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Stinger
12-05-2008, 01:14 PM
RAIDERS: COMMITMENT TO 10-LOSS SEASONS

The Chargers beat the Raiders Thursday night, Oakland's tenth loss of the season. The Raiders have now lost at least 10 games in each of the last six seasons, matching the second-longest such streak in NFL history. Tampa Bay had 12 consecutive seasons with 10-or-more losses from 1983 to 1994 and Detroit had six in a row from 2001 to 2006.

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/elias

Frazod
12-05-2008, 01:22 PM
I sure wish someone could explain to me how those fucking clowns still rate prime time games.

I'm not saying we do, but hell, Chiefs/Broncos is still a better matchup than Raiders/Chargers.

J Diddy
12-05-2008, 01:22 PM
I sure wish someone could explain to me how those ****ing clowns still rate prime time games.

I'm not saying we do, but hell, Chiefs/Broncos is still a better matchup than Raiders/Chargers.

because san diego and oakland are bigger markets than kansas city and denver

talastan
12-05-2008, 01:25 PM
Faiders have to be good at something. :shrug:

Frazod
12-05-2008, 01:26 PM
because san diego and oakland are bigger markets than kansas city and denver

Yes, I know that, but we're still talking the Great Underachievers v. Masters of Suck.

CoMoChief
12-05-2008, 01:29 PM
because san diego and oakland are bigger markets than kansas city and denver

Though no one gives a fuck about pro football in the state of California.

CoMoChief
12-05-2008, 01:29 PM
I'd like to see the Raiders play the Torjans of USC

Deberg_1990
12-05-2008, 01:30 PM
because san diego and oakland are bigger markets than kansas city and denver

Raiders have a HUGE national following.

Im almost certain the NFL has marketing groups out there to analyze which teams draw the biggest ratings regardless of record.

ChiTown
12-05-2008, 01:31 PM
Though no one gives a **** about pro football in the state of California.

Ditto

The NFL game is lost on those fuggin idiots in SoCal.

J Diddy
12-05-2008, 01:31 PM
Yes, I know that, but we're still talking the Great Underachievers v. Masters of Suck.



yes you're looking at it from a quality game point of view, they're looking at it from a ratings/revenue point of view.


That being said nobody outside of denver and kc would give 2 turds to see the 2-10 chiefs do anything that didn't result in an explosion on live tv.

Frazod
12-05-2008, 01:32 PM
Raiders have a HUGE national following.

Im almost certain the NFL has marketing groups out there to analyze which teams draw the biggest ratings regardless of record.

I think you've confusing huge national following with lots of gangbanger punks who think Raiders stuff looks cool.

When I went to Northern California a couple of years ago I was amazed to see people sporting Raiders gear who didn't look like they're were on parole.

ottawa_chiefs_fan
12-05-2008, 01:32 PM
I'd like to see the Raiders play the Torjans of USC

They would lose - Russell couldn't complete a pass if there was NO other team on the field - he has to be secretly 70% vision-impaired or something (other than just being stupid).

Pestilence
12-05-2008, 01:36 PM
I think you've confusing huge national following with lots of gangbanger punks who think Raiders stuff looks cool.

When I went to Northern California a couple of years ago I was amazed to see people sporting Raiders gear who didn't look like they're were on parole.

Yep....welcome to Nor-Cal. Home of the people who like the Raiders because their main color is black.

J Diddy
12-05-2008, 01:36 PM
I think you've confusing huge national following with lots of gangbanger punks who think Raiders stuff looks cool.

When I went to Northern California a couple of years ago I was amazed to see people sporting Raiders gear who didn't look like they're were on parole.

Exactly, you wouldn't be seeing near as much raider gear sold if their uniforms were pink with turquoise trim.

Groves
12-05-2008, 01:38 PM
I'd like to see the Raiders play the Torjans of USC

I see this line of thinking thrown around frequently.

I tend to fall in the "even the worst NFL team would absolutely murder even the best college team" camp.

Where do you guys stand?

Soupnazi
12-05-2008, 01:39 PM
Raiders have a HUGE national following.

This is true. You can find a surprisingly large number of prisons all over this country.

Pestilence
12-05-2008, 01:40 PM
I see this line of thinking thrown around frequently.

I tend to fall in the "even the worst NFL team would absolutely murder even the best college team" camp.

Where do you guys stand?

I'm the same way. Yeah the Raiders suck but they're talent level is far above a college team's level.

morphius
12-05-2008, 01:42 PM
I sure wish someone could explain to me how those fucking clowns still rate prime time games.

I'm not saying we do, but hell, Chiefs/Broncos is still a better matchup than Raiders/Chargers.
I think they were expecting the Chargers to be as good or better than last year, then they would be able to talk up the greatness that is Rivers, Gates and LT all night long.

Katie
12-05-2008, 01:46 PM
Well, the ratings for the game last night were near an all time low for viewing...apparently NO ONE was too interested in this game.

Mark M
12-05-2008, 01:55 PM
I see this line of thinking thrown around frequently.

I tend to fall in the "even the worst NFL team would absolutely murder even the best college team" camp.

Where do you guys stand?

Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and/or Alabama could all beat Detroit, and maybe the Raiders (if they played the way they have the past two weeks).

And Herm said (as quoted in the new SI) that he has a college team right now, so the Chiefs would probably have to squeak one out.

MM
~~:sulk:

J Diddy
12-05-2008, 02:19 PM
I see this line of thinking thrown around frequently.

I tend to fall in the "even the worst NFL team would absolutely murder even the best college team" camp.

Where do you guys stand?


I would tend to agree. All these guys excelled in college. While the college teams themselves have weak links.

J Diddy
12-05-2008, 02:20 PM
Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and/or Alabama could all beat Detroit, and maybe the Raiders (if they played the way they have the past two weeks).

And Herm said (as quoted in the new SI) that he has a college team right now, so the Chiefs would probably have to squeak one out.

MM
~~:sulk:



Imagine Tony lined up on any college cb.

CupidStunt
12-05-2008, 02:21 PM
Florida, USC, Oklahoma, and/or Alabama could all beat Detroit, and maybe the Raiders (if they played the way they have the past two weeks).

And Herm said (as quoted in the new SI) that he has a college team right now, so the Chiefs would probably have to squeak one out.

MM
~~:sulk:

Detroit would absolutely steamroll those teams.

Baconeater
12-05-2008, 02:23 PM
Raiders have a HUGE national following.

Im almost certain the NFL has marketing groups out there to analyze which teams draw the biggest ratings regardless of record.

Apparently for some reason Cleveland must fall in that category, although I have no idea why, they've sucked since they got their new team and they always pretty much sucked with their old team.

Mark M
12-05-2008, 02:25 PM
Detroit would absolutely steamroll those teams.

Okay ... some of you need to recalibrate your Sarcas-O-Meters.

MM
~~:D

Tribal Warfare
12-05-2008, 02:26 PM
This is true. You can find a surprisingly large number of prisons all over this country.

and Meth labs

Dr. Van Halen
12-05-2008, 02:35 PM
Okay ... some of you need to recalibrate your Sarcas-O-Meters.

MM
~~:D

Ha! Actually, I agree that Detroit would destroy USC. USC is a great college team, but there are starting players on their team that are not even worthy of a look from the pros.

Things have changed from the old days when the college all-stars won against the pros, believe me.

vailpass
12-05-2008, 02:41 PM
I see this line of thinking thrown around frequently.

I tend to fall in the "even the worst NFL team would absolutely murder even the best college team" camp.

Where do you guys stand?

There is no argument.