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memyselfI
10-31-2008, 06:49 AM
Well, that didn't take long. I mean, I thought the guy would actually WIN before they started with the excuses why they can't or won't succeed in their lofty promises and souring, er, soaring rhetoric.

Watching Obots who claimed NObo would do all these things now pivot and explain why he can't should provide top quality entertainment value. Pop the popcorn, resisters.



http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5051118.ece

Barack Obama’s senior advisers have drawn up plans to lower expectations for his presidency if he wins next week’s election, amid concerns that many of his euphoric supporters are harbouring unrealistic hopes of what he can achieve.

The sudden financial crisis and the prospect of a deep and painful recession have increased the urgency inside the Obama team to bring people down to earth, after a campaign in which his soaring rhetoric and promises of “hope” and “change” are now confronted with the reality of a stricken economy.

One senior adviser told The Times that the first few weeks of the transition, immediately after the election, were critical, “so there’s not a vast mood swing from exhilaration and euphoria to despair”. ROFL

The aide said that Mr Obama himself was the first to realise that expectations risked being inflated.

In an interview with a Colorado radio station, Mr Obama appeared to be engaged already in expectation lowering. Asked about his goals for the first hundred days, he said he would need more time to tackle such big and costly issues as health care reform, global warming and Iraq. “The first hundred days is going to be important, but it’s probably going to be the first thousand days that makes the difference,” he said. He has also been reminding crowds in recent days how “hard” it will be to achieve his goals, and that it will take time.

“I won’t stand here and pretend that any of this will be easy – especially now,” Mr Obama told a rally in Sarasota, Florida, yesterday, citing “the cost of this economic crisis, and the cost of the war in Iraq”. Mr Obama’s transition team is headed by John Podesta, a Washington veteran and a former chief-of-staff to Bill Clinton. He has spent months overseeing a virtual Democratic government-in-exile to plan a smooth transition should Mr Obama emerge victorious next week. The plans are so far advanced that an Obama Cabinet has been largely decided upon, with the expectation that most of his senior appointments could be announced shortly after election day.

Yet Mr Obama and his aides are under no illusions about the size of the challenges the Democrat will inherit if he enters the Oval Office. Tom Daschle, the party’s former leader in the US Senate and a strong contender for the post of White House chief-of-staff in an Obama administration, said last month that the winner next week would have only a 50 per cent chance of winning a second term in 2012.

Not only will the next president take office with the country sliding into a potentially long recession — and mired in debt — but the challenges abroad are immense. There is an unfinished war in Iraq, a worsening situation in Afghanistan and an unstable and nuclear-armed Pakistan to contend with. Iran appears intent on acquiring the bomb and there remains the ever-present threat from al-Qaeda and Islamic extremists.

If he wins, Mr Obama will inherit a Democratic-controlled Congress, and might even have the benefit of a 60-seat filibuster-proof “supermajority” in the Senate. Such a scenario would allow him to push through legislation largely unfettered by Republican opposition. Yet it also means that should the country still be mired in recession in three years’ time, voters — who have short memories — will probably blame him and the Democrats on Capitol Hill. Those stakes have led Mr Obama to conclude that while expectations need to be tempered, big things need to be achieved very early in his first term, when he will still have the political capital to achieve some of his most ambitious legislative goals.

Having promised “real” change, the pressure will be on him to deliver. In the Colorado interview, Mr Obama added: “The next president has got to come quickly out of the box.”

The early priorities being lined up if he takes power are a mixture of symbolism and substance. He plans to make a major address in a big Muslim country early in his first term. Having pledged on the campaign trail to close Guantanamo Bay, he is also determined to make early moves to rid America of the controversial prison. Yet what to do with the remaining inmates looms as an intractable problem, as many of their home governments refuse to allow them to return.

Mr Obama’s first legislative goals will be to follow through on his pledge to cut taxes for the middle class and raise them for the wealthiest Americans, and to push through a hugely expensive Bill to provide near-universal health insurance.

KCJohnny
10-31-2008, 08:01 AM
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You mean like live up to this Moses and the Chosen People moment?

chiefforlife
10-31-2008, 08:53 AM
This is geared toward people like Meme and KCjohnny, you know the people who think he is the Messiah.
Most people are realistic in their expectations. Since the economy went to shit in the past few months, of course that will effect his overall plan, most could understand this.

RaiderH8r
10-31-2008, 09:06 AM
This is geared toward people like Meme and KCjohnny, you know the people who think he is the Messiah.
Most people are realistic in their expectations. Since the economy went to shit in the past few months, of course that will effect his overall plan, most could understand this.

I don't think he's the Messiah, he's just been cast as one.

If most people were realistic in their expectations they would have been more skeptical of his snake oil sales pitch in the first place. No, people like this pretend friend to humanity ain't we all just f'ing great now let's get along happy horseshit but now that governance is a real possibility the Messiah and his acolytes are trying to get the bar down. This is made all the more absurd when you consider the makeup of the legislative that Barry would be dealing with.

BigCatDaddy
10-31-2008, 09:15 AM
Is he trying to say I won't get my huge tax cut and free healthcare that I was promised? :)

There will be lots of pissed of people next year.

chiefforlife
10-31-2008, 09:25 AM
Is he trying to say I won't get my huge tax cut and free healthcare that I was promised? :)

There will be lots of pissed of people next year.

There is already a LOT of pissed off people, thats why we are electing Obama!

irishjayhawk
10-31-2008, 09:33 AM
Obama goes from euphoria from winning to realistic emotion for the situation(s) at hand.

SHOCKING.

Dare I say it?

GAME CHANGER

BigCatDaddy
10-31-2008, 09:39 AM
There is already a LOT of pissed off people, thats why we are electing Obama!

Maybe disappointed would be a better word.

chiefforlife
10-31-2008, 09:43 AM
Maybe disappointed would be a better word.

When you are at the bottom of the barrel, looking up, how disappointed can you be? Seriously?

BigCatDaddy
10-31-2008, 09:45 AM
When you are at the bottom of the barrel, looking up, how disappointed can you be? Seriously?

The average Obama supporter believes he will do everything he has said he would. You and I may know better, but they don't. That is where the disappointment will come.

Ultra Peanut
10-31-2008, 09:49 AM
The average Obama supporter believes he will do everything he has said he would. You and I may no better, but they don't. That is where the disappointment will come.You're a creationist. You're in a funny position to be claiming to "no" better than anyone.

BigCatDaddy
10-31-2008, 09:53 AM
You're a creationist. You're in a funny position to be claiming to "no" better than anyone.

So you feel people making under 250K will get a tax cut? Was that a cheap shot at my being a Christian?

irishjayhawk
10-31-2008, 09:55 AM
You're a creationist. You're in a funny position to be claiming to "no" better than anyone.

Man, that is a sweet post.

KCJohnny
10-31-2008, 09:58 AM
So you feel people making under 250K will get a tax cut?

These guys are mostly too young to remember Jimmy Carter, who BTW is to the right of BHO.

The silver lining here is that Obama will create a GOP landslide in the 2010 midterms and we will get the House back.

BigCatDaddy
10-31-2008, 10:02 AM
Man, that is a sweet post.

I'm devestated :(

RaiderH8r
10-31-2008, 10:20 AM
These guys are mostly too young to remember Jimmy Carter, who BTW is to the right of BHO.

The silver lining here is that Obama will create a GOP landslide in the 2010 midterms and we will get the House back.

That's been my silver lining. Do you get Reagan without Carter? Perhaps Republicans don't go back to their roots until forced to by the neo-communist movement embodied by Barry O's.

KCJohnny
10-31-2008, 10:23 AM
That's been my silver lining. Do you get Reagan without Carter? Perhaps Republicans don't go back to their roots until forced to by the neo-communist movement embodied by Barry O's.

I am not giving up on McCain/Palin. This election is going to invite more investigations than the 2000 elections. The Obamatons at ACORN have hosed any chance for fair elections so a close race will be a scrutinizied race when it comes to process.

That said, if Obama wins, the GOP's season in the wilderness will hopefully send them back to the conservative roots of Goldwater/Reagan/Gingrich.

RaiderH8r
10-31-2008, 10:38 AM
I am not giving up on McCain/Palin. This election is going to invite more investigations than the 2000 elections. The Obamatons at ACORN have hosed any chance for fair elections so a close race will be a scrutinizied race when it comes to process.

That said, if Obama wins, the GOP's season in the wilderness will hopefully send them back to the conservative roots of Goldwater/Reagan/Gingrich.

I appreciate your optimism but the fat lady has sung, hit the free buffet and taken a dump. This puppy's over. Early voting pretty much sealed the deal. McCain needs an election night stunner to pull this off.

That said, I still encourage people to get out and vote to trim the margin of victory and vote those down ticket races.

***SPRAYER
10-31-2008, 10:49 AM
This is the best part:

If he wins, Mr Obama will inherit a Democratic-controlled Congress, and might even have the benefit of a 60-seat filibuster-proof “supermajority” in the Senate. Such a scenario would allow him to push through legislation largely unfettered by Republican opposition. Yet it also means that should the country still be mired in recession in three years’ time, voters — who have short memories — will probably blame him and the Democrats on Capitol Hill. Those stakes have led Mr Obama to conclude that while expectations need to be tempered, big things need to be achieved very early in his first term, when he will still have the political capital to achieve some of his most ambitious legislative goals.

B.O. must strike while the iron is hot. There is no way he's not going to try and push through as many of his socialist utopion policies as he can in the small window of opportunity he will have.

He's waited his whole life for this chance--- and so have all of the Marxist elitists who have financed his campaign.

The_Grand_Illusion
10-31-2008, 01:57 PM
I have to admit, I didn’t pay any attention to what was going on this year with the Democrat primaries. With MemyselfI against Obama, and Big Daddy’s thread about Dems may already be crossing over to vote for McCain, it made me wonder what happened that may be causing this. Even though I don’t always agree with the other side, I have always tried to understand why they believe their side of the issue. I don’t think it hurts to at least understand. This is something that seems to be lost on many these days and you see a lot of it here. That being said I’ve been reading sites like Hill Buzz and the PUMA site to get an understanding of what happened in the primaries and why these Democrats are so against Obama.

I happened to stumble across this video in four parts. Even though it’s kind of long it’s worth watching the testimony of what happened to these Democrats and get a better understanding of what happened in the primaries. It is called “We Will Not Be Silenced” This is part One:

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Part Two: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BXNqFQmGxDU

Part Three: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4XFvq5XMk8

Part Four: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cnclKiHwatw

I was raised a Dem but I no longer agree with how you help others. I just believe it should be in the private sector instead of government. We should be learning a lesson with what happened with Freddy Mac and Fannie Mae on how government can screw up and corrupt a good idea.

Taking off the party blinders and speaking as an American, I found what happened to these Democrats appalling. Obama’s campaign was out of control and it’s the kind of thuggery that happens in third world countries. This video should open some eyes on what to expect from an Obama administration. It is very scary and very un-American.

The part that ripped my heart out was in Part Three where an elderly African-American was told by two big African-American thugs that she could not vote there if she wasn’t going to vote for Obama. She left because she felt intimidated. The African-American lady that witnessed this was just appalled because as a minority she has fought hard for civil rights and the right to vote only to be told by two African-American thugs that they could not vote if they didn’t vote for Obama. Is this the community organizing Obama speaks of? As a minority myself, this just angers me to no end what the radical left will do just to get their guy in there. I understand where these PUMA Democrats are coming from now and I now stand with you. With these tactics and the radical associations, Obama and his followers MUST be defeated.

TGI

Robo-Chachi
10-31-2008, 02:02 PM
Why, just last week an Obama thug carved a 'B' into my cheek. He was on a cellphone. I'm pretty sure he was speaking to Obama himself.

The_Grand_Illusion
10-31-2008, 02:06 PM
Why, just last week an Obama thug carved a 'B' into my cheek. He was on a cellphone. I'm pretty sure he was speaking to Obama himself.


I'm not even a Dem but this videos of these Democrat testimonies disturbed me very much.

Robo-Chachi
10-31-2008, 02:10 PM
I'm not even a Dem but this videos of these Democrat testimonies disturbed me very much.

So, are you holding John McCain responsible for the girl who faked the mugging story or the 2 guys who hung Obama in effigy?

I'm so tired of people trying to hold either candidate responsible for the actions of individuals.

Both sides have extremely unfavorable supporters.

The_Grand_Illusion
10-31-2008, 02:15 PM
So, are you holding John McCain responsible for the girl who faked the mugging story or the 2 guys who hung Obama in effigy?

I'm so tired of people trying to hold either candidate responsible for the actions of individuals.

Both sides have extremely unfavorable supporters.

I agree their is stupid on both sides of the aisle but you are deflecting. This happened on the Dem side of the aisle during the primaries. I had no dog in that fight but found it appalling of what happened. Watch the four parts before commenting.

Bowser
10-31-2008, 02:22 PM
I appreciate your optimism but the fat lady has sung, hit the free buffet and taken a dump.

LMAO