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sportsshrink
10-22-2008, 02:36 PM
At least this Democrat gets it:thumb:


WorldWatch
First appeared in print in The Rhinoceros Times, Greensboro, NC
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By Orson Scott Card October 5, 2008

Would the Last Honest Reporter Please Turn On the Lights?

An open letter to the local daily paper -- almost every local daily paper in America:

I remember reading All the President's Men and thinking: That's journalism. You do what it takes to get the truth and you lay it before the public, because the public has a right to know.

This housing crisis didn't come out of nowhere. It was not a vague emanation of the evil Bush administration.

It was a direct result of the political decision, back in the late 1990s, to loosen the rules of lending so that home loans would be more accessible to poor people. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were authorized to approve risky loans.

What is a risky loan? It's a loan that the recipient is likely not to be able to repay.

The goal of this rule change was to help the poor -- which especially would help members of minority groups. But how does it help these people to give them a loan that they can't repay? They get into a house, yes, but when they can't make the payments, they lose the house -- along with their credit rating.

They end up worse off than before.

This was completely foreseeable and in fact many people did foresee it. One political party, in Congress and in the executive branch, tried repeatedly to tighten up the rules. The other party blocked every such attempt and tried to loosen them.

Furthermore, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae were making political contributions to the very members of Congress who were allowing them to make irresponsible loans. (Though why quasi-federal agencies were allowed to do so baffles me. It's as if the Pentagon were allowed to contribute to the political campaigns of Congressmen who support increasing their budget.)

Isn't there a story here? Doesn't journalism require that you who produce our daily paper tell the truth about who brought us to a position where the only way to keep confidence in our economy was a $700 billion bailout? Aren't you supposed to follow the money and see which politicians were benefitting personally from the deregulation of mortgage lending?

I have no doubt that if these facts had pointed to the Republican Party or to John McCain as the guilty parties, you would be treating it as a vast scandal. "Housing-gate," no doubt. Or "Fannie-gate."

Instead, it was Senator Christopher Dodd and Congressman Barney Frank, both Democrats, who denied that there were any problems, who refused Bush administration requests to set up a regulatory agency to watch over Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and who were still pushing for these agencies to go even further in promoting subprime mortgage loans almost up to the minute they failed.

As Thomas Sowell points out in a TownHall.com essay entitled Do Facts Matter? "Alan Greenspan warned them four years ago. So did the Chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers to the President. So did Bush's Secretary of the Treasury."

These are facts. This financial crisis was completely preventable. The party that blocked any attempt to prevent it was ... the Democratic Party. The party that tried to prevent it was ... the Republican Party.

Yet when Nancy Pelosi accused the Bush administration and Republican deregulation of causing the crisis, you in the press did not hold her to account for her lie. Instead, you criticized Republicans who took offense at this lie and refused to vote for the bailout!

What? It's not the liar, but the victims of the lie who are to blame?

Now let's follow the money ... right to the presidential candidate who is the number-two recipient of campaign contributions from Fannie Mae.

And after Freddie Raines, the CEO of Fannie Mae who made $90 million while running it into the ground, was fired for his incompetence, one presidential candidate's campaign actually consulted him for advice on housing.

If that presidential candidate had been John McCain, you would have called it a major scandal and we would be getting stories in your paper every day about how incompetent and corrupt he was.

But instead, that candidate was Barack Obama, and so you have buried this story, and when the McCain campaign dared to call Raines an "adviser" to the Obama campaign -- because that campaign had sought his advice -- you actually let Obama's people get away with accusing McCain of lying, merely because Raines wasn't listed as an official adviser to the Obama campaign.

You would never tolerate such weasely nit-picking from a Republican.

If you who produce our local daily paper actually had any principles, you would be pounding this story, because the prosperity of all Americans was put at risk by the foolish, short-sighted, politically selfish, and possibly corrupt actions of leading Democrats, including Obama.

If you who produce our local daily paper had any personal honor, you would find it unbearable to let the American people believe that somehow Republicans were to blame for this crisis.

There are precedents. Even though President Bush and his administration never said that Iraq sponsored or was linked to 9/11, you could not stand the fact that Americans had that misapprehension -- so you pounded us with the fact that there was no such link. (Along the way, you created the false impression that Bush had lied to them and said that there was a connection.)

If you had any principles, then surely right now, when the American people are set to blame President Bush and John McCain for a crisis they tried to prevent, and are actually shifting to approve of Barack Obama because of a crisis he helped cause, you would be laboring at least as hard to correct that false impression.

Your job, as journalists, is to tell the truth. That's what you claim you do, when you accept people's money to buy or subscribe to your paper.

But right now, you are consenting to or actively promoting a big fat lie -- that the housing crisis should somehow be blamed on Bush, McCain, and the Republicans. You have trained the American people to blame everything bad -- even bad weather -- on Bush, and they are responding as you have taught them to.

If you had any personal honor, each reporter and editor would be insisting on telling the truth -- even if it hurts the election chances of your favorite candidate.

Because that's what honorable people do. Honest people tell the truth even when they don't like the probable consequences. That's what honesty means. That's how trust is earned.

Barack Obama is just another politician, and not a very wise one. He has revealed his ignorance and naivete time after time -- and you have swept it under the rug, treated it as nothing.

Meanwhile, you have participated in the borking of Sarah Palin, reporting savage attacks on her for the pregnancy of her unmarried daughter -- while you ignored the story of John Edwards's own adultery for many months.

So I ask you now: Do you have any standards at all? Do you even know what honesty means?

Is getting people to vote for Barack Obama so important that you will throw away everything that journalism is supposed to stand for?

You might want to remember the way the National Organization of Women threw away their integrity by supporting Bill Clinton despite his well-known pattern of sexual exploitation of powerless women. Who listens to NOW anymore? We know they stand for nothing; they have no principles.

That's where you are right now.

It's not too late. You know that if the situation were reversed, and the truth would damage McCain and help Obama, you would be moving heaven and earth to get the true story out there.

If you want to redeem your honor, you will swallow hard and make a list of all the stories you would print if it were McCain who had been getting money from Fannie Mae, McCain whose campaign had consulted with its discredited former CEO, McCain who had voted against tightening its lending practices.

Then you will print them, even though every one of those true stories will point the finger of blame at the reckless Democratic Party, which put our nation's prosperity at risk so they could feel good about helping the poor, and lay a fair share of the blame at Obama's door.

You will also tell the truth about John McCain: that he tried, as a Senator, to do what it took to prevent this crisis. You will tell the truth about President Bush: that his administration tried more than once to get Congress to regulate lending in a responsible way.

This was a Congress-caused crisis, beginning during the Clinton administration, with Democrats leading the way into the crisis and blocking every effort to get out of it in a timely fashion.

If you at our local daily newspaper continue to let Americans believe --and vote as if -- President Bush and the Republicans caused the crisis, then you are joining in that lie.

If you do not tell the truth about the Democrats -- including Barack Obama -- and do so with the same energy you would use if the miscreants were Republicans -- then you are not journalists by any standard.

You're just the public relations machine of the Democratic Party, and it's time you were all fired and real journalists brought in, so that we can actually have a daily newspaper in our city.

SBK
10-22-2008, 02:43 PM
I was going to post this article as a good example of what people on the right refer to as 'left wing media bias.'

Amnorix
10-22-2008, 02:46 PM
If he's a Democrat, he's some kind of weird version that I've never seen before.

See his other writings, such as:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-12-1.html

where he says, among other things:

The unconstitutional usurpation of powers by the judges must be brought to an immediate stop.

and you can read his recent article, entitled: "Barack Obama, Spinmeister", here:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-09-07-1.html

Or his old article:

Obama -- Bigot or Elitist?

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-04-13-1.html


Yeah, spare me...

Taco John
10-22-2008, 02:46 PM
The Ender series is awesome. I'm a big fan of Orson Scott Card.

jidar
10-22-2008, 02:56 PM
I'm surprised to see that Orson Scott Card declares himself a democrat. I've read a lot of his stuff before and he comes down on the Right side of the spectrum on a lot of issues.

Amnorix
10-22-2008, 02:57 PM
I'm surprised to see that Orson Scott Card declares himself a democrat. I've read a lot of his stuff before and he comes down on the Right side of the spectrum on the a lot of issues.

:shrug:

So does Kotter...

Mecca
10-22-2008, 02:59 PM
Being a democrat in the south must be weird.

jidar
10-22-2008, 03:02 PM
I'm not a registered Democrat, but I identify with them mostly.
I would say my political leanings are liberal.

I bet my pro-gun stance would be baffling to liberals on the coasts.

Amnorix
10-22-2008, 03:02 PM
Being a democrat in the south must be weird.

Republicans on here wouldn't recongize a Massachusetts Republican, for that matter. Let's just say that they don't exactly fall in line with the Patteeu's or Dongers here, much less the KCJOhnnys or Programmers....

BucEyedPea
10-22-2008, 03:03 PM
I bet my pro-gun stance would be baffling to liberals on the coasts.

I've got an anti-gun control book written by liberal.

Amnorix
10-22-2008, 03:03 PM
I'm not a registered Democrat, but I identify with them mostly.
I would say my political leanings are liberal.

I bet my pro-gun stance would be baffling to liberals on the coasts.

Nah. I think most people have at least one major issue that they disagree with their identified party on.

jidar
10-22-2008, 03:04 PM
Damnit, why are you guys pissing in my cheerios? I want to be special.

SNR
10-22-2008, 03:05 PM
Nah. I think most people have at least one major issue that they disagree with their identified party on.What's yours?

Adept Havelock
10-22-2008, 03:06 PM
If he's a Democrat, he's some kind of weird version that I've never seen before.

See his other writings, such as:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-12-1.html

where he says, among other things:



and you can read his recent article, entitled: "Barack Obama, Spinmeister", here:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-09-07-1.html

Or his old article:

Obama -- Bigot or Elitist?

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-04-13-1.html


Yeah, spare me...

His ranting in favor of censorship some years ago was a bit disturbing, IMO.

Mecca
10-22-2008, 03:06 PM
Republicans on here wouldn't recongize a Massachusetts Republican, for that matter. Let's just say that they don't exactly fall in line with the Patteeu's or Dongers here, much less the KCJOhnnys or Programmers....

That must explain Mitt Romenys problem, other than his name being Mitt.

WilliamTheIrish
10-22-2008, 03:08 PM
WHAT!!! IT!!! IS!!!111111111111111

Velvet_Jones
10-22-2008, 03:14 PM
Its funny - you Democrats want to kill the messenger but don't have the balls argue that what he wrote was the truth. What a bunch of tards.

Amnorix
10-22-2008, 03:16 PM
Its funny - you Democrats want to kill the messenger but don't have the balls argue that what he wrote was the truth. What a bunch of tards.


His message has been argued here quite a bit. The only thing "new" here is that the messenger is supposedly a Democrat.

The fact that he is obviously some kind of Unabomber version of a Democrat really defeats the "newness" of this altogether.

SNR
10-22-2008, 03:17 PM
His message has been argued here quite a bit. The only thing "new" here is that the messenger is supposedly a Democrat.

The fact that he is obviously some kind of Unabomber version of a Democrat really defeats the "newness" of this altogether.So Republicans don't get a break when they have a liberal as their party nomination for president?

jidar
10-22-2008, 03:22 PM
So Republicans don't get a break when they have a liberal as their party nomination for president?

What?

Velvet_Jones
10-22-2008, 03:23 PM
His message has been argued here quite a bit. The only thing "new" here is that the messenger is supposedly a Democrat.

The fact that he is obviously some kind of Unabomber version of a Democrat really defeats the "newness" of this altogether.

So - should Frank, Dodd and Pelosi be held accountable. Short answer will suffice. Yes or No?

Mr Luzcious
10-22-2008, 03:27 PM
The Ender series is awesome. I'm a big fan of Orson Scott Card.

Yeah, I was wondering if this was the same guy..

StcChief
10-22-2008, 03:59 PM
I'm not a registered Democrat, but I identify with them mostly.
I would say my political leanings are liberal.

I bet my pro-gun stance would be baffling to liberals on the coasts.

the middle of America (aka Flyover) doesn't exist to the coasts? we don't matter. No one lives there.

Adept Havelock
10-22-2008, 04:01 PM
the middle of America (aka Flyover) doesn't exist to the coasts? we don't matter. No one lives there.

Huh. I thought you were busy wanking to a copy of the film "Executive Action".

jjjayb
10-22-2008, 04:02 PM
If he's a Democrat, he's some kind of weird version that I've never seen before.

See his other writings, such as:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-10-12-1.html

where he says, among other things:



and you can read his recent article, entitled: "Barack Obama, Spinmeister", here:

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-09-07-1.html

Or his old article:

Obama -- Bigot or Elitist?

http://www.ornery.org/essays/warwatch/2008-04-13-1.html


Yeah, spare me...

Which doesn't change the truth of this writing. You know damn well that Biden and Obama have gotten a free pass from the press.

SBK
10-22-2008, 07:21 PM
This thread is classic.

HolmeZz
10-22-2008, 07:35 PM
Card appears to be anti-gay, anti-birth control, doesn't believe in global warming, is a critic of Darwinism, loves Fox News, supports the Patriot Act, and defends the War in Iraq. And judging from the view articles I browsed, it's likely he twice voted for the Bush/Cheney ticket and has endorsed McCain this year.

The only position I see of his that aligns with the Democratic party platform is his support of gun-control.

He's definitely a rare breed as far as 'Democrats' go. He comes across as Kotter as he continually mentions he's really a Democrat like it somehow enhances or lends credence to his opinions.

Ultra Peanut
10-22-2008, 07:38 PM
LIEBRULLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ultra Peanut
10-22-2008, 07:41 PM
Which doesn't change the truth of this writing. You know damn well that Biden and Obama have gotten a free pass from the press.Hol' up a minute, yo victim complex needs patching up.

When the media was focusing on the accusations being thrown at Obama all summer, what was the Republican refrain? "Look how much they're talking about Obama! LIEBRULLLLL MEDIA!!!!"

Now that the McCain campaign is a seven-ring circus with clowns, torch-bearing mobs, and hyperbolic proclamations on a daily basis, the media is covering their horseshit because it's the sort of mindbogglingly crazy shit that brings in viewers. What's the Republican refrain? "Look how much they're not talking about Obama! LIEBRULLLLL MEDIA!!!!"

People can't look away from a trainwreck.

Boyceofsummer
10-22-2008, 07:53 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act

The bills were introduced in the U.S. Senate by Phil Gramm (R-Texas) and in the U.S. House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa).

I've posted this before. Go ahead. Blame the poor people. Yo have had your day for eight years. Change is comming.

sportsshrink
10-22-2008, 08:43 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gramm-Leach-Bliley_Act

The bills were introduced in the U.S. Senate by Phil Gramm (R-Texas) and in the U.S. House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa).

I've posted this before. Go ahead. Blame the poor people. Yo have had your day for eight years. Change is comming.

This has nothing to do with the "housing crisis". This has to do with investments. People who have $$ to invest not the "poor" who have no $$ to invest.

Get the facts! It was your glorious "messiah" and Dem power brokers who put pressure on the lending institutions to make these risky loans to those folks who could not afford them. Do you think they really helped the poor out of the goodness of their own heart? Hell NO! They found a way to appear generous to the poor while stealing $$(kickbacks) making it look legal(i.e. Franklin Raines). Once again the DEMS exploit their own.:shake:

Velvet_Jones
10-22-2008, 10:50 PM
So - should Frank, Dodd and Pelosi be held accountable. Short answer will suffice. Yes or No?

I didn't think you would answer this. Get Obama's d!ck out of your mouth and answer this.

Boyceofsummer
10-22-2008, 10:55 PM
This has nothing to do with the "housing crisis". This has to do with investments. People who have $$ to invest not the "poor" who have no $$ to invest.

Get the facts! It was your glorious "messiah" and Dem power brokers who put pressure on the lending institutions to make these risky loans to those folks who could not afford them. Do you think they really helped the poor out of the goodness of their own heart? Hell NO! They found a way to appear generous to the poor while stealing $$(kickbacks) making it look legal(i.e. Franklin Raines). Once again the DEMS exploit their own.:shake:

you'll feel better come November 5th.

SBK
10-22-2008, 11:09 PM
I didn't think you would answer this. Get Obama's d!ck out of your mouth and answer this.

There will be no answer. LMAO

SBK
10-23-2008, 11:45 AM
Finally something we can all agree on!

This is a great example of media bias and of democrats getting a free pass from their friends in the media right?