republican state officials to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of legitimate voters.

RJ
10-20-2008, 11:05 AM
Yeah, and bogus registration cards turned in by homeless people looking for a paycheck is the same as the republican party's use of the justice department and republican state officials to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of legitimate voters.


Maybe we could just agree that they're both pretty damn bad and call it a day.

RINGLEADER
10-20-2008, 11:07 AM
Yeah, and bogus registration cards turned in by homeless people looking for a paycheck is the same as the republican party's use of the justice department and republican state officials to disenfranchise hundreds of thousands of legitimate voters.

If they don't qualify they can't be disenfrancised. As much as you want Mickey Mouse to have the right to vote. ;)

RINGLEADER
10-20-2008, 11:08 AM
Maybe we could just agree that they're both pretty damn bad and call it a day.

I wouldn't disagree.

jAZ
10-20-2008, 11:16 AM
Maybe we could just agree that they're both pretty damn bad and call it a day.
Umm... both are rather ridiculous non-issues.

ACORN's goal isn't election fraud. It's to register real people (and their are plenty of them) who don't vote regularly.

They are having their money stolen from them by people who register Will-E-Coyote 100 times, and then force ACORN into national embarassment because they are required to turn in every ballot as required by law.

Just like the GOP's goal in this situation isn't election fraud. It's to register real Repubilcans. They don't want this national embarassment.

The effort to supress the Dems vote is an entirely seperate issue. That's very serious.

Both of these are relatively petty, housekeeping, non-issues.

penchief
10-20-2008, 12:23 PM
If they don't qualify they can't be disenfrancised. As much as you want Mickey Mouse to have the right to vote. ;)

You're overlooking the voters that were disenfranchised in the past two elections and those who will be disenfranchised by the same tactics this November.

Velvet_Jones
10-20-2008, 12:28 PM
Umm... both are rather ridiculous non-issues.

ACORN's goal isn't election fraud. It's to register real people (and their are plenty of them) who don't vote regularly.

They are having their money stolen from them by people who register Will-E-Coyote 100 times, and then force ACORN into national embarassment because they are required to turn in every ballot as required by law.

Just like the GOP's goal in this situation isn't election fraud. It's to register real Repubilcans. They don't want this national embarassment.

The effort to supress the Dems vote is an entirely seperate issue. That's very serious.

Both of these are relatively petty, housekeeping, non-issues.
Another jIZ talking point. My party supports doing something illegal, I will find some obscure way to show that the Republicans do the same thing, therefore, I can justify that I am a political hack and my party rules dude.

What an ass.

jAZ
10-20-2008, 12:39 PM
I will find some obscure way to show that the Republicans do the same thing
This one group has supposedly registerd some 70,000 people across the country and is being investigated in FL, MA, CA and AZ.

A sampling that the LA Times did showed that 80% of those "registered" by YPM had their party identity changed without their approval.

This isn't obscure just because it's Repubilcan.

RJ
10-20-2008, 01:11 PM
[QUOTE=jAZ;5134781]Umm... both are rather ridiculous non-issues.

QUOTE]


They might or might not be ridiculous but they are most certainly issues. Whether or not you think they should be is irrelevant. I hope the YPM story draws as much media attention as the Acorn story has but I doubt it will. Just like the comparison of Ayers to Liddy, it probably won't be widely reported.

ROYC75
10-20-2008, 01:16 PM
They are having their money stolen from them .

Don't worry about that, Obama will give them more money.

jAZ
10-20-2008, 01:20 PM
[QUOTE=jAZ;5134781]Umm... both are rather ridiculous non-issues.

QUOTE]


They might or might not be ridiculous but they are most certainly issues. Whether or not you think they should be is irrelevant. I hope the YPM story draws as much media attention as the Acorn story has but I doubt it will. Just like the comparison of Ayers to Liddy, it probably won't be widely reported.
I guess I agree with that thinking. They are issues, I just think they are non-issues getting lots of coverage, making them issues by default.

And agreed, the Repubilcans will force Ayers/ACORN to be treated as sensational controversy, while Liddy/YPM is nothing worthy of any time.

Pathetic, but true.