Emanuel talked directly to gov: source

[petegz28]

So the plot thickens............


http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/blagojevich/1337789,CST-NWS-rahm18good.article

President-elect Barack Obama's incoming chief of staff Rahm Emanuel had a deeper involvement in pressing for a U.S. Senate seat appointment than previously reported, the Sun-Times has learned. Emanuel had direct discussions about the seat with Gov. Blagojevich, who is is accused of trying to auction it to the highest bidder.

Emanuel talked with the governor in the days following the Nov. 4 election and pressed early on for the appointment of Valerie Jarrett to the post, sources with knowledge of the conversations told the Sun-Times. There was no indication from sources that Emanuel brokered a deal, however.

A source with the Obama camp strongly denied Emanuel spoke with the governor directly about the seat, saying Emanuel only spoke with Blagojevich once recently to say he was taking the chief of staff post.

But sources with knowledge of the investigation said Blagojevich told his aides about the calls with Emanuel and sometimes gave them directions afterward. Sources said that early on, Emanuel pushed for the appointment of Jarrett to the governor and his staff and asked that it be done by a certain date.

At least some of the conversations between Emanuel and Blagojevich were likely caught on tape, sources said.

After Jarrett took herself out of the running in mid-November, Emanuel submitted a list of suitable names to the governor's camp that didn't include her name.

Emanuel, who has refused to comment on the issue, is not accused of wrongdoing.

In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment.

[petegz28]

I am finding it hard to believe Obama didn't have any idea his #1 was talking with the Illi Gov.


In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment.

Sure seems like he would of based on the tapes.

[banyon]

I am finding it hard to believe Obama didn't have any idea his #1 was talking with the Illi Gov.




Sure seems like he would of based on the tapes.

So what is your education anyway? I mean, since you don't like people who have read books and all.

[petegz28]

So what is your education anyway? I mean, since you don't like people who have read books and all.

Would have. Is that bette? Touche. And I never said I do not like people that read books.

[Iowanian]

This is un-possible.

President Obama vetted and checked his entire staff, and I was told this week that they were all clean.

You simply must stop being so inflaming of these preposterous concepts.

[banyon]

Would have. Is that bette? Touche. And I never said I do not like people that read books.

"Better", and yes it is better because it doesn't sound like a 6th grade girl's text message.

The dislike about people who went further in their education may not be something you are consciously aware of, but it comes across pretty clearly in your posts.

I take it since you didn't answer, you were embarrassed by the question. I withdraw it. Please feel free to continue your fruitless pursuit of a "guilt by association" strategy to smear Obama in this thread that already failed spectacularly in the general election and will be even more useless in 2012.

[petegz28]

This is un-possible.

President Obama vetted and checked his entire staff, and I was told this week that they were all clean.

You simply must stop being so inflaming of these preposterous concepts.


I could swear I heard the same as you. Probably why Banyon is choosing to attack me instead of addressing the issue.

Nothing to see here...LOOK AT PETE! LOOK LOOK LOOK!

[petegz28]

"Better", and yes it is better because it doesn't sound like a 6th grade girl's text message.

The dislike about people who went further in their education may not be something you are consciously aware of, but it comes across pretty clearly in your posts.

I take it since you didn't answer, you were embarrassed by the question. I withdraw it. Please feel free to continue your fruitless pursuit of a "guilt by association" strategy to smear Obama in this thread that already failed spectacularly in the general election and will be even more useless in 2012.

Do I need to go over to the post you just made where you said you "thing" I am on mercury or something?LMAO

And I never said I disliked people who furthered or for furthering their education. Once again yoiu must put words in my mouth then elaborate.

[petegz28]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5309851&postcount=271

Do you ever remember what you posted before? I'm really starting to thing you may want to get yourself checked for possible mercury contamination.

Don't "thing" too hard!

[banyon]

I could swear I heard the same as you. Probably why Banyon is choosing to attack me instead of addressing the issue.

Nothing to see here...LOOK AT PETE! LOOK LOOK LOOK!

For as much substance as you post here. You could just substitute the bolded part in this post from here on out.

[banyon]

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5309851&postcount=271



Don't "thing" too hard!

I'm not surprised you can't distinguish a typo and a major grammar error.

[banyon]

Anyway, what's the point in discussing "OMG there may have been slightly more discussions than had ben previously reported" if there's no evidence whatsoever that it was related to any corrupt motives?

Not that you could really answer this question in any useful or interesting way.

[petegz28]

I'm not surprised you can't distinguish a typo and a major grammar error.

I was reffering to you slamming be for my "typo" when I typed the word "better" as "bette".

I guess it is harder to type from high up on your horse?

[banyon]

I was reffering to you slamming be for my "type" when I typed the word "better" as "bette".

I guess it is harder to type from high up on your horse?

Come on, at least try.

[petegz28]

Anyway, what's the point in discussing "OMG there may have been slightly more discussions than had ben previously reported" if there's no evidence whatsoever that it was related to any corrupt motives?

Not that you could really answer this question in any useful or interesting way.

Yea, shoot down my answer before you hear it cause you don't want to hear how Obama has been telling is no one on his staff has been dealing with the Illi gov.

Yea, keep your focus on attacking me cause I am sure you don't like seeing the fact your Obama isn't some squeaky clean saint like you want us to believe.

[banyon]

Yea, shoot down my answer before you hear it cause you don't want to hear how Obama has been telling is no one has been dealing with the Illi gov.

Yea, keep your focus on attacking me cause I am sure you don't like seeing the fact your Obama isn't some squeaky clean saint like you want us to believe.

Is that the extent of your ability to reflect on what the events in the article mean? Because it's about exactly as disappointing as I'd predicted.

[petegz28]

Is that the extent of your ability to reflect on what the events in the article mean? Because it's about exactly as disappointing as I'd predicted.

Do you wnat to have a discussion about the OP or not?

You have yet to do anything here but attack me and deflect from the OP. And I have a good idea as to why.

[banyon]

Do you wnat to have a discussion about the OP or not?

You have yet to do anything here but attack me and deflect from the OP. And I have a good idea as to why.

I gave you a question related to the OP, to date, you haven't answered it. If you can't answer that basic question, what's the point?

[petegz28]

I gave you a question related to the OP, to date, you haven't answered it. If you can't answer that basic question, what's the point?

Sorry, I gues missed your 1 question surrounded by your 50 attacks. Or I just didn't give you an answer you like?

[banyon]

Sorry, I must of missed your 1 question surrounded by your 50 attacks.

Well, why don't you give that slowing down and reading thing we talked about yesterday a shot and try again?

[petegz28]

Well, why don't you give that slowing down and reading thing we talked about yesterday a shot and try again?

What is the point? You will spend more time griping about typos or something rather than addressing the topic.

And I did answer your question as far as I am concerned. Just not the way you wanted me too.

[banyon]

What is the point? You will spend more time griping about typos or something rather than addressing the topic.

And I did answer your question as far as I am concerned. Just not the way you wanted me too.

No you didn't answer the question, you just whined again to yet another poster (me this time) about how you would be unfairly attacked for your 800th stupid post in 2 weeks or whatever your tally is at this point and make an irrelevant comment about how things and another made up falsehood about how I think Obama is a saint or something equally absurd.

[petegz28]

No you didn't answer the question, you just whined again to yet another poster (me this time) about how you would be unfairly attacked for your 800th stupid post in 2 weeks or whatever your tally is at this point and make an irrelevant comment about how things and another made up falsehood about how I think Obama is a saint or something equally absurd.

Thanks for proving my point.

Here was the answer you obviously didn't like.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5309903&postcount=15

Yea, shoot down my answer before you hear it cause you don't want to hear how Obama has been telling us no one on his staff has been dealing with the Illi gov.

[banyon]

Thanks for proving my point.

Actually that was my point. You leeched on to it when you realized there was nothing you could offer on the topic worth discussing.



Here was the answer you obviously didn't like.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5309903&postcount=15

Yea, shoot down my answer before you hear it cause you don't want to hear how Obama has been telling us no one on his staff has been dealing with the Illi gov.

Well, depending on what "dealing" means in your post here, either 1) it means "talking to" which Obama never said and would make it a false statement not worth replying to like I had mentioned, or 2) it means "asking for money or favors in exchange" in which case there's nothing in the article which supports that claim, so it would just be wishful speculation on your part, also not worth discussing.

[petegz28]

Actually that was my point. You leeched on to it when you realized there was nothing you could offer on the topic worth discussing.

What was your point? You have not made a point.

And once again you proved mine. Thanks.

[banyon]

What was your point? You have not made a point.

And once again you proved mine. Thanks.

My point was the same as yours, that it was not worth discussing (in this case for reasons of a lack of two parties' capacity or temperament), and as I stated, I made it much earlier.

[petegz28]

My point was the same as yours, that it was not worth discussing (in this case for reasons of a lack of two parties' capacity or temperament), and as I stated, I made it much earlier.

All you have done is attack me and downplay the OP. And more than likely cause you don't want to face up to the facts that Mr. Squeaky Clean is starting to look like he might be more squeaky than clean.

Or did you just come into this thread to attack me and nothing else? Sure seems to me that was your motivation.

[banyon]

All you have done is attack me and downplay the OP. And more than likely cause you don't want to face up to the facts that Mr. Squeaky Clean is starting to look like he might be more squeaky than clean.

Quite to the contrary, I've given you a ridiculous amount of opportunities to impart to us what the significance of this "news" is and you've been deathly afraid of coming anywhere near talking about it. For obvious reasons, though, it's fluff until there's something a little bit more worth giving a s*** about.

[petegz28]

Quite to the contrary, I've given you a ridiculous amount of opportunities to impart to us what the significance of this "news" is and you've been deathly afraid of coming anywhere near talking about it. For obvious reasons, though, it's fluff until there's something a little bit more worth giving a s*** about.

Right, sure I have. Keep telling yourself that.

Keep playing it down. Keep attacking me and playing it down.

Typical. Your hero is turning out to be typical politican but keep playing the "nothing to see here" card.

[banyon]

Right, sure I have. Keep telling yourself that.

Keep playing it down. Keep attacking me and playing it down.

Typical. Your hero is turning out to be typical politican but keep playing the "nothing to see here" card.

One more post that doesn't address the OP in anything but the vaguest, most irrelevant terms. How surprising.

[petegz28]

One more post that doesn't address the OP in anything but the vaguest, most irrelevant terms. How surprising.

You know, you sure are racking up the post count. I'd say the majority of your posts in this thread have had nothing to do with the OP. And since most of my posts and have in response to you, well you can do the math.

But I like the persistence you have with the "blame others for what I am doing" routine. I will give you props for your stubborness if anything.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Emanuel, who has refused to comment on the issue, is not accused of wrongdoing.

In portions of conversations released in a criminal complaint against Blagojevich, he can be heard complaining that Obama wouldn't give anything in return for a Jarrett appointment.Wow, this really does look terrible for Obama. I'm guessing he's impeached soon.

[|Zach|]

Quite to the contrary, I've given you a ridiculous amount of opportunities to impart to us what the significance of this "news" is and you've been deathly afraid of coming anywhere near talking about it. For obvious reasons, though, it's fluff until there's something a little bit more worth giving a s*** about.

Bump

Looking forward to a clear answer to this...

Thanks in advance Pete.

[NewPhin]

This is one of those things that always amazes me about Washington. When will people learn that it's so often the coverup that gets your ass in trouble, not the actual act.

It would completely make sense that the Obama team would have talked to Blago about this position. It would be expected. I don't know why the hell they didn't just come out in the beginning and say, "Yes, we've talked to him. No, we have not engaged in any wrongdoing or brokering for the position." Instead, they're so scared of getting tainted by this moron that they try to act like they don't even know him.

I honestly don't think that the evidence will show that Obama or any of his proxies made any sort of attempt to deal for the seat. So I don't think they're guilty of any wrongdoing. However, by mispeaking (or lying if you want to call it that) about the level of contact between the two camps, he's guilty of either distortion or not knowing what his people are up to.


Edit: I just read an article that basically says the same thing :
http://www.salon.com/opinion/conason/2008/12/19/rahm/print.html

What's Obama hiding about Blagojevich?
Probably nothing. But by mishandling the scandal, his team has allowed questions to be raised where there were none.

By Joe Conason

Dec. 19, 2008 |

While the Blagojevich scandal so far has exonerated rather than implicated Barack Obama and his staff, the president-elect's camp has made some unnecessary mistakes in response. Inflated and distorted by hostile critics, those mistakes have risked creating public suspicion where there need be none.

When a scandal breaks in the media, the most important aspect of any political response is clarity. Vagueness provokes distrust, which is only intensified by brusque responses to reporters' inquiries. Innocent fumbles create an appearance of dishonesty or concealment, even when there is none -- and inevitably, political opponents distort that false appearance even further to their own advantage.

The impulse to create distance between Obama and Blagojevich was understandable, given their common political roots in Chicago, but was excessive in its zeal and haste. By seeming to suggest that there had been no contact with the Illinois governor about appointing a new senator to replace him, Obama and his aides set up a scenario that could only be punctured by subsequent facts.

Indeed, Obama had every right and reason to be concerned with who might replace him in the Senate -- and there was certainly nothing wrong with him or anyone who works for him engaging in discussions of that matter with Blagojevich. But as the scandal emerged, all such contacts suddenly seemed to carry a taint -- an impression that Obama seemed to affirm. Reflexively but wrongly, he behaved as if no such discussions had occurred, without quite saying so.

So when the Chicago Tribune reported that Rahm Emanuel had in fact discussed the Senate appointment with Blagojevich or his aides on nearly two dozen occasions, it meant trouble. There is no indication that the incoming White House chief of staff engaged in any illegal or unethical conduct. There is certainly no indication that those contacts were "inappropriate." But the revelation encouraged every insinuation that Obama and his staff are somehow obscuring the real nature and extent of their relationship with the disgraced governor.

This political problem arose in part because Obama was so eager to appear purer than any politician can actually be. In his initial statements, he sounded as if he was trying to say that he knew nothing at all about the selection of his successor. "I had no contact with the governor or his office and so we were not, I was not aware of what was happening," he told the press, and refused to elaborate.

That remark clarified nothing; today it seems like obfuscation at best and prevarication at worst. Nobody is likely to believe that Emanuel spoke more than 20 times with Blagojevich or the governor's aide John Harris without informing Obama about those conversations. To insist that he had "no contact" when his top aide was involved in so many contacts is precisely the kind of parsing that undermines confidence.

Yet there should be no need for parsing, because the facts are entirely on Obama's side. To date, the evidence confirms Obama's assurance that he and his staff did nothing "inappropriate." Indeed, he may be unique among Chicago politicians, in that he has been exonerated of wrongdoing not just by a United States attorney but by the alleged criminal, who curses him roundly on tape for unwillingness to "pay for play."

Moreover, the repeated complaint by the press and the Republicans that Obama and his aides are unwilling to answer questions or release their internal investigation is simply unfair. As the president-elect and his spokespersons have explained more than once, U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald has urged them to be circumspect, if not utterly silent, while he continues his investigation. Yet the snarking has continued even after Fitzgerald released his own statement confirming that request.

Still, there are legitimate questions that need to be answered -- and it is to be hoped that answers will be forthcoming next week, when the Obama team has promised to release its own report on the Blagojevich matter. Under the direction of incoming White House counsel Greg Craig that report is already complete, and found that neither Obama nor his staff had done anything untoward in dealing with Blagojevich.

Presumably that document will include a timeline and summary of all the contacts between Emanuel (and any other Obama representatives) and Blagojevich (or his office). Beyond that basic information, journalists are certain to ask whether, for instance, the president-elect actually changed his mind about promoting top aide Valerie Jarrett for his former Senate seat, who once led his list of "acceptable" nominees, and why. Did resistance from Blagojevich, who seems cold to "Senate Candidate 1" in the federal wiretaps, have anything to do with it?

A thorough report and a press conference where Obama answers those questions fully and candidly ought to put the Blagojevich scandal to rest, as far as he is concerned. But as president there will be other scandals (and pseudo-scandals) in his future. He seems much too smart not to learn what this episode's errors can teach him.

-- By Joe Conason

[NewPhin]

One of the few political mistakes that I've seen from Obama a few times is that he sometimes comes out with an absolutist statement of denial or affirmation. This is a dangerous thing in politics.

[Ultra Peanut]

Even if they were wrong about the extent of Emanuel's contact with Blagojevich, it's not like Obama or Axelrod really stepped in it. If all the Republicans can throw at him in four years is this paper-thin Blago innuendo, he'll be a lock for re-election.

Besides that, Fitzgerald is telling Obama and his team to hold off on any disclosures in the first place:

Obama's team was planning to release its findings about contacts between Obama aides and the Illinois Governor's today. (I'm told it turned out to be "pretty milquetoast stuff.") However, when White House Counsel-to-be Greg Craig informed U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald of that, the U.S. Attorney asked him to hold off. Why? That's unclear. One possibility is that having that information in the public domain would make it more difficult for Fitzgerald to pursue leads involving other parties.

[triple]

It would completely make sense that the Obama team would have talked to Blago about this position. It would be expected. I don't know why the hell they didn't just come out in the beginning and say, "Yes, we've talked to him. No, we have not engaged in any wrongdoing or brokering for the position." Instead, they're so scared of getting tainted by this moron that they try to act like they don't even know him.

i agree with this. it would not be improper for him to work with the governor on filling the senate seat. i dont believe obama did anything wrong in that area.

but i also do not believe him for a second when he says he didnt know his staff was involved with Blago. why didn't he just tell the truth?

[BucEyedPea]

I could swear I heard the same as you. Probably why Banyon is choosing to attack me instead of addressing the issue.

Nothing to see here...LOOK AT PETE! LOOK LOOK LOOK!

He does that. He has a NeoCon streak in him too. Afterall, NC's are liberals.

[tiptap]

We are talking about getting your message out in a 20 second byte. And what needs to come out is that the Obama involvement was normal, not illegal negotiations. Therefore in getting the message out in 20 seconds you truthfully state you had no contact (that could be construed as inappropriate.) For most of the country the incidentals will just fly by because they are not relevant to any wrongdoings. Only a technical level of truth.

[splatbass]

There was no indication from sources that Emanuel brokered a deal, however.



This is the only relevant portion of your post.

[D2112]

This is un-possible.

President Obama vetted and checked his entire staff, and I was told this week that they were all clean.

You simply must stop being so inflaming of these preposterous concepts.

LMFAO!

ROFL

[D2112]

You know, you sure are racking up the post count. I'd say the majority of your posts in this thread have had nothing to do with the OP. And since most of my posts and have in response to you, well you can do the math.

But I like the persistence you have with the "blame others for what I am doing" routine. I will give you props for your stubborness if anything.

He's a liberal lawyer, it's his job to cross examine anyone that doesn't carry the party flag. he questions and questions and then the libtards pile on.

[petegz28]

i agree with this. it would not be improper for him to work with the governor on filling the senate seat. i dont believe obama did anything wrong in that area.

but i also do not believe him for a second when he says he didnt know his staff was involved with Blago. why didn't he just tell the truth?

Exactly.

[petegz28]

He's a liberal lawyer, it's his job to cross examine anyone that doesn't carry the party flag. he questions and questions and then the libtards pile on.

****ing lawyers. You know what they say about lawyers? They are like nuclear missiles, you have to have yours cause the other side has theirs. And once you use them, they **** UP EVERYTHING. :D

There are 2 lawyers in my family by the way. So yes, I am cracking a joke before someone gets their panties in a wad...

[banyon]

****ing lawyers. You know what they say about lawyers? They are like nuclear missiles, you have to have yours cause the otherside has theirs. And once you use them, they **** UP EVERYTHING. :D

There are 2 lawyers in my family by the way. So yes, I am cracking a joke before someone gets their panties in a wad...

Those jokes don't bother me.

This is my favorite:

A man died and was taken to his place of eternal torment by the devil. As he passed sulfurous pits and shrieking sinners, he saw a man he recognized as a lawyer snuggling up to a beautiful woman.

“That’s unfair !” he cried. “I have to roast for all eternity, and that lawyer gets to spend it with a beautiful woman.”

“Shut up!” barked the devil, jabbing him with his pitchfork. “Who are you to question that woman’s punishment?”

[whatsmynameagain]

game changer! seriously, this thing is under investigation, obama cant say much, and his statement, to me, was saying he had no knowledge of illegal contact between blago and any of obamas people.

i know its not the same as using wmds as an excuse for invasion and then no wmds are found, but very close. =)

[mlyonsd]

Why wouldn't Emanuel talk to the governor about the open seat? I would expect a lot of democrats talked to him about it. Unless some there is proof of some kind of a deal struck I see this as normal routine stuff.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Do I need to go over to the post you just made where you said you "thing" I am on mercury or something?LMAO

And I never said I disliked people who furthered or for furthering their education. Once again yoiu must put words in my mouth then elaborate.

This is what Banyon does, he attacks you instead of addressing the topic, or the point being made.

He's the king of the ad hominum. Adept pulls the same crap.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Why wouldn't Emanuel talk to the governor about the open seat? I would expect a lot of democrats talked to him about it. Unless some there is proof of some kind of a deal struck I see this as normal routine stuff.


Exactly. So why would B.O. lie about it?

[Taco John]

What is Immanuel being accused of here?

I don't think I understand this whole manufactured controversey.

[patteeu]

He does that. He has a NeoCon streak in him too. Afterall, NC's are liberals.

I don't see any neocon in banyon, but since you continue to prove that you don't know what a neocon is I guess it's not surprising that you do.

[Chief Henry]

I just wonder how much Blago knows about other politicians in Ill. ? I would think Blago
is in a position to broker one hell of a deal ?

[Jenson71]

What is Immanuel being accused of here?

I don't think I understand this whole manufactured controversey.

It's a petegz post. There's nothing to understand.

[banyon]

This is what Banyon does, he attacks you instead of addressing the topic, or the point being made.

He's the king of the ad hominum. Adept pulls the same crap.

This is true, after the poster has refused to discuss the substance of their claim or defend it, or contradicts themselves, or wants to change the subject there is usually little else to do besides point that out. For some people this is uncomfortable because it underscores the original hollowness of the claim.

[whatsmynameagain]

Exactly. So why would B.O. lie about it?

Lie? i dont think he was lying or trying to be deceitful, do you? he probably should of said we have had no illegal contact with the gov. being an open investigation and all, he cant be specific.

this is such a huge deal!

[Taco John]

It's a petegz post. There's nothing to understand.


As far as I can tell, the guy has absolutely no sense of political subtext.

[petegz28]

Replace Rahm with Rove and Obama with Bush and this is on the front page of the NY Times.......

[D2112]

Replace Rahm with Rove and Obama with Bush and this is on the front page of the NY Times.......

Now that's liberal biased media subtext there.

ROFL

[Ultra Peanut]

Now that's liberal biased media subtext there.

ROFLReprieve revoked. You're too shitty a poster to continue posting here.

See you next November.

[D2112]

Reprieve revoked. You're too shitty a poster to continue posting here.

See you next November.

Too late. it's been over 30 days. terms of limitation, honey.

Sorry :evil:

[Ultra Peanut]

No such thing.

If you want to Dongthan your way out of it, well, that's your right.

[D2112]

No such thing.

If you want to Dongthan your way out of it, well, that's your right.

You're the one going back on your word. not me. nice try though.

[StcChief]

This is un-possible.

President Obama vetted and checked his entire staff, and I was told this week that they were all clean.

You simply must stop being so inflaming of these preposterous concepts.yeah... that's right. and 'vote early and often' Chicago style politics has changed it's tune with BO in charge now. ROFL

[Ultra Peanut]

You're the one going back on your word. not me. nice try though.I said I would let you post here until I tired of your presence. That time is now, GoParcells.

[D2112]

I said I would let you post here until I tired of your presence. That time is now, GoParcells.

Nope, that's not what you said. you had your chance to rid me, and I was going to oblige. you went out of your way to invite me back with no terms attached. it was called a pardon. you can't undo it now.

[|Zach|]

Quite to the contrary, I've given you a ridiculous amount of opportunities to impart to us what the significance of this "news" is and you've been deathly afraid of coming anywhere near talking about it. For obvious reasons, though, it's fluff until there's something a little bit more worth giving a s*** about.

Bump

Looking forward to a clear answer to this...

Thanks in advance Pete.

[petegz28]

Bump

Looking forward to a clear answer to this...

Thanks in advance Pete.

Is your claim that this is not signicant? Regardless of what Obama has told us?


Or is this, as banyon says, "insignificant" to you as well because only Bush can be called a liar?



I look forward to a clear answer? Thanks in advance. :D

[Ultra Peanut]

Nope, that's not what you said. you had your chance to rid me, and I was going to oblige. you went out of your way to invite me back with no terms attached. it was called a pardon. Bzzzzzt. I didn't call it a pardon, and the term attached was "until I tire of your presence."

11-05-2008, 12:14 AM:

D2112, you can post here until I tire of your presence.

BIG_DADDY, you've got through Friday to post wherever. And then?

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[Chief Henry]

Replace Rahm with Rove and Obama with Bush and this is on the front page of the NY Times.......



QFT

[|Zach|]

Is your claim that this is not signicant? Regardless of what Obama has told us?


Or is this, as banyon says, "insignificant" to you as well because only Bush can be called a liar?



I look forward to a clear answer? Thanks in advance. :D

I have made no claims...but am just looking for something of substance from you.

You don't have it, but it is fun to watch to attempt.

[petegz28]

I have made no claims...but am just looking for something of substance from you.

You don't have it, but it is fun to watch to attempt.

oooooooh, you really showed me...ROFL

[|Zach|]

oooooooh, you really showed me...ROFL

Not in the least.

That wasn't what I was trying to do.

Tell whoever reads your posts for you that they are doing a shitty job.

[WilliamTheIrish]

PeteGeezus is being attacked by that mean old Lawyer King Herrod Banyon? Quit attacking PeteGeezus. And tell Adept that he cannot play the Roman soldier that jams a sword in PeteGeezus' side.

You .... attackers you.

[petegz28]

PeteGeezus is being attacked by that mean old Lawyer King Herrod Banyon? Quit attacking PeteGeezus. And tell Adept that he cannot play the Roman soldier that jams a sword in PeteGeezus' side.

You .... attackers you.

PeteGeezus? Hmmm...kinda like the sound of that. :D

[ROYC75]

Lies I tell Ya, all Lies , lies lies lies. There is no guilt by association, OK.