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bowener
12-19-2008, 07:31 PM
I did not see this anywhere when I searched, but that doesn't mean much.

Seems like a very good article to read for the topics that keep coming up in the lounge.

link (http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d80d6d12a&template=with-video-with-comments&confirm=true)

Pittsburgh's Mike Tomlin and Arizona's Ken Whisenhunt made their mark in 2007, their first season as head coaches. Three rookie coaches this season -- Atlanta's Mike Smith, Baltimore's John Harbaugh and Miami's Tony Sparano -- have their teams on the playoff doorstep.


So when teams with vacancies look for new head coaches this offseason, expect them to duplicate the concept of hiring an innovative, yet relatively inexperienced and inexpensive, assistant to flip their franchise's fortunes.
So, what candidates are most likely to make the short lists in 2009?


Tomlin went to the Steelers when he was 36, making him the youngest of the five coaches mentioned, and Smith went to the Falcons when he was 49, making him the oldest. So being under 50 seems to fit the profile.
Three of the five coaches were coordinators before taking over a team, with Sparano coming from an offensive line job and Harbaugh coming from a defensive back position, although he had been a special teams coordinator.
Having a powerful influence earlier in their careers also seems to be a factor in the coach's rise to a top job. Tomlin's roots were in the famed Tampa Bay defense, Whisenhunt had the Steelers' seal of approval, and Harbaugh learned organizational skills from the Eagles and defense from Jim Johnson. Sparano was a Bill Parcells disciple, and Smith had experience with tremendous defenses in Baltimore and Jacksonville.
With those factors in mind, here's a top-10 list of candidates for head-coaching openings after this season:


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1. Steve Spagnuolo, Giants defensive coordinator
He's 49 with 10 years of NFL experience and blasted onto the scene last season with his great game plans throughout the Giants' run to the Super Bowl. This season, he lost his two best pass rushers and still has his defense dominating. He's a communicator, and his experience comes under Tom Coughlin, Andy Reid and Johnson. If Spagnuolo wants to leave the Giants, he'll have an offer.
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2. Josh McDaniels, Patriots offensive coordinator
He's just 32, but he already has eight years of NFL experience under coach Bill Belichick and player personnel executive Scott Pioli. The job the Patriots offense did this season without injured quarterback Tom Brady (http://www.nfl.com/players/tombrady/profile?id=BRA371156) makes McDaniels an intriguing candidate.


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3. Leslie Frazier, Vikings defensive coordinator
He's 49 and played five seasons with the Bears before logging 10 years as an NFL coach. This season, he has Minnesota's defense ranked eighth in the NFL, drawing on lessons learned from mentors Johnson, Tony Dungy and Marvin Lewis.


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4. Jason Garrett, Cowboys offensive coordinator
He's 42 with 12 years of experience as an NFL quarterback and was a hot candidate last year in just his third season as an assistant coach. He's accustomed to the spotlight in Dallas, so a big-market team will want to recruit him. Garrett is one of the brightest coaches in the NFL and comes from a football family, like Harbaugh.


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5. Raheem Morris, Buccaneers defensive backs coach
He's just 32 with six years of NFL coaching experience, but he's on the radar because he's following in the footsteps of Tomlin, Lovie Smith and Herm Edwards, who all coached Tampa Bay's secondary with great success. Morris appears to be the probable candidate to replace Monte Kiffin as the Bucs' defensive coordinator, but some owner will move Morris to the top of the list after interviewing him.


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6. Jim Schwartz, Titans defensive coordinator
He's 42 and a 14-year coach who's running the NFL's fourth-ranked defense. His mentor is Jeff Fisher, and that carries a lot of weight in the league.




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7. Ron Rivera, Chargers defensive coordinator
He's 46 with nine years of experience as a player with the Bears and 12 years as an NFL assistant. He was a solid candidate after his defense helped the Bears reach Super Bowl XLI, but no head-coaching offers materialized. He then parted ways with Chicago and surfaced in San Diego as the linebackers coach. He replaced Ted Cotrell as defensive coordinator in midseason and is back on the radar.
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8. Todd Haley, Cardinals offensive coordinator
He's 41 and running a fourth-ranked offense that's sending a quarterback and two wide receivers to the Pro Bowl. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game, which comes from his time under Parcells with the Jets and Cowboys. NFC West teams know him the best, but he's also the son of longtime personnel executive Dick Haley.


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9. Brian Schottenheimer, Jets offensive coordinator
The 35-year-old son of former NFL coach Marty Schottenheimer was on short lists a few years ago, but the Jets offense slipped in 2007, and so did he. This season, the 10-year assistant has the Jets ranked third in points scored and could receive another look.


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10. Jeff Davidson, Panthers offensive coordinator
He's 41, with four years as an NFL player and 14 years as an assistant, and has served under Belichick, Pete Carroll and John Fox. Carolina runs the ball and built its team around the offensive line, but Davidson still knows how to get the ball to other playmakers such as wide receiver Steve Smith.
Sorry if repost.

cdcox
12-19-2008, 07:37 PM
Very few pass-oriented OC's on that list.

Skip Towne
12-19-2008, 07:39 PM
Which one of these guys are we going to Peter Principle to the next level?

CoMoChief
12-19-2008, 07:42 PM
Spagnuolo, Schwartz, or Garrett from that list.

Personally I like Spagnuolo, talk about someone whos done a lot with a little this season

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-19-2008, 08:09 PM
Spagnuolo, Schwartz, or Garrett from that list.

Personally I like Spagnuolo, talk about someone whos done a lot with a little this season

Justin Tuck and Kiwi are light years better than anything we have on our D-Line.

Mr. Laz
12-19-2008, 08:19 PM
Justin Tuck and Kiwi are light years better than anything we have on our D-Line.
we really don't know that

if justin tuck came to the chiefs he probably would of been cut or something stupid.

good coaches may not MAKE good players but bad coaches can sure kill players.

mikey23545
12-19-2008, 08:25 PM
I like Garrettt and Schwartz from that list.

Count Alex's Wins
12-19-2008, 09:02 PM
http://www.nfl.com/static/content//public/static/img/teams/coaching/TEN/Schwartz_Jim.jpgPass on Schwartz. He just looks too mentally retarded. Ding gamepwan's dun!

Count Alex's Wins
12-19-2008, 09:03 PM
http://www.nfl.com/static/content/catch_all/nfl_image/Davidson_Jeff.jpg
10. Jeff Davidson, Panthers offensive coordinator
He's 41, with four years as an NFL player and 14 years as an assistant, and has served under Belichick, Pete Carroll and John Fox. Carolina runs the ball and built its team around the offensive line, but Davidson still knows how to get the ball to other playmakers such as wide receiver Steve Smith.I kind of dig this cat. Three very good coaches and I love the way Carolina runs their offense. His playing experience is a plus some of the others lack.

Plus if he shaves his head he'll fit in with the Chiefsplanet status quo.

ChiefsCountry
12-19-2008, 09:05 PM
Pass on Schwartz. He just looks too mentally retarded. Ding gamepwan's dun!

You do realize he is one of the smartest guys in football.

Deberg_1990
12-19-2008, 09:06 PM
Schottenheimer, Brian Schottenheimer

Count Alex's Wins
12-19-2008, 09:07 PM
You do realize he is one of the smartest guys in football.

I bet he doesn't have a degree in chemistry like this smart motherfucker:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0emi95k8Q34tm/340x.jpg

MikeMaslowski
12-19-2008, 09:08 PM
He looks like he just got busted by Datelines to Catch a predator!

pick em'

Count Alex's Wins
12-19-2008, 09:08 PM
Spagnuolo looks like a porn star.

MikeMaslowski
12-19-2008, 09:09 PM
i just came over for the cookies......

ChiefsCountry
12-19-2008, 09:15 PM
How funny would it be if one of those Catch the Preadtor guys just wanted to meet Chris Hanson, shows up with pictures for him to sign and stuff like that.

Count Alex's Wins
12-19-2008, 09:16 PM
How funny would it be if one of those Catch the Preadtor guys just wanted to meet Chris Hanson, shows up with pictures for him to sign and stuff like that.

Good insurance plan in the event one was to get busted.

Note that I said "one," not, "I," FBI.

mikey23545
12-19-2008, 09:22 PM
Pass on Schwartz. He just looks too mentally retarded. Ding gamepwan's dun!

There's only one retarded motherfucker in this thread, and he's also the only virgin.

kstater
12-19-2008, 09:29 PM
There's only one retarded motherfucker in this thread, and he's also the only virgin.

I didn't know you were a virgin.

Count Alex's Wins
12-19-2008, 09:32 PM
On second thought, hiring Schwartz would result in an endless amount of Spaceballs jokes.

bowener
12-20-2008, 02:04 AM
On second thought, hiring Schwartz would result in an endless amount of Spaceballs jokes.

All kidding aside, are you really a virgin? Don't be ashamed.

Count Alex's Wins
12-20-2008, 02:07 AM
All kidding aside, are you really a virgin? Don't be ashamed.

LOL what an odd place for this post. Yes, I'm a virgin. I'm not really ashamed, just desperate.

'Hamas' Jenkins
12-20-2008, 02:11 AM
LOL what an odd place for this post. Yes, I'm a virgin. I'm not really ashamed, just desperate.

All we have to do now
Is take these lies
And make them true
Somehow
All we have to seeeeeeeeeeeeee
Is that I don't belong to you
And you don't belong to me
Yeah Yeah!!

BryanBusby
12-20-2008, 02:43 AM
I think Steve Spagnuolo needs a bit more time as a Defensive Coordinator before he's ready to step on up. Jim Schwartz would be a great hire though. He's spent a lot of time learning from one of the best coaches in the league and his Defense always plays well.

T-post Tom
12-20-2008, 02:53 AM
No mention of any Chiefs' coaches? Well, isn't that a surprise? :doh!:

Darth CarlSatan
12-20-2008, 03:18 AM
Pass on Schwartz. He just looks too mentally retarded. Ding gamepwan's dun!

ROFL

He does have that "I played QB at Texas/OU" look to him, don't he?

Darth CarlSatan
12-20-2008, 03:20 AM
I bet he doesn't have a degree in chemistry like this smart motherfucker:

http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/0emi95k8Q34tm/340x.jpg

ROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFLROFL

Darth CarlSatan
12-20-2008, 03:25 AM
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"I'm not just a member of the Petro Institute for Dated Male Style and Grooming, I'm the President".

Darth CarlSatan
12-20-2008, 03:30 AM
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"That Corolla is YOU; Step in to my office"! "Save by zero"!

mylittlepony
12-20-2008, 03:44 AM
Im kinda pissed when we were looking for an OC I was talking up Jeff Davidson bigtime and how he made the browns one of the best O-teams in the league last year. Now after Carolina has exploded he is even seen as a potential head coach. He could have been a Chief.:banghead:

Tribal Warfare
12-20-2008, 04:01 AM
Spagnuolo looks like a porn star.

He's a dead ringer for Tommy Gunn

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Darth CarlSatan
12-20-2008, 04:08 AM
Very few pass-oriented OC's on that list.


If we're talking about HC acquisition, OC's are not going to be given preferential status in my book. We've got a OC turned HC, turned OC already, and what we need is a true defensive-minded Head Coach.

Not a pretender like Werm.

KCChiefsMan
12-20-2008, 04:28 AM
I don't think Brian Schottenheimer would feel too welcome here