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Tribal Warfare
12-22-2008, 10:07 PM
Edwards still feels youth movement was way to go for Chiefs (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/949045.html)
By ADAM TEICHER
The Kansas City Star

Herm Edwards might pay for it with the loss of his job, but he remains convinced the massive youth movement he embraced for the Chiefs was the proper way to go.

Even knowing how the season turned out — the Chiefs are 2-13, giving them the most losses in club history — Edwards said Monday that he would be willing to go this route again.

“This was the right thing to do for the organization,” Edwards said. “I said that from the beginning. When you do something like this, you’re doing it for the right reasons. That’s something I thought about and we all thought about, but it was the correct thing to do. This is going to be a good football team. There’s no doubt about that.

“If you go back and look at how we’ve played, (starting) from the Jet game we’ve played pretty consistent. That’s what you want to see from a young football team. The disappointing part is that you play all of those games and you’ve got a chance to win some of those games and you don’t quite get it done. That’s the thing that leaves you a little disappointed. You’re so close and you could have some more wins than you have right now.

“The experience this team has gained will help them next year. These games we let slip away will be ones that you win.”

They may not be games Edwards wins. The Chiefs finish their season with Sunday’s game at 3-11-1 Cincinnati.

Soon after, chairman Clark Hunt will hire a general manager, and the two will then decide whether Edwards will be allowed to return for the final year of his contract.

Youth movement or not, it will be difficult for them to ignore Edwards’ record. The Chiefs have lost 22 of their last 24 games going back to last season.

Edwards said he was satisfied he’s done all he could under the circumstances.

“I believe (the Chiefs are) well-coached,” he said. “It’s a young team. It’s gained a lot of experience.

“We’ve done a good job in dealing with all of the adversity that happened around this team. Think about all of the things that have happened to this football team, whether it be on the field, off the field, the changes we had to make on both sides of the ball due to some injuries, for the most part we’ve handled it the best way we knew how as a football staff.”

Between Larry Johnson’s benching and suspension, Tony Gonzalez’s request for a trade and last week’s announcement that Carl Peterson would be out as president and general manager, the Chiefs have had more than a season’s worth of distractions.

Judging from the results on Sundays, they didn’t seem to have much effect on the Chiefs, who if nothing else showed a keen ability to keep their heads down.

“They continued to play with tremendous effort,” Edwards said. “They don’t always do everything right, but the effort has been there for the most part, and that’s what you hope for as a coach.

“They’ve dealt with every situation that’s come up. They’ve handled it in a great manner, professionally. They’ve done a great job of focusing on the task at hand, and that’s win a game.”

The Chiefs improved dramatically on offense once Tyler Thigpen stabilized their quarterback play. The undoing of the 2008 Chiefs, and perhaps Edwards and his staff, was the inability to make significant gains on defense.

Edwards said he and his defensive coaches, led by coordinator Gunther Cunningham, tried everything they could think of, from lineup moves to strategical changes.

Nothing worked.

“You can only do what your players can do,” Edwards said. “There a lot of things we know these guys are capable of doing. There are some things they’re not capable of doing, and we’ve got to stay away from them.”

Many Chiefs players recently began lining up in support of Edwards. None was as eloquent as Pro Bowl guard Brian Waters.

“Herm is without a shadow of a doubt the most resilient person in this locker room or in this organization.” Waters said. “He’s had great resolve throughout all of it. If anybody’s led by example, it’s him. He’s come to work with the same attitude and the same energy, and he’s not let this situation or even this season affect him in one way or another.

“I don’t know too many head coaches that would be able to hold it together going through the things we’ve had to go through. I have a great amount of respect for him because of that. A lot of coaches in a situation like this would be looking for the door. They’d be looking for the way out. Herm’s right there in front ready to take on all comers.”

Douche Baggins
12-22-2008, 10:08 PM
No shit? Everyone still feels that way, dumbass.

Unfortunately YOU were not the way to go.

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:09 PM
No shit? Everyone still feels that way, dumbass.

Unfortunately YOU were not the way to go.

QFT....

Youth movement + Herm = Epic Fail

Youth movement + real NFL coach = championship... ( well at least a legitament shot )

cdcox
12-22-2008, 10:10 PM
No shit? Everyone still feels that way, dumbass.

Unfortunately YOU were not the way to go.

This.

DMAC
12-22-2008, 10:11 PM
Proof that the youth movement was the way to go: Barth.

Fruit Ninja
12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
Youth movement was definitely the right way to go. I just dont think Herm is that good a coach to take a team to the next level.

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
Nice to hear Herm refer to the team as "they"... Sounds to me like he has given up, not that is surprising, he has "given up" on the team before during games...

And Waters can STFU

DeezNutz
12-22-2008, 10:12 PM
Still, not one time in that article, not one fucking time, does Herm take responsibility for anything.

I'd be more apt to give him some credit if he would stand up, just once, and say, "I didn't get it done. I need to do a better job of coaching these young guys." Or something to this effect.

Fruit Ninja
12-22-2008, 10:14 PM
Nice to hear Herm refer to the team as "they"... Sounds to me like he has given up, not that is surprising, he has "given up" on the team before during games...

And Waters can STFU

I think Herm always uses they. That means he doesnt have to ever USE WE, so its not his fault.

chief52
12-22-2008, 10:16 PM
Still, not one time in that article, not one ****ing time, does Herm take responsibility for anything.

I'd be more apt to give him some credit if he would stand up, just once, and say, "I didn't get it done. I need to do a better job of coaching these young guys." Or something to this effect.

Or at least say "If I had it to do over again, I would do things a little differently, but overall..." Something like that. He is acting like this is acceptable performance.

" You play to win the game!" You are 2-22 in your last 24 games!!!

blueballs
12-22-2008, 10:16 PM
quack quack quack
sound of dragging foot
quack

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:19 PM
Still, not one time in that article, not one ****ing time, does Herm take responsibility for anything.

I'd be more apt to give him some credit if he would stand up, just once, and say, "I didn't get it done. I need to do a better job of coaching these young guys." Or something to this effect.

I think Herm always uses they. That means he doesnt have to ever USE WE, so its not his fault.

He is just a chicken shit coward... 2-22 over your last 24 and you dont think just once, your dipshittery isnt part of the problem...

The only way this team ever gets better is to remove the probelm, So see ya Herm...

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:28 PM
He believes the youth is the way to go?

He believes that his coaching is HOF worthy?

He believes that he cant control what is going on on the field?

Why is he our coach again?

Is it his marginal talent evaluation abilities? Gameday skills? Why?

Fruit Ninja
12-22-2008, 10:31 PM
He is just a chicken shit coward... 2-22 over your last 24 and you dont think just once, your dipshittery isnt part of the problem...

The only way this team ever gets better is to remove the probelm, So see ya Herm...

Oh i am sure he knows, but he's not the type to admit it.

I cant wait for him to hit the road myself. 2-24 is completely unacceptable. I dont care what team you are coaching. Especially when you lose so many games by 7 points or less.

Guru
12-22-2008, 10:32 PM
Ladies and Gentleman... The Spinning Herms.

Guru
12-22-2008, 10:33 PM
Oh i am sure he knows, but he's not the type to admit it.

I cant wait for him to hit the road myself. 2-24 is completely unacceptable. I dont care what team you are coaching. Especially when you lose so many games by 7 points or less.It really pissed me off yesterday in the presser when he said "they" don't know how to finish.:cuss: It's "WE" coach.

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:36 PM
It really pissed me off yesterday in the presser when he said "they" don't know how to finish.:cuss: It's "WE" coach.

Funny, but when has Herm ever truly finished a game off right? His fucking play not to win, keep it close bullshit, doesnt cut it...

He is the biggest fraud when it comes down to him trying to win a game or hoping to God the other team makes a mistake so he can boast about how he played to win the game...

Tribal Warfare
12-22-2008, 10:37 PM
It really pissed me off yesterday in the presser when he said "they" don't know how to finish.:cuss: It's "WE" coach.

You'd think the players would get sick of that type of shit.

Fruit Ninja
12-22-2008, 10:39 PM
You'd think the players would get sick of that type of shit.

While i am on the fuck Herm bandwagon. I will even drive the damn thing. The players themselves also have to take into account they are on the field and its up to them to stop someone as well. THey simply cant. Maybe that is due to coaching, but at least 1 fucking game, iw ould love to see them stop someone in crunch time. Just once. Never happens.

Guru
12-22-2008, 10:40 PM
You'd think the players would get sick of that type of shit.They are obviously drinking some vile potion in the locker room for these players to be supporting him. Especially TG.

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:40 PM
Maybe he could sell Shamwows?

He is a great bull shitter...

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:40 PM
They are obviously drinking some vile potion in the locker room for these players to be supporting him. Especially TG.

Hell look at Waters... He is balls deep on Herm...

BryanBusby
12-22-2008, 10:41 PM
Maybe he could sell Shamwows?

He is a great bull shitter...

Now here is the 9 million dollar question. Who would he throw under the bus if he did not make his quota on selling Shamwows?

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:45 PM
Now here is the 9 million dollar question. Who would he throw under the bus if he did not make his quota on selling Shamwows?

:shrug: maybe the little old lady that answers the phone?

Douche Baggins
12-22-2008, 10:47 PM
We shouldn't be surprised that ANY veteran supports Herm Edwards. The last thing they want at this point is another coaching change.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-22-2008, 10:49 PM
Brian Waters-- “Herm is without a shadow of a doubt the most resilient person in this locker room or in this organization.” Waters said. “He’s had great resolve throughout all of it. If anybody’s led by example, it’s him. He’s come to work with the same attitude and the same energy, and he’s not let this situation or even this season affect him in one way or another.

“I don’t know too many head coaches that would be able to hold it together going through the things we’ve had to go through. I have a great amount of respect for him because of that. A lot of coaches in a situation like this would be looking for the door. They’d be looking for the way out. Herm’s right there in front ready to take on all comers.”

Blah blah blah he's black so I'm taking up for him blah blah blah he can do no wrong blah blah blah blah. hahahahaha :)

TEX
12-22-2008, 10:50 PM
What a joke. A better coached team would have won more - period. End of discussion Herm. You did a sorry ass job of coaching and an equally pathetic job of assembling a staff.

TEX
12-22-2008, 10:52 PM
While i am on the **** Herm bandwagon. I will even drive the damn thing. The players themselves also have to take into account they are on the field and its up to them to stop someone as well. THey simply cant. Maybe that is due to coaching, but at least 1 ****ing game, iw ould love to see them stop someone in crunch time. Just once. Never happens.


Herm was supposed to "fix the defense" He's had 3 years and its just as bad as it was under DV. How much more time does he get???

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:54 PM
Brian Waters-- “Herm is without a shadow of a doubt the most resilient person in this locker room or in this organization.” Waters said. “He’s had great resolve throughout all of it. If anybody’s led by example, it’s him. He’s come to work with the same attitude and the same energy, and he’s not let this situation or even this season affect him in one way or another.

“I don’t know too many head coaches that would be able to hold it together going through the things we’ve had to go through. I have a great amount of respect for him because of that. A lot of coaches in a situation like this would be looking for the door. They’d be looking for the way out. Herm’s right there in front ready to take on all comers.”

Blah blah blah he's black so I'm taking up for him blah blah blah he can do no wrong blah blah blah blah. hahahahaha :)

VT throwing out the race card? Little early in the hand to bring out the big guns isnt?

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:54 PM
Herm was supposed to "fix the defense" He's had 3 years and its just as bad as it was under DV. How much more time does he get???

he probably needs a few more drafts to address the DL...

BryanBusby
12-22-2008, 10:55 PM
We shouldn't be surprised that ANY veteran supports Herm Edwards. The last thing they want at this point is another coaching change.

Obviously. If I were a veteran, I wouldn't want to give up the Club Ed training camps.

Chiefs Pantalones
12-22-2008, 10:59 PM
VT throwing out the race card? Little early in the hand to bring out the big guns isnt?

lol someone was gonna do it! ;)

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 10:59 PM
lol someone was gonna do it! ;)

More power to ya!

Chiefs Pantalones
12-22-2008, 11:01 PM
More power to ya!

Why else would a player be supportive of him? Other than his soft as toilet paper training camp and veteran player-friendly practices.

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 11:03 PM
Why else would a player be supportive of him? Other than his soft as toilet paper training camp and veteran player-friendly practices.

Oh I am not disagreeing... I have grown tired of Waters constant massaging of the prostate on his weekly interviews....

Ari Chi3fs
12-22-2008, 11:08 PM
Still, not one time in that article, not one ****ing time, does Herm take responsibility for anything.

I'd be more apt to give him some credit if he would stand up, just once, and say, "I didn't get it done. I need to do a better job of coaching these young guys." Or something to this effect.

The Hermxcuse is almost a cliche. I don't even think he realizes how much that he DOESN'T take responsibility. He acts like he is flawless and justified in his mediocrity.

Reerun_KC
12-22-2008, 11:08 PM
The Hermxcuse is a almost a cliche. I don't even think he realizes how much that he DOESN'T take responsibility. He acts like he is flawless and justified in his mediocrity.

Ari, Herm is not even Mediocrity....

Darth CarlSatan
12-22-2008, 11:09 PM
Edwards still feels youth movement was way to go for Chiefs (http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/949045.html)



"Second verse, same as the first" says Tiecher who writes the same fucking piece as his fellow sportswriter.

What the fuck would this guy do if it were mandatory to find your own story and/or angle!?!?

BCD
12-23-2008, 01:42 AM
I love a youth movement. You just shouldn't have a retarded coaching staff doing it.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 07:42 AM
Obviously. If I were a veteran, I wouldn't want to give up the Club Ed training camps.

This, that is why people are speaking out... Less they have to do to earn those game checks...

ChiefsCountry
12-23-2008, 07:52 AM
Herm has gotten us the next Warren Sapp and hopefully the next John Elway. He is doing a good job, keep it up one more week Hermie.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 07:57 AM
Herm has gotten us the next Warren Sapp and hopefully the next John Elway. He is doing a good job, keep it up one more week Hermie.

ROFL