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Carlota69
10-21-2008, 01:37 PM
I realize this is a not detrimental to his ability to win the election, but I am a music director, so I found this kind of funny.


Award-winning writer Bob Greene is riding CNN's Election Express across the country in the final weeks before the election.

ABOARD THE CNN ELECTION EXPRESS (CNN) -- With only two weeks until Election Day, it's safe to say that Sen. John McCain has quite a few things on his mind.

So he's undoubtedly not paying excessive attention to the music that is played at his campaign rallies.

Still ... the selection of songs does raise a few intriguing questions.

On a recent campaign morning, we pulled into Woodbridge, Virginia, to cover a McCain speech. We got there early, because the bus was going to be putting its rooftop satellite dish up in order to broadcast the afternoon event live. Watch McCain on the campaign trail »

So we were there for hours before McCain arrived -- including the hours when the crowd was being warmed up by songs blasting over a public address system.

Now ... nothing against the songs themselves. Fine songs, all of them.

But the choice, and the pacing. ...

One of the first to be played was "Danger Zone" by Kenny Loggins. "Danger Zone" is often heard in National Basketball Association arenas, when the home team is in big trouble. It's a sign of a possible impending defeat for the good guys:

"Right into the Danger Zone. ..."

Maybe not the precise tune that the McCain campaign should want to be pumping into the ears of its supporters at this particular juncture of the election year. But "Danger Zone" was featured on the soundtrack of the 1986 Tom Cruise movie "Top Gun," so the military/McCain connection might be there. Give them the benefit of the doubt.

"Danger Zone" ended, the day grew chillier, the crowd shivered a little, and then came the rousing opening chords of the Brooks & Dunn hit "Only in America":

"Sun comin' up, over New York City. ..."

Great song. Perfect way to charge up a crowd.

One problem:

It's the song Sen. Barack Obama has been using at his rallies all year. It has become inextricably identified with his campaign. More than 38 million people were watching on television as Obama accepted the nomination at that packed football stadium in Denver, Colorado, and all of them heard "Only in America."

You can make the case that the Democrats have no proprietary right to the song -- George W. Bush and Dick Cheney used it during their 2004 re-election campaign, so the Republicans got there first. But if McCain perhaps might not want to play a song that reminds his audiences of Obama, you would think he certainly wouldn't want to play one that reminds them of Bush and Cheney.

(A side note: Unlike many musical acts who pout and complain when a candidate they don't like uses one of their songs at rallies, Kix Brooks and Ronnie Dunn seem to have taken the wisely pragmatic position that you don't fight a gift that drops upon you unexpectedly out of the sky. Republicans, Democrats, conservatives, liberals -- everyone loves music, and Brooks & Dunn appear understandably quite happy to have "Only in America" played endlessly for potential customers at rallies of different political stripes.)

All right. Back to the McCain event. This is where it got truly odd:

The motorcade was at last arriving. The sirens were wailing. The excitement was at its peak. McCain was on the premises, ready to give his speech.

The song that was played over the sound system as he arrived?

"A Little Less Conversation" by Elvis Presley.

A little less conversation?

As a buildup to a speech?

Next, credit where it's due: The song that was played immediately before McCain stepped to the microphone was the theme from "Rocky." A logical choice: inspirational, certain to conjure up memories about the rise of an underdog.

The speech was delivered. The crowd was enthusiastic and appreciative. McCain waved goodbye.

And the song that played?

"Start Me Up" by the Rolling Stones.

"Start Me Up"? At the end?

"Start Me Up" has been used at so many athletic contests, as the excitement-building super-charger for the tipoff or the kickoff, that it has become almost traditional. "Start Me Up" says: This event is about to begin. The thrills will now commence. Ladies and gentlemen, get ready. ... But "Start Me Up" as a candidate departs?


McCain did, indeed, depart, and with him the mystery of the rally's playlist. But there was one good idea, however unintentional, that came out of the whole afternoon:

All presidential campaigns might be more bearable for the electorate if the candidates were to agree at the outset, across the aisle, that "A Little Less Conversation" should become, now and forever, their shared official theme song.

Friendo
10-21-2008, 01:41 PM
speaking of danger zone--you still hanging in there?

Chiefnj2
10-21-2008, 01:53 PM
"But "Danger Zone" was featured on the soundtrack of the 1986 Tom Cruise movie "Top Gun," so the military/McCain connection might be there. Give them the benefit of the doubt."

I think they use the song because McGrumpy portrays himself as a Maverick (or so I've heard Sarah Palin say 100x) and the lead character in Top Gun was "Maverick".

Brock
10-21-2008, 01:58 PM
Does this kind of stuff really matter to anyone?

dirk digler
10-21-2008, 02:04 PM
Does this kind of stuff really matter to anyone?

No but it is interesting IMO.

I would like to know the songs that are played before Obama rallies to see if there is anything weird with those

Carlota69
10-21-2008, 02:27 PM
Does this kind of stuff really matter to anyone?

In the long-haul--No. but as a music director who gets paid to put thought into music presentation, I found it interesting.

Carlota69
10-21-2008, 02:28 PM
speaking of danger zone--you still hanging in there?

Very much so. Been super busy, but hangin' in there for sure.:)

Carlota69
10-21-2008, 02:30 PM
"But "Danger Zone" was featured on the soundtrack of the 1986 Tom Cruise movie "Top Gun," so the military/McCain connection might be there. Give them the benefit of the doubt."

I think they use the song because McGrumpy portrays himself as a Maverick (or so I've heard Sarah Palin say 100x) and the lead character in Top Gun was "Maverick".

Yeah, possible or they could of gone with the big smash from that movie--"Take my Breath Away"...LOL..I dont know why i think thats funny, but I do.

BigRedChief
10-21-2008, 02:57 PM
File this one under “real versus unreal America.”

Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1008/GOP_Rep_Liberals_Hate_Real_Americans_That_Work_And_Achieve_And_Believe_In_God.html?showall) picks up on another uh-oh moment from a Republican representative up for re-election. Rep. Robin Hayes, during a warm-up act for John McCain this weekend in North Carolina, remarked to a rowdy crowd that “liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.”
McCain and his traveling press corps had not yet arrived at the venue when Hayes made the remark. A spokesperson for the congressman, who is locked in a razor-tight reelection rematch with Democrat Larry Kissell, initially denied to the Politico that Hayes uttered the phrase, but audio of the comment has since surfaced.
Hayes' "real Americans" critique comes on the heels of intense criticism of one of his Hill colleagues, Rep. Michelle Bachmann, whose once-safe reelection race is suddenly in the spotlight after she implied to NBC’s Chris Matthews that she favors a media investigation of members of Congress to identify those who are "anti-America." Unlike Bachmann, Hayes was anything but a lock for reelection; he won his seat in 2006 by only 369 votes, and the toss-up race is one of the more closely watched in the country.

Carlota69
10-21-2008, 03:02 PM
File this one under “real versus unreal America.”

Politico (http://www.politico.com/blogs/thecrypt/1008/GOP_Rep_Liberals_Hate_Real_Americans_That_Work_And_Achieve_And_Believe_In_God.html?showall) picks up on another uh-oh moment from a Republican representative up for re-election. Rep. Robin Hayes, during a warm-up act for John McCain this weekend in North Carolina, remarked to a rowdy crowd that “liberals hate real Americans that work and achieve and believe in God.”
McCain and his traveling press corps had not yet arrived at the venue when Hayes made the remark. A spokesperson for the congressman, who is locked in a razor-tight reelection rematch with Democrat Larry Kissell, initially denied to the Politico that Hayes uttered the phrase, but audio of the comment has since surfaced.
Hayes' "real Americans" critique comes on the heels of intense criticism of one of his Hill colleagues, Rep. Michelle Bachmann, whose once-safe reelection race is suddenly in the spotlight after she implied to NBC’s Chris Matthews that she favors a media investigation of members of Congress to identify those who are "anti-America." Unlike Bachmann, Hayes was anything but a lock for reelection; he won his seat in 2006 by only 369 votes, and the toss-up race is one of the more closely watched in the country.

I saw that woman on "Hardball" say something to that effect. I'm so sick of people like her calling someone like me "Anti-American" just becasue I believe in different ways of handling domestic and international affairs. Isn't that what America is supposedly about? Freedom of thought, expression, speech etc...And we're the socialist? So are they the communists, trying to dictate our beliefs?

Retarded.