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BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 12:52 PM
Any repercussions should Obama get in?

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 12:55 PM
More competitive bidding and more careful oversight of spending for contractors could result in savings. Not exactly military, but military-related.

HolmeZz
10-31-2008, 01:01 PM
I think it's likely they'll turn on us and blood will be in the streets.

|Zach|
10-31-2008, 01:05 PM
Are you insinuating our military wouldn't fully serve Obama as the C+C of our nation?

Pretty disrespectful to our troops and the honor they have always served with.

Chiefnj2
10-31-2008, 01:07 PM
They are more likley to get veteran benefits?

Robo-Chachi
10-31-2008, 01:07 PM
Thankfully our military personnel are more level-headed than Internet fear mongers.

Mecca
10-31-2008, 01:08 PM
Thankfully our military personnel are more level-headed than Internet fear mongers.

Cue KCJohnny.

Woodrow Call
10-31-2008, 01:11 PM
Aren't they going to overthrow the government if Obama gets elected?

Sully
10-31-2008, 01:19 PM
I assume there will be a military coup.

nychief
10-31-2008, 01:20 PM
If they served under W. in a illegal war... they can serve under anybody.

Donger
10-31-2008, 01:21 PM
Does Barack Hussein know how to salute? Or, is he going to need lessons like Clinton did?

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 01:25 PM
Does Barack Hussein know how to salute? Or, is he going to need lessons like Clinton did?

Yea he grabs his package.

nychief
10-31-2008, 01:27 PM
Does Barack Hussein know how to salute? Or, is he going to need lessons like Clinton did?


Good one Donger. That is really funny. really.

Hey, did the air national guard teach W. to salute?

Donger
10-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Good one Donger. That is really funny. really.

Hey, did the air national guard teach W. to salute?

I don't think it's funny. I think it's moderately pathetic.

nychief
10-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Yea he grabs his package.


Big daddy is not so big, I see...

Rooster
10-31-2008, 01:28 PM
Does Barack Hussein know how to salute? Or, is he going to need lessons like Clinton did?

ROFL He will need to be coached for sure.

nychief
10-31-2008, 01:29 PM
I don't think it's funny. I think it's moderately pathetic.


You would know pathetic.

patteeu
10-31-2008, 01:29 PM
Any repercussions should Obama get in?

Yeah, new uniforms:

ChiefsCountry
10-31-2008, 01:31 PM
Yeah, new uniforms:

Our new flag to go along with the new unis:
http://boortz.com/images/surrender_flag.jpg

Frazod
10-31-2008, 01:31 PM
My friend the Air Force Major is 100% in favor of Obama getting elected.

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 01:33 PM
Yeah, new uniforms:I noticed that you changed the pic. What exactly are you searching for on google? Better yet, why? (Don't worry, you don't have to incriminate yourself vis-a-vis your fetishes).

jAZ
10-31-2008, 01:34 PM
Fewer dead soldiers in the next 8 years?

Donger
10-31-2008, 01:36 PM
You would know pathetic.

It's pathetic to hope that our C-in-C knows how to properly return salutes?

patteeu
10-31-2008, 01:40 PM
I noticed that you changed the pic. What exactly are you searching for on google? Better yet, why? (Don't worry, you don't have to incriminate yourself vis-a-vis your fetishes).

My search string was "Pink Camoflage Dress" which I amended to "Pink Camouflage Dress" when google helpfully indicated that I'd misspelled one of the words. I wasn't satisfied that my results were optimal so I also searched for "Pink Camo Dress" just to cover the hip lingo base.

I switched the picture because the first one took way too long to load. I'm looking out for my fellow narrow bandwidth users.

warrior
10-31-2008, 01:41 PM
It's pathetic to hope that our C-in-C knows how to properly return salutes?

How do you know he dosn't, please enlighten us. ::rolleyes:

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 01:42 PM
How do you know he dosn't, please enlighten us. ::rolleyes:I would guess he does; Donger is just being silly or whatever.

Amnorix
10-31-2008, 01:43 PM
Does Barack Hussein know how to salute? Or, is he going to need lessons like Clinton did?

Why should he salute anyone? The POTUS gets saluted. I could care less if he returns it with anything other than a nod and a friendly smile.

patteeu
10-31-2008, 01:43 PM
How do you know he dosn't, please enlighten us. ::rolleyes:

You're misreading his post. He didn't say he knows, he asked the question.

Donger
10-31-2008, 01:44 PM
How do you know he dosn't, please enlighten us. ::rolleyes:

I don't know. That's why I asked. However, compared to someone who has served in the military, unlike Clinton, odds are more likely that he does not than someone who has.

Amnorix
10-31-2008, 01:44 PM
It's pathetic to hope that our C-in-C knows how to properly return salutes?

He's a civilian. Why should anyone care?

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 01:47 PM
He's a civilian. Why should anyone care?

Besides the package salute is more fitting. It goes better with the GOD DAMN AMERICA line.

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 01:47 PM
I don't know. That's why I asked. However, compared to someone who has served in the military, unlike Clinton, odds are more likely that he does not than someone who has.What exactly were you referring to as "pathetic?"

Amnorix
10-31-2008, 01:47 PM
Besides the package salute is more fitting. It goes better with the GOD DAMN AMERICA line.

:rolleyes:

warrior
10-31-2008, 01:48 PM
:My friend the Air Force Major is 100% in favor of Obama getting elected.



:thumb:

My nephew too Air Force, my younger brother also lifer Navy.

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 01:48 PM
He's a civilian. Why should anyone care?The right would prefer that we not focus on more important issues for whatever reason.

Mecca
10-31-2008, 01:49 PM
:rolleyes:

Were you really expecting a logical response from him?

vailpass
10-31-2008, 01:50 PM
Budget just passed, basically everything is the same. They cut a few million off of Future Force Warrior and SPAWAR, C4 is funded at the same level, tabled the award of the new tanker contract for the next administration to decide (Northrop Grumman got caught doing what everyone does), FCS (Future Combat Systems) is looking like a money pit and will be reviewed by the next administration.

If Obama is elected it is to be hoped he has the sense to appoint subject matter experts who will keep him from setting America back.

Bowser
10-31-2008, 01:50 PM
Besides the package salute is more fitting. It goes better with the GOD DAMN AMERICA line.

You're coming off as the non-religious Proctor.

Bowser
10-31-2008, 01:51 PM
For what it is worth, there is a proper way to salute, and most people need to be coached once or twice on how to get it right.

Taco John
10-31-2008, 01:51 PM
Damn them civilians for aspiring to be president. Damn them to hell.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 01:51 PM
The right would prefer that we not focus on more important issues for whatever reason.

You mean like Obama's promises coming apart quicker than shrapnel in a roadside bomb.

Amnorix
10-31-2008, 01:52 PM
Budget just passed, basically everything is the same. They cut a few million off of Future Force Warrior and SPAWAR, C4 is funded at the same level, tabled the award of the new tanker contract for the next administration to decide (Northrop Grumman got caught doing what everyone does), FCS (Future Combat Systems) is looking like a money pit and will be reviewed by the next administration.

If Obama is elected it is to be hoped he has the sense to appoint subject matter experts who will keep him from setting America back.

If FCS is the new battle outfit thing, then it needs to go. It's beyond a money pit. I don't object to the concept, but it's waaaay beyond what we can afford, and the technological challenge is extraordinary. Let's let technology catch up to our dreams a bit.

The DOD will/should be run by someone who has a clue. Powell (unlikely) or Clark or whomever. The Democrats are never dumb enough to put in an anti-military guy.

O fcourse, nobody we put in could rattle their cages more than Rummy did, really, and to less useful effect...

Donger
10-31-2008, 01:52 PM
Why should he salute anyone? The POTUS gets saluted. I could care less if he returns it with anything other than a nod and a friendly smile.

Tradition and showing some acknowledgment of the people he commands?

VAChief
10-31-2008, 01:53 PM
You're coming off as the non-religious Proctor.

ProPornProctor maybe?

Donger
10-31-2008, 01:54 PM
What exactly were you referring to as "pathetic?"

Having a C-in-C who has to be get lessons on saluting properly.

Bowser
10-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Having a C-in-C who has to be get lessons on saluting properly.

See post 39.

nychief
10-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Tradition and showing some acknowledgment of the people he commands?

The military circle jerk continues...

J Diddy
10-31-2008, 01:55 PM
Having a C-in-C who has to be get lessons on saluting properly.


That's pretty weak even for you.

warrior
10-31-2008, 01:56 PM
Yea he grabs his package.

Picturing this, I think it would be pretty funny.

Change Baby. :thumb:

vailpass
10-31-2008, 01:56 PM
The military circle jerk continues...

What a stupid thing to say.

ziggysocki
10-31-2008, 01:56 PM
For what it is worth, there is a proper way to salute, and most people need to be coached once or twice on how to get it right.

And I for one do not think that that expecting the highest ranking military officer to salute correctly is too much to ask of our president. IMHO at least some type of military service should be a requirement for the office... It seems strange for someone to lead an organization so specialized as our military without ever having been in it's ranks.

Taco John
10-31-2008, 01:57 PM
Here are the new boots to go with the new military uniform...

http://img.auctiva.com/imgdata/0/0/9/9/7/4/webimg/34316238_o.jpg

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 01:57 PM
Having a C-in-C who has to be get lessons on saluting properly.Two questions: 1) Who needs those lessons? 2) Why would that be pathetic?

Mizzou_8541
10-31-2008, 01:57 PM
The military circle jerk continues...

I don't get it....

Amnorix
10-31-2008, 01:58 PM
Tradition and showing some acknowledgment of the people he commands?

So, do you rank this right up there with fixing the economy and Iraq, or is this a half-step above those silly items?

Abortion?

deficits?

tax policy?

views on Supreme Court nominees?

Where exactly DOES this fit in the grand scheme of things?

Taco John
10-31-2008, 01:58 PM
IMHO at least some type of military service should be a requirement for the office...



F*ck that.

vailpass
10-31-2008, 01:58 PM
If FCS is the new battle outfit thing, then it needs to go. It's beyond a money pit. I don't object to the concept, but it's waaaay beyond what we can afford, and the technological challenge is extraordinary. Let's let technology catch up to our dreams a bit.

The DOD will/should be run by someone who has a clue. Powell (unlikely) or Clark or whomever. The Democrats are never dumb enough to put in an anti-military guy.

O fcourse, nobody we put in could rattle their cages more than Rummy did, really, and to less useful effect...

Yes that is part of FCS. It is subject to a negative budget adjustment.

Amnorix
10-31-2008, 01:59 PM
And I for one do not think that that expecting the highest ranking military officer to salute correctly is too much to ask of our president. IMHO at least some type of military service should be a requirement for the office... It seems strange for someone to lead an organization so specialized as our military without ever having been in it's ranks.


You have got to be ****ing kidding me. You've just said that nobody should be elected POTUS unless they are former military. That's insane.

nychief
10-31-2008, 02:00 PM
Funny. I think an IQ test should be required to be POTUS.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 02:02 PM
Picturing this, I think it would be pretty funny.

Change Baby. :thumb:

Here is his salute to the flag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tz6jc45TQhU

Radar Chief
10-31-2008, 02:06 PM
Two questions: 1) Who needs those lessons?

Pretty much anyone that hasnít been in the military.
You do realize there is a protocol to the salute, or do you think you just throw the edge of your hand up to your forehead any ole goofy way and thatís good enough?

2) Why would that be pathetic?

Since pretty much anyone that hasnít been in the military would need to learn how, I donít know.

morphius
10-31-2008, 02:06 PM
If they served under W. in a illegal war... they can serve under anybody.
ROFL

Do you believe that Saddam held up ALL the conditions of his first surrender? Oh never mind it isn't worth it...

HC_Chief
10-31-2008, 02:11 PM
If they served under W. in a illegal war... they can serve under anybody.

:spock:
Are you stupid, or merely repeating the words of a stupid person you know?

Uncle_Ted
10-31-2008, 02:14 PM
I'm sure Obama will do something super-radical and un-American ... like asking Gates to remain as Sec. Def.

:D

Mizzou_8541
10-31-2008, 02:19 PM
They are more likley to get veteran benefits?

I am quoting your post Mr. Chiefnj2, but I am not necessarily directing this toward you.

I have a problem with this statement as I hear it come all to often from my fellow veterans. I hate the fact that we appear to be ("we" being new G.W.O.T. veterans) moving in a direction of entitlement. Did we serve our country? Absolutely! Did we do it willingly and knowingly put ourselves into danger for a cause that we believed in? Again, yes!

But the "more benefits" argument really irks me. I am currently taking advantage of the G.I. Bill and I receive disability benefits every month for injuries incurred in Iraq. My problem is, I understood what I was getting into when I signed on the dotted line. I enlisted for my neighbors, family and millions of Americans that were affected by 9/11. I didn't do it because I thought of the military as a cash cow or otherwise.

I am saddened to see veterans groups manipulating the "support the troops" feelings for greater monetary gain. It appears to me they are tarnishing the legacy of the kids who did not come home. I know many of my friends who were hurt significantly more severe than I, and each one of them has received very good care. The veterans I am refering to are the one who manipulate the system by quid pro quo...the "if you don't do this, we will tell everyone you don't support the troops" veterans.

My point in my post is that not all veterans are out to get every single penny possible. many of us, like myself, enlisted for something greater than themselves. So when I see statements like more benefits for the veterans, I hope everyone knows that we all aren't using veteran status as an entitlement. I for one am completely satisfied with what I receive.

Anyway, I will step off the soapbox.

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 02:23 PM
Pretty much anyone that hasnít been in the military.
You do realize there is a protocol to the salute, or do you think you just throw the edge of your hand up to your forehead any ole goofy way and thatís good enough?



Since pretty much anyone that hasnít been in the military would need to learn how, I donít know.My father taught me when I was young.

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 02:26 PM
I am quoting your post Mr. Chiefnj2, but I am not necessarily directing this toward you.

I have a problem with this statement as I hear it come all to often from my fellow veterans. I hate the fact that we appear to be ("we" being new G.W.O.T. veterans) moving in a direction of entitlement. Did we serve our country? Absolutely! Did we do it willingly and knowingly put ourselves into danger for a cause that we believed in? Again, yes!

But the "more benefits" argument really irks me. I am currently taking advantage of the G.I. Bill and I receive disability benefits every month for injuries incurred in Iraq. My problem is, I understood what I was getting into when I signed on the dotted line. I enlisted for my neighbors, family and millions of Americans that were affected by 9/11. I didn't do it because I thought of the military as a cash cow or otherwise.

I am saddened to see veterans groups manipulating the "support the troops" feelings for greater monetary gain. It appears to me they are tarnishing the legacy of the kids who did not come home. I know many of my friends who were hurt significantly more severe than I, and each one of them has received very good care. The veterans I am refering to are the one who manipulate the system by quid pro quo...the "if you don't do this, we will tell everyone you don't support the troops" veterans.

My point in my post is that not all veterans are out to get every single penny possible. many of us, like myself, enlisted for something greater than themselves. So when I see statements like more benefits for the veterans, I hope everyone knows that we all aren't using veteran status as an entitlement. I for one am completely satisfied with what I receive.

Anyway, I will step off the soapbox.I think you may have misread his post. He didn't say more benefits; he said more likely to get them. We run into this problem in higher ed. Vets are promised money for college that they often have trouble getting. Most of them fight to get their financial support and we do what we can to make sure they get it.

Great post on your service nonetheless.

warrior
10-31-2008, 02:27 PM
My father taught me when I was young.

My uncle taught me. Uncle Sam :D

nychief
10-31-2008, 02:28 PM
:spock:
Are you stupid, or merely repeating the words of a stupid person you know?



Sorry fellas - but if you read the Congressional authorization for force that Bush used to launch the invasion of Iraq, Section 3, paragraph B, Bush was required to prove to the Congress that Iraq was in violation of UN Resolutions by still being in possession of weapons of mass destruction.

Which he didn't - or simply faked.

Check out John Robb's Brave New War for more details...

Mizzou_8541
10-31-2008, 02:30 PM
I think you may have misread his post. He didn't say more benefits; he said more likely to get them. We run into this problem in higher ed. Vets are promised money for college that they often have trouble getting. Most of them fight to get their financial support and we do what we can to make sure they get it.

Great post on your service nonetheless.

No, I didn't misread it and it was not directed to Chiefnj at all. It has been something that has concerned me the last couple of weeks and this just reminded me of it. I went on a total tangent.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 02:30 PM
Sorry fellas - but if you read the Congressional authorization for force that Bush used to launch the invasion of Iraq, Section 3, paragraph B, Bush was required to prove to the Congress that Iraq was in violation of UN Resolutions by still being in possession of weapons of mass destruction.

Which he didn't - or simply faked.

Check out John Robb's Brave New War for more details...

I wasn't for the war in Iraq but give me a break.

nychief
10-31-2008, 02:31 PM
Pretty much anyone that hasnít been in the military.
You do realize there is a protocol to the salute, or do you think you just throw the edge of your hand up to your forehead any ole goofy way and thatís good enough?



Since pretty much anyone that hasnít been in the military would need to learn how, I donít know.


Honestly... WHO GIVES A SHIT? This if idiotic... the economy is ruins, we are stuck in Iraq, jobs are being cut... and all the old GI Joes on this board are wringing their hands like old ladies about a salute.

nychief
10-31-2008, 02:31 PM
I wasn't for the war in Iraq but give me a break.

Why?

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 02:33 PM
Why?

Because it's ridiculous that's why.

Donger
10-31-2008, 02:34 PM
So, do you rank this right up there with fixing the economy and Iraq, or is this a half-step above those silly items?

Abortion?

deficits?

tax policy?

views on Supreme Court nominees?

Where exactly DOES this fit in the grand scheme of things?

Somewhere near the bottom, to be sure.

ziggysocki
10-31-2008, 02:42 PM
I am quoting your post Mr. Chiefnj2, but I am not necessarily directing this toward you.

I have a problem with this statement as I hear it come all to often from my fellow veterans. I hate the fact that we appear to be ("we" being new G.W.O.T. veterans) moving in a direction of entitlement. Did we serve our country? Absolutely! Did we do it willingly and knowingly put ourselves into danger for a cause that we believed in? Again, yes!

But the "more benefits" argument really irks me. I am currently taking advantage of the G.I. Bill and I receive disability benefits every month for injuries incurred in Iraq. My problem is, I understood what I was getting into when I signed on the dotted line. I enlisted for my neighbors, family and millions of Americans that were affected by 9/11. I didn't do it because I thought of the military as a cash cow or otherwise.

I am saddened to see veterans groups manipulating the "support the troops" feelings for greater monetary gain. It appears to me they are tarnishing the legacy of the kids who did not come home. I know many of my friends who were hurt significantly more severe than I, and each one of them has received very good care. The veterans I am refering to are the one who manipulate the system by quid pro quo...the "if you don't do this, we will tell everyone you don't support the troops" veterans.

My point in my post is that not all veterans are out to get every single penny possible. many of us, like myself, enlisted for something greater than themselves. So when I see statements like more benefits for the veterans, I hope everyone knows that we all aren't using veteran status as an entitlement. I for one am completely satisfied with what I receive.

Anyway, I will step off the soapbox.

Thank you for your service. Take full advantage of all benefit offered to you. You deserve it.

Radar Chief
10-31-2008, 02:44 PM
Honestly... WHO GIVES A SHIT? This if idiotic... the economy is ruins, we are stuck in Iraq, jobs are being cut... and all the old GI Joes on this board are wringing their hands like old ladies about a salute.

Seeing as how I answered a question and youíre flipping out over what we would agree is nothing, itís looking like youíre more of a ďhand wringing old ladyĒ than anyone else here.

Mizzou_8541
10-31-2008, 02:47 PM
Thank you for your service. Take full advantage of all benefit offered to you. You deserve it.

You are welcome. Sorry for the thread hijack.

patteeu
10-31-2008, 02:49 PM
I'm sure Obama will do something super-radical and un-American ... like asking Gates to remain as Sec. Def.

:D

I don't know if Gates would want to stay on (I get the impression he wasn't all that anxious to come back in the first place), but it wouldn't surprise me that much if Obama asked him to stay on. I'm actually more concerned with what happens at the State Dept. than with the competence of the Pentagon leadership under an Obama presidency.

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 02:52 PM
No, I didn't misread it and it was not directed to Chiefnj at all. It has been something that has concerned me the last couple of weeks and this just reminded me of it. I went on a total tangent.Gotcha. I thought you might have misread his quote since you responded to it. I certainly appreciate your take.

nychief
10-31-2008, 02:53 PM
the competence of the Pentagon leadership under an Obama presidency.


Wait....wait... hold on... let me make sure I read that right...

Okay, every body say it "the competence of the Pentagon leadership"

wow....


of all the worries.

vailpass
10-31-2008, 02:58 PM
I am quoting your post Mr. Chiefnj2, but I am not necessarily directing this toward you.

I have a problem with this statement as I hear it come all to often from my fellow veterans. I hate the fact that we appear to be ("we" being new G.W.O.T. veterans) moving in a direction of entitlement. Did we serve our country? Absolutely! Did we do it willingly and knowingly put ourselves into danger for a cause that we believed in? Again, yes!

But the "more benefits" argument really irks me. I am currently taking advantage of the G.I. Bill and I receive disability benefits every month for injuries incurred in Iraq. My problem is, I understood what I was getting into when I signed on the dotted line. I enlisted for my neighbors, family and millions of Americans that were affected by 9/11. I didn't do it because I thought of the military as a cash cow or otherwise.

I am saddened to see veterans groups manipulating the "support the troops" feelings for greater monetary gain. It appears to me they are tarnishing the legacy of the kids who did not come home. I know many of my friends who were hurt significantly more severe than I, and each one of them has received very good care. The veterans I am refering to are the one who manipulate the system by quid pro quo...the "if you don't do this, we will tell everyone you don't support the troops" veterans.

My point in my post is that not all veterans are out to get every single penny possible. many of us, like myself, enlisted for something greater than themselves. So when I see statements like more benefits for the veterans, I hope everyone knows that we all aren't using veteran status as an entitlement. I for one am completely satisfied with what I receive.

Anyway, I will step off the soapbox.

Respect.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:41 PM
I am quoting your post Mr. Chiefnj2, but I am not necessarily directing this toward you.

I have a problem with this statement as I hear it come all to often from my fellow veterans. I hate the fact that we appear to be ("we" being new G.W.O.T. veterans) moving in a direction of entitlement. Did we serve our country? Absolutely! Did we do it willingly and knowingly put ourselves into danger for a cause that we believed in? Again, yes!

But the "more benefits" argument really irks me. I am currently taking advantage of the G.I. Bill and I receive disability benefits every month for injuries incurred in Iraq. My problem is, I understood what I was getting into when I signed on the dotted line. I enlisted for my neighbors, family and millions of Americans that were affected by 9/11. I didn't do it because I thought of the military as a cash cow or otherwise.

I am saddened to see veterans groups manipulating the "support the troops" feelings for greater monetary gain. It appears to me they are tarnishing the legacy of the kids who did not come home. I know many of my friends who were hurt significantly more severe than I, and each one of them has received very good care. The veterans I am refering to are the one who manipulate the system by quid pro quo...the "if you don't do this, we will tell everyone you don't support the troops" veterans.

My point in my post is that not all veterans are out to get every single penny possible. many of us, like myself, enlisted for something greater than themselves. So when I see statements like more benefits for the veterans, I hope everyone knows that we all aren't using veteran status as an entitlement. I for one am completely satisfied with what I receive.

Anyway, I will step off the soapbox.

Awesome post.

Calcountry
10-31-2008, 04:50 PM
It's pathetic to hope that our C-in-C knows how to properly return salutes?Who gives a crap about petty stuff like that, can he keep me in my home if I skip a couple of payments on my mortgage, that's all I care about.

Calcountry
10-31-2008, 04:54 PM
So, do you rank this right up there with fixing the economy and Iraq, or is this a half-step above those silly items?

Abortion?

deficits?

tax policy?

views on Supreme Court nominees?

Where exactly DOES this fit in the grand scheme of things?Funny, I bet these 2 items will be buried in his first omnibus stimulus package.

1) fairness doctrine
2) gun control.

WilliamTheIrish
10-31-2008, 05:04 PM
I don't think it's funny. I think it's moderately pathetic.

I hold it in the same regard as a POTUS candidate who can't use a keyboard. IOW, I don't give one good damn whether the POTUS can salute.

Calcountry
10-31-2008, 05:27 PM
I hold it in the same regard as a POTUS candidate who can't use a keyboard. IOW, I don't give one good damn whether the POTUS can salute.Thanks for profaning the Lords name. Oh yeah, it's o.k., you're a Democrat.

WilliamTheIrish
10-31-2008, 05:32 PM
Thanks for profaning the Lords name. Oh yeah, it's o.k., you're a Democrat.

Good = Gawd? It's okay, you're KCJohhnytrdr.

HonestChieffan
10-31-2008, 10:19 PM
Only repercussion I see is that he has stated he will gut reseach and development, reduce funding to levels below what Clinton did and we never have recovered from that to this day. The main one will be his weak defense will empower our enemies and reduce our allies trust for the US and our ability or will to maintain our role in NATO.

DaneMcCloud
10-31-2008, 11:57 PM
The main one will be his weak defense will empower our enemies and reduce our allies trust for the US and our ability or will to maintain our role in NATO.

I'm pretty much guessing here, Hank, but with all of your "wealth", you've failed to venture outside of the USA in the past 7 years.

Our "Allies" aren't exactly "fans" of the US right now.

Nor have they been since late 2002.

HonestChieffan
11-01-2008, 06:44 AM
I'm pretty much guessing here, Hank, but with all of your "wealth", you've failed to venture outside of the USA in the past 7 years.

Our "Allies" aren't exactly "fans" of the US right now.

Nor have they been since late 2002.

Quite wrong. And so is your statement.

Calcountry
11-01-2008, 12:40 PM
Good = Gawd? It's okay, you're KCJohhnytrdr.Thank you sir.

Saggysack
11-01-2008, 12:44 PM
Thanks for profaning the Lords name. Oh yeah, it's o.k., you're a Democrat.

I curse every absent father.

Bowser
11-01-2008, 12:45 PM
Thanks for profaning the Lords name. Oh yeah, it's o.k., you're a Democrat.

Yur smaart rebuhplickin.

Sully
11-01-2008, 12:46 PM
Funny, I bet these 2 items will be buried in his first omnibus stimulus package.

1) fairness doctrine
2) gun control.

What kind of bet would you be interested in?

Adept Havelock
11-01-2008, 01:14 PM
I curse every absent father.

ROFL