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MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 08:00 AM
http://www.discounttankless.net/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Product_Code=PALOMA15&Category_Code=Tankless_All_Gas&Store_Code=1
anyone installed one of these. whats class "B" venting? good? bad?

have the option to pick one up dirt cheap. lil help.
http://www.discounttankless.net/Merchant2/graphics/00000001/ph24_med.jpg

StcChief
11-14-2008, 08:19 AM
runs on LP/Nat Gas. B Vent. If you have an existing conventional water heater. Just use that flue pipe.

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 09:21 AM
dont understand what this means in the brochure. is this at the same time? once per day?

"Expect winter performance of 1 to 2 full showers, depending on your location, with a 1-hour bath-filling capability of more than 190 gallons."

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2008, 09:24 AM
be aware that many tankless water heaters are not good for low-flow applications. They will kick on to fill the bath or shower, but if you are just running the tap to brush your teeth or fill a pot, you have to turn the faucet on full blast to kick in the heater.

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 09:25 AM
be aware that many tankless water heaters are not good for low-flow applications. They will kick on to fill the bath or shower, but if you are just running the tap to brush your teeth or fill a pot, you have to turn the faucet on full blast to kick in the heater.

what about the one im lookin at?

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2008, 09:27 AM
what about the one im lookin at?

dunno, I don't see where they list the gpm (gallons per minute) required to activate the heater

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2008, 09:29 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_heater#Disadvantages

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 09:31 AM
dunno, I don't see where they list the gpm (gallons per minute) required to activate the heater


http://www.palomawaterheaters.com/ph24.html

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2008, 09:36 AM
http://www.palomawaterheaters.com/ph24.html

.52gpm, thats better than many I've seen.

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 09:41 AM
.52gpm, thats better than many I've seen.

deal is the hot water wont have to travel more than 15 ft. the kitchen sink,bathroom tub / shower,sink and basement shower are all within this range. old farm house ect.

i can pick one up for 150$ problem i see is the guy told me it has a 7in went pipe and the vent i have to my chimney is 3 in. but i have a furnace vent im not useing cause i bought a badass wood stove.
so the feasibility that i could possibly connect it through that vent is decent.

L.A. Chieffan
11-14-2008, 10:03 AM
I've installed a couple of these in rural areas and their easy. Work very well too for their size

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 10:19 AM
I've installed a couple of these in rural areas and their easy. Work very well too for their size

pros / cons that havent been discussed.

StcChief
11-14-2008, 10:26 AM
for $150 bucks do it.... a normal 40 gallon conventional is that much, and the space required etc.

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 10:32 AM
for $150 bucks do it.... a normal 40 gallon conventional is that much, and the space required etc.


ya im gonna pull the trigger on it. but im gonna install it myself.

Brock
11-14-2008, 10:33 AM
dont understand what this means in the brochure. is this at the same time? once per day?

"Expect winter performance of 1 to 2 full showers, depending on your location, with a 1-hour bath-filling capability of more than 190 gallons."

I believe they're talking at the same time there.

vailpass
11-14-2008, 10:36 AM
My father-in-law has tankless at his house and loves it. His house is approx. 5,000 sq. ft., don't know the specifics of his set up but know he paid around $2k to have it put in.
Says he has hot water on demand.

ferrarispider95
11-14-2008, 11:42 AM
I just installed one in a house that I am remodeling. I went with electric, it takes some serious juice to run it, but seems to work pretty well.

I know a consideration on well they work is the temp of your incoming water. Being in Springfield, you should be alright.

mikeyis4dcats.
11-14-2008, 11:56 AM
ya im gonna pull the trigger on it. but im gonna install it myself.

based on your lack of knowledge exhibited here, I'd recommend you have it installed

MOhillbilly
11-14-2008, 02:32 PM
based on your lack of knowledge exhibited here, I'd recommend you have it installed

i like a good fire.

Stewie
11-14-2008, 02:43 PM
I didn't read that model's specs, but a good option for a gas model is that it will ignite using water pressure and not electricity. Nothing sucks worse than a freezing cold shower when the power is out.

NCarlsCorner2
11-14-2008, 03:28 PM
deal is the hot water wont have to travel more than 15 ft. the kitchen sink,bathroom tub / shower,sink and basement shower are all within this range. old farm house ect.

i can pick one up for 150$ problem i see is the guy told me it has a 7in went pipe and the vent i have to my chimney is 3 in. but i have a furnace vent im not useing cause i bought a badass wood stove.
so the feasibility that i could possibly connect it through that vent is decent.

A tankless water heater has a special PVC vent pipe that goes out the side of the house or through the roof, ideally out the side of the house because the pipe cost about $100 a foot, I can only speak for the Rinnai tankless water heater.

aturnis
11-14-2008, 04:27 PM
i can pick one up for 150$.

Just one?

Mr. Flopnuts
11-14-2008, 05:20 PM
I don't know anything about these, but my boss just said he got a tankless water heater called an On Demand Water heater. Is it like that? He absolutely fucking loves the thing.

max sleeper
11-14-2008, 05:35 PM
We put and electric tankless in our house 1100sqft. We love it and fill a whirlpool tub all the time. If your are having problems with the water having to travel to the kitchen or bath sink we were gonna put a little 2 gallon on demand under the sink. But we did not have to. It takes 3 40amp breakers and the our electric bill has never been above $65 a month. They are great! I work at a home design center and try to push them. Go Chiefs!

RNR
11-14-2008, 05:56 PM
Rep for a very cool avatar!