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jAZ
10-22-2008, 01:13 AM
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Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:19 AM
I was just watching this and my first thought was.....check out out Roy and Big Daddys people were driven away from the rally.

jAZ
10-22-2008, 01:24 AM
McCain's actual campaign is still garbage though.

They pulled the Muslim man representing the campaign from a positive interview on CNN. It safe to say that they don't want this story getting out to the voters (like the loons in this video) who they are targeting with all of the anti-Muslim efforts.

Shameful.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/21/cnn-host-mystified-by-mcc_n_136479.html

CNN Host "Mystified" By McCain Camp Silencing Muslim Organizer
October 21, 2008 09:51 AM

CNN host Rick Sanchez said he was "mystified" by a last minute decision by the McCain campaign to pull a Muslim grassroots organizer from appearing on his show.

The aide, Daniel Zubairi, had been scheduled to appear on Sanchez's mid-day program after he was caught on video talking down an anti-Muslim protester outside a McCain rally in Woodbridge, Virginia. But, even after telling the network that an interview was "good to go," the McCain shop pulled Zubairi at the last minute, leaving Sanchez in limbo on live TV.

"Wouldn't you think they would have wanted him to come on?" the CNN host would later tell the Huffington Post. "What the guy did was courageous. I called him heroic. I'm mystified why they wouldn't embrace him for his actions. Maybe they didn't like the story, but I'll tell you. I thought it was presented it in a very transparent way, if anything I kind of gushed philosophically about how impressive and real his reaction was to the protester's hateful message. It seemed to show some of the best of McCain supporters, didn't it?"

The American News Project captured Zubairi this past weekend intervening when a racist McCain supporter got into a heated exchange with rally attendees over the anti-Muslim literature and message that he was promoting. We don't "endorse that behavior" said Zubairi. The tiff ended with the man walking away from the rally with his pamphlets and bumper stickers in hand.

Noting how the incident went against the prevailing narrative of McCain crowds festering with hateful, occasionally racist speech, Sanchez booked Zubairi for his show. But minutes before the interview was to take place, the McCain campaign wouldn't let him go on air.

"I had instructed our guys before the show to find this guy, vet him and get him to talk," said Sanchez. " I was briefed by one of our producers and told we were good to go. Then just as I went to introduce him, it all changed. I may know more tomorrow. I guess that's a long way of saying I don't know why."

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Thig Lyfe
10-22-2008, 01:26 AM
I liked the ultra-bitchy woman who said the thing about the press distorting their message. What is there to distort? We've seen the raw footage of these people espousing their retarded views. It's pretty clear what their message is; the mythical liberal media has done nothing to alter it.

The thing is, even if Obama were a Muslim, IT SHOULDN'T MATTER. BEING MUSLIM IS NOT SOME INHERENTLY NEGATIVE QUALITY. I'm sick of Christians who think that freedom of religion only applies to their religion. Good for those Muslim McCain supporters to stick up for themselves.

Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:26 AM
Playing to that base.......all muslims are bad, fear them.

I'm sorry to inform people the Muslim religion is no different than the Christian religion it's just the radicals who are an issue just like Christian radicals are an issue.

HolmeZz
10-22-2008, 01:27 AM
That muslim chick is a babe.

Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:27 AM
That muslim chick is a babe.

I'd hit it, I had that thought also.

Mizzou_8541
10-22-2008, 01:30 AM
I'd hit it, I had that thought also.

No seriously, she is hot. No to detract from the thread, but there were so many very attactive Iraqi women I noticed when I was there. Does that last sentence make me a d-bag?

Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:31 AM
No seriously, she is hot. No to detract from the thread, but there were so many very attactive Iraqi women I noticed when I was there. Does that last sentence make me a d-bag?

Nah not really, unless you are somehow against banging women of a different skin color, which I am of course for banging women of any skin color.

Mizzou_8541
10-22-2008, 01:32 AM
Nah not really, unless you are somehow against banging women of a different skin color, which I am of course for banging women of any skin color.

Fair enough. And touche'.

Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:34 AM
Isn't it hard to tell if Iraqi women are good looking when they wear those things over their heads?

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-22-2008, 01:36 AM
No seriously, she is hot. No to detract from the thread, but there were so many very attactive Iraqi women I noticed when I was there. Does that last sentence make me a d-bag?

No, it makes you a heterosexual.

Mizzou_8541
10-22-2008, 01:37 AM
Isn't it hard to tell if Iraqi women are good looking when they wear those things over their heads?

Yes, but I actually lived with them for several days at a time. so when the men were in town conducting business or whatever, there were left at home to tend to the crops, feed the livestock, cook the food, clean the house etc. During that time they rarely wear the covering. Iraqi women are quite attactive and appear to have great figures (forgive me for my 1950's term).

Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:39 AM
I bet it's hard to ask for a blowjob when you don't speak the language.

Mizzou_8541
10-22-2008, 01:43 AM
I bet it's hard to ask for a blowjob when you don't speak the language.

I actually spoke broken Arabic. Blowjob, unfortunately, wasn't a word we were taught.

Mecca
10-22-2008, 01:44 AM
Well what a jip that is man, I figure one of the bonuses of being a soldier is foreign punany.

Mizzou_8541
10-22-2008, 01:47 AM
Well what a jip that is man, I figure one of the bonuses of being a soldier is foreign punany.

If that were the case, then this conversation would be held from a Property of Leavenworth Penitentiary computer. Wait....What? I don't even know what that means.

Saggysack
10-22-2008, 04:10 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the extreme views on either side are taken up largely by baby boomers. I dunno, it could be just the chip on my shoulder I have for baby boomers. When there generation is all said and done I think history will look at them as one of the first american generations to create more problems than solve. I think it goes into their larger sense of entitlement. Am I the only person with this view, or am I just fucking crazy?

Friendo
10-22-2008, 06:16 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the extreme views on either side are taken up largely by baby boomers. I dunno, it could be just the chip on my shoulder I have for baby boomers. When there generation is all said and done I think history will look at them as one of the first american generations to create more problems than solve. I think it goes into their larger sense of entitlement. Am I the only person with this view, or am I just ****ing crazy?

I think a very large percentage of them, but certainly not all.

Programmer
10-22-2008, 06:30 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the extreme views on either side are taken up largely by baby boomers. I dunno, it could be just the chip on my shoulder I have for baby boomers. When there generation is all said and done I think history will look at them as one of the first american generations to create more problems than solve. I think it goes into their larger sense of entitlement. Am I the only person with this view, or am I just ****ing crazy?

Generalization? To answer your question, yes you are crazy. The baby boomers may be part of the problem, but the chip on your shoulder clouds many things, like the positives of those in that generation. All you seem to be able to see is things you feel damage America. I've got a news flash for you, the Baby Boomers have gone along with the flow, if anything the problems facing the country at the moment came from the parents of the baby boomers, not the boomers themselves.

I suppose you are going to reply with all of the wonderful things that are being done by your generation. I would be interested to hear exactly what you feel your generation has added to society and the impact they will have in the future.

Direckshun
10-22-2008, 06:33 AM
Generalization? To answer your question, yes you are crazy. The baby boomers may be part of the problem, but the chip on your shoulder clouds many things, like the positives of those in that generation. All you seem to be able to see is things you feel damage America. I've got a news flash for you, the Baby Boomers have gone along with the flow, if anything the problems facing the country at the moment came from the parents of the baby boomers, not the boomers themselves.

I suppose you are going to reply with all of the wonderful things that are being done by your generation. I would be interested to hear exactly what you feel your generation has added to society and the impact they will have in the future.

I imagine your eyebrows always look like this: \ /

Saggysack
10-22-2008, 06:40 AM
Generalization? To answer your question, yes you are crazy. The baby boomers may be part of the problem, but the chip on your shoulder clouds many things, like the positives of those in that generation. All you seem to be able to see is things you feel damage America. I've got a news flash for you, the Baby Boomers have gone along with the flow, if anything the problems facing the country at the moment came from the parents of the baby boomers, not the boomers themselves.

I suppose you are going to reply with all of the wonderful things that are being done by your generation. I would be interested to hear exactly what you feel your generation has added to society and the impact they will have in the future.

Atleast I'm not the only crazy person, huh?. I'm firmly implanted Generation X. Yes, I still wear my baggy pants everyday, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays I still wear my Malcom X hat, the other days are filled with a magical leaf hat. And everday I watch reruns of Yo MTV Raps!

As hard as it is for Boomers to believe, most members of Generation X are not your biggest fans. To many Xers, Boomers have been a continual thorn, always holding the vast majority of the “good jobs” and seemingly diminishing their limited economic opportunities yet further. Boomers have taken up far too much physical space and mental mindshare, often with an air of decided superiority and self-pre-occupation, for far too long. But despite lofty teenage promises, they have done little to better either corporations or broader world. The workplace that Boomers have managed has not been overly receptive to many Xers’ values and preferences. And, as Xers move into positions of increased authority, resentments related to the results of Boomers’ custodial roles -- of the environment, international relationships, the national debt -- are already beginning to surface.

Tammy Kobliuk offered the following thoughtful response to one of my earlier posts: “In my last office I was one of the few Gen Xers working with a large number of Baby Boomers. There is a definite culture difference between the two groups despite an often small separation in age. Gen Xers are more concerned with finding the right job for them, regardless of which company, instead of sticking with a company and hoping to climb the ladder. I have found many Boomers to be very ambitious and concerned with climbing the ladder. Many are unhappy in their jobs yet don't consider leaving their organizations. Gen Xers, on the other hand, are often more concerned with a work-life balance where they work to live instead of live to work. Free time is highly valued, probably more so than money for many. We have seen Boomers fill and stay in management/ leadership positions thus resigning us to remain in the rank and file. We tend to job hop more than Boomers since company loyalty is not something we expect, having seen and been affected by the downsizing of the 80's and 90's. Boomers are seen by Gen Xers as a "me" generation. It's all about them. They got the jobs and the houses and we were left with the leftovers.”

Programmer
10-22-2008, 06:41 AM
I imagine your eyebrows always look like this: \ /

You probably need to pay more attention to factual information and give less credence to your imagination/fantasy.

My eybrows were burned off in a fire when i was onboard the USS Saratoga in 1972.

Programmer
10-22-2008, 06:44 AM
Atleast I'm not the only crazy person, huh?. I'm firmly implanted Generation X. Yes, I still wear my baggy pants everyday, on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays I still wear my Malcom X hat, the other days are filled with a magical leaf hat. And everday I watch reruns of Yo MTV Raps!

Funny, but very distrubing. Generation x was given that name as they basically wrote themselves off. They are proportionately as guilty of the boomers of feeling entitlements are due them just because.

I'd say your self righteous attitude does nothing for your argument.

pr_capone
10-22-2008, 07:09 AM
Generation x was given that name as they basically wrote themselves off.

Really? I failed to turn that up in any of my research regarding my generation.

They are proportionately as guilty of the boomers of feeling entitlements are due them just because.

Really?

Time Magazine (1990 - Wikipedia) put in nicely:

"While the baby boomers had a placid childhood in the 1950s, which helped inspire them to start their revolution, today's twenty-something generation grew up in a time of drugs, divorce and economic strain. . .They feel influenced and changed by the social problems they see as their inheritance: racial strife, homelessness, AIDS, fractured families and federal deficits."

We GREW UP in that mess. A mess the Boomers left for us to clean up. Not saying that we don't have our faults, but damn... Boomers did not leave us much to work with.

I'd say your self righteous attitude does nothing for your argument.

Your arrogance undermines any credibility your argument may have.

patteeu
10-22-2008, 07:12 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the extreme views on either side are taken up largely by baby boomers. I dunno, it could be just the chip on my shoulder I have for baby boomers. When there generation is all said and done I think history will look at them as one of the first american generations to create more problems than solve. I think it goes into their larger sense of entitlement. Am I the only person with this view, or am I just ****ing crazy?

I agree. And one of the problems may well end up being that they created subsequent generations who were too addicted to government and too self-absorbed to save themselves from the challenges that they faced. The baby boomers (and their parents, really) made life for subsequent generations so easy that it may have ruined them.

Saggysack
10-22-2008, 08:55 AM
Funny, but very distrubing. Generation x was given that name as they basically wrote themselves off. They are proportionately as guilty of the boomers of feeling entitlements are due them just because.

I'd say your self righteous attitude does nothing for your argument.

Awww, that's too bad. I thought you would have maybe joined me in the Ed Lover dance.

RJ
10-22-2008, 09:24 AM
Meanwhile, here in New Mexico.....




Wednesday, October 22, 2008

GOP Letter on Obama Lambasted

By Jeff Jones
Journal Staff Writer
Comments from a southern New Mexico Republican leader that "Muslims are our enemies" and that Democrat Barack Obama is a "Muslim socialist" drew criticism Tuesday from religious leaders and a national Islamic group called on the party to repudiate the statements.
Otero County Republican Women Chair Marcia Stirman made the comments in a letter published Tuesday in the Alamogordo Daily News, prompting a flood of e-mails from across the country to the southern New Mexico newspaper.
"I'm a Republican because: I believe in a sovereign God who sometimes gives us what we deserve. I believe Muslims are our enemies," Stirman, who lives in Alamogordo, wrote in the letter to the editor.
"I agree with a two-party system, but Obama isn't a messiah or a Democrat. He's a Muslim socialist," Stirman wrote.
Justin Crispin, an associate pastor for the First Assembly Worship Center in Alamogordo, called Stirman's comments "uninformed" and pointed out that Obama is a professed Christian.
Rabbi Joseph Black with Congregation Albert in Albuquerque said Stirman's comments went beyond ignorance.
"I'm sickened," Black said. "History has taught us the dangers of mindless hatred based on religious affiliation. Absolutely — they're dangerous."
The newspaper received more than 140 e-mail comments to Stirman's letter on Tuesday, with many of them critical of Stirman. "Shame on you," one e-mailer from Connecticut wrote.
Some of the e-mails praised Stirman and her letter. "I'm behind this 100 percent," said a writer from Alamogordo.
Stirman told the Journal she stood by her comments. She said in an interview that she'd received compliments but that she also expected "hate mail."
"It's pretty strong, but it's exactly how I feel," Stirman said in the interview. "And it's exactly how a lot of people I know feel. They just wish they had been able to say it. People need to stand up and not take it anymore when they believe something else than what the media has portrayed. ... I've have had a lot of people say, 'Way to go.' "
Asked if she believes Obama is the enemy, Stirman added, "I think so."
In an interview with The Associated Press on Tuesday, Stirman said of Muslims, "I don't trust them at all. They've sworn across the world that they are our enemies. Why we're trying to elect one is beside me."
Stirman's letter to the editor came in response to a letter to the Alamogordo Daily News from a Democrat, who blasted the Bush administration.
The Washington, D.C.-based Council on American-Islamic Relations heard about Stirman's letter and demanded that other Republican leaders repudiate her comments.
"Is this person saying that millions of American Muslims, our neighbors, our colleagues, these are her enemies? If she's saying that, what do you do with enemies?" asked council spokesman Ibrahim Hooper.
"We're seeing this kind of thing too often in this election campaign. We need some elected officials or candidates to stand up and say: 'This is un-American. This isn't right.' "
New Mexico Republican Party Chairman Allen Weh called the Council on American-Islamic Relations a "radical group," but he said Stirman's comment about Muslims in her letter was "uneducated."
"What she should have said is, 'I believe radical Islamic fascists are our enemies.' We're fighting them in multiple theaters in the war against terror today," said Weh, a retired Marine colonel.
"I'm a guy who spent almost a year in Iraq. I know Iraqi Muslims I served with would have taken a bullet for me," Weh said.
Republican presidential candidate John McCain and his running mate, Sarah Palin, have been trying to paint Obama's tax plans as socialist.
"He's campaigning with a tax policy that smacks of socialism," Weh said. "He's going to get labeled as a socialist. That's a logical conclusion."
The New Mexico Obama campaign on Tuesday didn't jump far into the fray. Its only response to Stirman's letter was an e-mail with prepared comments from Chris Henderson, who directs the campaign's New Mexico veterans' voting outreach effort.
"As a native Alamogordan, a Christian, and an Iraq war veteran, I am disappointed at misleading comments like these," Henderson said. "Senator Obama is a Democrat and a Christian who loves his country."


http://www.abqjournal.com/news/state/221051161034newsstate10-22-08.htm

Saggysack
10-23-2008, 03:08 AM
And one of the problems may well end up being that they created subsequent generations who were too addicted to government and too self-absorbed to save themselves from the challenges that they faced. The baby boomers (and their parents, really) made life for subsequent generations so easy that it may have ruined them.

Self absorbed, or individualism? I guess it really depends on how you see someone being self absorbed.

Though his original essay was melancholy and defeatist ("It's over, baby. Gen-X has been crushed. You might as well retire."), Gordinier's book conveys a far different message. Shirking the media myth that Xers are slackers, Gordinier argues that Generation X has — to borrow a '60s term — changed the world. Citing Gen-X icons like Quentin Tarantino and Jon Stewart, along with Gen-X triumphs like Google, YouTube, and Amazon, among others, Gordinier argues that not only are Xers far from over, they might be the most unsung and influential generation of all time. "Gen-X stomping grounds of the past — the espresso bar, the record shop, the thrift store — have been resurrected in digital form. The new bohemia is less a place than it is a headspace. It's flexible enough to bypass all the old binaries. It encompasses mass and class, mainstream and marginal, yuppie and refusenik, gearhead and Luddite. It's everywhere and nowhere in particular," he writes.

In short, "GenXers are doing the quiet work of keeping America from sucking."

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Logical
10-23-2008, 03:22 AM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the extreme views on either side are taken up largely by baby boomers. I dunno, it could be just the chip on my shoulder I have for baby boomers. When there generation is all said and done I think history will look at them as one of the first american generations to create more problems than solve. I think it goes into their larger sense of entitlement. Am I the only person with this view, or am I just ****ing crazy?As a baby boomer, I don't think you can make this generalization.

Saggysack
10-23-2008, 03:26 AM
As a baby boomer, I don't think you can make this generalization.

I don't know about that. I wouldn't be the first.

ROYC75
10-23-2008, 12:43 PM
I was just watching this and my first thought was.....check out out Roy and Big Daddys people were driven away from the rally.

You are an idiot, seriously, a f**king idiot.

To the rest of CP, we now resume you back to our previous discussions.

Programmer
10-23-2008, 12:45 PM
Really? I failed to turn that up in any of my research regarding my generation.

Really?

Time Magazine (1990 - Wikipedia) put in nicely:

"While the baby boomers had a placid childhood in the 1950s, which helped inspire them to start their revolution, today's twenty-something generation grew up in a time of drugs, divorce and economic strain. . .They feel influenced and changed by the social problems they see as their inheritance: racial strife, homelessness, AIDS, fractured families and federal deficits."

We GREW UP in that mess. A mess the Boomers left for us to clean up. Not saying that we don't have our faults, but damn... Boomers did not leave us much to work with.

Your arrogance undermines any credibility your argument may have.

What ever you want to believe buckwheat.

irishjayhawk
10-23-2008, 12:50 PM
You are an idiot, seriously, a f**king idiot.

To the rest of CP, we now resume you back to our previous discussions.

Actually, it was pretty accurate description.

irishjayhawk
10-23-2008, 12:53 PM
I agree. And one of the problems may well end up being that they created subsequent generations who were too addicted to government and too self-absorbed to save themselves from the challenges that they faced. The baby boomers (and their parents, really) made life for subsequent generations so easy that it may have ruined them.

Actually, I agree with this take. In fact, I read an article in the WSJ the other day about the Millennials (my generation) and how they are demanding things of the work place. A lot of it actually made sense and a lot of it might lead to what you are saying.

The guy wrote a book and I added it to my ever increasing list of books. http://www.amazon.com/Trophy-Kids-Grow-Millennial-Generation/dp/0470229543/ref=pd_bbs_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1224784351&sr=8-1

|Zach|
10-23-2008, 01:06 PM
What ever you want to believe buckwheat.

Great take.

ROYC75
10-23-2008, 01:09 PM
Actually, it was pretty accurate description.


Then you are an idiot too, seriously, a f**king idiot.

To the rest of CP, we now resume you back to our previous discussions.

irishjayhawk
10-23-2008, 01:14 PM
Then you are an idiot too, seriously, a f**king idiot.

To the rest of CP, we now resume you back to our previous discussions.

Can you point out the threads where you didn't discuss any smears against him?

RaiderH8r
10-23-2008, 01:16 PM
Is it just me, or does it seem like the extreme views on either side are taken up largely by baby boomers. I dunno, it could be just the chip on my shoulder I have for baby boomers. When there generation is all said and done I think history will look at them as one of the first american generations to create more problems than solve. I think it goes into their larger sense of entitlement. Am I the only person with this view, or am I just ****ing crazy?

No, you're right. The baby boomers had all the sex they could, did all the drugs they could and left us with deficits, AIDS and the War on Drugs. Now they want our generation to pay for their drugs, their retirement, their enterrment, and impose their flawed sense of social justice in the world. The baby boomer generation has accomplished little except to screw over their progeny.

What have the boomers accomplished? Honestly, anybody want to take a crack at that?

ROYC75
10-23-2008, 01:20 PM
Can you point out the threads where you didn't discuss any smears against him?

Nope, But you can't show any threads or post where I said "he was " a communist or a muslim.

Which is what the video and the comments were about.

I have discussed his Islamic background, but never once claiming he was.

Big difference ...... idiot.

You lose .... again.

irishjayhawk
10-23-2008, 01:22 PM
Nope, But you can't show any threads or post where I said "he was " a communist or a muslim.

Which is what the video and the comments were about.

I have discussed his Islamic background, but never once claiming he was.

Big difference ...... idiot.

You lose .... again.

Whereby "discussed his Islamic background" means what exactly?

irishjayhawk
10-23-2008, 01:26 PM
Also, Roy, it's important to note that it's your overall persona that people equate to those individuals. Not, as you would have it, the specifics of what they say. Your words and theirs, your views and theirs are eerily similar. They come from the same vein.

Here's a prime example:

My response was a little different, It's better to have the majority Christians instead of Atheists, Muslims, Agnostics.

pr_capone
10-23-2008, 05:00 PM
What ever you want to believe buckwheat.

You are a stain to the shield in your Av.