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BigMeatballDave
10-31-2008, 04:05 PM
I think I may hop on. I loathe McCain. I was thinking about 3rd party, Barr. But that is a waste. Sure, Obama may be a socialist, but so is Bush. That Wall St. bailout was a socialist move, no? I cannot believe I am still undecided this late in the game. I'm tilted in favor of BHO at this moment...

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:07 PM
No

dirk digler
10-31-2008, 04:08 PM
Sure come on over. I will make room

Mr. Kotter
10-31-2008, 04:13 PM
Sure there is room. I hope you don't mind the back of the bus though. That's where they are putting those of us who express any concern, doubt, or questions about him. It's pretty lonely back here, at the moment. I could use some company.



;)

HolmeZz
10-31-2008, 04:14 PM
All aboard.

Woodrow Call
10-31-2008, 04:14 PM
Always room for one more. We'd be happy to have ya.

dirk digler
10-31-2008, 04:14 PM
Sure there is room. I hope you don't mind the back of the bus though. That's where they are putting those of us who express any concern, doubt, or questions about him. It's pretty lonely back here, at the moment. I could use some company.



;)

Quit being a whiner

MagicHef
10-31-2008, 04:17 PM
I think I may hop on. I loathe McCain. I was thinking about 3rd party, Barr. But that is a waste. Sure, Obama may be a socialist, but so is Bush. That Wall St. bailout was a socialist move, no? I cannot believe I am still undecided this late in the game. I'm tilted in favor of BHO at this moment...

If you think Obama is the best choice, yes, vote for him. However, your comment about Barr troubles me. I don't see how voting for the best candidate in your eyes could ever be a waste.

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-31-2008, 04:18 PM
You can sit in front of Kotter. Let him carry your bags.

Ultra Peanut
10-31-2008, 04:20 PM
NOW how am I going to distinguish between BigChiefFan and BigChiefDave?

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:20 PM
If you think Obama is the best choice, yes, vote for him. However, your comment about Barr troubles me. I don't see how voting for the best candidate in your eyes could ever be a waste.

Yep

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:21 PM
You can sit in front of Kotter. Let him carry your bags.

Kotter is a sell out

BigMeatballDave
10-31-2008, 04:22 PM
If you think Obama is the best choice, yes, vote for him. However, your comment about Barr troubles me. I don't see how voting for the best candidate in your eyes could ever be a waste.Well, Barr is a conservative. I usually vote conservative/republican. McCain is just a lousy candidate. Obama actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about. This country needs a drastic foreign policy change. That, and his tax plan is why I may vote for BHO.

nychief
10-31-2008, 04:22 PM
Welcome aboard

warrior
10-31-2008, 04:26 PM
:thumb:Time for change.

BigMeatballDave
10-31-2008, 04:28 PM
NOW how am I going to distinguish between BigChiefFan and BigChiefDave?heh

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:31 PM
Well, Barr is a conservative. I usually vote conservative/republican. McCain is just a lousy candidate. Obama actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about. This country needs a drastic foreign policy change. That, and his tax plan is why I may vote for BHO.

You actually believe Obama whn it comes to taxes?

Sheesus dude look at illinois. Highest taxes, most debt, most violence. Does anyone even bother to look at his record considering everyone seems to think it's so important to know what panties Palin is wearing.

Rooster
10-31-2008, 04:33 PM
:thumb:Time for change.

How soon after BO is sworn in do we all get the bar code placed on the back of our necks?

MagicHef
10-31-2008, 04:33 PM
Well, Barr is a conservative. I usually vote conservative/republican. McCain is just a lousy candidate. Obama actually sounds like he knows what he is talking about. This country needs a drastic foreign policy change. That, and his tax plan is why I may vote for BHO.

Sounds good to me, I just don't like people being bullied into voting for one of the two major parties when they would prefer someone else as a president. If I had my way, everyone would vote for who they wanted to lead the country, regardless of what they thought their chances of winning were.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:36 PM
Sounds good to me, I just don't like people being bullied into voting for one of the two major parties when they would prefer someone else as a president. If I had my way, everyone would vote for who they wanted to lead the country, regardless of what they thought their chances of winning were.

Anyone is better than Obama

Pitt Gorilla
10-31-2008, 04:36 PM
You actually believe Obama whn it comes to taxes?

Sheesus dude look at illinois. Highest taxes, most debt, most violence. Does anyone even bother to look at his record considering everyone seems to think it's so important to know what panties Palin is wearing.Who keeps bringing up Palin?

jAZ
10-31-2008, 04:36 PM
"Come on up! You can have my seat, and I'll ride on jAZ's lap!"
--ObamaGirl

http://obamagirl.com/images/morfeoshow/obama_girl-4296/big/obamagirl220.png

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 04:38 PM
Who keeps bringing up Palin?

Yea right. LMAO

warrior
10-31-2008, 04:38 PM
How soon after BO is sworn in do we all get the bar code placed on the back of our necks?

You betcha :thumb:

Ultra Peanut
10-31-2008, 04:38 PM
I thought she was the Gravel Girl. :(

'Hamas' Jenkins
10-31-2008, 04:39 PM
You betcha :thumb:


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOYAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!

MagicHef
10-31-2008, 04:44 PM
I'm a little confused at how you can agree with this post:

If you think Obama is the best choice, yes, vote for him. However, your comment about Barr troubles me. I don't see how voting for the best candidate in your eyes could ever be a waste.

And then say this:

Anyone is better than Obama

Mr. Kotter
10-31-2008, 04:47 PM
You can sit in front of Kotter. Let him carry your bags.

Hot diggity! PBJ

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Ultra Peanut
10-31-2008, 04:48 PM
Anyone is better than ObamaEven Cynthia McKinney?

warrior
10-31-2008, 04:50 PM
I want my bar code on my arm right below the arrowhead tat. :thumb:

patteeu
10-31-2008, 04:51 PM
Is there any more room on Barack's bandwagon?

I don't know, but his plane is apparently short a few seats. Jeremiah Wright will be proud to hear that Obama made room for journalists from Ebony and Jet magazines (two niche magazines unabashedly catering to the black community) by giving the boot to mainstream journalists from the NYPost and the Dallas Morning News (two major US newspapers that happened to endorse John McCain). A third newspaper endorsing McCain, the Washington Times, was also ejected (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Off_the_plane.html). It looks to me like Barack is still walking the walk even if he no longer graces the pews of Wright's black liberation church.

http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/obama-wright-785911.jpeg

Ultra Peanut
10-31-2008, 04:53 PM
I want my bar code to include the numbers 1337.

Ultra Peanut
10-31-2008, 04:54 PM
(two niche magazines unabashedly catering to the black community)ALL I'M SAYIN IS, WHY AIN'T WE GOT A W.E.T.?

patteeu
10-31-2008, 04:57 PM
Kotter is a sell out

Don't worry. Mr. Kotter isn't going to vote for Obama. He doesn't want that to get out though so let's keep it between the two of us.

RJ
10-31-2008, 04:58 PM
You're in Ohio?? Hell yeah there's room. I'll slide over, welcome aboard.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 05:01 PM
I'm a little confused at how you can agree with this post:



And then say this:

I only agreed with the last part of your first statement. Maybe I should have highlighted that.

BIG_DADDY
10-31-2008, 05:01 PM
Don't worry. Mr. Kotter isn't going to vote for Obama. He doesn't want that to get out though so let's keep it between the two of us.

Got it. :thumb: My lips are sealed.

Robo-Chachi
10-31-2008, 05:35 PM
How soon after BO is sworn in do we all get the bar code placed on the back of our necks?

I'm still waiting for my National ID card from Bush.

Woodrow Call
10-31-2008, 05:45 PM
I don't know, but his plane is apparently short a few seats. Jeremiah Wright will be proud to hear that Obama made room for journalists from Ebony and Jet magazines (two niche magazines unabashedly catering to the black community) by giving the boot to mainstream journalists from the NYPost and the Dallas Morning News (two major US newspapers that happened to endorse John McCain). A third newspaper endorsing McCain, the Washington Times, was also ejected (http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Off_the_plane.html). It looks to me like Barack is still walking the walk even if he no longer graces the pews of Wright's black liberation church.

http://blog.reidreport.com/uploaded_images/obama-wright-785911.jpeg

You fell into the same trap McCain's campaign has. Here is an undecided guy, traditional republican and instead of discussing his foreign policy concerns or the economy you go straight to the Jeremiah Wright, Obama is scary playbook. One problem with that, no one cares.

Calcountry
10-31-2008, 06:07 PM
I think I may hop on. I loathe McCain. I was thinking about 3rd party, Barr. But that is a waste. Sure, Obama may be a socialist, but so is Bush. That Wall St. bailout was a socialist move, no? I cannot believe I am still undecided this late in the game. I'm tilted in favor of BHO at this moment...Do you really live in Ohio? Or were you registered to vote there at an abandoned house and are going to make the drive to vote there on Tuesday?

Saulbadguy
10-31-2008, 06:08 PM
If you don't want McCain, and live in Ohio, it would be best that you vote for Obama. JMO though.

plbrdude
10-31-2008, 06:11 PM
not for me. there simply is not a good choice for president this election.

patteeu
10-31-2008, 06:54 PM
You fell into the same trap McCain's campaign has. Here is an undecided guy, traditional republican and instead of discussing his foreign policy concerns or the economy you go straight to the Jeremiah Wright, Obama is scary playbook. One problem with that, no one cares.

Don't give me this line about being undecided. You don't post here often but I've seen enough to take your measure and I'm not buying the undecided, traditional Republican thing.

Besides, everyone ought to be offended by the decision the Obama campaign made here to invite journalists who cater to a narrow favored interest group on his plane at the expense of the representatives of two major mainstream newspapers just because they didn't endorse him. If his campaign is taking steps like this to punish media outlets that don't bow to him before the votes are even cast, what will they be doing in this regard after they've secured the victory (if that should happen).

BucEyedPea
10-31-2008, 07:01 PM
not for me. there simply is not a good choice for president this election.

That's right. There is little difference between the parties. They exist to keep us divided. The state and those connected to it serve themselves. That includes the banker bailout which even includes new IRS powers to create front groups like HR Block tax offices where they can entrap taxpayers. That'll come in handy when everyone's taxes go up to support more socialism.

Mecca
10-31-2008, 07:06 PM
You actually believe Obama whn it comes to taxes?

Sheesus dude look at illinois. Highest taxes, most debt, most violence. Does anyone even bother to look at his record considering everyone seems to think it's so important to know what panties Palin is wearing.

Let me get this right you were bemoaning him having gun control on his record due to the violence in his city and now you're talking about violence in his city?

Can you make up your made to make a rational argument that doesn't contradict itself? I know that's alot to ask.

Adept Havelock
10-31-2008, 07:07 PM
Don't give me this line about being undecided. You don't post here often but I've seen enough to take your measure and I'm not buying the undecided, traditional Republican thing.


I think your frustration with the election season has led you to misinterpret his post.

I don't believe Archie Bunker was referring to himself as undecided, but rather to the threads original poster.

I could be mistaken, but that's how I read it.

That said, I believe AB's point is correct, provided he was speaking about the OP.

kstater
10-31-2008, 07:08 PM
Don't give me this line about being undecided. You don't post here often but I've seen enough to take your measure and I'm not buying the undecided, traditional Republican thing.

Besides, everyone ought to be offended by the decision the Obama campaign made here to invite journalists who cater to a narrow favored interest group on his plane at the expense of the representatives of two major mainstream newspapers just because they didn't endorse him. If his campaign is taking steps like this to punish media outlets that don't bow to him before the votes are even cast, what will they be doing in this regard after they've secured the victory (if that should happen).

Would that rank up there with say only doing interviews with a select few who would ask tough questions like "what newspaper do you read?"

Woodrow Call
10-31-2008, 07:08 PM
Don't give me this line about being undecided. You don't post here often but I've seen enough to take your measure and I'm not buying the undecided, traditional Republican thing.



I was talking about the thread starter not myself. You're right though I'm not undecided or a traditional Republican.

Adept Havelock
10-31-2008, 07:10 PM
I was talking about the thread starter not myself. You're right though I'm not undecided or a traditional Republican.

Thanks. I thought that was the case.

Der Flöprer
10-31-2008, 07:11 PM
How soon after BO is sworn in do we all get the bar code placed on the back of our necks?

I'm still waiting for my National ID card from Bush.

http://funnypics.free.fr/explorer/public/gifs/slap.gif

patteeu
10-31-2008, 07:17 PM
I think your frustration with the election season has led you to misinterpret his post.

I don't believe Archie Bunker was referring to himself as undecided, but rather to the threads original poster.

I could be mistaken, but that's how I read it.

That said, I believe AB's point is correct, provided he was speaking about the OP.

How could you or Archie possibly know how much anyone, in general, or the thread starter, specifically, cares about Obama's treatment of the news media or about the fact that his actions in this episode are consistent with the teachings of a church that he's claimed to reject? :shrug:

If any undecided voter asks for advice or analysis of his/her options, I've been more than happy to offer my opinion on the subject. BigChiefDave didn't make any such request and I have no reason to think he cares about my opinion on this topic, foreign policy, or the economy. I suspect he's already aware of the stands of the two major candidates. My post was a riff off of the thread title based on news that I honestly consider pretty disturbing. Bumping the Dallas Morning News for Ebony? I thought it was a joke when I first heard it.

patteeu
10-31-2008, 07:21 PM
Would that rank up there with say only doing interviews with a select few who would ask tough questions like "what newspaper do you read?"

You talking about Joe Biden?

alanm
10-31-2008, 07:29 PM
Don't give me this line about being undecided. You don't post here often but I've seen enough to take your measure and I'm not buying the undecided, traditional Republican thing.

Besides, everyone ought to be offended by the decision the Obama campaign made here to invite journalists who cater to a narrow favored interest group on his plane at the expense of the representatives of two major mainstream newspapers just because they didn't endorse him. If his campaign is taking steps like this to punish media outlets that don't bow to him before the votes are even cast, what will they be doing in this regard after they've secured the victory (if that should happen).
It's called authoritarianism. It will only get worse.

kstater
10-31-2008, 07:45 PM
It's called authoritarianism. It will only get worse.

The irony of this is hilarious.

Thig Lyfe
10-31-2008, 08:06 PM
DO IT!

NewChief
10-31-2008, 08:56 PM
How could you or Archie possibly know how much anyone, in general, or the thread starter, specifically, cares about Obama's treatment of the news media or about the fact that his actions in this episode are consistent with the teachings of a church that he's claimed to reject? :shrug:

If any undecided voter asks for advice or analysis of his/her options, I've been more than happy to offer my opinion on the subject. BigChiefDave didn't make any such request and I have no reason to think he cares about my opinion on this topic, foreign policy, or the economy. I suspect he's already aware of the stands of the two major candidates. My post was a riff off of the thread title based on news that I honestly consider pretty disturbing. Bumping the Dallas Morning News for Ebony? I thought it was a joke when I first heard it.

I told my wife tonight that I didn't like it when Bush would play favorites with the press, and I don't like it that Obama is doing it.

Logical
10-31-2008, 08:59 PM
Sure there is room. I hope you don't mind the back of the bus though. That's where they are putting those of us who express any concern, doubt, or questions about him. It's pretty lonely back here, at the moment. I could use some company.



;)Jesus why are you whining so much?

Welcome aboard BigChiefDave

NewChief
10-31-2008, 09:03 PM
I also didn't like it when McCain did it (http://newsbusters.org/blogs/warner-todd-huston/2008/10/02/nyt-maureen-dowd-kicked-mccains-campaign-plane-hes-dismissive-1s) at the first of the month.

NewChief
10-31-2008, 09:05 PM
Oh. I didn't like it when McCain did it to Joe Klein (http://firedoglake.com/2008/10/21/mccain-kicks-joe-klein-off-the-plane/) either.

NewChief
10-31-2008, 09:09 PM
Of course, McCain learned from the best: patt's hero Dick Cheney likes to kick people off his plane, too. (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050509/alterman)

kstater
10-31-2008, 09:20 PM
Heh, Patteau will play it off like they were questioning Cheney and McCain, bordering on treason, so they were justified for kicking them off the plane.

BigMeatballDave
10-31-2008, 09:59 PM
Do you really live in Ohio? Or were you registered to vote there at an abandoned house and are going to make the drive to vote there on Tuesday?:D I actually live here. Moved here from KC in '97.

Smed1065
10-31-2008, 10:04 PM
"It is a fight to take our government back from the power brokers and special interests and return it to the people and the noble cause of freedom it was created to serve."

So Sen. John McCain of Arizona launched his against-the-odds presidential campaign on Sept. 27, 1999.

HC_Chief
10-31-2008, 10:08 PM
"It is a fight to take our government back from the power brokers and special interests and return it to the people and the noble cause of freedom it was created to serve."

So Sen. John McCain of Arizona launched his against-the-odds presidential campaign on Sept. 27, 1999.

They ALL say anything to get elected.

F*cking whores.

But I'm neither jaded nor cynical....

Smed1065
10-31-2008, 10:10 PM
They ALL say anything to get elected.

F*cking whores.

But I'm neither jaded nor cynical....

I agree on politics then in general. The system sucks but I doubt they change since they make the laws.

Screw'em all but they screw us more. :banghead:

Smed1065
10-31-2008, 10:11 PM
PS. I am cynical because change for America means they would be screwed. IMO.

HC_Chief
10-31-2008, 10:16 PM
I agree on politics then in general. The system sucks but I doubt they change since they make the laws.

Screw'em all but they screw us more. :banghead:

Vote 3rd party.

I did. :thumb:

Smed1065
10-31-2008, 10:19 PM
I did not this time but will in the future. I am an independent because it seems either or for the last 10 years. We are modern but outdated in the most important part to advance or even stay even. IMO.

HonestChieffan
10-31-2008, 11:23 PM
Sit between the baby killers and the unemployable right there in front of the socialst party member and the guy who is all for banning guns and his friend/partner who heads up the group against human breathing for its impact on global warming.

Mr. Kotter
10-31-2008, 11:55 PM
Sit between the baby killers and the unemployable right there in front of the socialst party member and the guy who is all for banning guns and his friend/partner who heads up the group against human breathing for its impact on global warming.

Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:

DaFace
11-01-2008, 12:00 AM
Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:

I actually decided based on the "profile of a dem" or whatever thread the other day that I would add a few people to FfVb for the first time ever - just for the next week or so. That makes posts like this seem really odd. :D

Mr. Kotter
11-01-2008, 12:03 AM
.... FfVb for the first time ever - just for the next week or so. That makes posts like this seem really odd. :D

FfVb??? :spock:

Why odd? :shrug:

:hmmm:

DaFace
11-01-2008, 12:04 AM
FfVb??? :spock:

Why odd? :shrug:

:hmmm:

http://www.tycamtech.com/extensions/firefox/ffvb/

Basically, it's an uber-iggy for vBulletin. I assume you're replying to something that HCF said, but I can't see it so it just looks like you're ranting to yourself.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-01-2008, 12:06 AM
Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:

BAH GAWD KING, Kotter's turned face!!

Mr. Kotter
11-01-2008, 12:07 AM
http://www.tycamtech.com/extensions/firefox/ffvb/

Basically, it's an uber-iggy for vBulletin. I assume you're replying to something that HCF said, but I can't see it so it just looks like you're ranting to yourself.

Heh....so you have HonestChieffan on iggy I take it? LMAO

I see; I understand. That would be amusing.....FWIW, this is what the dickweed said, that prompted my rant:


Sit between the baby killers and the unemployable right there in front of the socialst party member and the guy who is all for banning guns and his friend/partner who heads up the group against human breathing for its impact on global warming.

DaFace
11-01-2008, 12:10 AM
Heh....so you have HonestChieffan on iggy I take it? LMAO

I see; I understand. That would be amusing.....FWIW, this is what the dickweed said, that prompted my rant:

Gotcha. I'm not a big fan of iggy as a general rule, but I only have a few minutes here and there to check in these days, and there are a few users who have gone to nonstop irrational (and largely unsubstantiated) attack mode lately. Getting rid of that has made DC a much more enjoyable place.

Guru
11-01-2008, 12:14 AM
not for me. there simply is not a good choice for president this election.

Hell, there hasn't been a good choice since I became of voting age.

DaneMcCloud
11-01-2008, 12:54 AM
Hell, there hasn't been a good choice since I became of voting age.

The only vote is the vote for the Supreme Court.

That's pretty much how it's always been for me.

J Diddy
11-01-2008, 12:57 AM
Gotcha. I'm not a big fan of iggy as a general rule, but I only have a few minutes here and there to check in these days, and there are a few users who have gone to nonstop irrational (and largely unsubstantiated) attack mode lately. Getting rid of that has made DC a much more enjoyable place.

testing testing

Guru
11-01-2008, 01:01 AM
http://www.tycamtech.com/extensions/firefox/ffvb/

Basically, it's an uber-iggy for vBulletin. I assume you're replying to something that HCF said, but I can't see it so it just looks like you're ranting to yourself.

IT is a great tool but everytime I use it, I end up turning it off because I have to see what all the fuss is about.

DaFace
11-01-2008, 01:02 AM
testing testing

What was that? Did someone say something? :D

Ari Chi3fs
11-01-2008, 01:12 AM
Obama is set up to fail massively. I have been reading that they may let Obama win... and on January 21st or 22nd do a massive Biological attack. In fact, I think it may need its own thread.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-01-2008, 01:19 AM
Obama is set up to fail massively. I have been reading that they may let Obama win... and on January 21st or 22nd do a massive Biological attack. In fact, I think it may need its own thread.

JFC.

Pablo
11-01-2008, 01:25 AM
Sure thing, be sure and bring your own rope to tie your camel on.

There isn't much literature on board.

Hope you're cool with the Koran or the Communist Manifesto. It ain't SI or Guns N' Ammo, but they're nice to pass the time.

DaneMcCloud
11-01-2008, 01:28 AM
Obama is set up to fail massively. I have been reading that they may let Obama win... and on January 21st or 22nd do a massive Biological attack. In fact, I think it may need its own thread.

They?

They "who"?

Is this a joke?

Because if not, I never realized you were such a hillbilly retard.

Logical
11-01-2008, 03:00 AM
Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:Holy heck, much respect Rob, I really admire you for this post.

penchief
11-01-2008, 07:44 AM
Sure there is room. I hope you don't mind the back of the bus though. That's where they are putting those of us who express any concern, doubt, or questions about him. It's pretty lonely back here, at the moment. I could use some company.



;)

I've expressed concerns and haven't been made to feel that way at all.

penchief
11-01-2008, 07:59 AM
PS. I am cynical because change for America means they would be screwed. IMO.

Change is an unknown. You can't make definitive claims about the unknown. What we do know is that we can't get screwed any worse than we have under republican status quo rule. We also know that sticking with the republican status quo is only going to continue perpetuating the policies that have resulted in that major assraping.

So when you know that one side has already bent you over and says they are going to keep screwing you, the last thing you want to do is make it easy for them by dropping your drawers and bending over for them. Change is the only alternative we have.

OnTheWarpath58
11-01-2008, 08:49 AM
Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:

Great post, Rob.

Rep.

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 09:29 AM
Kotter,

Much respect for your post. Nice take.

patteeu
11-01-2008, 09:48 AM
Of course, McCain learned from the best: patt's hero Dick Cheney likes to kick people off his plane, too. (http://www.thenation.com/doc/20050509/alterman)

No one has been more unfairly treated by the media than Dick Cheney. He ought to take a few of the worst offenders on a friendly hunting trip.

As for the McCain incidents, I don't condone them (well maybe a little bit in the Maureen Dowd case) but at least he was just targeting individuals rather than entire media outlets. The New York Times and the Politico have had no problem gaining access to McCain or to seats on his plane. If Obama were to kick Ann Coulter off his plane, it wouldn't offend me (even though I'm a big Coulter fan).

patteeu
11-01-2008, 09:56 AM
Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:

Good job, Mr. Kotter. I sense that you have the libs believing you might just be the centrist democrat you've always claimed to be. Superb marketing strategy. They'll never figure out where your vote really went. If Obama wins, you'll be in a position to criticize him from the position of the guy who "voted for Obama" hehe, and if McCain wins you can praise him even though you "didn't vote for him" lol. Outstanding positioning. My hat's off to you. :thumb:

dirk digler
11-01-2008, 09:57 AM
Ya know, HonestChieffan....I've stayed off your ass until now, because I understand your type....but this shit is over the top, seriously dude...get a life.

First, pro-choice isn't an easy moral position, but it sure as hell doesn't make one a "baby killer."

Second, yes....many democrats are impoverished, unemployed, or otherwise "struggling"...but it's clear from this election, there are plenty of uneducated, trailer-park, working class under-achievers supporting the GOP in this election.

Third, "socialism?"....talk to W....talk to the Republicans who enabled FreddyMac and FannieMae to rob hard-working taxpayers blind, by enabling greedy ass bankers and real estate types to grant loans to folks who never deserved them in the first place. The same bastards who signed onto the bailout of Wall Street.

Fourth....gun control?....well, since it's now, by virtue of last summer SC decision, an individual right it seems....please, tell me why in the hell conservatives would oppose REASONABLE attempts to keep automatic weapons and the like out of the hands of thugs and gang-bangers in the inner-cities of this country, that everyone can agree....need to be put in the clink? And don't waste your time with, the "this is the only the beginning..."....the 'slippery slope' bullshit argument that the NRA is so fond of trotting out.

Fifth, global warming may not be entirely the fault of mankind....but shouldn't we do what we can to try and minimize, or reverse, the trend...if we put a man on the moon in ten years, why can't we figure a way to make the world more liveable for our grandchildren??? Seriously? WTF is wrong with that? FWIW, I've never, ever heard Obama bash "breathing?" You got a link, hose-head?

:shake:

Damn Rob that was a straight up ass kicking. LMAO

I am pretty sure that made honestchief run crying and go back to sucking his Binky.

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 11:35 AM
No one has been more unfairly treated by the media than Dick Cheney.

Wow. That's pure, utter, horseshit.