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Bootlegged
11-04-2008, 03:47 PM
Because, you know, why wouldn't they?

BIG_DADDY
11-04-2008, 03:48 PM
Because, you know, why wouldn't they?

Pretty much.

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 03:48 PM
Certainly help to diminish Republican turnout in western states...so yeah, why wouldn't they? The press has been carrying Barry O's water this long, why stop now?

the Talking Can
11-04-2008, 03:49 PM
exit polls are meaningless

BIG_DADDY
11-04-2008, 03:50 PM
exit polls are meaningless

Absolutely

the Talking Can
11-04-2008, 03:50 PM
for a bunch of racists, you really are some whiny bitches...

i thought racists were cool, tough guys?

El Jefe
11-04-2008, 03:50 PM
Certainly help to diminish Republican turnout in western states...so yeah, why wouldn't they? The press has been carrying Barry O's water this long, why stop now?

This.

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 03:52 PM
for a bunch of racists, you really are some whiny bitches...

i thought racists were cool, tough guys?

Blow me jackass. I'm no racist.

|Zach|
11-04-2008, 03:55 PM
This.

It has nothing to do with the Republicans running a candidate who went away from everything he stood for to try and become President?

Hell the guy propped up the most liberal plan since Hillarycare in his 300 Billion Dollar mortgage buyout hilarity.

But it is Obama who is the socialist...

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 03:57 PM
It has nothing to do with the Republicans running a candidate who went away from everything he stood for to try and become President?

Hell the guy propped up the most liberal plan since Hillarycare in his 300 Billion Dollar mortgage buyout hilarity.

But it is Obama who is the socialist...

I would tell you what Barry supports based on his voting record but "Present" doesn't really tell you much.

To quote John Boehner, "In Congress, we have a red button, a green button and a yellow button ... Green means 'yes,' 'red' means no, and 'yellow' means you're a chickenshit. And the last thing we need in the White House, in the Oval Office, behind that big desk, is some chicken who wants to push this yellow button."

jiveturkey
11-04-2008, 03:59 PM
They sounds like all of the libs in 04 and 00. Operation prepare excuses.

Fire the victim cannon!

We got robbed!!!

Bootlegged
11-04-2008, 04:00 PM
And there it is - Dems predicting 58 seats

|Zach|
11-04-2008, 04:02 PM
I would tell you what Barry supports based on his voting record but "Present" doesn't really tell you much.

To quote John Boehner, "In Congress, we have a red button, a green button and a yellow button ... Green means 'yes,' 'red' means no, and 'yellow' means you're a chickenshit. And the last thing we need in the White House, in the Oval Office, behind that big desk, is some chicken who wants to push this yellow button."

And thats just it...you wouldn't tell me about John McCain would you. You would tell me about Obama.

This is why McCain will lose this election.

triple
11-04-2008, 04:02 PM
haven't we learned about exit polls in the past?

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:03 PM
haven't we learned about exit polls in the past?

We have but they are still fun to talk about.

I will agree for once with bootlegged I think they will show Obama winning big

Velvet_Jones
11-04-2008, 04:05 PM
for a bunch of racists, you really are some whiny bitches...

i thought racists were cool, tough guys?

You are a racists.

jiveturkey
11-04-2008, 04:06 PM
I will agree for once with bootlegged I think they will show Obama winning bigHasn't pretty every poll over the last 3 weeks shown the same thing?

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 04:08 PM
And thats just it...you wouldn't tell me about John McCain would you. You would tell me about Obama.

This is why McCain will lose this election.

McCain showed up for the debate and did his job, Barry O went to his bunker and avoided all comment at all costs.

Leadership means taking a stand. McCain did, Barry doesn't.

DaKCMan AP
11-04-2008, 04:10 PM
McCain showed up for the debate and did his job, Barry O went to his bunker and avoided all comment at all costs.

Leadership means taking a stand. McCain did, Barry doesn't.

ROFLROFLROFL

|Zach|
11-04-2008, 04:11 PM
McCain showed up for the debate and did his job, Barry O went to his bunker and avoided all comment at all costs.

Leadership means taking a stand. McCain did, Barry doesn't.

What on earth are you talking about? Obama went to the debates and did his job, most people think he did that job a lot better than McCain.

What does McCain make a stand on. Do you know the kind of stands McCain took in 2000. Do you know the kind he makes now?

The guy is a sinking ship...in a knee jerk reactions he throws out the MOST LIBERAL BUYOUT plan of the two candidates and picks a VP who has taken him off of his key message.

triple
11-04-2008, 04:11 PM
We have but they are still fun to talk about.

I will agree for once with bootlegged I think they will show Obama winning big

i'm positive the media will come up with that, in an attempt to suppress conservative voters who don't go until after work and those in western states.

i dont know how, at all, you could have a very reliable exit poll. different types of people vote at different times of day. totally ignores early and absentee. ignores people (conservatives) who are much less likely to participate. they're just stupid.

DaneMcCloud
11-04-2008, 04:13 PM
Certainly help to diminish Republican turnout in western states...so yeah, why wouldn't they? The press has been carrying Barry O's water this long, why stop now?

Why?

If Republican voters saw that the Democrats were winning, why wouldn't they go out in force to vote for their candidate?

Your logic doesn't make any sense.

Donger
11-04-2008, 04:15 PM
Anyone who sees an exit poll and decides not to go and vote because of it is pathetic.

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 04:15 PM
What on earth are you talking about? Obama went to the debates and did his job, most people think he did that job a lot better than McCain.

What does McCain make a stand on. Do you know the kind of stands McCain took in 2000. Do you know the kind he makes now?

The guy is a sinking ship...in a knee jerk reactions he throws out the MOST LIBERAL BUYOUT plan of the two candidates and picks a VP who has taken him off of his key message.

Most people didn't pay attention then. Obama hunkered for cover under the skirts of his leadership...again. The defining characteristic of his legislative career.

And that liberal buyout plan may end up a revenue raiser for the treasury, just like the airline bailout ended up a revenue raiser. It wasn't a giveaway, it was a loan to infuse capitol into struggling markets. None of which would have been necessary of GSA's weren't part of the market equation as part of securitized investments. But those are the pesky details.

Bottom line, Obama went into hiding and McCain stood his ground. Take it or leave it McCain took his position. Obama took cover.

RJ
11-04-2008, 04:15 PM
Exit polls are foolish. They serve no good purpose for anyone except the media. Ain't over 'til it's over.

petegz28
11-04-2008, 04:15 PM
Exit polls said Kerry won too....

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 04:16 PM
Why?

If Republican voters saw that the Democrats were winning, why wouldn't they go out in force to vote for their candidate?

Your logic doesn't make any sense.

It's commonplace when people don't feel their vote will make a difference to say f it, I'm going home. Hard cores will still vote but the person voting for the first or second time may just pack it in and catch an extra Seinfeld rerun. It ain't right, it just is.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:17 PM
I don't get how leaked polls help one or the other.

If it's the news is one candidate "landslide" then Obama voters may hold off on voting. And McCain voters might give up.

Seems like the impact of depressed turnout is the same for both sides.

HolmeZz
11-04-2008, 04:18 PM
Leadership means taking a stand. McCain did, Barry doesn't.

A stand? McCain said he wasn't going to go to the debate until the 'economy was fixed' and then he showed up in Mississippi without anything done.

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 04:18 PM
I don't get how leaked polls help one or the other.

If it's the news is one candidate "landslide" then Obama voters may hold off on voting. And McCain voters might give up.

Seems like the impact of depressed turnout is the same for both sides.

Traditionally, yes, you're right. The landslide keeps the winning side folks at home. This year is different. Landslide or not, winning or losing by a shit ton the Obots will vote. They want to say they cast their vote for the first major party black presidential candidate, that they were part of history. They'll show up, ACORN will see to it.

|Zach|
11-04-2008, 04:19 PM
A stand? McCain said he wasn't going to go to the debate until the 'economy' was fixed and then he showed up in Mississippi without anything done.

He stopped his campaign to make sure something got done...said he wasn't going to debate.

Then what he was working on FAILED and he STILL went to the debate.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
Traditionally, yes, you're right. The landslide keeps the winning side folks at home. This year is different. Landslide or not, winning or losing by a shit ton the Obots will vote. They want to say they cast their vote for the first major party black presidential candidate, that they were part of history. They'll show up, ACORN will see to it.

That's true (partisan goggles aside).

Motivation favors Obama over McCain and I guess news of a landslide would cause more Reps to stay home than Dems.

RaiderH8r
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
A stand? McCain said he wasn't going to go to the debate until the 'economy was fixed' and then he showed up in Mississippi without anything done.

Yeah, because Obama would have pulled the old, "I'm here and ready for a debate, so what if McCain isn't. Here's his empty chair, I'll debate that." tactic.

DaneMcCloud
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
It's commonplace when people don't feel their vote will make a difference to say f it, I'm going home. Hard cores will still vote but the person voting for the first or second time may just pack it in and catch an extra Seinfeld rerun. It ain't right, it just is.

Interesting. I've never heard that before.

I guess you're right: They're not hardcore voters.

Bootlegged
11-04-2008, 04:21 PM
the 538 kid says

Obama - 349

McCain - 189

|Zach|
11-04-2008, 04:22 PM
Yeah, because Obama would have pulled the old, "I'm here and ready for a debate, so what if McCain isn't. Here's his empty chair, I'll debate that." tactic.
So...McCain didn't stand up for what he said he was going to do?

RJ
11-04-2008, 04:29 PM
the 538 kid says

Obama - 349

McCain - 189


Based on final polls from yesterday or exit polls?

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:32 PM
Based on final polls from yesterday or exit polls?

Based on all the polls. He posted that earlier today

RJ
11-04-2008, 04:33 PM
Traditionally, yes, you're right. The landslide keeps the winning side folks at home. This year is different. Landslide or not, winning or losing by a shit ton the Obots will vote. They want to say they cast their vote for the first major party black presidential candidate, that they were part of history. They'll show up, ACORN will see to it.



According to some posters on this forum, the Obama voters aren't going to show up in the expected numbers today. I don't think that's true, but I also don't want them to have any reason to stay home.

Exit polls shouldn't be revealed until all the polls are closed.

RJ
11-04-2008, 04:35 PM
Based on all the polls. He posted that earlier today



Ok. That was the same one where they gave Obama a 98.1 win percent.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:37 PM
Watching Foxes exit poll results...

New voters 10%
Indiana 73% Obama
Ohio 69% Obama
Virginia 63% Obama

White Men 36% (same states)
54% McCain
51% McCain
58% McCain

Late Deciders 7% (Same states)
52% Obama
54% Obama
55% McCain

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:39 PM
Watching Foxes exit poll results...

New voters 10%
Indiana 73% Obama
Ohio 69% Obama
Virginia 63% Obama

White Men 36% (same states)
54% McCain
51% McCain
58% McCain

Late Deciders 7% (Same states)
52% Obama
54% Obama
55% McCain

Not bad numbers for Obama

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:40 PM
MSNBC's Exit Polls

Issues

62% Economy
10% Iraq
9% Healthcare
9% Terrorism

Approve of Iraq War
35% approve (vs 54% in 2004)

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:40 PM
Not bad numbers for Obama

Worried about VA there. Not long ago, white males favored Obama by a smidge. Not good for McCain that white males were only 36%of the voters.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:44 PM
Joe Scarborough just said that McCain lost the election weeks ago because he ran a 1970s style get out the vote effort in the last 72 hours... and Obama started running his GOTV effort 7 weeks ago.

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:45 PM
Worried about VA there. Not long ago, white males favored Obama by a smidge. Not good for McCain that white males were only 36%of the voters.

I think VA is going to be close especially if there is alot of absentee ballots from the military that a federal judge said they have hold until Nov 10

dirk digler
11-04-2008, 04:48 PM
Drudge is reporting the exit polls are showing Obama up 15 in Pennsylvania

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:49 PM
Reiminder:

11.04.08 -- 5:45PM // link | RECOMMEND RECOMMEND (0)

The Exits
We're getting in a flurry of exit poll data, some from official sources (the stuff you can see on the networks) and others leaked. You have to remember, the early unweighted 2004 exits were grossly inaccurate. So we're trying to plow through the numbers and try to sift the fog from the real information.

More soon.

--Josh Marshall

RJ
11-04-2008, 04:50 PM
Joe Scarborough just said that McCain lost the election weeks ago because he ran a 1970s style get out the vote effort in the last 72 hours... and Obama started running his GOTV effort 7 weeks ago.



I've gotten multiple phone calls as well as two campaigners on foot from the Obama campaign. I've never seen or spoken with anyone from McCain's.....and I'm in what is supposed to be a battleground state. Based on the turnouts for his appearances I think he was just woefully short of volunteers.

jAZ
11-04-2008, 04:53 PM
I've gotten multiple phone calls as well as two campaigners on foot from the Obama campaign. I've never seen or spoken with anyone from McCain's.....and I'm in what is supposed to be a battleground state. Based on the turnouts for his appearances I think he was just woefully short of volunteers.

They GOTV effort only focuses on voters they think favor them. They don't go door to door. So if Obama is targeting you and McCain isn't it might just be because Obama thinks you'll vote for him and McCain agrees.

RJ
11-04-2008, 04:59 PM
They GOTV effort only focuses on voters they think favor them. They don't go door to door. So if Obama is targeting you and McCain isn't it might just be because Obama thinks you'll vote for him and McCain agrees.


I assumed as much about the phone calls but I wondered about the door to door folks. The Obama people came through the neighborhood twice that I know of but I never saw any McCain workers. And there's nothing about our area that would make me less likely to vote republican.