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2bikemike
11-01-2008, 02:51 AM
WASHINGTON - Barack Obama's aunt, a Kenyan woman who has been quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

Zeituni Onyango, 56, referred to as "Aunti Zeituni" in Obama's memoir, was instructed to leave the United States by a U.S. immigration judge who denied her asylum request, a person familiar with the matter told the AP late Friday. This person spoke on condition of anonymity because no one was authorized to discuss Onyango's case.

Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

Onyango's refusal to leave the country would represent an administrative, non-criminal violation of U.S. immigration law, meaning such cases are handled outside the criminal court system. Estimates vary, but many experts believe there are more than 10 million such immigrants in the United States.

The AP could not reach Onyango immediately for comment. No one answered the telephone number listed in her name late Friday. It was unclear why her request for asylum was rejected in 2004.

Onyango is not a relative whom Obama has discussed in campaign appearances and, unlike Obama's father and grandmother, is not someone who has been part of the public discussion about his personal life.

A spokeswoman for U.S. Immigrations and Customs Enforcement, Kelly Nantel, said the government does not comment on an individual's citizenship status or immigration case.

Directive may reflect political sensitivity
Onyango's case — coming to light just days before the presidential election — led to an unusual nationwide directive within Immigrations and Customs Enforcement requiring any deportations prior to Tuesday's election to be approved at least at the level of ICE regional directors, the U.S. law enforcement official told the AP.

The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

Kenya is in eastern Africa between Somalia and Tanzania. The country has been fractured in violence in recent years, including a period of two months of bloodshed after December 2007 that killed 1,500 people.

The disclosure about Onyango came just one day after Obama's presidential campaign confirmed to the Times of London that Onyango, who has lived quietly in public housing in South Boston for five years, was Obama's half aunt on his father's side.

It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.




Thought this was interesting. Not saying its right wrong or indifferent just interesting.

ChiTown
11-01-2008, 08:31 AM
GAME CHANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 08:34 AM
LMAO. One-sided patriotism is hilarious.

banyon
11-01-2008, 08:37 AM
Hey, you and SHTSPRAYER must be getting the same email updates.

Ultra Peanut
11-01-2008, 08:47 AM
GAME CHANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!When ChiTown is being sarcastic towards McCainiacs, you know shit just got real.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 08:55 AM
Peabrain, Banyon and and BCF's response is that of a five year old putting his hands over his ears, stomping his feet and yelling 'NAH NAH NAH I CANT HEAR YOU!' over and over again.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 08:58 AM
WASHINGTON - .

2bike--

I can understand why the moonbats respond to my posts the way that they do, but when they respond in like fashion to a guy like you, who is a reasonable, rational non-bombthrower, well...

It's a reflection on them, not us.

I still don't know which is it-- maybe it's both--- are the moonbats so enamored with the media's version of this lowlife from Chicago that any and all criticism of him is blocked off by their cognitive dissonance, or--

They don't care that he is a dirtbag hypocrite. They want him in power any way, because they themselves are dirtbag hypocrites.

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 09:03 AM
2bike--

I can understand why the moonbats respond to my posts the way that they do, but when they respond in like fashion to a guy like you, who is a reasonable, rational non-bombthrower, well...

It's a reflection on them, not us.

I still don't know which is it-- maybe it's both--- are the moonbats so enamored with the media's version of this lowlife from Chicago that any and all criticism of him is blocked off by their cognitive dissonance, or--

They don't care that he is a dirtbag hypocrite. They want him in power any way, because they themselves are dirtbag hypocrites.
LMAO.Throwing darts now.

KCJohnny
11-01-2008, 09:06 AM
GAME CHANGER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111111111111!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/customavatars/avatar45_3.gif (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/member.php?u=45)

Do we need to know anything more about ChiTown?

banyon
11-01-2008, 09:06 AM
Peabrain, Banyon and and BCF's response is that of a five year old putting his hands over his ears, stomping his feet and yelling 'NAH NAH NAH I CANT HEAR YOU!' over and over again.

I already replied to this in the thread you posted this stupid story in. Then you ran away. In fact, you've essentially borrowed my reply as to how juvenile your answer was. Should I post it again?

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 09:09 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/customavatars/avatar45_3.gif (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/member.php?u=45)

Do we need to know anything more about ChiTown?
Yes apparently he's kiilling innocent sperm cells.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 09:11 AM
Hey, you and SHTSPRAYER must be getting the same email updates.


Actually it's on the front page:

http://www.yahoo.com

It's been in newspapers all week, too. But by all means, immediately dismiss it as a cranky email, because after all, that's what a thoughtful attorney would do.

:rolleyes:

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 09:12 AM
I already replied to this in the thread you posted this stupid story in. Then you ran away. In fact, you've essentially borrowed my reply as to how juvenile your answer was. Should I post it again?


I'm gonna start calling you the washing machine: All you do is spin.

LMAO

banyon
11-01-2008, 09:13 AM
I'm gonna start calling you the washing machine: All you do is spin.

LMAO

What did I spin? Do you even know what that means?

talastan
11-01-2008, 09:23 AM
Actually it's on the front page:

http://www.yahoo.com

It's been in newspapers all week, too. But by all means, immediately dismiss it as a cranky email, because after all, that's what a thoughtful attorney would do.

:rolleyes:

Don't forget that ultra-right wing news source USAToday!!

http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/default.htm

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 09:26 AM
What did I spin? Do you even know what that means?


You're right, what the DC Forum needs is yet another ten page thread on Sam Wurzelburger's tax records.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

:rolleyes:

Adept Havelock
11-01-2008, 09:28 AM
Yes apparently he's kiilling innocent sperm cells.

:cuss:

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***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 09:36 AM
I already replied to this in the thread you posted this stupid story in. Then you ran away. In fact, you've essentially borrowed my reply as to how juvenile your answer was. Should I post it again?


This is the game you always play. "Well you never responded to the other post I made in the other thread blah blah blah"

By all means, post it again. I don't have time for thread hopscotch.

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 09:38 AM
:cuss:

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I've never seen that before. Unusual, but funny and most definitely appropriate.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 09:38 AM
What did I spin? Do you even know what that means?


You immediately dismissed the post as a cranky email. You attacked the integrity of the writer, and the poster who posted it, instead of responding to the content.

Maybe you're right, that's not spin. That's just being an *sshole.

Joe Wurzelburger's tax records, now THAT'S important to the American people!

banyon
11-01-2008, 09:39 AM
You're right, what the DC Forum needs is yet another ten page thread on Sam Wurzelburger's tax records.

You should be ashamed of yourself.

:rolleyes:

I will take this as affirmation you have no clue what you are talking about since you couldn't identify what I had "spun".

Just keep running your mouth and hope no one notices the vapidity of your "arguments".

banyon
11-01-2008, 09:43 AM
You immediately dismissed the post as a cranky email. You attacked the integrity of the writer, and the poster who posted it, instead of responding to the content.

Maybe you're right, that's not spin. That's just being an *sshole.

Joe Wurzelburger's tax records, now THAT'S important to the American people!

Good lord, do you read anything but your own posts?

First, commenting that you guys were posting the same post is not insulting unless you view associations with yourself as an insult. Now that I think of it, though, perhaps this would be a prudent step.

I never talked about Joe the Plumber's tax records. Much like many of your posts, that would be irrelevant to the issues before the American electorate.

I talked about your presidential candidate, JOHN MCCAIN'S tax records, which remain undisclosed.

BigChiefFan
11-01-2008, 09:52 AM
Shitstain,
Banyon, brings it, on almost every post. He typically uses FACTS to support his argument and he doesn't base his arguments based on his EMOTIONS, like YOU DO. It's pretty obvious, to most, I would assume, that you reveal in stirring shit, rather than making cognitive, sound rebuttals, you take 'let's sensationalize" every little crumb of information in the hopes that something sticks. That isn't sound logic, that's clouded judgment with a touch of hatred thrown in on your part. You've flung so much hateful shit around these parts, you're eyeballs deep in a septic tank and then you wonder why some retort in kind.

Teflon.

noa
11-01-2008, 10:18 AM
I still don't know which is it-- maybe it's both--- are the moonbats so enamored with the media's version of this lowlife from Chicago that any and all criticism of him is blocked off by their cognitive dissonance, or--

They don't care that he is a dirtbag hypocrite. They want him in power any way, because they themselves are dirtbag hypocrites.

Or not.
But you enjoy the simplistic version.
His supporters are either delusional or dirtbags. That's the only way you can cope with people supporting Obama. Calling them names or calling them crazy. Sorry guy, the world ain't that black and white.

Reaper16
11-01-2008, 10:30 AM
Oooooh, illegal immigration. Scary.

Big fucking deal.

Adept Havelock
11-01-2008, 10:41 AM
You immediately dismissed the post as a cranky email. You attacked the integrity of the writer, and the poster who posted it, instead of responding to the content.



Next thing you know, shts prayer will be claiming you violated their first amendment rights. :p

whatsmynameagain
11-01-2008, 10:44 AM
2bike--

I can understand why the moonbats respond to my posts the way that they do, but when they respond in like fashion to a guy like you, who is a reasonable, rational non-bombthrower, well...

It's a reflection on them, not us.

I still don't know which is it-- maybe it's both--- are the moonbats so enamored with the media's version of this lowlife from Chicago that any and all criticism of him is blocked off by their cognitive dissonance, or--

They don't care that he is a dirtbag hypocrite. They want him in power any way, because they themselves are dirtbag hypocrites.

Hypocrites eh? Mccain is on CNN right now and said "Im not going to spend your 750 billion dollars bailing out wall street."

Did he rescind his vote on the bailout? Im really curious and since you get all these top secret emails with all this super important information I figured you might be able to answer the call of "hypocrite" from your maverick.

DID HE RESCIND HIS VOTE ON THE BAILOUT?

PLEASE TELL ME, INSIGHTFUL ONE.

patteeu
11-01-2008, 10:47 AM
So banyon, leaving aside Obama's relationship here, what's your opinion about this lady's situation?

banyon
11-01-2008, 10:48 AM
So banyon, leaving aside Obama's relationship here, what's your opinion about this lady's situation?

If she is illegal, then she should be deported.

If the campaign contributions were made in violation of campaign finance rules, then the funds should be returned, though as I've said I think an audit of both campaigns' finances would probably reveal a tonj of things worse than this.

Mr. Laz
11-01-2008, 10:49 AM
at risk of being battered senseless.... :)


Is there any validity to this or is it just more dirty politics?

patteeu
11-01-2008, 10:52 AM
Hypocrites eh? Mccain is on CNN right now and said "Im not going to spend your 750 billion dollars bailing out wall street."

Did he rescind his vote on the bailout? Im really curious and since you get all these top secret emails with all this super important information I figured you might be able to answer the call of "hypocrite" from your maverick.

DID HE RESCIND HIS VOTE ON THE BAILOUT?

PLEASE TELL ME, INSIGHTFUL ONE.

Your inability to understand politico talk explains some of your weird takes. Let me help you out with this. The bailout bill did not specify exactly how the $700+ billion were to be spent. McCain has proposed that a large fraction of that money, something like $300 billion, go to home owners in danger of defaulting on their home mortgages. I assume that you can see that home owners are a different class of people than that which is typically thought of as "wall street".

Insightful enough?

patteeu
11-01-2008, 10:53 AM
If she is illegal, then she should be deported.

If the campaign contributions were made in violation of campaign finance rules, then the funds should be returned, though as I've said I think an audit of both campaigns' finances would probably reveal a tonj of things worse than this.

Agreed.

HolmeZz
11-01-2008, 10:53 AM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/customavatars/avatar45_3.gif (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/member.php?u=45)

Do we need to know anything more about ChiTown?

Please continue exiling people from the Republican tent. It's working out so well for you guys.

patteeu
11-01-2008, 10:55 AM
at risk of being battered senseless.... :)


Is there any validity to this or is it just more dirty politics?

It appears to be pretty solid. It's just a matter of how much it matters to you. The status of a family member that Obama probably barely knows is of far less importance to me than his close associations with radicals throughout his life. If you weren't bothered by those I don't know why you'd turn on him over this.

Smed1065
11-01-2008, 10:55 AM
WOW 1 of 1000 might stick. Keep trying, you might get another after the election.

dirk digler
11-01-2008, 10:56 AM
If she is illegal, then she should be deported.

If the campaign contributions were made in violation of campaign finance rules, then the funds should be returned, though as I've said I think an audit of both campaigns' finances would probably reveal a tonj of things worse than this.

I agree.

Also this lady isn't his aunt it is his half-aunt and Politico just reported they are returning the campaign money.

Sully
11-01-2008, 11:29 AM
I don't have time for thread hopscotch.

ROFL

Smed1065
11-01-2008, 11:36 AM
I'm gonna start calling you the washing machine: All you do is spin.

LMAO

I mean you think for yourself/socialist.

I am busy checking my e-mails loser.

WilliamTheIrish
11-01-2008, 11:48 AM
2bike--



It's a reflection on them, not <strike>us</strike> me....

Sht, I've met Mike. Broke bread with him and his wife in San Diego before I ran a marathon out there.

You're probably a hella guy outside of the personna you put forth here. But I have to say you should change your post, as Mike is nowhere near a reflection of anything you post.

2bikemike
11-01-2008, 04:10 PM
First of all I found this on MSNBC this morning while I was bored at work. I remembered the shit storm that was created from the earlier thread and didnt recall seeing on that thread that she was an illegal facing deportation. I don't believe I made any comments on that thread at all. Especially none denouncing Obama. I believe most of my posts against Obama are just reasons why I choose not to vote for him. I do not post a bunch of crap hoping something will stick to tarnish or discredit Obama. I may argue from my point of view on why or what I dislike about his policies.

The reason I put this article from MSNBC on the forum was because I found it interesting and wanted to see what reactions would transpire. If you will read the very end of the Post I wrote "Thought this was interesting. Not saying its right wrong or indifferent just interesting"

Here are a few things I found interesting thought would generate discussion

1. quietly living in public housing in Boston, is in the United States illegally after an immigration judge rejected her request for asylum four years ago, The Associated Press has learned.

2. Information about the deportation case was disclosed and confirmed by two separate sources, one of them a federal law enforcement official. The information they made available is known to officials in the federal government, but the AP could not establish whether anyone at a political level in the Bush administration or in the McCain campaign had been involved in its release.

3. The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

4. It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 04:23 PM
3. The unusual directive suggests that the Bush administration is sensitive to the political implications of Onyango's case coming to light so close to the election.

If the Bush Administration is aware of this woman's status, then surely the skinny lowlife from Chicago is also aware of her status.

You'd think he'd buy her a bag of groceries or something, the way he spews his spreading the wealth shitola around all the time.



It was not immediately clear how Onyango might have qualified for public housing with a standing deportation order.

Happens all the time, doesn't it?

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 04:24 PM
Sht, I've met Mike. Broke bread with him and his wife in San Diego before I ran a marathon out there.

You're probably a hella guy outside of the personna you put forth here. But I have to say you should change your post, as Mike is nowhere near a reflection of anything you post.


I hear ya, but you should tell Banyon that. He's the one who lumped us together.

banyon
11-01-2008, 04:44 PM
I hear ya, but you should tell Banyon that. He's the one who lumped us together.

You're right. I'm sorry about that 2bikemike, you're not a ridicu-spammer.

WilliamTheIrish
11-01-2008, 04:59 PM
I hear ya, but you should tell Banyon that. He's the one who lumped us together.

You're right.

banyon, do I have to stop this car? Cause if I do, you are going to regret that decision, mister.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 05:03 PM
You're right. I'm sorry about that 2bikemike, you're not a ridicu-spammer.

You're right.

banyon, do I have to stop this car? Cause if I do, you are going to regret that decision, mister.

:clap:

Halfcan
11-01-2008, 05:05 PM
more Mcain mudslinging

Ultra Peanut
11-01-2008, 05:08 PM
You'd think he'd buy her a bag of groceries or something, the way he spews his spreading the wealth shitola around all the time.Is it that he's not helping his poor old half-aunt, or that he's helping his conniving half-aunt cheat the system? Which one is it?

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 05:09 PM
Is it that he's not helping his poor old half-aunt, or that he's helping his conniving half-aunt cheat the system? Which one is it?


Maybe you and Direkshun could send her a few bucks.

Ultra Peanut
11-01-2008, 05:10 PM
Maybe you and Direkshun could send her a few bucks.Maybe you could send her out to live in the sticks for the summer.

***SPRAYER
11-01-2008, 05:16 PM
Maybe you could send her out to live in the sticks for the summer.

There is something seriously wrong with you.

Howlin Wolf
11-01-2008, 08:25 PM
I wonder what part of 'illegal' people don't understand.

Mr Luzcious
11-01-2008, 09:13 PM
I wonder what part of 'illegal' people don't understand.

Well there's that little i, and an extra l. I'm not sure what those are all about.

Dick Bull
11-01-2008, 09:25 PM
I wonder what part of 'illegal' people don't understand.


I wonder what part of noncriminal don't you understand.

Ultra Peanut
11-01-2008, 09:28 PM
There is something seriously wrong with you.Not particularly.

T-post Tom
11-01-2008, 09:50 PM
yep, gamechanger...

"Onyango attended Obama's U.S. Senate swearing-in ceremony in 2005, and the senator last heard from her about two years ago, according to the campaign."

Reports filed with the Federal Election Commission show Onyango gave Obama's campaign a total of $265, including several contributions of $5 and $25. The latest recorded contribution, of $5, was on Sept. 19. Only U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents, known as green cardholders, can legally contribute to federal presidential campaigns.

"Given the information that has been brought to our attention, the contributions are being refunded," said Ben LaBolt, an Obama campaign spokesman. "Senator Obama has no knowledge of her status but obviously believes that any and all appropriate laws be followed."

Howlin Wolf
11-01-2008, 10:18 PM
wow that put me in the red fast

patteeu
11-02-2008, 07:10 AM
Is it that he's not helping his poor old half-aunt, or that he's helping his conniving half-aunt cheat the system? Which one is it?

Which one is worse?

patteeu
11-02-2008, 07:11 AM
I wonder what part of noncriminal don't you understand.

:spock: Huh?

Ultra Peanut
11-02-2008, 07:29 AM
Which one is worse?If he'd known she was having trouble rectifying her immigration status, don't you think he would have maybe offered to send one of his lawyer buddies to help her out a bit?

If she hasn't spoken to him in two years, I don't exactly see what he's supposed to do about the situation.

patteeu
11-02-2008, 07:32 AM
If he'd known she was having trouble rectifying her immigration status, don't you think he would have maybe offered to send one of his lawyer buddies to help her out a bit?

If she hasn't spoken to him in two years, I don't exactly see what he's supposed to do about the situation.

Maybe he thought he could be more helpful by using his clout to get her into public housing despite her immigration status.

KCJohnny
11-02-2008, 07:37 AM
If he'd known she was having trouble rectifying her immigration status, don't you think he would have maybe offered to send one of his lawyer buddies to help her out a bit?

If she hasn't spoken to him in two years, I don't exactly see what he's supposed to do about the situation.

He didn't mind receiving her $260 in donations to his campaign. Charlatan.

nychief
11-02-2008, 07:40 AM
He didn't mind receiving her $260 in donations to his campaign. Charlatan.



www.fivethirtyeight.com

***SPRAYER
11-02-2008, 08:18 AM
I know 2BikeMike. I've met 2BikeMike.

SHTSPRAYER...

You are no 2BikeMike.

Ultra Peanut
11-02-2008, 08:21 AM
He didn't mind receiving her $260 in donations to his campaign. Charlatan.OH MAN, $260! I'm sure he personally watched as she entered her credit card information and gave her a high five when she finished! What a scumbag!

Niblet2008
11-02-2008, 08:42 AM
Typical. Get these illegals OUT OF HERE!

***SPRAYER
11-02-2008, 09:11 AM
Typical. Get these illegals OUT OF HERE!


B.O. and McCain want to make them citizens, no questions asked. And you and I get to pay for it!

:)

HonestChieffan
11-02-2008, 09:22 AM
imagine how many more relatives will get in undocumented if he is elected

banyon
11-02-2008, 09:26 AM
imagine how many more relatives will get in undocumented if he is elected

Yeah, McCain didn't sponsor multiple amnesty bills in Congress or anything.

***SPRAYER
11-02-2008, 09:29 AM
imagine how many more relatives will get in undocumented if he is elected


Or McAmnesty for that matter.

kstater
11-02-2008, 09:29 AM
imagine how many more relatives will get in undocumented if he is elected

He's going to let Odinga in to come rape your family.

Portlantis
11-02-2008, 09:30 AM
He didn't mind receiving her $260 in donations to his campaign. Charlatan.

And he didn't mind giving her money back when he found out it was illegal.

***SPRAYER
11-02-2008, 09:31 AM
He's going to let Odinga in to come rape your family.

Eventually, yes.

triple
11-02-2008, 09:32 AM
And he didn't mind giving her money back when he found out it was illegal.

if only he had given back all the illegal contributions

or kept his word to take matching funds if his opponent did

HonestChieffan
11-02-2008, 09:47 AM
They will have special cruises for the "family of Obama" to come to america

Dick Bull
11-02-2008, 12:01 PM
Maybe he thought he could be more helpful by using his clout to get her into public housing despite her immigration status.


Wow, how did we know it was going to go here that fast?

2bikemike
11-02-2008, 12:19 PM
I know 2BikeMike. I've met 2BikeMike.

SHTSPRAYER...

You are no 2BikeMike.

Huh?

memyselfI
11-02-2008, 02:40 PM
Laws are for the non-believers. :D

triple
11-02-2008, 02:43 PM
"I am my brother's keeper"

But not my aunt.

BigChiefFan
11-02-2008, 02:48 PM
Yes, let's judge others by their distant family members.

patteeu
11-02-2008, 05:23 PM
And he didn't mind giving her money back when he found out it was illegal.

You must mean "when everyone else found out it was illegal".

kcfanintitanhell
11-02-2008, 05:29 PM
I think you had better get back to the Lewinsky blowjob, get ahold of some firmer straws to grasp, and come back in, say, four years.

2bikemike
11-02-2008, 05:41 PM
"I am my brother's keeper"

But not my aunt.

Hell I ain't even my brothers keep anymore. Been there done that. It was just like the welfare system. I enabled him to sit on his ass and do nothing. Finally had to cut him off.

***SPRAYER
11-02-2008, 05:45 PM
"I am my brother's keeper"

But not my aunt.


When did selfishness become a virtue?

***SPRAYER
11-02-2008, 05:45 PM
Hell I ain't even my brothers keep anymore. Been there done that. It was just like the welfare system. I enabled him to sit on his ass and do nothing. Finally had to cut him off.


When is the Democrat party going to to the same.

triple
11-02-2008, 05:50 PM
Hell I ain't even my brothers keep anymore. Been there done that. It was just like the welfare system. I enabled him to sit on his ass and do nothing. Finally had to cut him off.

You should have gave him some tough love and left him in that grass hut in Kenya