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KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 05:51 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>QBRat</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Comp</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Att</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Pct</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/A</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Int</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Rush</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Avg</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Sack</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>YdsL</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Fum</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>FumL</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Last 4 Games</TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>101.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>71</TD><TD class=yspscores>113</TD><TD class=yspscores>62.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>786</TD><TD class=yspscores>196.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD class=yspscores>89</TD><TD class=yspscores>22.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>7</TD><TD class=yspscores>39</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 7 (TEN)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>68.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>5</TD><TD class=yspscores>11</TD><TD class=yspscores>45.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>76</TD><TD class=yspscores>76.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD class=yspscores>21</TD><TD class=yspscores>21.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 8 (@NYJ)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>110.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>36</TD><TD class=yspscores>69.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>280</TD><TD class=yspscores>280.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD class=yspscores>20</TD><TD class=yspscores>20.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD class=yspscores>30</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 9 (TAM)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>89.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>14</TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>56.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>164</TD><TD class=yspscores>164.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD class=yspscores>22</TD><TD class=yspscores>22.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 10 (@SDG)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>108.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>27</TD><TD class=yspscores>41</TD><TD class=yspscores>65.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>266</TD><TD class=yspscores>266.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>26</TD><TD class=yspscores>26.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>13.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I don't think any QB in Chiefs history has started off this well, certainly not under these dire circumstances.

KCJohnny
:arrow:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081110/thumb.5c34e6ba47a0458fb073e8d43cb0d4a7.chiefs_chargers_football_cadp109.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8471/photos;_ylt=AqthXpy19GqaOJgyZj2aGN7.uLYF?slug=5c34e6ba47a0458fb073e8d43cb0d4a7.chiefs_chargers_footb all_cadp109) http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/51/thumbe.d978f222c5f779ef360a4cdac4585c6b/d978f222c5f779ef360a4cdac4585c6b-getty-81706939jg004_kansas_city_c.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8471/photos;_ylt=AoyJEMjycp0.fPcplPCvnDv.uLYF?slug=d978f222c5f779ef360a4cdac4585c6b-getty-81706939jg004_kansas_city_c) http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/10/thumbe.8ea3eee1ab7d2ec56324b5cbf926180e/8ea3eee1ab7d2ec56324b5cbf926180e-getty-81706939jg005_kansas_city_c.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8471/photos;_ylt=AruIM4IS4uXGAbpTkQxbPf3.uLYF?slug=8ea3eee1ab7d2ec56324b5cbf926180e-getty-81706939jg005_kansas_city_c)

This (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5028404&postcount=56) is funny.

John Elway 1st year:
<TABLE class="w655px datatablecell" cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=datatabledatahead><TD rowSpan=2>Season</TD><TD rowSpan=2>Team</TD><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD colSpan=10>Passing</TD><TD colSpan=4>Rushing</TD><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=datatabledatahead><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>Comp</TD><TD>Att</TD><TD>Pct</TD><TD>Yds</TD><TD>Avg</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>Int</TD><TD>Sck</TD><TD>SckY</TD><TD>Rate</TD><TD>Att</TD><TD>Yds</TD><TD>Avg</TD><TD>TD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE class="w655px datatablecell" cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=over onmouseover="this.className='over'" onmouseout="this.className='rowAlt'"><TD>1983 </TD><TD>Denver Broncos (http://www.nfl.com/teams/denverbroncos/profile?team=DEN)</TD><TD>11 </TD><TD>-- </TD><TD>123</TD><TD>259</TD><TD>47.5</TD><TD>1,663</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>218</TD><TD>54.9</TD><TD>28



</TD><TD>146</TD><TD>5.2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 06:26 AM
4 games is a pretty damn good stretch.

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 06:33 AM
4 games is a pretty damn good stretch.

The opponents were not fellow 1-7 teams, ether. The last Chiefs QB who started out this well was Lenny Dawson for the '62 Dallas Texans. That's after rusting on NFL benches for 5 years and nearly quitting football.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 07:13 AM
I put him as my backup on fantasy, he is sure to do well. Any QB I start fails miserably but my backups play extremely well, for the team, I sat TT.

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 07:16 AM
I put him as my backup on fantasy, he is sure to do well. Any QB I start fails miserably but my backups play extremely well, for the team, I sat TT.
Against the Saints, if Herm lets Chan plan a good game, Thiggy should have his first 300 yd game.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 07:53 AM
Against the Saints, if Herm lets Chan plan a good game, Thiggy should have his first 300 yd game.

Exactly why I sat him, I would love to get the fantasy points BUT I would like to see Thiggy do well. I would love for him to get 300+ and 3 TD's 0 Int's.

Plus I kept Romo, while he was injured so I can start him.

CupidStunt
11-13-2008, 07:54 AM
It's not nothing. It's also not everything. Here's to hoping he doubles it and has an eight-game stretch of such productivity.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 07:54 AM
only thing I'm scared about is Brees and his arm. He could torch our D without Flowers and co not playing.

Even if we do lose though, just to see Thigpen play well would be great.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 07:58 AM
It's not nothing. It's also not everything. Here's to hoping he doubles it and has an eight-game stretch of such productivity.

Just to see him gain confidence in his abilities and continue gaining the confidence of his receivers, relieving pressure from our non-existant running game and making good decisions would be enough for me offensively.

Dorsey getting another sack or two, Dline beginning to gel to stop the run, and some of the 2nd stringers stepping up and making plays on defense.

JASONSAUTO
11-13-2008, 07:58 AM
where does that rank him in league terms in thge last 4?

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 08:00 AM
only thing I'm scared about is Brees and his arm. He could torch our D without Flowers and co not playing.

Even if we do lose though, just to see Thigpen play well would be great.

Saints will win, say, 38-33, but Thiggy will win converts with this game. 4 straight games with a high passer rating and a positive TD to INT ratio will seal the deal. Tyler's numbers will be close to this: 25-42 for 330 yds, 2 TDs and 1 INT. If/when we lose, it will be impossible to pin it on Tyler.

Advantage is clearly to the airborne Saints and Brees' record shattering year vs our some-guy-in-a-Chiefs-uniform secondary. But Thigpen will hurt the Saints and the jury will be coming in on Thigpen as a legit NFL starting QB.

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 08:07 AM
only thing I'm scared about is Brees and his arm. He could torch our D without Flowers and co not playing.

Even if we do lose though, just to see Thigpen play well would be great.

I really don't care if we win. I would like to see thiggy get a win, but like we've said before it's all about development, and the anticipation of Thigpen's next performance has really made Chiefs football interesting again.

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 08:09 AM
Saints will win, say, 38-33, but Thiggy will win converts with this game. 4 straight games with a high passer rating and a positive TD to INT ratio will seal the deal. Tyler's numbers will be close to this: 25-42 for 330 yds, 2 TDs and 1 INT. If/when we lose, it will be impossible to pin it on Tyler.

Advantage is clearly to the airborne Saints and Brees' record shattering year vs our some-guy-in-a-Chiefs-uniform secondary. But Thigpen will hurt the Saints and the jury will be coming in on Thigpen as a legit NFL starting QB.

Even if he does put up those #s it would be still be too early to say he's proven anything. He's gonna have to do next season too for me to be truely convinced. Not that I'm not totally behing the guy.

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 08:11 AM
I really don't care if we win. I would like to see thiggy get a win, but like we've said before it's all about development, and the anticipation of Thigpen's next performance has really made Chiefs football interesting again.

As much as we all rooted for Brodie Croyle, Cinderella Thigpen seems to be shattering all our expectations. Give credit to Chan "I'm not Herm" Gailey for getting the ball into the hands of his playmakers. Won't it be sweet if Tyler throws for 300 yds this Sunday and LJ runs for 150?

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 08:13 AM
Even if he does put up those #s it would be still be too early to say he's proven anything. He's gonna have to do next season too for me to be truely convinced. Not that I'm not totally behing the guy.

Honestly, I think as Chiefs fans we have been trained to think that.

I'm not comparing the two but Romo and Thigpen have similar backgrounds, So a good QB can come from anywhere. Maybe, just maybe, Thigpen has jumped at his chance to play and run with it.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 08:15 AM
Saints will win, say, 38-33, but Thiggy will win converts with this game. 4 straight games with a high passer rating and a positive TD to INT ratio will seal the deal. Tyler's numbers will be close to this: 25-42 for 330 yds, 2 TDs and 1 INT. If/when we lose, it will be impossible to pin it on Tyler.

Advantage is clearly to the airborne Saints and Brees' record shattering year vs our some-guy-in-a-Chiefs-uniform secondary. But Thigpen will hurt the Saints and the jury will be coming in on Thigpen as a legit NFL starting QB.

And thats the shit of it, if we didn't have a beat up defense we might stand a chance. Dorsey is beginning to come around and Flowers is a force outside, and then Flowers goes down.

I heard from a friend here that Thigpen has the most fantasy points in the last 2 weeks than any other QB in the NFL...is that right?!?!? Has anyone else heard that??

Hog Farmer
11-13-2008, 08:23 AM
As much as we all rooted for Brodie Croyle, Cinderella Thigpen seems to be shattering all our expectations. Give credit to Chan "I'm not Herm" Gailey for getting the ball into the hands of his playmakers. Won't it be sweet if Tyler throws for 300 yds this Sunday and LJ runs for 150?


As long as we lose.

Dartgod
11-13-2008, 08:27 AM
I really don't care if we win. I would like to see thiggy get a win, but like we've said before it's all about development, and the anticipation of Thigpen's next performance has really made Chiefs football interesting again.
This.

He has single-handedly saved the Chiefs season. Not win/losses, of course, but from a fans perspective now looking forward to the next game. He has made the Chiefs an exciting team again.

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 08:34 AM
This.

He has single-handedly saved the Chiefs season. Not win/losses, of course, but from a fans perspective now looking forward to the next game. He has made the Chiefs an exciting team again.

Exactly. We lost the last 3 games by 8 points total. We are a few defensive players being healthy from competing for a division title according to the competition in the league today.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 08:46 AM
Exactly. We lost the last 3 games by 8 points total. We are a few defensive players being healthy from competing for a division title according to the competition in the league today.

At least some are noticing this, even a local broadcaster said that the Chiefs are a 2 pt conversion, a dropped pass, and a couple bad calls away from being the division leader. Saying "the Chiefs should not be 1-8, they should be 5-4"

I'm assuming he means Pats, Donks, Jets, Bucs, and Chargers. Cause the rest were...well bad.

I don't know if I completely agree with him, but its nice to know that someone in the media doesn't think we are completely inept.

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 08:49 AM
At least some are noticing this, even a local broadcaster said that the Chiefs are a 2 pt conversion, a dropped pass, and a couple bad calls away from being the division leader. Saying "the Chiefs should not be 1-8, they should be 5-4"

I'm assuming he means Pats, Donks, Jets, Bucs, and Chargers. Cause the rest were...well bad.

I don't know if I completely agree with him, but its nice to know that someone in the media doesn't think we are completely inept.

We're not. We could win the AFCW in 2009.

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 09:03 AM
Honestly, I think as Chiefs fans we have been trained to think that.

I'm not comparing the two but Romo and Thigpen have similar backgrounds, So a good QB can come from anywhere. Maybe, just maybe, Thigpen has jumped at his chance to play and run with it.

I think it has more to do with the fact that there a lot of QBs who do well for a certain period of time. A season, a stretch of games, whatever, and then for some reason just fall off. I honestly think thiggy's got something special, but am trying not to get too excited about it until he keeps doing it.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 09:45 AM
I think it has more to do with the fact that there a lot of QBs who do well for a certain period of time. A season, a stretch of games, whatever, and then for some reason just fall off. I honestly think thiggy's got something special, but am trying not to get too excited about it until he keeps doing it.

*crosses fingers*

Me too.

RustShack
11-13-2008, 09:48 AM
Thigpen seems to play better on the road...

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 09:48 AM
*crosses fingers*

Me too.

I love that we went to the spread, and he will get to build up his confidence while he also gets plays from under center to bolster his experience. It's a win all the way around. I have to give some props to the staff for putting him position to excell.

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 10:00 AM
I love that we went to the spread, and he will get to build up his confidence while he also gets plays from under center to bolster his experience. It's a win all the way around. I have to give some props to the staff for putting him position to excell.

I like it too, they taylored the offense to his abilities and something clicked.

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 10:03 AM
I like it too, they taylored the offense to his abilities and something clicked.

Yeah, it's cool to see the staff do something right for a change.

Ultra Peanut
11-13-2008, 10:17 AM
this man is a sleeper cell and should be

KingPriest2
11-13-2008, 10:42 AM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>QBRat</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Comp</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Att</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Pct</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/A</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Int</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Rush</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Avg</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Sack</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>YdsL</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Fum</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>FumL</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Last 4 Games</TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>101.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>71</TD><TD class=yspscores>113</TD><TD class=yspscores>62.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>786</TD><TD class=yspscores>196.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD class=yspscores>89</TD><TD class=yspscores>22.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>7</TD><TD class=yspscores>39</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 7 (TEN)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>68.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>5</TD><TD class=yspscores>11</TD><TD class=yspscores>45.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>76</TD><TD class=yspscores>76.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD class=yspscores>21</TD><TD class=yspscores>21.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 8 (@NYJ)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>110.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>36</TD><TD class=yspscores>69.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>280</TD><TD class=yspscores>280.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD class=yspscores>20</TD><TD class=yspscores>20.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD class=yspscores>30</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 9 (TAM)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>89.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>14</TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>56.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>164</TD><TD class=yspscores>164.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD class=yspscores>22</TD><TD class=yspscores>22.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 10 (@SDG)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>108.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>27</TD><TD class=yspscores>41</TD><TD class=yspscores>65.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>266</TD><TD class=yspscores>266.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>26</TD><TD class=yspscores>26.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>13.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I don't think any QB in Chiefs history has started off this well, certainly not under these dire circumstances.

KCJohnny
:arrow:

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20081110/thumb.5c34e6ba47a0458fb073e8d43cb0d4a7.chiefs_chargers_football_cadp109.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8471/photos;_ylt=AqthXpy19GqaOJgyZj2aGN7.uLYF?slug=5c34e6ba47a0458fb073e8d43cb0d4a7.chiefs_chargers_footb all_cadp109) http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/51/thumbe.d978f222c5f779ef360a4cdac4585c6b/d978f222c5f779ef360a4cdac4585c6b-getty-81706939jg004_kansas_city_c.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8471/photos;_ylt=AoyJEMjycp0.fPcplPCvnDv.uLYF?slug=d978f222c5f779ef360a4cdac4585c6b-getty-81706939jg004_kansas_city_c) http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/10/thumbe.8ea3eee1ab7d2ec56324b5cbf926180e/8ea3eee1ab7d2ec56324b5cbf926180e-getty-81706939jg005_kansas_city_c.jpg (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/8471/photos;_ylt=AruIM4IS4uXGAbpTkQxbPf3.uLYF?slug=8ea3eee1ab7d2ec56324b5cbf926180e-getty-81706939jg005_kansas_city_c)

This (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5028404&postcount=56) is funny.

John Elway 1st year:
<TABLE class="w655px datatablecell" cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=datatabledatahead><TD rowSpan=2>Season</TD><TD rowSpan=2>Team</TD><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD colSpan=10>Passing</TD><TD colSpan=4>Rushing</TD><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=datatabledatahead><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>Comp</TD><TD>Att</TD><TD>Pct</TD><TD>Yds</TD><TD>Avg</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>Int</TD><TD>Sck</TD><TD>SckY</TD><TD>Rate</TD><TD>Att</TD><TD>Yds</TD><TD>Avg</TD><TD>TD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE class="w655px datatablecell" cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=over onmouseover="this.className='over'" onmouseout="this.className='rowAlt'"><TD>1983 </TD><TD>Denver Broncos (http://www.nfl.com/teams/denverbroncos/profile?team=DEN)</TD><TD>11 </TD><TD>-- </TD><TD>123</TD><TD>259</TD><TD>47.5</TD><TD>1,663</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>218</TD><TD>54.9</TD><TD>28



</TD><TD>146</TD><TD>5.2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


Regular Season Games Passing Rushing Fumbles

WK Game Date Opp Result G GS Comp Att Pct Yds Avg TD Int Sck SckY Rate Att Yds Avg TD FUM Lost

1 09/07 @ NE L 10-17 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
2 09/14 OAK L 8-23 1 0 14 33 42.4 151 4.6 1 1 3 29 54.0 1 6 6.0 0 1 0
3 09/21 @ ATL L 14-38 1 1 14 36 38.9 128 3.6 1 3 2 11 23.8 1 18 18.0 0 1 0
4 09/28 DEN W 33-19 0 0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
5 10/05 @ CAR L 0-34 1 0 5 10 50.0 37 3.7 0 0 1 15 59.2 4 16 4.0 0 -- --
6 Bye -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- --
7 10/19 TEN L 10-34 1 0 5 11 45.5 76 6.9 0 0 1 6 68.8 3 21 7.0 1 -- --
8 10/26 @ NYJ L 24-28 1 1 25 36 69.4 280 7.8 2 0 4 30 110.9 4 20 5.0 0 -- --
9 11/02 TB L 27-30 1 1 14 25 56.0 164 6.6 1 0 1 0 89.4 6 22 3.7 0 -- --
10 11/09 @ SD L 19-20 1 1 27 41 65.9 266 6.5 3 0 1 3 108.4 2 26 13.0 0 -- --
TOTAL 7 4 104 192 54.2 1,102 5.7 8 4 13 94 76.3 21 129 6.1 1 2 0

He is doing awesome but you are not including the entire season starting out he is at 76.9

Brock
11-13-2008, 10:51 AM
He is doing awesome but you are not including the entire season starting out he is at 76.9

That's why he said "over the last 4 games".:spock:

RustShack
11-13-2008, 10:54 AM
He is doing awesome but you are not including the entire season starting out he is at 76.9

I'm pretty sure the whole point is how much hes improved... before last weekends game his four game average was like 94.something.

Micjones
11-13-2008, 11:36 AM
Two of the last three games he had a QB Rating well over 100.
Improving nicely.

blueballs
11-13-2008, 11:49 AM
people are going to get to high on him
then come crashing down on him like a ton of bricks if he hits a bad patch
temper that man crush

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 11:53 AM
people are going to get to high on him
then come crashing down on him like a ton of bricks if he hits a bad patch
temper that man crush

Yeah, that's why I don't want to get too high in him. Watch, as soon as he has a bad game, people are going to be saying "there's the real thiggy, he was a fluke" when in actuality if he has abad game, it's really no big deal, and should be expected. We shouldn't read too much into it, just like he hasn'r been lighting up for long enough to get too excited. We need a faily large body of work to actually know what we've got, but it is promising.

KingPriest2
11-13-2008, 12:16 PM
That's why he said "over the last 4 games".:spock:

But he also said starting out as well.

Dylan
11-13-2008, 01:05 PM
can we borrow him?


that's great!

SPATCH
11-13-2008, 01:08 PM
can we borrow him?


that's great!

no

... and wtf?

Von Dumbass
11-13-2008, 02:02 PM
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspdetailttl align=left></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>G</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>QBRat</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Comp</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Att</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Pct</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/A</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Int</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Rush</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Yds</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Y/G</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Avg</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>TD</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Sack</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>YdsL</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>Fum</TD><TD class=yspdetailttl>FumL</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Last 4 Games</TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>101.1</TD><TD class=yspscores>71</TD><TD class=yspscores>113</TD><TD class=yspscores>62.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>786</TD><TD class=yspscores>196.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>15</TD><TD class=yspscores>89</TD><TD class=yspscores>22.3</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>7</TD><TD class=yspscores>39</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 7 (TEN)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>68.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>5</TD><TD class=yspscores>11</TD><TD class=yspscores>45.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>76</TD><TD class=yspscores>76.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD class=yspscores>21</TD><TD class=yspscores>21.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 8 (@NYJ)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>110.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>36</TD><TD class=yspscores>69.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>280</TD><TD class=yspscores>280.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>7.8</TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD class=yspscores>20</TD><TD class=yspscores>20.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>5.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>4</TD><TD class=yspscores>30</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 9 (TAM)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>89.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>14</TD><TD class=yspscores>25</TD><TD class=yspscores>56.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>164</TD><TD class=yspscores>164.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.6</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>6</TD><TD class=yspscores>22</TD><TD class=yspscores>22.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>3.7</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1 align=right height=16><TD class=yspscores align=left>Week 10 (@SDG)</TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>108.4</TD><TD class=yspscores>27</TD><TD class=yspscores>41</TD><TD class=yspscores>65.9</TD><TD class=yspscores>266</TD><TD class=yspscores>266.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>6.5</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>2</TD><TD class=yspscores>26</TD><TD class=yspscores>26.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>13.0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>1</TD><TD class=yspscores>3</TD><TD></TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD><TD class=yspscores>0</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

I don't think any QB in Chiefs history has started off this well, certainly not under these dire circumstances.

KCJohnny
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This (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5028404&postcount=56) is funny.

John Elway 1st year:
<TABLE class="w655px datatablecell" cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=datatabledatahead><TD rowSpan=2>Season</TD><TD rowSpan=2>Team</TD><TD colSpan=2></TD><TD colSpan=10>Passing</TD><TD colSpan=4>Rushing</TD><TD colSpan=2></TD></TR><TR class=datatabledatahead><TD>G</TD><TD>GS</TD><TD>Comp</TD><TD>Att</TD><TD>Pct</TD><TD>Yds</TD><TD>Avg</TD><TD>TD</TD><TD>Int</TD><TD>Sck</TD><TD>SckY</TD><TD>Rate</TD><TD>Att</TD><TD>Yds</TD><TD>Avg</TD><TD>TD</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

<TABLE class="w655px datatablecell" cellSpacing=0><TBODY><TR class=over onmouseover="this.className='over'" onmouseout="this.className='rowAlt'"><TD>1983 </TD><TD>Denver Broncos (http://www.nfl.com/teams/denverbroncos/profile?team=DEN)</TD><TD>11 </TD><TD>-- </TD><TD>123</TD><TD>259</TD><TD>47.5</TD><TD>1,663</TD><TD>6.4</TD><TD>7</TD><TD>14</TD><TD>28</TD><TD>218</TD><TD>54.9</TD><TD>28



</TD><TD>146</TD><TD>5.2</TD><TD>1</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

Elway went 9-7 his rookie year.

MIAdragon
11-13-2008, 02:11 PM
Elway went 9-7 his rookie year.

He also had a top 10 D to back him up.....

bobbything
11-13-2008, 02:23 PM
Too bad our defense is teh suque.

Mizzou_8541
11-13-2008, 02:31 PM
only thing I'm scared about is Brees and his arm. He could torch our D without Flowers and co not playing.

Even if we do lose though, just to see Thigpen play well would be great.

I thought Flowers was questionable?

beach tribe
11-13-2008, 02:41 PM
He also had a top 10 D to back him up.....

Didn't you know that the QB is solely respnsible for wins, and losses? Jeez.

MIAdragon
11-13-2008, 02:52 PM
Didn't you know that the QB is solely respnsible for wins, and losses? Jeez.

LMAO

Reerun_KC
11-13-2008, 02:54 PM
Didn't you know that the QB is solely respnsible for wins, and losses? Jeez.

That was the biggest knock against Croyle vs Huard fans... Well other than Croyle was broke all the time...

PhillyChiefFan
11-13-2008, 03:43 PM
I thought Flowers was questionable?

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/football/story/887866.html

CHIEFS: DNP: CB Brandon Flowers (thigh), DE Tamba Hali (ankle), LB Derrick Johnson (thigh), G Adrian Jones (ankle), LB Patrick Thomas (thigh). LIMITED: RB Jamaal Charles (ankle), S Jarrad Page (groin), CB Patrick Surtain (quadricep). FULL: DE Turk McBride (shoulder).

I hope he is, I heard by another fan that he was out. Yahoo sports lists him as DNP also, so you may be right.

Let's hope, we need all the help we can get going against the #1 offense in the country.

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 05:34 PM
Elway went 9-7 his rookie year.

The Elway comparison was based on this (http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5028404&postcount=56).

Mizzou_8541
11-13-2008, 06:16 PM
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/football/story/887866.html

CHIEFS: DNP: CB Brandon Flowers (thigh), DE Tamba Hali (ankle), LB Derrick Johnson (thigh), G Adrian Jones (ankle), LB Patrick Thomas (thigh). LIMITED: RB Jamaal Charles (ankle), S Jarrad Page (groin), CB Patrick Surtain (quadricep). FULL: DE Turk McBride (shoulder).

I hope he is, I heard by another fan that he was out. Yahoo sports lists him as DNP also, so you may be right.

Let's hope, we need all the help we can get going against the #1 offense in the country.

Yikes. Ok, thanks. Not sure what we will do without Adrian Jones either...

KCJohnny
11-13-2008, 08:16 PM
Yeah, that's why I don't want to get too high in him. Watch, as soon as he has a bad game, people are going to be saying "there's the real thiggy, he was a fluke" when in actuality if he has abad game, it's really no big deal, and should be expected. We shouldn't read too much into it, just like he hasn'r been lighting up for long enough to get too excited. We need a faily large body of work to actually know what we've got, but it is promising.

Until then, we have a very impressive string of performances that suggest more than a diamond in the rough. Having superior weapons no doubt helps (TG, Bradley, Bowe, our RBs). But I smell Chan Gailey at work in these improvements.

Reerun_KC
11-13-2008, 08:20 PM
Until then, we have a very impressive string of performances that suggest more than a diamond in the rough. Having superior weapons no doubt helps (TG, Bradley, Bowe, our RBs). But I smell Chan Gailey at work in these improvements.

Very True, the thought of Gailey taking control of this offense is very very exciting as a fan...

Cornstock
11-13-2008, 08:58 PM
Yikes. Ok, thanks. Not sure what we will do without Adrian Jones either...

Does that mean Barry Richardson gets the thumbs up?

KCJohnny
11-14-2008, 07:41 AM
Very True, the thought of Gailey taking control of this offense is very very exciting as a fan...

If the current trend continues, 2009 could be a very interesting campaign. Thiggy with a year under his belt could be the real thing.

PhillyChiefFan
11-14-2008, 07:46 AM
If the current trend continues, 2009 could be a very interesting campaign. Thiggy with a year under his belt could be the real thing.

Can't wait for April. Get Thiggy some protection and help/depth on D, might have ourselves a ball club! :D

KCJohnny
11-14-2008, 07:49 AM
Can't wait for April. Get Thiggy some protection and help/depth on D, might have ourselves a ball club! :D

The best thing that could happen to this team is that Thigpen is pronounced the 2009 starting QB and we draft desperately needed LBs and a DE.

PhillyChiefFan
11-14-2008, 07:52 AM
The best thing that could happen to this team is that Thigpen is pronounced the 2009 starting QB and we draft desperately needed LBs and a DE.

I would love it. Who would you like to see taken with first pick assuming we draft 4th-5th position?

KCJohnny
11-14-2008, 07:56 AM
I would love it. Who would you like to see taken with first pick assuming we draft 4th-5th position?

Oh, I am not a big college football fan. I just hope they scout well and they may have to take the best player available, just not a QB. We still have Quinn Gray in case of emergency.

I have seen the Samoan guy who plays for USC - he looks terrific - but I'd have to really study to see who is out there. I usually don't pay much attention to the draft until the NFL season is ended.

Who would you like to see drafted? Any faves?

PhillyChiefFan
11-14-2008, 08:10 AM
Oh, I am not a big college football fan. I just hope they scout well and they may have to take the best player available, just not a QB. We still have Quinn Gray in case of emergency.

I have seen the Samoan guy who plays for USC - he looks terrific - but I'd have to really study to see who is out there. I usually don't pay much attention to the draft until the NFL season is ended.

Who would you like to see drafted? Any faves?

I really like Rey Maualuga (USC MLB) but would be very happy with Brian Orakpo ( TEX DE), Michael Johnson ( GT DE), or Everett Brown (FSU DE).

I would love to see us take
1. Orakpo
2. Brandon Spikes (ILB FLA)

Or:
1. Maualuga
2. Tyson Jackson IF he is there if not Maurice Evans (DE PSU)

PhillyChiefFan
11-14-2008, 08:12 AM
Either way, if we shore up our defense and provide another weapon for Thiggy's arm and of course a RT to replace McIntosh, I think we would have a solid draft that could load the Chiefs for years to come.

FringeNC
11-14-2008, 08:19 AM
The best thing that could happen to this team is that Thigpen is pronounced the 2009 starting QB and we draft desperately needed LBs and a DE.

The best thing that could happen is that Thigpen continues to play at this level the rest of the season, and pronouncement is unnecessary.

And I am fairly confident Thipgen will.

KCJohnny
11-14-2008, 08:25 AM
The best thing that could happen is that Thigpen continues to play at this level the rest of the season, and pronouncement is unnecessary.

And I am fairly confident Thipgen will.

I think we're saying the same thing: If Tyler emerges as the guy we can spend our top '09 picks where we need the most help.

PhillyChiefFan
11-14-2008, 08:26 AM
The best thing that could happen is that Thigpen continues to play at this level the rest of the season, and pronouncement is unnecessary.

And I am fairly confident Thipgen will.

Keep the offense simple for now, and work with what we have. It's working and more importantly HE'S working.

Back him up with Harrell or Cantwell (assuming Freeman doesn't declare), and get him another deep threat.

QB - Thigpen, Gray, Harrell
RB - Johnson (?), Charles, Savage
WR - DBowe, Bradley, D. Williams/B. Robiskie
TE - Gonzo, Cottam

:D

KCJohnny
11-14-2008, 09:03 AM
Keep the offense simple for now, and work with what we have. It's working and more importantly HE'S working.

Back him up with Harrell or Cantwell (assuming Freeman doesn't declare), and get him another deep threat.

QB - Thigpen, Gray, Harrell
RB - Johnson (?), Charles, Savage
WR - DBowe, Bradley, D. Williams/B. Robiskie
TE - Gonzo, Cottam

:D

I'll take that lineup anyday!