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Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 11:57 AM
http://kansascity.royals.mlb.com/news/press_releases/press_release.jsp?ymd=20081114&content_id=3679783&vkey=pr_kc&fext=.jsp&c_id=kc

Royals name Mike Arbuckle senior advisor to the general manager/scouting and player development
11/14/2008 11:53 AM ET
MLB.com

KANSAS CITY -- The Kansas City Royals today named Mike Arbuckle the Senior Advisor to the General Manager/Scouting and Player Development. Arbuckle joins the Royals after spending 16 successful seasons in the Philadelphia Phillies organization, culminating with a World Series Championship last month.

"We are extremely delighted that Mike has decided to join our organization," said Dayton Moore, Royals' Senior Vice President of Baseball Operations and General Manager. "He has a great eye for talent and a proven track record in building a championship-caliber club. His experience in the game will be a tremendous asset to all aspects of Baseball Operations as we continue to work toward building a championship club."

"I'm really looking forward to working with everyone in the Kansas City organization," said Arbuckle, who makes his home in nearby Liberty, Mo. "I have a tremendous amount of respect for Dayton Moore, Trey Hillman, Dean Taylor and numerous other people in the organization I know things are moving forward here with the Royals and I'm anxious to lend what I can to the process."

Arbuckle wrapped up his 30th season in professional baseball in 2008. He joined the Phillies following the 1992 season as Director of Scouting before adding responsibilities of player development in 2000. He was named the Phillies Assistant GM/Scouting and Player Development after the 2001 season, helping build the franchise to its first World Series title since 1980. Under Arbuckle, the Phillies drafted several key components of the 2008 champs, including outfielder Pat Burrell, Ryan Howard, Ryan Madson, Brett Myers, Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley and World Series MVP Cole Hamels.

Prior to joining the Phillies in 1992, Arbuckle served as a scout and cross-checker with the Atlanta Braves from late 1980 through the 1992 season, where he took part in building the winning foundation with Atlanta. His professional baseball career began in 1979 as an associate scout with Philadelphia.

Born in Trenton, Mo., Arbuckle was originally drafted by the St. Louis Cardinals as a left-handed pitcher in 1969, but did not sign before tearing his rotator cuff the following year. He coached at the high school, junior college and college levels before becoming a scout. Arbuckle, a graduate of Northwest Missouri State University with a Bachelor of Science degree in education, also has a Master's from the University of South Alabama. He and his wife, Martha, live in Liberty and have two daughters, Shelly and Kellie, and four grandchildren, Bethni, Austin, Katey and Emma.

This is huge news for the Royals future, and probably a GM candidate if Moore were to ever get fired. Great news and good job Moore for getting him!

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 11:58 AM
An article from a Philadelphia newspaper regarding Arbuckle...
http://www.examiner.com/x-1164-Philadelphia-Phillies-Examiner~y2008m11d3-The-loss-of-Mike-Arbuckle-is-Phillies-bigest-offseason-flub

The loss of Mike Arbuckle is Phillies biggest offseason flub
Nov 3rd 2008
by Patrick Gallen, Philadelphia Phillies Examiner

Mike Arbuckle is leaving the Phils.
On Monday, the Philadelphia Phillies announced their new General Manager, the man who would take over for the legendary Pat Gillick. Ruben Amaro Jr., just 43, is the new GM for the World Champion Phillies, filling in for Gillick who has won three titles in that position.

It’s a feel good story for Amaro, who in 1980 was a batboy, winning a championship with the team in quite a different capacity. He now gets to take over for the top franchise in baseball and will have a busy first off-season ahead of him as players like Ryan Howard and Cole Hamels look for big-time raises and Pat Burrell becomes a free agent.

With the promotion of Amaro, an assistant GM for 10 seasons with the Phils, Mike Arbuckle will be leaving the team. Arbuckle, an assistant General Manager himself, was also considered for the position before the Phillies’ decision to go with Amaro.

Arbuckle has been in baseball since 1979, when he entered the game as a scout. In 1992 he took over as the Phillies Director of Scouting and just two years later was promoted to assistant GM. One of the main cogs behind this championship season, Arbuckle is responsible for drafting Howard, Hamels and Burrell along with Jimmy Rollins, Chase Utley, Ryan Madson, and Brett Myers.

He is from the Kansas City area, and there are rumors around the league that he may join the Royals in some capacity. His departure would be huge, and may even be the biggest loss of the season. This guy has been with the Phillies for nearly two decades and knows the Phillies system inside and out. Amaro himself has been with the franchise for a while too, but he is not as seasoned as Arbuckle.

Baseball America had Arbuckle ranked as the third best GM prospect in 2003. Five years have passed since then and Arbuckle is still an assistant, so its understandable that he wants his shot at losing the assistant moniker.

While it was great to see Amaro’s promotion, it is just as alarming to see Arbuckle leave like this. He perhaps should have been the leading candidate, but the Phils brass chose to move along with younger blood. Keep an eye on Arbuckle’s whereabouts during the off-season. Just a week removed from a title, the Phillies are undergoing their first bout with in-house turmoil.

eazyb81
11-14-2008, 12:09 PM
Great news, and what a lucky break for the Royals that he's from Liberty.

This is another reason I would prefer that we don't sign a Type A free agent, as I'd like to keep as many of our draft picks as possible. Building through the draft instead of free agency is how we will turn this ship around.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:12 PM
Great news, and what a lucky break for the Royals that he's from Liberty.

Agreed...

I just hope he sticks around, this guy is a hot GM candidate, in 2003 DM was #1 and he Mike was #3....this guy has to stay here, esp with his drafting history. Stupid move by the Phillies is our gain.

BigChiefFan
11-14-2008, 12:15 PM
Good news. I didn't know he was a resident of Liberty.

DeezNutz
11-14-2008, 12:15 PM
Terrible move.

There's no way this organization needs even more talented folks in the front office. We risk becoming competitive more quickly.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:16 PM
Great news, and what a lucky break for the Royals that he's from Liberty.

This is another reason I would prefer that we don't sign a Type A free agent, as I'd like to keep as many of our draft picks as possible. Building through the draft instead of free agency is how we will turn this ship around.

I know the Royals are interested in Furcal since he isn't a type A free agent. Also they are interested in Ibanez but probably won't sign him cause they don't want to give him a big deal and give up a type B free agent prospect...

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:16 PM
Terrible move.

There's no way this organization needs even more talented folks in the front office. We risk becoming competitive more quickly.

ROFL

We are real lucky he is from here for sure

sedated
11-14-2008, 12:17 PM
I know the Royals are interested in Furcal since he isn't a type A free agent.

your definition of type A must be different than everyone else's. He's easily in the top 10 free agents.

DeezNutz
11-14-2008, 12:17 PM
ROFL

We are real lucky he is from here for sure

The biggest question for me is whether or not he'll push for Gload to play every day.

If he does this, I'm on board.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:18 PM
The biggest question for me is whether or not he'll push for Gload to play every day.

If he does this, I'm on board.

ROFL

Our drafts should be much better with this guy around, we essentially have 2 gms now and im suprised the phillies didn't name him GM

FringeNC
11-14-2008, 12:20 PM
Well, Philly does have a Moneyball offense. Hopefully, he is proponent of OBP and can educate Moore as to the importance of it.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:21 PM
your definition of type A must be different than everyone else's. He's easily in the top 10 free agents.

I agree on that but this is what i read...i assume it's correct, not sure why that's the case though

mlbtraderumors.com
Ibanez May Be Too Pricey For Royals
By Tim Dierkes [November 14 at 11:03am CST]

According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, Royals officials view Raul Ibanez as the best free agent fit for them. However, they're not likely to give him a three-year deal in the $10-12MM range. They're also reluctant to surrender their second-round pick to the Mariners.

Dutton says the Royals are "taking a hard look" at Rafael Furcal, who is the best available shortstop and doesn't cost a draft pick. However, Dutton doesn't see the Royals as the high bidder for Furcal either. The Giants, A's, and Braves are eyeing Furcal, among others. Dutton sees the Royals adding a cheaper free agent, someone of the Nick Punto/David Eckstein variety.

Also on the Royals front, Jesse Spector talks to GM Dayton Moore. Moore denied reports that he's down on Billy Butler.

DeezNutz
11-14-2008, 12:22 PM
ROFL

Our drafts should be much better with this guy around, we essentially have 2 gms now and im suprised the phillies didn't name him GM

If this team keeps pumping a ton of money into the draft and then re-signing its players, we could have something really special for a long time.

We need to see the organization make a commitment to the latter, however. Hope this starts with a big, fat check to Greinke.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:23 PM
If this team keeps pumping a ton of money into the draft and then re-signing its players, we could have something really special for a long time.

We need to see the organization make a commitment to the latter, however. Hope this starts with a big, fat check to Greinke.

I really think we'll make a huge offer to him, but i could see his loopy ass rejecting it. In that case they better trade him for a huge haul or get the draft picks. I hope he stays personally.

DeezNutz
11-14-2008, 12:24 PM
I agree on that but this is what i read...

mlbtraderumors.com
Ibanez May Be Too Pricey For Royals
By Tim Dierkes [November 14 at 11:03am CST]

According to Bob Dutton of the Kansas City Star, Royals officials view Raul Ibanez as the best free agent fit for them. However, they're not likely to give him a three-year deal in the $10-12MM range. They're also reluctant to surrender their second-round pick to the Mariners.

Dutton says the Royals are "taking a hard look" at Rafael Furcal, who is the best available shortstop and doesn't cost a draft pick. However, Dutton doesn't see the Royals as the high bidder for Furcal either. The Giants, A's, and Braves are eyeing Furcal, among others. Dutton sees the Royals adding a cheaper free agent, someone of the Nick Punto/David Eckstein variety.

Also on the Royals front, Jesse Spector talks to GM Dayton Moore. Moore denied reports that he's down on Billy Butler.

Yeah, giving up a draft pick for an older player doesn't seem like a wise approach. Good to hear. The money for Ibanez, however, is (or should be) a non-issue.

DeezNutz
11-14-2008, 12:26 PM
I really think we'll make a huge offer to him, but i could see his loopy ass rejecting it. In that case they better trade him for a huge haul or get the draft picks. I hope he stays personally.

His interview from the other day, 810, made it sound like he understands he's about to back up the Brinks truck. In all honesty, the deal needs to happen this winter because he's only going to get more expensive next season.

Dude is young, relatively injury free, has a consistent delivery, and has the ability to get the swing and miss. He's very much a cornerstone-type player.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 12:30 PM
His interview from the other day, 810, made it sound like he understands he's about to back up the Brinks truck. In all honesty, the deal needs to happen this winter because he's only going to get more expensive next season.

Dude is young, relatively injury free, has a consistent delivery, and has the ability to get the swing and miss. He's very much a cornerstone-type player.

Agreed...i hope we can get it done. I like the future of this team, esp adding more front office talent. Grienke would be a huge step though, losing him may slow us down, but it depends on what we'd get back. I hated the haul that Holliday got so i'd hope Zack would get more if we had to since he is a pitcher.

Demonpenz
11-14-2008, 12:33 PM
ibanez would be in seattle KC Seattle Kc in his career

JASONSAUTO
11-14-2008, 12:39 PM
Agreed...i hope we can get it done. I like the future of this team, esp adding more front office talent. Grienke would be a huge step though, losing him may slow us down, but it depends on what we'd get back. I hated the haul that Holliday got so i'd hope Zack would get more if we had to since he is a pitcher.

im hoping that greinke realizes that if he were to go to NY of LA or just about any other big city the media would probably KILL him. KC media seems to go a little easier on our players than in some other markets. Fans too, can you imagine what they would have done in NY when he had the mental issues?

Ultra Peanut
11-14-2008, 12:39 PM
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Fish
11-14-2008, 01:30 PM
This is great. Royals are shaping up nicely this offseason. Come on spring............

Demonpenz
11-14-2008, 01:35 PM
GARFIELD!??!?!?!??!!

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 01:49 PM
GARFIELD!??!?!?!??!!

Last name Arbuckle, as in John Arbuckle from garfieldROFL

sedated
11-14-2008, 01:53 PM
I agree on that but this is what i read...i assume it's correct, not sure why that's the case though

I guess I need to understand what the definition of "Type A" means before I open my fat mouth.

Sure-Oz
11-14-2008, 01:55 PM
I guess I need to understand what the definition of "Type A" means before I open my fat mouth.

ROFL it's all good, i assumed that as well, not sure what the rules are either

Demonpenz
11-14-2008, 02:18 PM
Last name Arbuckle, as in John Arbuckle from garfieldROFL

GARFIELD

Coach
11-14-2008, 02:20 PM
Almost 2 pages, and not a single one of this:

Print em!

Mizzou_8541
11-14-2008, 02:27 PM
Terrible move.

There's no way this organization needs even more talented folks in the front office. We risk becoming competitive more quickly.

ROFL Nice.

Ultra Peanut
11-14-2008, 10:38 PM
GARFIELDBilly Butler HATES Mondays.

bango
11-14-2008, 11:19 PM
Billy Butler HATES Mondays.

But does he like lasagna?

Kyle DeLexus
11-14-2008, 11:37 PM
But does he like lasagna?

Have you seen Billy? He likes EVERYTHING

Valiant
11-15-2008, 12:05 AM
Great news, and what a lucky break for the Royals that he's from Liberty.

This is another reason I would prefer that we don't sign a Type A free agent, as I'd like to keep as many of our draft picks as possible. Building through the draft instead of free agency is how we will turn this ship around.

Sans CC Sabathia