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royr17
12-05-2008, 08:12 AM
You guys tell me what you think.


The 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Draft

1st Round
a. DE/OLB George Selvie, (Acquired in trade down with Buffalo)

2nd Round
a. OC Alex Mack, California
b. RB Rashad Jennings, Liberty (Acquired in trading Tony Gonzalez to Green Bay)

3rd Round
a. OT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma (Acquired in trading Larry Johnson to Cincinatti)
b. WR Demetrius Byrd, LSU
c. MLB Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia (Acquired in trade down with Buffalo)

4th Round
a. TE Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss

5th Round
a. OG Anthony Parker, Tennessee (Acquired in trading Larry Johnson to Cincinatti)
b. SS Courtney Greene, Rutgers

6th Round
a. CB Ryan Palmer, Texas

7th Round
a. QB Chase Daniel, Missouri
b. CB Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford (Acquired in trading Ryan Sims to Tampa Bay)

DeezNutz
12-05-2008, 08:20 AM
Nice effort. Now, prepare to duck.

58-4ever
12-05-2008, 08:22 AM
In love with the SEC much?

58-4ever
12-05-2008, 08:22 AM
And Chase Daniel? that's essentially another James Killian pick.

58-4ever
12-05-2008, 08:23 AM
I would punch myself in the nuts if this draft happens.

DeezNutz
12-05-2008, 08:25 AM
And Chase Daniel? that's essentially another James Killian pick.

Without the upside.

royr17
12-05-2008, 08:26 AM
hey i was just trying. considering it a failed attempt.

DaKCMan AP
12-05-2008, 08:27 AM
In love with the SEC much?

You realize there are just as many big xii players as those from the SEC?

58-4ever
12-05-2008, 08:28 AM
hey i was just trying. considering it a failed attempt.

Hey, you have 5 more months to revise! :D

Pestilence
12-05-2008, 08:28 AM
I'll accept your mock draft if you can explain to me why Buffalo traded up. What player did they just have to have?

DaKCMan AP
12-05-2008, 08:29 AM
If we trade out of the top 5 just to get Selvie and Ellerbe then we got ripped off. Also, Demetrius Byrd is garbage.

58-4ever
12-05-2008, 08:29 AM
You realize there are just as many big xii players as those from the SEC?

Yeah, two of the big 12 players being in the 6th and 7th round. Settle down, you and I will have plenty to argue about between Saturday and January 8th!

DeezNutz
12-05-2008, 08:29 AM
hey i was just trying. considering it a failed attempt.

You could post a mock listing nothing but future HOF's on this forum, and it would still get flamed.

royr17
12-05-2008, 08:31 AM
Hey, you have 5 more months to revise! :D

Naw this is my first and final attempt, not any good at doing mock drafts.

Deberg_1990
12-05-2008, 08:31 AM
Chase Daniel we wont have to waste a draft pick on.

He will be available as a free agent after the draft.

CoMoChief
12-05-2008, 09:33 AM
2nd round is too high to be drafting a center IMO.

OnTheWarpath58
12-05-2008, 09:44 AM
2nd round is too high to be drafting a center IMO.

Then you haven't seen Alex Mack play.

He probably won't even be there when we pick in the 2nd - he'll go in the 1st.

Best prospect at center since Matt Birk.

royr17
12-05-2008, 09:47 AM
2nd round is too high to be drafting a center IMO.

Why dont you go tell Tim Grunhard that then.

royr17
12-05-2008, 09:49 AM
Rashad Jennings looks as if he could be a pretty good Running Back. Got good size. 6'1 230 lbs. runs a 4.45 40 yard dash time. And he has been pretty productive at Liberty.

CoMoChief
12-05-2008, 09:49 AM
Then you haven't seen Alex Mack play.

He probably won't even be there when we pick in the 2nd - he'll go in the 1st.

Best prospect at center since Matt Birk.

Matt Birk was a 6th rd pick out of Harvard.

CoMoChief
12-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Why dont you go tell Tim Grunhard that then.

We don't have a million picks this season like last year.

There are more glaring needs that this team needs besides a fuckin Center.

OnTheWarpath58
12-05-2008, 09:51 AM
Matt Birk was a 6th rd pick out of Harvard.

Yes, and what has he turned into?

(Did you honestly not know what I was implying, or were you just looking to be a smartass?)

Pestilence
12-05-2008, 09:54 AM
We don't have a million picks this season like last year.

There are more glaring needs that this team needs besides a fuckin Center.

You do realize that if we grab Mack in the 2nd that we can put him at C and move Niswanger to RG......filling two holes with one pick.

royr17
12-05-2008, 09:56 AM
Rashad Jennings Career Stats

RUSHING
ATTEMPTS YARDS TOUCHDOWNS AVG
719 4,044 43 5.6 YPC

RECEIVING
RECEPTIONS YARDS TOUCHDOWNS AVG
48 557 4 11.6 YPC

royr17
12-05-2008, 09:58 AM
Rashad Jennings Scouting Report

Projected Draft Position

by FFToolbox Writers

Position: RB

School & Year/Status: Liberty - Senior

Height & Weight: 6'1 - 232 lbs.

Ranked #96 on our Top 100 Prospects Board

2009 NFL Draft Prospect Scouting Report:

Rashad Jennings, RB, Liberty

Jennings originally committed to play for Pitt but did not qualify. He played the 2005 season for the Panthers, rushing for 411 yards on 86 carriers (4.8 average) and one touchdown. In 2006 he transferred to Liberty University where he started nine of eleven games, recording 1,020 rushing yards on 179 carriers (5.7) with 10 TD. He also caught six passes for 56 yards. Jennings was voted to the Big South Conference First Team. He then followed his breakthrough campaign of 2006 with a similar impressive 2007 season. Although he only played in nine games gaining 1,113 yards on 191 carriers (5.8) with 15 TD. He also caught 13 passes for 276 yards and two TD, earning the Conference's Player of the Year Award.

Jennings is a big and strong back. Is deceptively fast (4.60) for his size. A true downhill runner, Jennings does not "dance" around the pile. Great leg drive. Very tough to bring down inside. A workhorse-type of back. Very productive back. Does not turn the corner. Will get caught from behind.

This would be the Matt Forte of next year's draft. A workhorse back who would carry the load on the next level. In a weak running back class, Jennings (with a good post season) could sneak into the second round.

Last Updated Sep-10-2008 by Raul Colon

RustShack
12-05-2008, 10:25 AM
One of the worst mocks I've ever seen. Its so annoying when people throw in a bunch of trades that anyone with any brains know most of them wont happen.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-05-2008, 10:28 AM
Then you haven't seen Alex Mack play.

He probably won't even be there when we pick in the 2nd - he'll go in the 1st.

Best prospect at center since Matt Birk.

Matt Birk wasn't a good prospect. Kevin Mawae and Nick Mangold were.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-05-2008, 10:29 AM
You do realize that if we grab Mack in the 2nd that we can put him at C and move Niswanger to RG......filling two holes with one pick.

You can do the same thing with Max Unger in the third.

OnTheWarpath58
12-05-2008, 10:31 AM
Matt Birk wasn't a good prospect. Kevin Mawae and Nick Mangold were.

See my previous post. (#22)

I would expect that kind of dumbassery from others, but not from you.

You know damn well what I meant.

OnTheWarpath58
12-05-2008, 10:34 AM
You can do the same thing with Max Unger in the third.

Well shit.

If we're talking about inferior prospects, then fuck it.

Let's wait until the 4th and take Jonathan Luigs.

Accomplishes the same thing, right?

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-05-2008, 10:35 AM
See my previous post. (#22)

I would expect that kind of dumbassery from others, but not from you.

You know damn well what I meant.

There is a difference between prospects and players and it's not just flippancy. That's why Mecca's assertion that Russell would go high in every draft has merit, just like Ryan Leaf would. You can't take NFL performance and retroactively project how they will play as pros.

DaneMcCloud
12-05-2008, 10:36 AM
Naw this is my first and final attempt, not any good at doing mock drafts.

Thank you.

If the Chiefs traded Gonzalez and drafted a running back from Liberty, I'd say someone better call homeland security on my ass because Arrowhead stadium's gonna need some more renovations after I'm through.

JFC.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-05-2008, 10:40 AM
Well shit.

If we're talking about inferior prospects, then fuck it.

Let's wait until the 4th and take Jonathan Luigs.

Accomplishes the same thing, right?

#1) Google "stick in ass removal"
#2) Consider the difference in relative value. You can get a better prospect at an impact position in the 2nd round than you can in the third.

royr17
12-05-2008, 12:38 PM
Thank you.

If the Chiefs traded Gonzalez and drafted a running back from Liberty, I'd say someone better call homeland security on my ass because Arrowhead stadium's gonna need some more renovations after I'm through.

JFC.

I understand completely what you are saying but just because this guy comes from a school named Liberty doesnt mean that he wont be a pretty good player in this league.

Direckshun
12-05-2008, 12:45 PM
Not bad, man. Liked the mock a lot. The effort in it, if nothing else.

3rd and a 5th for LJ is fairy tale land, though. Even Cincy's not that dumb.

royr17
12-05-2008, 01:20 PM
Not bad, man. Liked the mock a lot. The effort in it, if nothing else.

3rd and a 5th for LJ is fairy tale land, though. Even Cincy's not that dumb.

I know, wish it would happen.

raybec 4
12-05-2008, 01:49 PM
Thank you.

If the Chiefs traded Gonzalez and drafted a running back from Liberty, I'd say someone better call homeland security on my ass because Arrowhead stadium's gonna need some more renovations after I'm through.

JFC.

ROFL

John_Wayne
12-05-2008, 01:55 PM
You guys tell me what you think.


The 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Draft

1st Round
a. DE/OLB George Selvie, (Acquired in trade down with Buffalo)

2nd Round
a. OC Alex Mack, California
b. RB Rashad Jennings, Liberty (Acquired in trading Tony Gonzalez to Green Bay)

3rd Round
a. OT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma (Acquired in trading Larry Johnson to Cincinatti)
b. WR Demetrius Byrd, LSU
c. MLB Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia (Acquired in trade down with Buffalo)

4th Round
a. TE Shawn Nelson, Southern Miss

5th Round
a. OG Anthony Parker, Tennessee (Acquired in trading Larry Johnson to Cincinatti)
b. SS Courtney Greene, Rutgers

6th Round
a. CB Ryan Palmer, Texas

7th Round
a. QB Chase Daniel, Missouri
b. CB Wopamo Osaisai, Stanford (Acquired in trading Ryan Sims to Tampa Bay)

I stopped reading when you traded Tony G. We should NOT ever trade Tony G!

ArrowheadHawk
12-05-2008, 02:12 PM
I stopped reading when you traded Tony G. We should NOT ever trade Tony G!

This.

royr17
12-05-2008, 03:16 PM
I stopped reading when you traded Tony G. We should NOT ever trade Tony G!

Not saying that we should, but Herm's dumbass self will probably look for offers for him so that he can add more draft picks for his already shitty team. If it were up to me there's not a chance in hell that I would even trade Tony G.

DaneMcCloud
12-05-2008, 03:27 PM
Not saying that we should, but Herm's dumbass self will probably look for offers for him so that he can add more draft picks for his already shitty team. If it were up to me there's not a chance in hell that I would even trade Tony G.

This is fucking dumb AND without merit.

Tony Gonzalez went to Carl, asking for a trade. Carl did not oblige.

Since that time, the offense has gone from scoring 12 points per game to 24 points per game. The offense will only continue to improve in 2009 with the addition of higher quality offensive lineman and the maturity of Thigpen, Bowe, Charles, Cottam, Albert, Franklin and Niswanger.

And furthermore: NEVER TRADE A HALL OF FAMER!!!!!!!!

Direckshun
12-05-2008, 04:26 PM
I love how Niswanger's total garbage when you're arguing with me, but he's a potential building block that's maturing when he's arguing with royr.

DaneMcCloud
12-05-2008, 04:46 PM
I love how Niswanger's total garbage when you're arguing with me, but he's a potential building block that's maturing when he's arguing with royr.

Are you referring to me? When did I EVER say he was garbage?

I've stated on several occasions he's much better suited at RIGHT GUARD, not center.

But garbage? I did not say that. Ever.

CoMoChief
12-05-2008, 05:01 PM
Matt Birk wasn't a good prospect. Kevin Mawae and Nick Mangold were.

Exactly what I was getting at.

Cornstock
12-05-2008, 05:22 PM
I wonder if people realize how hard trading down in the first can be. Especially in the top 5. Teams are rarely willing to give up all the picks and fork out the dough for a guy who has never played a snap in the league. Of course from time to time it does happen (obviously Eli Manning), but the risk is more than a lot of GM are willing to take.

Now is a bad idea to try and trade down? Of course not if the price is right. But with Carl, the price is rarely right...which is not always a bad thing IMO. He just wants make sure if we pass on a top 5 draft pick we get adequate compensation.

dorseybowe
12-05-2008, 05:26 PM
Am I missing something? I know Daniel is short, but....undrafted???

Micjones
12-05-2008, 05:33 PM
You guys tell me what you think.


The 2009 Kansas City Chiefs Draft

1st Round
a. DE/OLB George Selvie, (Acquired in trade down with Buffalo)

2nd Round
a. OC Alex Mack, California
b. RB Rashad Jennings, Liberty (Acquired in trading Tony Gonzalez to Green Bay)

3rd Round
a. OT Phil Loadholt, Oklahoma (Acquired in trading Larry Johnson to Cincinatti)
b. WR Demetrius Byrd, LSU
c. MLB Dannell Ellerbe, Georgia (Acquired in trade down with Buffalo)

You could stop here and that'd be one HELL of a draft.

the Talking Can
12-05-2008, 05:36 PM
i'd draft wampum o-ass-e in the 3rd just based on his name...i give you props just for typing that...

milkman
12-06-2008, 05:42 AM
Am I missing something? I know Daniel is short, but....undrafted???

If you have to ask why Daniel won't be drafted, then it's obvious that the answer to your question, "Am I missing something?", is football IQ.

milkman
12-06-2008, 05:43 AM
BTW.

Worst
Mock
Draft




Ever.

royr17
12-06-2008, 01:27 PM
BTW.

Worst
Mock
Draft




Ever.

Hey I was just trying man. But you dont have to insult me like that. Geez.

Delano
12-06-2008, 01:29 PM
You could stop here and that'd be one HELL of a draft.

Really?

You'd be happy with Selvie, Jennings, and Byrd? Mind you, the team no longer has LJ or Tony Gonzalez.

royr17
12-06-2008, 01:50 PM
Really?

You'd be happy with Selvie, Jennings, and Byrd? Mind you, the team no longer has LJ or Tony Gonzalez.

LJ just really has no where left on this team and to think about the trouble that he has been in, I dont want him on this team next year. Tony I dont wanna see go, I wouldnt get rid of him, I only put that on there due to the fact that he said he wants to play for a contender and asked for a trade so I could see it as a good possibility that he could get traded in the offseason. I'd take what we can get for LJ cause I feel that he is washed up goods anyways.

RustShack
12-06-2008, 01:58 PM
You guys that seem to know a lot about the draft and prospects(Mecca, Warpath, Milkman, Hamas, ect.) You guys should start your own threads with your own top 32 or what not. Then maybe keep updating it as we near the draft. Please and Thank you. Also, guys who don't know shit, feel free not to do this.

Mecca
12-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Not bad, man. Liked the mock a lot. The effort in it, if nothing else.

3rd and a 5th for LJ is fairy tale land, though. Even Cincy's not that dumb.

Cincy is the kind of dumb that would take Chris Wells with their 1st pick.

DaneMcCloud
12-06-2008, 02:11 PM
lso, guys who don't know shit, feel free not to do this.

You mean guys like Junior?

BTW, I'm in total agreement, Milkman.

RustShack
12-06-2008, 02:16 PM
Cincy is the kind of dumb that would take Chris Wells with their 1st pick.

I know you seen my post, and I'm pissed you ignored it!

ChiefsCountry
12-06-2008, 02:21 PM
I know you seen my post, and I'm pissed you ignored it!

Wait till after the combine.

ChiefsCountry
12-06-2008, 02:21 PM
You mean guys like Junior?

BTW, I'm in total agreement, Milkman.

Make that three of us.

royr17
12-06-2008, 02:34 PM
I'll accept your mock draft if you can explain to me why Buffalo traded up. What player did they just have to have?

Well afterall Trent Edwards has a good receiver in Lee Evans and Josh Reed is no more then a # 3 WR he needs another good WR in Michael Crabtree would be worth that pick, after the season is over we'd probably be drafting around # 7 or # 10.

RustShack
12-06-2008, 02:53 PM
Wait till after the combine.

The combine is over rated. Personally I would use it if I had like a tie between players.

RustShack
12-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Like I said they should make one now, update it after bowl games, and update it again after the combine... or whenever they effing feel like.

DaneMcCloud
12-06-2008, 03:09 PM
The combine is over rated. Personally I would use it if I had like a tie between players.

WHAT?

Are you serious?

Please, tell us you're not serious.

RustShack
12-06-2008, 03:16 PM
WHAT?

Are you serious?

Please, tell us you're not serious.

I would just rather draft guys based on the football field... not on a track or weight room...

DaneMcCloud
12-06-2008, 03:30 PM
I would just rather draft guys based on the football field... not on a track or weight room...

Well, that's just plain fucking stupid.

It's absolutely necessary to test for speed, agility, strength and injury before investing millions of dollars in athletes.

Furthermore, a guy may look great on the football field against his competitors but it may turn out that he's too slow and too weak to make any impact in the NFL.

Are you telling me that you'd forego testing athletes if YOU owned a team because a guy 'looked good' on the field? Invest millions without doing your due diligence?

Again, that's just plain fucking stupid.