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HolmeZz
11-03-2008, 11:50 PM
It's on, bitches.

I'm staying up so I get to the polls once they open at 6 AM. :)

Mecca
11-03-2008, 11:51 PM
I'm going early aswell since my schedule means I should vote in the morning before sleeping instead of going when I wake up in the afternoon.

Ultra Peanut
11-04-2008, 12:47 AM
It's on, bitches.

I'm staying up so I get to the polls once they open at 6 AM. :)hi5, me too.

Holy shit, I can't believe today's the day.

Cannibal
11-04-2008, 12:50 AM
I took Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday off this week. Gonna party it up tonight and watch the returns.

L.A. Chieffan
11-04-2008, 12:52 AM
Shots on me.

Reaper16
11-04-2008, 12:59 AM
I'll be at my polling station @ 6:00 am, too. Though that's no feat, as my polling station is only, like, 10 feet from my door.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 01:05 AM
I'll be at my polling station @ 6:00 am, too. Though that's no feat, as my polling station is only, like, 10 feet from my door.

About a 3 minute walk for me. It'll be fun to see how many others are there.

Buck
11-04-2008, 01:08 AM
You think by this time tomorrow night there will be a clear-cut winner?

Ultra Peanut
11-04-2008, 01:10 AM
Yes.

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HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 01:18 AM
You think by this time tomorrow night there will be a clear-cut winner?

By 2 AM EST? I'd friggin' hope so.

Buck
11-04-2008, 01:19 AM
By 2 AM EST? I'd friggin' hope so.

In 2000 As I fell asleep about this time, they had announced Al Gore the President-Elect....lets not forget that.

Woodrow Call
11-04-2008, 01:20 AM
Can't believe it's finally here. Despite the polls I'm nervous as hell.

Buck
11-04-2008, 01:22 AM
Can't believe it's finally here. Despite the polls I'm nervous as hell.

I think it might be a lot closer than the polls have said, but I doubt that the Republicans will rise once again.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 01:23 AM
In 2000 As I fell asleep about this time, they had announced Al Gore the President-Elect....lets not forget that.

That was a race ultimately decided by 500 votes.

I don't think that's what we're looking at here.

Buck
11-04-2008, 01:25 AM
That was a race ultimately decided by 500 votes.

I don't think that's what we're looking at here.

500 Votes in one state, I believe.

Gore won the popular vote by about 500,000 I believe.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 01:27 AM
500 Votes in one state, I believe.

Yes, and that's why it took so long. Right now I don't anticipate this race coming down to a close race in one state.

Buck
11-04-2008, 01:28 AM
Yes, and that's why it took so long. Right now I don't anticipate this race coming down to a close race in one state.

I know, im just spewing shit out of my mouth right now.

Pitt Gorilla
11-04-2008, 01:30 AM
Obama wins Dixville Notch (15-6) and Hart's Location (17-10)!

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27528804/

Thig Lyfe
11-04-2008, 01:56 AM
Already voted... so now it's just like Christmas!

And only a 1.9% chance of coal!

Fruit Ninja
11-04-2008, 03:24 AM
SO what news station will everyone be watching? i will probably go with CNBC and CNN back and forth. THen when Obama wins going directly to Fox to see them completely flip out.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 03:29 AM
T minus one and a half hours.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 04:53 AM
About to head out.

Cross your fingers I don't get mugged walking the streets of New Haven in the black of night!

Taco John
11-04-2008, 05:25 AM
It's on, bitches.

I'm staying up so I get to the polls once they open at 6 AM. :)



You're hard core.

I'm staying up because my booth prints need to be finalized and overnighted to the printers by Wednesday morning. I guess the benefit of that is I get to see the ass-morning end of an election day...

But even then - for a political junkie this is the equivalent of draft day - Of course I'm not in it for either Barack or McCain, so I'd imagine for some it feels like the political Superbowl. I can relate. Every Republican debate was like a political Superbowl for me. Good times.

Taco John
11-04-2008, 05:26 AM
SO what news station will everyone be watching? i will probably go with CNBC and CNN back and forth. THen when Obama wins going directly to Fox to see them completely flip out.

I'm going to have to find a fox live feed somewhere.

the Talking Can
11-04-2008, 05:27 AM
couldn't sleep last night, going to get in line right now

it's like Christmas x 1000

sticking it to racists like big daddy and shitsprayer feels fucking awesome

YES WE CAN

Taco John
11-04-2008, 05:30 AM
Actually, I think I might tune out of the Cultural Borg Box this time around, and just take it in over the Internet.

Fruit Ninja
11-04-2008, 05:43 AM
I'm going to have to find a fox live feed somewhere.

i am sure justin tv will have a stream of it.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 05:58 AM
Just voted.

The line was absolutely ridiculous. Took me about 50 minutes to finally vote.

I took some pics. I'll upload'em.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 06:04 AM
Crappy, but a cameraphone. 6:00 AM EST in New Haven, Connecticut:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/jrc6248/line1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v303/jrc6248/line2.jpg

Saggysack
11-04-2008, 06:10 AM
My prediction. Race called by 9:30pm CST. Obama 52-43. Republitards humbled.

Friendo
11-04-2008, 06:11 AM
SO what news station will everyone be watching? i will probably go with CNBC and CNN back and forth. THen when Obama wins going directly to Fox to see them completely flip out.

sounds like a plan to me :thumb:

some talkkk-radio the day after for the 'core-meltdown".

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 06:16 AM
There are long lines all over the country it seems.

Great news. Record turnout would be awesome.

Reaper16
11-04-2008, 06:43 AM
It was nice to see a line of students at 6am here in Maryville, MO. Let the day of rejoicing begin.

ChiefsFan4Life
11-04-2008, 06:44 AM
Just got back from voting. I arrived at 10 til 6 and only had to wait 30 min to vote - benefit of living in the middle of nowhere

petegz28
11-04-2008, 06:44 AM
I went to vote, line was way too long, I will go back later when everyone is at work

triple
11-04-2008, 06:52 AM
wait was about 30 minutes for me earlier today.

there was an O-bot stationed outisde the door with a neon green Obama shirt covering his considerable gut and, seriously, an illuminated picture of our messiah. he was speaking to some peole at the other end but i couldnt hear what he was saying. some voters inside were complaining. i wish i could have waited around to see what happened, but unlike him, i have to go to work.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:57 AM
I took the day off today and probably wished I would have took off tomorrow. I am going to go vote around 10AM once all the early bird's are out of there and at work. I live in a small town and there is never lines so that is a good thing.

noa
11-04-2008, 06:57 AM
Just got back from voting. Had to wait for about an hour. Not too bad.

I did see one woman freak out though when she realized she had been waiting in the wrong line for an hour. She got beet red and berated one of the poll workers. She went on and on about how important it was for her to vote right away. I was just sick of it so I told her to get in front of me. Then she wouldn't stop talking to me. I wish I had my iPod to drown her out.

whoman69
11-04-2008, 09:06 AM
I'll be voting at 5:30 when the Mrs. gets home. Will be going out shortly to volunteer for the Obama campaign. Am looking forward to the latest updates from 538. I hadn't thought about the FOX angle. They probably will forget to call it.

Rain Man
11-04-2008, 09:11 AM
I'm a little wistful, because this is my last day as an affluent member of the ruling class. From here on out, you can find me in the re-education camps, working in the fields.

Rain Man
11-04-2008, 09:14 AM
Crappy, but a cameraphone. 6:00 AM EST in New Haven, Connecticut:



I always wondered what Connecticut looks like. The native costumes are less resplendant than I would've guessed.

Mail ballots are the way to go, by the way. I voted in my guest room a week and a half ago.

triple
11-04-2008, 09:15 AM
I'm a little wistful, because this is my last day as an affluent member of the ruling class. From here on out, you can find me in the re-education camps, working in the fields.

i'm with you... we should band together and go under the wire one of the first nights, before they beef up security after more escape attempts

Rain Man
11-04-2008, 09:18 AM
i'm with you... we should band together and go under the wire one of the first nights, before they beef up security after more escape attempts

That's a good point.

Hey, while we're here, do you know how to catch rats and make tasty soups and broths out of local weeds? I'm doing some reading up on it, but I still have questions.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 09:21 AM
They are reporting that in North Carolina Obama already has a 200,000 vote lead because of early voting

triple
11-04-2008, 09:22 AM
That's a good point.

Hey, while we're here, do you know how to catch rats and make tasty soups and broths out of local weeds? I'm doing some reading up on it, but I still have questions.

we should be trying to catch rabbits, more meat and you don't even need a knife to skin them.

Rain Man
11-04-2008, 09:24 AM
we should be trying to catch rabbits, more meat and you don't even need a knife to skin them.

This is why I want you in my prison barracks.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 09:26 AM
I'm a little wistful, because this is my last day as an affluent member of the ruling class. From here on out, you can find me in the re-education camps, working in the fields.

Well Rain Man if you would have voted for Obama you wouldn't have to go to the camp. Duh... :)

triple
11-04-2008, 09:26 AM
This is why I want you in my prison barracks.

i'll go bury my bow someplace in the woods. maybe we can poach some of the king's deer should the opportunity present itself.

Baby Lee
11-04-2008, 09:30 AM
I'll be at my polling station @ 6:00 am, too. Though that's no feat, as my polling station is only, like, 10 feet from my door.
Polling station, uhhhhh hutttt.
http://www.kamworld.net/chris/images/Butthead.jpg

Rain Man
11-04-2008, 09:30 AM
Well Rain Man if you would have voted for Obama you wouldn't have to go to the camp. Duh... :)

Sadly, I wear glasses. Anyone with glasses is being sent to the re-education camps, since we're obviously intellectuals.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 09:33 AM
Sadly, I wear glasses. Anyone with glasses is being sent to the re-education camps, since we're obviously intellectuals.

Well all the rich intellects are Obama supporters...well except you.

Ultra Peanut
11-04-2008, 09:35 AM
R. PAUL

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VS. M.C. CAIN

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VS. YOUR NEWWWWW WORLD HEAVYWEIGHT CHAMPION, BARRRRRRACK HUSSSSSEIN OBBBBBBBBBBBBAMA!

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EVERYBODY DANCE

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Rain Man
11-04-2008, 09:37 AM
I wonder if I could successfully blend into the crowd and live a life of subterfuge.

(Ahem.)

"It's time for change, America!"

"Skin the fat cats! Raise their taxes like crazy!"

"Bigger government is better for everyone! The money will trickle down to the people!"

"Where's my check?!"

(Looking furtively left, then .... no, not right. Looking furtively left again.)

noa
11-04-2008, 09:40 AM
I wonder if I could successfully blend into the crowd and live a life of subterfuge.

(Ahem.)

"It's time for change, America!"

"Skin the fat cats! Raise their taxes like crazy!"

"Bigger government is better for everyone! The money will trickle down to the people!"

"Where's my check?!"

(Looking furtively left, then .... no, not right. Looking furtively left again.)

Are you holding a latte or some groceries purchased at Whole Foods? You really need to get into the character.

The_Grand_Illusion
11-04-2008, 09:40 AM
I wonder if I could successfully blend into the crowd and live a life of subterfuge.

(Ahem.)

"It's time for change, America!"

"Skin the fat cats! Raise their taxes like crazy!"

"Bigger government is better for everyone! The money will trickle down to the people!"

"Where's my check?!"

(Looking furtively left, then .... no, not right. Looking furtively left again.)

I'm headed to the Colorado mountains.

:D

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***SPRAYER
11-04-2008, 09:46 AM
Sadly, I wear glasses. Anyone with glasses is being sent to the re-education camps, since we're obviously intellectuals.

Holiday Inn, Cambodia.

triple
11-04-2008, 09:48 AM
I'm going to hang a picture of Dear Leader up in every room of my house. That should help.

PRIEST
11-04-2008, 09:48 AM
SO what news station will everyone be watching? i will probably go with CNBC and CNN back and forth. THen when Obama wins going directly to Fox to see them completely flip out.



ROFL

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 10:24 AM
I just got back from voting. It was the biggest crowd I have ever seen voting in my small MO town. It was quite amazing and they are predicting 80-90% turnout.

BigRedChief
11-04-2008, 10:31 AM
Quote:
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SO what news station will everyone be watching? i will probably go with CNBC and CNN back and forth. THen when Obama wins going directly to Fox to see them completely flip out.

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I like that plan. I've got the champaign on ice too.

Demonpenz
11-04-2008, 10:42 AM
A list of tax breaks barak will implement

Demonpenz
11-04-2008, 10:48 AM
roooockey

Mecca
11-04-2008, 11:05 AM
I voted and took a nap...it was amusing I sat down to fill out my ballot and it was me and a bunch of old people..then 2 young people came in a man and a woman and they sat down by me as if to say "i'm sitting by you because everyone else is 500 years old"

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 03:34 PM
Only 1 1/2 hrs away until the first poll closes. I am getting nervous. I hope Obama wins and wins decisively.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 03:37 PM
CNN is saying the dreaded exit polls are about to be released. This should be interesting

jiveturkey
11-04-2008, 03:40 PM
CNN is saying the dreaded exit polls are about to be released. This should be interestingI was wondering when those started coming out.

They should be good for butt wipin'.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 03:42 PM
I was wondering when those started coming out.

They should be good for butt wipin'.

Yep but it will be interesting to see.

The first one is being reported in Pennsylvania in Lancastor Co which is a Republican stronghold

Obama 55
McCain 44

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-04-2008, 03:44 PM
My wife and I voted at 2:30 in Missouri. There was a 30 second wait. By the time I fed my ballot into the optical scanner, I was the 1080th person to vote at that particular precinct. There were about 20 other voters filling stuff in at the time.

Oh, and for the nervous energy...the chainsaw dance:

http://video2gif.leechvideo.com/convert/gif/200811041540404045.gif

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-04-2008, 03:45 PM
I'm not paying a gat damn bit of attention to any exit polls.

Pitt Gorilla
11-04-2008, 03:48 PM
Yep but it will be interesting to see.

The first one is being reported in Pennsylvania in Lancastor Co which is a Republican stronghold

Obama 55
McCain 44That is a bit unexpected.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:05 PM
CNN

Economy #1 with 62%
Iraq 10%
Terrorism 9%
Healthcare 9%

Ultra Peanut
11-04-2008, 04:08 PM
I'm not paying a gat damn bit of attention to any exit polls.Follow this example. Exit polls are horrible.




... but I'm still going to look when they come out.

'Hamas' Jenkins
11-04-2008, 04:10 PM
CNN

Economy #1 with 62%
Iraq 10%
Terrorism 9%
Healthcare 9%

Say yes to big titties, no to exit polls. They are about as reliable as IBD.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:13 PM
Say yes to big titties, no to exit polls. They are about as reliable as IBD.

I think these numbers are pretty accurate

Soupnazi
11-04-2008, 04:27 PM
A list of tax breaks barak will implement

Hilarious. These things never fail to make me laugh.

Fruit Ninja
11-04-2008, 04:54 PM
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Dont know if its been posted, but fire it up.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 05:03 PM
Apparently the exit polls are showing Obama winning big but the race is close in Virginia

Thig Lyfe
11-04-2008, 05:09 PM
Live coverage.

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dirk digler
11-04-2008, 05:26 PM
GA 47-51
FL 52-49
IA 58-42
IN 52-48
MI 60-39
MN 56-39
MO52-48
NC 52-48
NH 57-43
NM 56-43
NV 55-45
OH 54-45
PA 57-42
VA 55-45
WV 45-55
WI 58-42
National 54-44

Obama's numbers are the first column

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 05:34 PM
GA 47-51
FL 52-49
IA 58-42
IN 52-48
MI 60-39
MN 56-39
MO52-48
NC 52-48
NH 57-43
NM 56-43
NV 55-45
OH 54-45
PA 57-42
VA 55-45
WV 45-55
WI 58-42
National 54-44

Obama's numbers are the first column

Where'd you get those?

Buck
11-04-2008, 05:34 PM
First Polls close in half hour.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 05:36 PM
Where'd you get those?

I have an inside source...j/k

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/11/04/exit-polls-2008-see-the-f_n_140986.html

http://gawker.com/5076419/exit-polls-exit-polls-exit-polls

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 05:36 PM
First Polls close in half hour.

Indiana and Kentucky are already closed and are being counted as we speak

Obama is leading 51-48 in Indiana

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 05:47 PM
McCain knows he is going to lose

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/
McCain comes back to press cabin one last time

Amie Parnes, on the final stretch:

A subdued McCain came to the back of the plane to talk to reporters on the flight from New Mexico back to Arizona.

Cindy McCain, who stood beside her husband, had tears in her eyes.

"Well, my friends, this is our last flight on this airplane together so I just wanted to stop back," McCain said. "And yesterday I know was really a fun day starting out at the crack of dawn and ending up at 2 am. We went 3700 miles yesterday, had a great ride, and looking forward to the election results tonight and I'm feeling good, feeling confident about the way things have tured out. We've had a great ride, a great experience, it's full of memories that we will always treasure, including the last one up there in Colorado, where people were so warm-- and the enthusiasm as you've seen in rallies has been really quite remarkable and quite heartwarming. So, we've spent a lot of time together, so, been together for almost two years--others, those are the ones who rode around in the van with us on the $39.99 flight to Manchester. So anyway, we've had a great time and I wish all every success. Look forward to being with you in the future. Thanks very much."

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 05:47 PM
CNN's poll had white evangelicals nationwide supporting McCain 72%. Bush carried that demographic with 78%.

A vote opposite to the white evangelical demographic in almost all instances is the way to go, IMO.

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 05:56 PM
GOP strategist concedes that Dole is done.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 05:56 PM
Damn Obama is only down 2 in Kentucky. I wonder if that margin will hold up because he was projected to lose that state by double digits

Mecca
11-04-2008, 05:58 PM
Damn Obama is only down 2 in Kentucky. I wonder if that margin will hold up because he was projected to lose that state by double digits

That alone should be a sign.

kstater
11-04-2008, 05:58 PM
Damn Obama is only down 2 in Kentucky. I wonder if that margin will hold up because he was projected to lose that state by double digits

Louisville reports very early, probably why he's so close right now.

Buck
11-04-2008, 05:59 PM
McCain knows he is going to lose

http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/
McCain comes back to press cabin one last time

Amie Parnes, on the final stretch:

A subdued McCain came to the back of the plane to talk to reporters on the flight from New Mexico back to Arizona.

Cindy McCain, who stood beside her husband, had tears in her eyes.

"Well, my friends, this is our last flight on this airplane together so I just wanted to stop back," McCain said. "And yesterday I know was really a fun day starting out at the crack of dawn and ending up at 2 am. We went 3700 miles yesterday, had a great ride, and looking forward to the election results tonight and I'm feeling good, feeling confident about the way things have tured out. We've had a great ride, a great experience, it's full of memories that we will always treasure, including the last one up there in Colorado, where people were so warm-- and the enthusiasm as you've seen in rallies has been really quite remarkable and quite heartwarming. So, we've spent a lot of time together, so, been together for almost two years--others, those are the ones who rode around in the van with us on the $39.99 flight to Manchester. So anyway, we've had a great time and I wish all every success. Look forward to being with you in the future. Thanks very much."

I don't hear any concession there.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:00 PM
CNN Projects Obama wins Vermont and McCain wins Kentucky.

Good call kstater that is probably why it is showing so close

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 06:01 PM
Jesus, 50 votes diff. between Obama and McCain in IND.

Buck
11-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Jesus, 50 votes diff. between Obama and McCain in IND.

Just so I dont have to look it up, who won Indiana in 04?

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Mark Warner wins in Virginia. Congrats to him

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:03 PM
Just so I dont have to look it up, who won Indiana in 04?

Bush won fairly big IIRC

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 06:04 PM
Just so I dont have to look it up, who won Indiana in 04?

Bush. Indiana hasn't went Democratic since 1964.

OnTheWarpath58
11-04-2008, 06:05 PM
Just so I dont have to look it up, who won Indiana in 04?

Bush in 2000 and 2004.

Indiana is about as Republican as it gets.

Mr. Laz
11-04-2008, 06:07 PM
house projection

D - 264
R - 174

Wa-Z
11-04-2008, 06:13 PM
Ok - how is CNN calling states when less than 10% has been reported...some kind of statistical formula or something??

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Virginia polls have closed. This is the big state that we need to make this an early night

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:14 PM
Good news for Obama in Indiana since none of the Dem counties haven't even reported yet

banyon
11-04-2008, 06:15 PM
Wow, just saw Mitch McConnel was tied with Lunsford.

banyon
11-04-2008, 06:16 PM
Ok - how is CNN calling states when less than 10% has been reported...some kind of statistical formula or something??

They've always done that. It's statistical sampling ad margin of error.

Most national presidential polls you've seen were based on samples smaller than 1000 people.

banyon
11-04-2008, 06:17 PM
Why is Jessica Yellin appearing on CNN as a Princess Leia hologram?

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:17 PM
WTF is this Star Wars shit on CNN? Holy crap that is cool

Woodrow Call
11-04-2008, 06:18 PM
Good news for Obama in Indiana since none of the Dem counties haven't even reported yet

Look at some of the 2004 red counties

Steuben: Kerry 34%, Obama 42%
DeKalb: Kerry 31%, Obama 38%
Knox: Kerry 36%, Obama 54%
Marshall: Kerry 31%, Obama 50%

from 538.com

Mecca
11-04-2008, 06:19 PM
CNN wins the night for me by having the Star Wars-esque holograms.

Help me Wolf Blitzer, you're my only hope!

Seriously - they can do this. I demand my fucking lightsaber now.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:19 PM
Look at some of the 2004 red counties

Steuben: Kerry 34%, Obama 42%
DeKalb: Kerry 31%, Obama 38%
Knox: Kerry 36%, Obama 54%
Marshall: Kerry 31%, Obama 50%

from 538.com

That is awesome news for Obama

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:20 PM
CNN wins the night for me by having the Star Wars-esque holograms.

Help me Wolf Blitzer, you're my only hope!

Seriously - they can do this. I demand my ****ing lightsaber now.

No shit that is freaking cool

banyon
11-04-2008, 06:22 PM
CNN wins the night for me by having the Star Wars-esque holograms.

Help me Wolf Blitzer, you're my only hope!


LOL, it would have been great if she had used that line. :)

Mecca
11-04-2008, 06:22 PM
That hologram lady has the most self confidence ever because she just spent 5 minutes on national TV with CNN constantly showing her butt.

Buck
11-04-2008, 06:26 PM
Damnit, I need a screen cap of this Star Wars shit, I am missing it...

FYI Google News has called Kentucky (8) for McCain and Vermont (3) for Obama

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:26 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/

Schmidt mute on Palin

Steve Schmidt, talking to reporters today on McCain's plane as they made two final stops, offered a revealing non-answer when asked if he was happy with the selection of Sarah Palin.

"You know, we’ll uh, I’m not going to do, there’ll be time for all the post mortems in the race," Schmidt said.

Asked if he was happy with what she had done for the ticket, Schmidt again deflected the question.

"I think that, you know, I think we’ll know in a few hours what the results are, you know and I, there’ll be a time for all the post mortem parts of it," Schmidt said. "That’s not this afternoon before the polls close."

Plainly, Schmidt is trying to be a good soldier in the waning hours of the election. But that he wouldn't offer even the sparest of phrase for his candidate's running mate while polls are still open underscores the perception, reinforced by polls, that she hurt more than helped.

banyon
11-04-2008, 06:27 PM
Look at some of the 2004 red counties

Steuben: Kerry 34%, Obama 42%
DeKalb: Kerry 31%, Obama 38%
Knox: Kerry 36%, Obama 54%
Marshall: Kerry 31%, Obama 50%

from 538.com

Where on that site did you find those, I'm curious to see the current FL comparison.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 06:28 PM
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/


Vigo as bellwether

A Dem who has worked in Indiana sent over an email today noting that Vigo County, home to Terre Haute, has served as an accurate indicator of presidential success going back to at least '60.

It's a heavily blue collar slice of middle America, and right now it appears to be going Obama.

With 80 percent of the votes counted, Obama leads McCain in Vigo 57-42.

As my colleague Josh Kraushaar notes, Bush beat Kerry there 53-47.

These current turnout and percentages come, btw, from our boffo map on Politico's front page. Please click back often as this night gets underway.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Indiana is close and Indianapolis hasn't reported...McCain has to be sweating serious bullets.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 06:31 PM
All looking good so far :)

Robo-Chachi
11-04-2008, 06:35 PM
NBC had better not play this music all night.

banyon
11-04-2008, 06:44 PM
Obama up 11 in FL, but never count out that panhandle.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 06:45 PM
Obama up 11 in FL, but never count out that panhandle.

It's because everything right now is coming out of Miami Dade....Obama has to hit Jacksonville real hard when they get up in the northern part.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 06:47 PM
And McCain gets South Carolina, big shocker I know.

kcpasco
11-04-2008, 06:50 PM
And McCain gets South Carolina, big shocker I know.

and Kentucky, zomg the sky is falling

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 06:56 PM
It's because everything right now is coming out of Miami Dade....Obama has to hit Jacksonville real hard when they get up in the northern part.

In 2004 Kerry/Bush was a lot closer in Miami-Dade than in Broward and Palm Beach.

Calcountry
11-04-2008, 06:57 PM
And McCain gets South Carolina, big shocker I know.OH NNOOOOOOS

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 07:00 PM
Obama wins PA!!!

Its over!!!

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:01 PM
CNN Projecting for Obama

MA
IL
NJ
Maine
Delware
Maryland
DC

For McCain Oklahoma and Tennessee

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:01 PM
Obama wins PA!!!

Its over!!!

seriously?

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:01 PM
Electorial Votes

McCain - 39
Obama - 81

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:01 PM
McCains New Hampshire fantasy dies.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:02 PM
CNN just called a bunch of states...

Obama 197 away.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:02 PM
Electorial Votes

McCain - 39
Obama - 81

MSNBC has Obama at 103 with Pennsylvania.

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 07:02 PM
seriously?

MSNBC called it.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:02 PM
NBC has Obama 103 McCain 34

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:03 PM
MSNBC called it.

I just saw that. I think I will wait for CNN or Fox to call it

RJ
11-04-2008, 07:08 PM
I must confess, I am nervous as a whore in church.

First time in my life I've ever felt this strongly about a presidential election.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:10 PM
Hell yeah!! CNN is showing the map of FL and said when it's close it's decided by the "swing area" going from the central east coast across the state to the central west coast including where I now live in the Tampa Bay area. :)

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:10 PM
CNN is making me laugh they're going on and on about 2000 and other networks calling to early.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:11 PM
Oh and for Holmez up in Connecticut, John Sununu is getting curb stomped.

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 07:11 PM
No wonder they're calling PA, he won white voters 50-49. That's blowout material there.

kstater
11-04-2008, 07:12 PM
Dole got absolutely crushed.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:12 PM
LMAO

Kay Hagan beats the whore bitch Elizabeth Dole

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:12 PM
No wonder they're calling PA, he won white voters 50-49. That's blowout material there.

The Palin-factor.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:12 PM
Fox news says Elizabeth Dole goes down in her race so I guess that one is about as true as true gets.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:13 PM
Fox says Obama wins NH

Wa-Z
11-04-2008, 07:13 PM
What's going through McCain's head right now?

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:14 PM
What's going through McCain's head right now?

I shouldn't haven't picked that stupid bitch Palin

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:15 PM
CNN is purposely waiting longer than everyone else to project to try to look more journalistic.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:15 PM
In 2004 Kerry/Bush was a lot closer in Miami-Dade than in Broward and Palm Beach.

Miami-Dade hasn't even reported yet and Obama is murdering McCain in Broward.

http://enight.dos.state.fl.us/

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:16 PM
ABC and CBS are now calling Pennslvania for Obama...FUCK YEAH SEE YA OLD MAN

petegz28
11-04-2008, 07:17 PM
I shouldn't haven't picked that stupid bitch Palin

Man, all this name calling from you...is this what tolerance and diversity look like?

Wa-Z
11-04-2008, 07:22 PM
w/o Palin this race would never have been as close as it was...

petegz28
11-04-2008, 07:23 PM
No actual election returns in from PA yet per fox news. Only exit polls

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:23 PM
So if exit polling projections pan out regarding PA then all Obama has to do, given the way the map is looking, is win one of the following states: Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Missouri, or Colorado.

Chances of McCain win: 0.005%.

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:23 PM
NBC in KC predicting that Jax Nixon is the winner for the MO Gov.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:24 PM
NBC in KC predicting that Jax Nixon is the winner for the MO Gov.

Well hey I voted for Nixon.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:24 PM
Man, all this name calling from you...is this what tolerance and diversity look like?

:crybaby:

Mr. Plow
11-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Someone tell me the most unbiased network that is covering the election. I'd like to watch some of it without the BS.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:25 PM
On NBC Mike Murphy said Pinellas County in Florida is important to watch. I voted in Pinellas and right now Obama's up about 34,000 votes here.

petegz28
11-04-2008, 07:25 PM
So if exit polling projections pan out regarding PA then all Obama has to do, given the way the map is looking, is win one of the following states: Indiana, Ohio, Virginia, North Carolina, Georgia, Florida, Missouri, or Colorado.

Chances of McCain win: 0.005%.

How did those exit polls come out in 04? You know, the ones that said Kerry won in a landslide?

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:25 PM
Well hey I voted for Nixon.

I would have too if I lived in MO. Hulshof is a moron.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:25 PM
NBC in KC predicting that Jax Nixon is the winner for the MO Gov.

Not a surprise. A recent poll had Nixon up 20+ pts

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Draw an arrow on your ballot? WTF is wrong with Florida?

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Someone tell me the most unbiased network that is covering the election. I'd like to watch some of it without the BS.

CNN or Fox

Brit Hume on Fox is good it isn't the douchebags like Hannity

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
No actual election returns in from PA yet per fox news. Only exit polls

ABC News Radio projects PA on both exit polls and election returns.

Fruit Ninja
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Son of a bitch. I just tried to watch fox sports, and its nothing but old ass men that talk slow and slurred. It was boring.

err not sports,news

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Draw an arrow on your ballot? WTF is wrong with Florida?

Our county was coloring in a bubble on a scan tron sheet like in school.

Mr. Plow
11-04-2008, 07:26 PM
Draw an arrow on your ballot? WTF is wrong with Florida?


I saw that. Funny shit. I'm not sure who "runs" things down there, but they need someone new in charge.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:27 PM
How did those exit polls come out in 04? You know, the ones that said Kerry won in a landslide?

Holding on to your blind hope as long as you can? How cute..

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:27 PM
How did those exit polls come out in 04? You know, the ones that said Kerry won in a landslide?

Which is why I said the rest of my comment was based on the exit polls being right.

Not to be a homer but the exit polls have to have been horrible for them to call the state without any returns posted.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:28 PM
Draw an arrow on your ballot? WTF is wrong with Florida?

I've seen those, they are confusing as can be. What is wrong with bubbles?

Jeeze

Friendo
11-04-2008, 07:28 PM
Elizabeth Dole out in NC:thumb:

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:29 PM
I've seen those, they are confusing as can be. What is wrong with bubbles?

Jeeze

I guess it's different by county. In Pinellas we colored in a bubble and inserted into an optical scan machine.

kstater
11-04-2008, 07:29 PM
I guess it's different by county. In Pinellas we colored in a bubble and inserted into an optical scan machine.

The majority of the country uses that method.

J Diddy
11-04-2008, 07:29 PM
Our county was coloring in a bubble on a scan tron sheet like in school.

we did the arrow thing too in Joplin (albeit a line was sufficient)

however it was easily explained and you've had to have been a retard to not understand it

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:30 PM
Which is why I said the rest of my comment was based on the exit polls being right.

Not to be a homer but the exit polls have to have been horrible for them to call the state without any returns posted.

So far the exit polls have been right.

HELL YEAH FOX JUST CALLED PENNSLVANIA!!!

Fruit Ninja
11-04-2008, 07:30 PM
Obama gets NH

petegz28
11-04-2008, 07:30 PM
Holding on to your blind hope as long as you can? How cute..

No, just pointing out the folly of exit polls.

kstater
11-04-2008, 07:30 PM
FOX calls Pennsylvania. It's over.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:30 PM
ABC Radio just reported "Obama has 100(something) electoral votes).... The McCain campaign tells us that we are way off. (Commercials)".

ROFL

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:30 PM
CBS called PA to Obama and Ar-kan-suah to McCain.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:31 PM
I guess it's different by county. In Pinellas we colored in a bubble and inserted into an optical scan machine.

:thumb:

kstater
11-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Damn, my vote didn't count. I was really hoping I'd be the difference. :)

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:31 PM
CBS called PA to Obama and Ar-kan-suah to McCain.

I'll take it.

petegz28
11-04-2008, 07:31 PM
Which is why I said the rest of my comment was based on the exit polls being right.

Not to be a homer but the exit polls have to have been horrible for them to call the state without any returns posted.

Florida 2000 escapes everyone so quick. Obama probably will win PA....but lets wait for the actual votes.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:32 PM
So far the exit polls have been right.

HELL YEAH FOX JUST CALLED PENNSLVANIA!!!

Wow... PA was McCain's only chance.

I sense a blow out. Now can the get those last 2 senate seats?

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:33 PM
McCain spin doctor on MSNBC talking about how exit poll data is historically bad.

BigChiefFan
11-04-2008, 07:33 PM
I hope this isn't like 2000-that was a long night.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:34 PM
Florida 2000 escapes everyone so quick. Obama probably will win PA....but lets wait for the actual votes.

I will agree with your sentiment. Why can't you be this rational on any of the posts in the other thread?

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:34 PM
Before returning to the scheduled programming I think the one person who has taken a lot of arrows and was routinely underestimated in both his strategy of building from the bottom up and using technology not only to fund-raise but to target and motivate and expand your base is the one and only Howard Dean. Obama and Axelrod and Pfloofe (or however you spell it) will get all the glory but Howard Dean has delivered in ways that Terry McAulliffe could only have dream of doing.

Anyway, just a random observation.

Back to your scheduled programming...

Friendo
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
Wow... PA was McCain's only chance.

I sense a blow out. Now can the get those last 2 senate seats?

I heard McConnell could be close--any word on that one yet?

BigMeatballDave
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I hope this isn't like 2000-that was a long month.FYP

kstater
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I hope this isn't like 2000-that was a long night.

I wouldn't worry. I'd guess that at roughly 10:01 central, right after California closes, it'll be called and conceded.

petegz28
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I will agree with your sentiment. Why can't you be this rational on any of the posts in the other thread?

Because most liberal threads are irrational to begin with. So it is hard for me to inject rationality into what is a thread based in irrational thought.

That is not to say Con threads are all witty.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
I hope this isn't like 2000-that was a long night.

Once Florida or Ohio gets called for Obama the night is over. I fully expect Obama to win one of those

RJ
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
Florida 2000 escapes everyone so quick. Obama probably will win PA....but lets wait for the actual votes.



I'm not counting any chickens yet.

CNN is being very conservative about calling these states, I'll stick with them.

Friendo
11-04-2008, 07:35 PM
Before returning to the scheduled programming I think the one person who has taken a lot of arrows and was routinely underestimated in both his strategy of building from the bottom up and using technology not only to fund-raise but to target and motivate and expand your base is the one and only Howard Dean. Obama and Axelrod and Pfloofe (or however you spell it) will get all the glory but Howard Dean has delivered in ways that Terry McAulliffe could only have dream of doing.

Anyway, just a random observation.

Back to your scheduled programming...

REP--definitely REP!

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:36 PM
One other random observation after flipping through the channels -- what the heck is up with Fox News' set-up. The camera angles on Brit Hume are always filled with everyone else on the panel looking around in the background. Real bizarre layout there.

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 07:36 PM
Georgia went to McCain.

RJ
11-04-2008, 07:37 PM
I hope this isn't like 2000-that was a long night.


When i went to bed Gore was the president. When I woke up it was Bush.

Eight years later.....

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:38 PM
Before returning to the scheduled programming I think the one person who has taken a lot of arrows and was routinely underestimated in both his strategy of building from the bottom up and using technology not only to fund-raise but to target and motivate and expand your base is the one and only Howard Dean. Obama and Axelrod and Pfloofe (or however you spell it) will get all the glory but Howard Dean has delivered in ways that Terry McAulliffe could only have dream of doing.

Anyway, just a random observation.

Back to your scheduled programming...

I agree. Dean developed the 50-state strategy was the one who started the whole Internet donations the Obama campaign just made them better.

McAulifee is only good at fund raising and that is pretty much it

BigMeatballDave
11-04-2008, 07:38 PM
BO is up 2 to 1 in Ohio. McCain is done.

ROYC75
11-04-2008, 07:38 PM
Folks, it's over ........Hello Pres. Obalinsky.

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:38 PM
Georgia went to McCain.

LOL. One down, six more (Florida, North Carolina, Virginia, Ohio, Indiana, and Colorado) to go!

DaFace
11-04-2008, 07:39 PM
Draw an arrow on your ballot? WTF is wrong with Florida?

That's the system they use in Denver (proper). Ours was a bubble sheet though (in a north county).

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:39 PM
CNN finally called PA.

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:40 PM
CBS projecting McCain winning Alabama.

Ultra Peanut
11-04-2008, 07:40 PM
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:41 PM
I agree. Dean developed the 50-state strategy was the one who started the whole Internet donations the Obama campaign just made them better.

McAulifee is only good at fund raising and that is pretty much it

I'd say he's only good at fund-raising and palm-pressing the fat-cats. Dean not only knew a way to reach his base but get them to donate in small, but cumulatively meaningful, ways.

Joe Trippi was a casual acquaintance many years ago and was the guy who saw you could fund-raise and track and target online back in the mid-90s, but Dean took it to a whole new level that frankly should embarrass Republicans.

ROYC75
11-04-2008, 07:42 PM
PRESIDENT BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA II


Don't wet your panties.......

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:42 PM
I just want to know at the end of this night if Howard Dean will let out his emphatic scream.

MahiMike
11-04-2008, 07:43 PM
Pennsylvania to Oooooooooooooobama

Basileus777
11-04-2008, 07:44 PM
The McCain party looks like a funeral...

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:44 PM
Don't wet your panties.......

I don't follow much on here, but why the jaded hate on Obama? Did he insult your dog or somethin. :shrug:

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:44 PM
I just want to know at the end of this night if Howard Dean will let out his emphatic scream.

I would donate to Obama if he did. That would be awesome.

Friendo
11-04-2008, 07:44 PM
I just want to know at the end of this night if Howard Dean will let out his emphatic scream.

I don't know but my guess is it gets posted here a few times :D:D:D

ROYC75
11-04-2008, 07:44 PM
Break out Dire Straits, Money For Nothing so the Obots can sing and smile.

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:45 PM
The McCain party looks like a funeral...

I'm from Chicago and I love Grant Park (especially on the 4th of July). Would be fun to be there tonight even though Obama wasn't my first choice. ;)

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:45 PM
I am a little bit concerned that Obama hasn't won a red state yet. He needs Ohio, Florida, Virginia, NC or MO to seal this up

MahiMike
11-04-2008, 07:45 PM
Interesting point. Biden is winning Delaware senate seat. Once he's VP, the new (democrat) Governor will assign the seat. Could be Biden's son.

HemiEd
11-04-2008, 07:45 PM
McCain is up on the popular vote right now. :D

NewChief
11-04-2008, 07:45 PM
Hussein bitches.

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:46 PM
I am a little bit concerned that Obama hasn't won a red state yet. He needs Ohio, Florida, Virginia, NC or MO to seal this up

He's 2-1 up in Ohio, and has a 9% lead in NC.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:46 PM
I'm from Chicago and I love Grant Park (especially on the 4th of July). Would be fun to be there tonight even though Obama wasn't my first choice. ;)

I was there a few weeks ago. Looks awesome tonight!

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:47 PM
I am a little bit concerned that Obama hasn't won a red state yet. He needs Ohio, Florida, Virginia, NC or MO to seal this up

Just remember the ones he has a real shot at yet haven't been called..2 states McCain wanted are called, that's the difference.

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:47 PM
I am a little bit concerned that Obama hasn't won a red state yet. He needs Ohio, Florida, Virginia, NC or MO to seal this up

But he only needs one.

As I said earlier today, McCain doesn't need just an inside straight, he needs a royal flush. Don't see it happening.

Calcountry
11-04-2008, 07:47 PM
He's 2-1 up in Ohio, and has a 9% lead in NC.McConnell KEEPS KENTUCKY BITCHES>

Calcountry
11-04-2008, 07:48 PM
Mitch Daniels wins Indiana (R)

BigMeatballDave
11-04-2008, 07:48 PM
Florida is getting tight.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:49 PM
Before returning to the scheduled programming I think the one person who has taken a lot of arrows and was routinely underestimated in both his strategy of building from the bottom up and using technology not only to fund-raise but to target and motivate and expand your base is the one and only Howard Dean. Obama and Axelrod and Pfloofe (or however you spell it) will get all the glory but Howard Dean has delivered in ways that Terry McAulliffe could only have dream of doing.

Anyway, just a random observation.

Back to your scheduled programming...

You aren't alone in that observation. I saw a fantastic post on that topic on DU the other day.

Edit: Oddly enough if you google Obama Howard Dean Democraticunderground it's the first result.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7715181

I was going to post this Wednesday, but it deserves mention tonight and it would just get lost in all the "woohoo!" threads that day.

* Back in 2003, when nobody was thinking about tapping into the fear and angst of America's youth - Howard Dean saw something brewing.
* Back in 2003, when nobody in politics imagined the power of small donations over the internet - Howard Dean saw an opportunity.
* Back in 2003, when nobody on the left even thought about asking folks in red states for their vote - Howard Dean saw Americans who had the same needs and desires that blue-staters had.
* Back in 2006, when "establishment" Democrats and DLC-ers said that all of our money should be spent on trying to make sure we won just the 10 or 12 seats we needed for a majority, Howard Dean decided to think bigger and try for seats that Republicans thought were safe for them.

Howard Dean was the trailblazer. When Barack Obama gave his famous "we're not an America of red states and blue states, but of ALL states" speech - it was borne from Howard Dean's campaign.

He had the right message, but he wasn't the right messenger.

Howard Dean was version 1.0.

The right messenger was Barack Obama. And the blueprint created by Dr. Dean, but unable to be implemented by him.... was adopted by Obama and put into action.

* Obama brought in over $600 million is donations that averaged $86, perfecting the fund-raising model created by Howard Dean.
* Obama made sure that young people everywhere felt like they could make a difference again, tapping into the activism that Howard Dean had awakened.
* Obama made sure to work as hard for the votes from citizens of red states as he did for the votes from citizens of blue and purple states.



Barack Obama is Howard Dean 2.0.

In 48 hours, Barack Obama will be getting ready to give one of the greatest victory speeches any of us will ever hear. It will ring in our ears for decades.

In 79 days, Barack Obama will take the oath of office in front of Chief Justice Roberts and a throng of a million or more.

But there will be one man who won't be on the minds of the pundits or most of America. But he'll be on my mind.

He's "the one" who made it all possible.


Howard Dean saved America (and maybe the world, in the process).

It's up to us to make sure history doesn't forget about him.

Calcountry
11-04-2008, 07:49 PM
But he only needs one.

As I said earlier today, McCain doesn't need just an inside straight, he needs a royal flush. Don't see it happening.No, but you can forget the blowout, it ain't hapnin.

The fillibuster will remain in tact, good luck getting your agenda through congress.

Friendo
11-04-2008, 07:49 PM
I'm from Chicago and I love Grant Park (especially on the 4th of July). Would be fun to be there tonight even though Obama wasn't my first choice. ;)

I would think a live Chicago concert @ Grant Park would be required in that case;)

BigMeatballDave
11-04-2008, 07:49 PM
Why no returns from NY?

jAZ
11-04-2008, 07:49 PM
McConnell KEEPS KENTUCKY BITCHES>

ROFL... Kentucky.

Congrats!

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 07:50 PM
He's 2-1 up in Ohio, and has a 9% lead in NC.

Sorry I am being a worry wort again

HemiEd
11-04-2008, 07:50 PM
Hussein bitches.

If he is going to be my President, he will have my respect and support.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:50 PM
Florida is getting tight.

Miami-Dade hasn't reported yet.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:50 PM
No, but you can forget the blowout, it ain't hapnin.

The fillibuster will remain in tact, good luck getting your agenda through congress.

That just made me laugh.

kstater
11-04-2008, 07:51 PM
Why no returns from NY?

Polls still open.

Calcountry
11-04-2008, 07:51 PM
Florida is getting tight.Palm Beach came in first, then the the panhandle comes in for the R's

It will narrow, but I don't know who will win yet, it will be a long time.

If O gets Fla or OH, it is official.....

8:50 and counting, not there yet.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 07:52 PM
Miami-Dade hasn't reported yet.

Actually... it looks like maybe half of Dade, Broward and Palm Beach has reported.

RJ
11-04-2008, 07:52 PM
McConnell KEEPS KENTUCKY BITCHES>



Western Ky votes coming through. That's mighty conservative country.

Right, Roy?

BigMeatballDave
11-04-2008, 07:53 PM
Polls still open.Jeez. What time do they close there?

HemiEd
11-04-2008, 07:54 PM
The woman were the answer. Barack Obama, looked better on TV.

Mizzou_8541
11-04-2008, 07:54 PM
This is more exciting than Jamal Charles at QB.

Wait...what?

Coach
11-04-2008, 07:54 PM
http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/results/president/

You can click on the state and search by county on the flash.

MahiMike
11-04-2008, 07:54 PM
Looks like just us liberals on here tonite. Anybody seen Shitsprayer?

RJ
11-04-2008, 07:55 PM
If he is going to be my President, he will have my respect and support.



Rep to you, my friend.

Mecca
11-04-2008, 07:56 PM
Tom Delay on MSNBC, he looks like he's about to kill himself.

RINGLEADER
11-04-2008, 07:56 PM
You aren't alone in that observation. I saw a fantastic post on that topic on DU the other day.

Edit: Oddly enough if you google Obama Howard Dean Democraticunderground it's the first result.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7715181

To further that point I'm not sure there's been a better national chairman (at least not since I was old enough to care about such wonky things) in picking candidates. It really creates a lot of frustration when you're more ideologically positioned to the right but it is amazingly smart on Dean's part.

That said, with a lot of centerist candidates now elected to congress, they're going to have to deliver on that centerist agenda.

I've said a couple times that I think one of the biggest challenges that Obama and the Dems are going to have is to restrain themselves from moving too far left (as the Republicans did to the right after 2004 or Clinton did after he was elected in '92 -- something he rectified before his re-election).

RJ
11-04-2008, 07:56 PM
Looks like just us liberals on here tonite. Anybody seen Shitsprayer?



Not completely. HemiEd, Roy, petezg to name a few.