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Pestilence
12-18-2008, 10:10 AM
Here are the rules:

You have to use this mock draft. http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

You are allowed to make one FA signing from this list. http://www.footballsfuture.com/freeagents.html

Put together your mock offseason. 1 FA and the first 3 rounds. If you want to get creative and put trades in they have to be explained and realistic. If you say that the 49ers are going to trade up to the #3 spot, then you have to explain what they gave up and who they traded up to draft.

Pestilence
12-18-2008, 10:27 AM
FA Signing - Terrell Suggs DE

I'll be stupid and actually say that the 49ers need to grab an OT in this draft. They're at #8 and they need to get ahead of the Bengals and Raiders to get one of the top 3 OTs. They give up the #8, #42 and #73 for our #3 and #98. They take Michael Oher at #3. (It doesn't really fit the draft value chart perfectly....but screw it)

2009 Draft.

8. Taylor Mays/S/USC
34. George Selvie/DE/South Florida
42. Herman Johnson/G/LSU
67. Dannell Ellerbe/ILB/Georgia
73. Fenuki Tupou/OT/Oregon

Pestilence
12-18-2008, 10:30 AM
That leaves our team looking like this.

QB: Thigpen/Gray/Croyle
RB: LJ/Charles/Smith
FB: Cox
WR: Bowe/Bradley/Franklin/Darling/Johnson
TE: Gonzo/Cottam
LT: Albert/Taylor
LG: Waters
C: Niswanger
RG: Johnson
RT: Tupou

LDE: Selvie/Hali
DT: Dorsey/Boone
NT: Tyler/Edwards
RDE: Suggs/McBride
LOLB: DJ
MLB: Ellerbe
ROLB: Williams
CB: Flowers/Carr/Leggett
FS: Mays/Page
SS: Morgan/Pollard

PhillyChiefFan
12-18-2008, 10:48 AM
That leaves our team looking like this.

QB: Thigpen/Gray/Croyle
RB: LJ/Charles/Smith
FB: Cox
WR: Bowe/Bradley/Franklin/Darling/Johnson
TE: Gonzo/Cottam
LT: Albert/Taylor
LG: Waters
C: Niswanger
RG: Johnson
RT: Tupou

LDE: Hali/Selvie
DT: Dorsey/Boone
NT: Tyler/Edwards
RDE: Suggs/McBride
LOLB: DJ
MLB: Ellerbe
ROLB: Williams
CB: Flowers/Carr/Leggett
FS: Mays/Page
SS: Morgan/Pollard


Against the grain with not taking a QB huh? :)

I am not positive Balt. will let Suggs walk, if he does and we dont' attempt to snatch him up, I'll be pissed. Instant upgrade on defense.

Pestilence
12-18-2008, 10:55 AM
Against the grain with not taking a QB huh? :)

I am not positive Balt. will let Suggs walk, if he does and we dont' attempt to snatch him up, I'll be pissed. Instant upgrade on defense.

I'm not really going against the grain. I'm using the mock draft above which has Stafford going #1 and none of the other QBs are coming out (at least in the mock draft). Therefor....there is no QB to take.

PhillyChiefFan
12-18-2008, 10:59 AM
True enough, weak draft class for QB's.

I like George Selvie, even though I haven't seen as much on him as some others.

PhillyChiefFan
12-18-2008, 10:59 AM
He seems like he would be a leader

PhillyChiefFan
12-18-2008, 11:00 AM
I'm not really going against the grain. I'm using the mock draft above which has Stafford going #1 and none of the other QBs are coming out (at least in the mock draft). Therefor....there is no QB to take.

Edit: I misread your directions :) I thought you said find A mock not use this mock. :)

Pestilence
12-18-2008, 11:01 AM
Edit: I misread your directions :) I thought you said find A mock not use this mock. :)

Yep...you have to use that mock. If someone went in that mock before our pick.....then you can't pick him obviously. It's something to pass the time at work.....

OnTheWarpath58
12-18-2008, 01:59 PM
I'm not gonna mess with trades, but base on what I have available to work with, I'd go:

Orakpo
Mack
Tupou

Sign Vilma as FA.

Sfeihc
12-18-2008, 02:56 PM
I'm not gonna mess with trades, but base on what I have available to work with, I'd go:

Orakpo
Mack
Tupou

Sign Vilma as FA.

I like this but I'd swap in Freeman LB OSU for Tupou. It would be nice to get 2 LB's, a starting OL and a pass rusher with those four players. Rudy could slide to RG and challenge Jones for the spot.

Pestilence
12-19-2008, 10:08 AM
I'm not gonna mess with trades, but base on what I have available to work with, I'd go:

Orakpo
Mack
Tupou

Sign Vilma as FA.

With no trades.....I'd be very happy with this offseason.

milkman
12-21-2008, 08:02 AM
Not going to consider trades.

Sign Suggs.

1.Brain Orakpo
2.Alex Mack
3.Fenuki Tupou

This gives me Suggs and Orakpo as bookend DEs, and Tamba as a rotational DE.
Greatly improves our D-Line.

It also allows me to move Niswanger to RG, where I think he acquited himself very well last season, and effectively upgrades 3 positions along the O-line.

milkman
12-21-2008, 08:03 AM
I'm not gonna mess with trades, but base on what I have available to work with, I'd go:

Orakpo
Mack
Tupou

Sign Vilma as FA.

Oh hell.
I should have read the thread before I posted.

Oh, what the hell?
We're pretty much on the same page.

Chiefnj2
12-22-2008, 09:06 AM
1 - FA - Suggs (OLB)

Draft day trade with the Lions. Lions get #3 pick, KC gets 25th, 33rd, 65th.

25. Clint Stintim (OLB)
33. BJ Raj (NT) (KC is moving to a 3-4 in case you didn't notice).
34. Mack (C)
65. Highest rated WR.
67. Boone (ROT).
4th round - Egboh (DE).

Reaper16
12-22-2008, 09:59 AM
I'm not gonna mess with trades, but base on what I have available to work with, I'd go:

Orakpo
Mack
Tupou

Sign Vilma as FA.
The only problem with Vilma is that he is ideally suited in a Cover 2. Who knows whether the new coach will change schemes?

Pestilence
12-22-2008, 10:59 AM
The only problem with Vilma is that he is ideally suited in a Cover 2. Who knows whether the new coach will change schemes?

That would be why the new coaching staff needs to come in prior to FA.

OnTheWarpath58
12-22-2008, 01:31 PM
That would be why the new coaching staff needs to come in prior to FA.

They will.

FA doesn't start until March 1st, IIRC.

talastan
12-22-2008, 04:28 PM
Who else as far as pass rushers or talented DE's will be available for FA? I know of Suggs and Peppers, anyone else that might be a poor mans version of one of these two. I really like the idea of picking up Orakpo and Suggs and then Mack in the second. I just wonder if we shouldn't pickup a MLB in the third round and give Herbie or Richardson a legit shot at the RT position

aturnis
12-22-2008, 07:43 PM
We drafted Mitchell in the 2nd and look how he turned out? Now he's getting paid more than he deserves. What makes you think that a 3rd round MLB would be a good pick?

aturnis
12-24-2008, 10:20 PM
I went ahead and restructured Larry Johnson's deal after telling him his role would be limited and this is his chance out. Traded him to Cincinnati for their 3rd round choice.

Here we go...

FA: Vilma

1st - Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest

2nd - George Selvie, DE, South Florida

3rd - Shonn Greene, RB, Iowa

3rd (from Cinci) - Fenuki Tupou, OT, Oregon

4th - Eric Wood, C, Louisville (He wasn't taken by the end of the 3rd in this mock. I figured the Chiefs would have a good shot at him.)

All should be able to become instant starters for this team. If not immediate upgrades.

You depth chart it out...

chiefs99
12-26-2008, 06:54 AM
swap 1st round picks with GB and get brian brohm

FA: suggs

1. Rey Maualuga LB USC
2. Phil Loadholt G OKLAHOMA
3. shonn greene RB IOWA

Coogs
12-27-2008, 09:26 AM
I'll play.

Using the updated Walter's mock from December 25th.

They still just have one QB in the first round, and he (Stafford) is gone at #1.

My FA pick-up under this scenario would be Cassel from NE.

Trade down from #3 with Philly for #18, #29, and #50. (the point chart doesn't quite match up, but what the heck)

#18 Spikes ILB Florida
#29 Hardy DE Georgia
#34 Cushing OLB USC (it shows him going at #33 so maybe a slight trade up would be needed to grab him here)
#50 Johnson G LSU
#67 Caldwell C Alabama

Pestilence
01-01-2009, 03:01 PM
Since the draft order is finally set.....

GM - Eric DeCosta
HC - Rex Ryan
OC - Chan Gailey
DC - Clarence Brooks (Ravens DL Coach)

QBs coach - Price
DB coach - Gibbs

I won't be doing any trades though.

FA - Terrell Suggs DE

1st - Aaron Curry - OLB/ILB - Wake Forest

Fuck it.....I'll take him at #3. I wouldn't be drafting him to play OLB though. I'd take him and plug him in at the MLB spot and move DJ to the Will spot. DeMorrio Williams isn't the answer in the other LB spot though...so I'd probably be looking for another LB in this years draft.

2nd - George Selvie - DE - USF

I know I grabbed Suggs in FA but our DE's are horrid to say the least. LB and DE are huge holes going into this offseason....and I just filled most of the spots. Hali and McBride just became the rotational players that they should be.

3rd - Antoine Caldwell - C - Alabama

Fenuki Tupou was taken in the 2nd round....so I can't take him here (even though I think we could get him in the top of the 3rd). Caldwell would immediately take over at the Center spot and allow Niswanger to kick over to the RG spot. That fills two holes on the offensive line with 1 pick. RT is now the only need for this line.