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ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 05:55 PM
First road game. How will they do?

Late start. 9:30pm Central on FSN.

eazyb81
12-23-2008, 05:57 PM
Good luck guys. Arizona pretty much sucks now that Lute has been gone awhile though.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 06:08 PM
Good luck guys. Arizona pretty much sucks now that Lute has been gone awhile though.Nice. Guess I deserve that. But Arizona is an elite school.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 06:34 PM
Where are all the KU fans at? Did the MU basketball fans run you guys off?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 06:35 PM
I am here....

It should be a good game, but this team is flaky, flaky to no extent... Not sure what to expect with them...

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 06:36 PM
AZ favored by 2.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 06:38 PM
AZ favored by 2.

I like being the underdog.

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 06:39 PM
I like being the underdog.

I like being a 40 point favorite.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 06:39 PM
What channel is the game on? I dont feel like looking....

TrickyNicky
12-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Fox Sports Midwest here

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 06:45 PM
Ch. 671

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 06:46 PM
Ch. 671

Thanks MR Fair and Balanced.... :D

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 06:48 PM
MU losing 20-9. First half.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 06:51 PM
MU losing 20-9. First half.

:eek:

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 07:00 PM
The question all year is going to be: Which KU team is going to show up tonight?

DJay23
12-23-2008, 07:14 PM
I have a bad feeling about this game. For some reason I think we get stomped in this one. Hope I'm wrong obviously.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 07:15 PM
The question all year is going to be: Which KU team is going to show up tonight?

Who knows, we were so spoiled.... Now who knows... This team has zero depth and very little talent on the bench...

Ari Chi3fs
12-23-2008, 07:18 PM
KU wins double digits... 11 point win.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 07:18 PM
KU wins double digits... 11 point win.


Lets hope!

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 07:45 PM
I really don't think this KU team has as much "talent" on it as some think. I really think we are young with a lot of 4 year, solid type players.

No Rush, Chalmers, Arthur type players.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 07:54 PM
I really don't think this KU team has as much "talent" on it as some think. I really think we are young with a lot of 4 year, solid type players.

No Rush, Chalmers, Arthur type players.

I feel that type of players are coming next year.. This just feels like a muligan year...

Ceej
12-23-2008, 08:15 PM
Who guards Budinger?

My guess would be Taylor, albeit he's much shorter. But, he's long. The Morris' brothers are too slow to guard him. And please God - don't allow Brady Morningstar to try and guard him.

PUT IN RELEFORD!

Saulbadguy
12-23-2008, 08:20 PM
The rest of the Big XII North is sucking it up tonight.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 08:26 PM
Who guards Budinger?

My guess would be Taylor, albeit he's much shorter. But, he's long. The Morris' brothers are too slow to guard him. And please God - don't allow Brady Morningstar to try and guard him.

PUT IN RELEFORD!
Quit doubting Morningstar.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 08:29 PM
Too late.

I'd rather have Taylor guarding him then Morningstar.

Craqhead
12-23-2008, 08:30 PM
we win bye 6

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 08:32 PM
we win bye 6

bye?

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 08:51 PM
40 minutes to gametime.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 09:06 PM
I feel that type of players are coming next year.. This just feels like a muligan year...

I agree. Frankly, I'm not impressed with the Morris twins. They can rebound, but dear Lord don't let them shoot it.

Taylor has been impressive....at least to me. Needs some work on finishing. But he reminds me of a Chalmers/Robinson mix.

Like you said, I'm really not expecting much. I'd like to see us stay around the top 25 and get into the tourney....maybe win a game or two....and I'd like to see North Carolina Hansbraws fall flat on their face. Other than that, it's a growing year.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 09:07 PM
Quit doubting Morningstar.

LOL. He can shoot a little bit, but the guy should be sitting next to Kleinman.

chief52
12-23-2008, 09:09 PM
The rest of the Big XII North is sucking it up tonight.

:)

Nebraska Cornhuskers 64

University of Maryland Baltimore County 66

FINAL....

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 09:12 PM
:)

Nebraska Cornhuskers 64

University of Maryland Baltimore County 66

FINAL....
ROFL

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:14 PM
Well we got beat by UMASS... I mean come on!

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 09:15 PM
Well we got beat by UMASS... I mean come on!

UMass....a team with County in their name. Come on thats not even close.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:18 PM
UMass....a team with County in their name. Come on thats not even close.

OH, my bad.... I didnt realize that, I thought you were being funny...

Silock
12-23-2008, 09:20 PM
Anyone got a streaming link for those of us traveling this holiday season?

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 09:24 PM
There is no way I am making it through this whole game. I'll be lucky to get through the half.

Worked 8a-7:30p yesterday. Then, got called back to work 11p-2a. Sleep at 3am. Up by 7am. Back to work 12p-4p. And now I'm working from home. Haven't eaten in 2 days. Getting ready to have a sandwich. If I'm awake in 30 minutes, I'll be surprised.

Ari Chi3fs
12-23-2008, 09:27 PM
Chase Buddinger is hitting 60% of 3's they said.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:28 PM
Chase Buddinger is hitting 60% of 3's they said.

Dear God that isnt good...

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 09:37 PM
KU up 7-4 early. KU has 3 frosh on the floor.

chief52
12-23-2008, 09:38 PM
Anyone got a streaming link for those of us traveling this holiday season?

Check the TV. Game in on lots of Fox Sports Nets throughout the country. I just checked my DTV and it is being played all over.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 09:45 PM
Morningstar is pretty good on defense......:rolleyes:

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:47 PM
Well not a bad start...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 09:49 PM
Taylor is going to be a stud..... kid just knows how to play.....

Kyle DeLexus
12-23-2008, 09:51 PM
Taylor is going to be a stud..... kid just knows how to play.....

I agree 100%. I love watching this kid play with a little more experience, he is going to be a special player.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 09:51 PM
Hawks really to need to hit the glass harder....... AZ is getting 2-3 chances every possesion.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 09:53 PM
Nice to see the drive-alley oop play again; almost seemed it went away with Darrell Arthur.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:55 PM
They seem to be getting better each game... They look pretty solid tonight...

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 09:59 PM
Budinger silent. Thanks Morningstar.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:00 PM
Morris twins playing great tonight!

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:02 PM
Budinger silent. Thanks Morningstar.

Budinger shooting....just not well.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:03 PM
Still flashes of brilliance, then followed up by youth...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:04 PM
Shit, Taylor.... were you passing that to your GF in the 10th row?

Kyle DeLexus
12-23-2008, 10:04 PM
Nice to see the drive-alley oop play again; almost seemed it went away with Darrell Arthur.

Was just talking about this at the game saturday with a few of my friends. One of the things this team has lacked doing is attacking the rim. That play has been a big part of their offense for a few years now and not only is it a very high percentage play but there are few other things that can get the Field House rocking as loud.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Shit, Taylor.... were you passing that to your GF in the 10th row?ROFL

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:05 PM
Budinger shooting....just not well.

There's a reason for that.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:06 PM
There's a reason for that.

Kaun sucks /CoMoChief

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:07 PM
This is a crazy game...


We are moving the ball so well!

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:07 PM
There's a reason for that.

The breeze Morningstar causes when he catches up to him?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:08 PM
Self seems awful relaxed with this young team...

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:09 PM
The breeze Morningstar causes when he catches up to him?

Morningstar seems to be playing some solid d

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:10 PM
I'm sorry. I know I allow my dislike of seeing Morningstar on the floor hinder my opinion of how he is playing - but at the beginning of the game, he was a full 2-3 steps behind Budinger.

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:10 PM
Where are the hot AZ cheerleaders?

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:11 PM
They're at UCLA this year.

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:12 PM
I'm sorry. I know I allow my dislike of seeing Morningstar on the floor hinder my opinion of how he is playing - but at the beginning of the game, he was a full 2-3 steps behind Budinger.

Give it up, comochief

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:13 PM
Budinger scoreless, nice rebound by Morningstar.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:13 PM
I'm not that bad. I actually thought Kaun was a valuable asset to the team - both defensively and rebounding wise. He even threw in some points every so often.

Like I said....Morningstar can at least shoot the ball.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:14 PM
So far not a bad half for this young team.... They are hanging with a solid AZ team on the road.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:18 PM
I like Self's rotating of Aldrich at the end there; save him from his habit of picking up a cheap ass foul like he did 3 seconds into the game.

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:18 PM
It's a good thing Budinger didn't score. We'd be behind.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:18 PM
We are so lucky to have Bill Self at KU

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:18 PM
I don't know if I'd call Arizona "solid" just yet this year.


Just sayin'.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:20 PM
I don't know if I'd call Arizona "solid" just yet this year.


Just sayin'.

Okay, but being on the road in that environment against a team like AZ with the fans, we are handling it ipretty well..

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:20 PM
I like Self's rotating of Aldrich at the end there; save him from his habit of picking up a cheap ass foul like he did 3 seconds into the game.

If he could keep his fouls under control, he'd be unstoppable. He has so much potential to be the best big in the country. He's learning. He looks good this year, minus the fouls.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:20 PM
For your halftime entertainment Katie Morgan is sitting around naked on HBO again.

Lzen
12-23-2008, 10:20 PM
I think this is better than a lot of people expected. A very young team with its first true road test and they lead by 3 at halftime. Nice. The only thing that concerns me is that a scorer like Buddinger usually finds a way to get points. Hope he doesn't start hitting his stride in the 2nd half.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:21 PM
I think this is better than a lot of people expected. A very young team with its first true road test and they lead by 3 at halftime. Nice. The only thing that concerns me is that a scorer like Buddinger usually finds a way to get points. Hope he doesn't start hitting his stride in the 2nd half.

I agree. Hopefully if Sherron or Cole shows up the second half that will cancel out Budinger (if he does) scoring some.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:21 PM
Ahhhh boobies.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 10:22 PM
Not bad for their first half on the road. Another like it and they get their first road win.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:22 PM
Is one of her boobs bigger than the other?

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:23 PM
So far I'd like to eat crow for being a Brady hater. He's not a pretty solid job on Budinger so far.


Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of his.


WE WANT RELEFOOOORDDDD!

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:23 PM
I agree. Hopefully if Sherron or Cole shows up the second half that will cancel out Budinger (if he does) scoring some.

Aldrich only had 1 point; so as long as he gets his game going we should be fine.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:24 PM
So far I'd like to eat crow for being a Brady hater. He's not a pretty solid job on Budinger so far.


Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of his.


WE WANT RELEFOOOORDDDD!

Mario Little :shrug:

The dude make Brodie Croyle look like and NFL Ironman...

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:25 PM
I would also take Mario Little over Mornigstar.

It's just unfortunate he has sand in his 'giner.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 10:25 PM
So far I'd like to eat crow for being a Brady hater. He's not a pretty solid job on Budinger so far.


Regardless, I'm not a huge fan of his.


WE WANT RELEFOOOORDDDD!
Releford had a nice block out on Budinger while he was in. He may be getting closer to getting some quality minutes.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 10:25 PM
I would also take Mario Little over Mornigstar.

It's just unfortunate he has sand in his 'giner.

:doh!: Thats a little harsh.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:26 PM
:doh!: Thats a little harsh.

Yeah a little harsh...

Not sure what KU is going to do with him?

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:27 PM
I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:28 PM
I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.

Fair Enough....

I was hoping Little and Appleton both would make an impact on this team... Well so much for hoping...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:28 PM
I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.


I wouldn't mind seeing Self throw a redshirt on him; although I am anxious to see him play also.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 10:28 PM
I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.

The best thing for us could be a redshirt. Next year's team should be pretty sweet.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 10:29 PM
I was sort of sarcastic.


I'm just trying to not get my hopes up. We've not had the greatest luck with transfers.


I know Little will be different then the past though - well, at least I'm hoping so.
Jeff Graves turned out OK.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:30 PM
I am stoked about Johnson and Robinson coming in next year... Plus if we can get Wall and Stephenson... Dude we will back to rolling again...

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:30 PM
I too am all for a redshirt on Little.

I'm just weary of guys like Reed, Releford and Morningstar when it comes to conference time.

Maybe I should worry less.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:30 PM
The best thing for us could be a redshirt. Next year's team should be pretty sweet.

I wouldnt redshirt him if it cost us Stephenson and/or Wall...

Not worth it...

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:32 PM
Jeff Graves turned out OK.

Oh, definitely so. I had forgotten about him. It's easy to do when you think of Lester Earl and Luke Axtell. Ew.

Jeff Graves turned out to be a solid big man.


I decided to youtube Royce Woolridge, one of our (2010, or 2011) commits and he gets me giddy. In some weird sort of way, I think I'm most giddy about him then some of our other guys coming in.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Oh, definitely so. I had forgotten about him. It's easy to do when you think of Lester Earl and Luke Axtell. Ew.

Jeff Graves turned out to be a solid big man.


I decided to youtube Royce Woolridge, one of our (2010, or 2011) commits and he gets me giddy. In some weird sort of way, I think I'm most giddy about him then some of our other guys coming in.

Hes only a 3 star....

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Oh, definitely so. I had forgotten about him. It's easy to do when you think of Lester Earl and Luke Axtell. Ew.

Jeff Graves turned out to be a solid big man.


I decided to youtube Royce Woolridge, one of our (2010, or 2011) commits and he gets me giddy. In some weird sort of way, I think I'm most giddy about him then some of our other guys coming in.
I believe I read somewhere that Royce would attend tonights game.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Nice start to the half.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:34 PM
Yeah, he is at tonight's game.

And ree-run, ratings don't mean a whole lot to me. Sorry.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:35 PM
in 2010, I want Harrison Barnes and Roscoe Smith....

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:35 PM
Yeah, he is at tonight's game.

And ree-run, ratings don't mean a whole lot to me. Sorry.

Okay...

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 10:35 PM
Really nice start to the half.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:36 PM
Good start for the 2nd half.....

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:37 PM
Ahhhh boobies.

Where?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:38 PM
AZ is picking up fouls

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:39 PM
Yeah, he is at tonight's game.

And ree-run, ratings don't mean a whole lot to me. Sorry.

Nor should they. He's pretty stupid.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:40 PM
Nor should they. He's pretty stupid.


:rolleyes:

Okay Skip...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Wow that Pac 10 commercial sure overstates themselves.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:41 PM
Refs with some pretty quick whistles so far in the second half..


Paging Sherron Collins...

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:43 PM
Time for Collins and Aldrich to take control of this game...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:43 PM
Refs with some pretty quick whistles so far in the second half..


Paging Sherron Collins...

Big 12 refs must have called at halftime and got in the asses of the Pac 10 refs.......

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:44 PM
Refs with some pretty quick whistles so far in the second half..


Paging Sherron Collins...



You called??

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:44 PM
Wow that Pac 10 commercial sure overstates themselves.

yeah pretty cheesy!

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:44 PM
Quit turning the ball over, please. Goodness.


And get a fricken' rebound.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:45 PM
Seems Buddinger is the Pac 10 glory boy version of Hansborough listening to these announcers.

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 10:48 PM
Quit turning the ball over, please. Goodness.


And get a fricken' rebound.

Morningstar can't throw it and catch it too.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:48 PM
Damn guys!!!!

WTF!

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:49 PM
That was a BS foul on Aldrich; there was no contact.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:49 PM
Self giving some ass chewing...

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:50 PM
Way to stick up for your players Coach Self, Herm could learn alot from you..

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:50 PM
There you go Bill lets get this game officiated fair.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:50 PM
Morningstar can't throw it and catch it too.

True, but he could try not throwing it a shade too late when Aldrich's back is turned.


Watching this rebounding performance leaves me some hope we can snag Withey.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:51 PM
Now we are cold from the field and picking up trash fouls right and left...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:51 PM
Why is Dan Akroyd talking with Bill and the refs just then?

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:51 PM
Morris brothers with some lazy transition defense.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:52 PM
Why is Dan Akroyd talking with Bill and the refs just then?

ROFL

Ghostbusters?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:52 PM
You have got to be kidding me!!!! A freaking bunny by Morningstar!

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:52 PM
This game is getting sloppy and trashy now...

Lzen
12-23-2008, 10:53 PM
Morningstar, WTF?

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:54 PM
Was that one of the Morris brothers? Oh, no, it was Morningstar.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:55 PM
Ball game.... Another phantom foul call...

Lzen
12-23-2008, 10:55 PM
Reid and Morningstar are making some stupid mistakes. And they are supposed to be playing because of their experience?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:55 PM
19-3 run by AZ

Ceej
12-23-2008, 10:55 PM
The Tyrel Reed/Brady Morningstar show!


WEEEE!!!

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:56 PM
The Tyrel Reed/Brady Morningstar show!


WEEEE!!!

I am tired of Reed and Morningstar... I cant believe Releford and Thomas are not better than those guys...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:56 PM
Where the fuck was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting fucking ridiculous.

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 10:56 PM
What an awful half.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:57 PM
Where the **** was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting ****ing ridiculous.

Never touched him....

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 10:58 PM
Someone needs to tell these refs that just making a player adjust his body is not a foul!

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:58 PM
How was that not a foul on Hill for over the back on Aldrich?

Lzen
12-23-2008, 10:58 PM
Where the fuck was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting fucking ridiculous.

Yeah, the refs are calling stuff a little tight, but that would not have even been an issue had Reed not thrown it away.

Are these PAC 10 refs?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:58 PM
Should of been a foul on Hill there again...

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 10:59 PM
This isnt going well...

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 10:59 PM
Where the **** was the foul on Taylor there? This is getting ****ing ridiculous.

Stop blaming the refs for the team's poor play.

Agent V
12-23-2008, 10:59 PM
Bullshit foul.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Well, after this awful performance at least we can hope Sherron and Cole are back next year.

Nice transition defense, again.

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:00 PM
Bullshit foul.

Looked like a pretty obvious foul to me.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:02 PM
Stop blaming the refs for the team's poor play.

Not blaming the refs....... I just can't stand to see fouls called on no contact plays. And just FYI AZ is already in the bonus with still 11 to go.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:05 PM
AZ getting every bounce right now.......


let me dribble this ball off my nuts, bobble it around on my chest and toss it up and have it go in.

Agent V
12-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Not blaming the refs....... I just can't stand to see fouls called on no contact plays. And just FYI AZ is already in the bonus with still 11 to go.

That's what I was talking about. I didn't get the Aldrich foul on the alley-oop.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 11:05 PM
I admit it, we're getting our asses handed to us hardcore.

But, Nic Wise is flat out garbage.

Guru
12-23-2008, 11:05 PM
Just turned the game on. 29-6 run? Did I hear that right? DAMN!

Silock
12-23-2008, 11:05 PM
This is embarrassing. 29-6 run. Unbelievable.

Silock
12-23-2008, 11:06 PM
Not blaming the refs....... I just can't stand to see fouls called on no contact plays. And just FYI AZ is already in the bonus with still 11 to go.

Yeah, that wasn't a foul at all. Still, we're playing like shit.

Agent V
12-23-2008, 11:07 PM
Yeah, that wasn't a foul at all. Still, we're playing like shit.

You're absolutely right. No excuse for the play.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:07 PM
:shake: That just doesnt seem right...

This is embarrassing. 29-6 run. Unbelievable.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:09 PM
That cheerleader just fell on her ass.

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:09 PM
Yeah, that wasn't a foul at all. Still, we're playing like shit.

Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:10 PM
That was a cheap BS foul. WTF is this? The NBA?

Silock
12-23-2008, 11:11 PM
Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.

Meh, I didn't see any contact at all on the replays.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:12 PM
Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

Ari Chi3fs
12-23-2008, 11:12 PM
My prediction may be a bit off. I'm not fucking Nostradamus, Okay?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:12 PM
UGH, we need a solid run here... We have 8 min left.. Even though we have played like ass, we are only down 10....

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:12 PM
Aldrich hacked him as he was dunking it. Obvious foul.


Aldrich on Buddinger was a good call; one of few.

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:12 PM
Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

The first half?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:13 PM
Holy shit....... when was the last AZ possession with out a foul called?

Well still counting...

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:13 PM
Can anybody rebound on this team?

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:14 PM
Meh, I didn't see any contact at all on the replays.
He jumped right into him and hacked his shoulder.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:14 PM
Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:15 PM
KU team fouls- 12

AZ team fouls- 4


:rolleyes:

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:15 PM
Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

They let them play in the first half = whistle contest in the second...

chiefbowe82
12-23-2008, 11:16 PM
this team needs work on playing defense with their feet, and screening out

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:16 PM
Jesus. Are the refs going for "Most fouls called in a game"? Let them play a little bit.

It's a poorly reffed game. Unfortunately, that isn't the reason KU is losing.

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:16 PM
KU team fouls- 12

AZ team fouls- 4


:rolleyes:

Sometimes that stat can be deceiving. If one team is attacking the basket while the other is shooting outside a lot, that can happen easily. Of course, that is not the case tonight.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:16 PM
KU being out boarded by 10 thus far.

chiefbowe82
12-23-2008, 11:17 PM
morningstar can't hang with budinger

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:17 PM
We are just getting taking to the woodshed right now...

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
On that last AZ possession, Buddinger jumped into Aldrich but they didn't call a foul. That rebound was Cole's.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
It's a poorly reffed game. Unfortunately, that isn't the reason KU is losing.

Not saying it is, but it seems like there is a whistle nearly every time down the court.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
Guess what?

Another foul...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
Wow that was grade school like........ and KU can't cash it in.

chiefbowe82
12-23-2008, 11:18 PM
if we weren't letting them score every frickin time down the court off second chance opportunities we'd be making a run, ok do we have to foul every single time down the court, the hawks defense is as depressing as the chiefs

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:19 PM
Guess what, 9 of the last 10 possessions down for AZ = foul on KU..

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:20 PM
Another foul on KU

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:20 PM
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Just ask Bob Davis.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:20 PM
I was getting worried for a second. There wasn't a foul for 15 seconds.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

:rolleyes:

Oh Great, here we go again...

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
We deserve all the fouls we're getting.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
I'll take Jeff Withey, please.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:21 PM
5 min to go, down 12....

Fouls are killing us...

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:22 PM
Hey guess what?

Foul KU

chiefbowe82
12-23-2008, 11:22 PM
play defense with your FEET!!!!!!!

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:22 PM
:rolleyes:

Oh Great, here we go again...Heh... I'm just sayin'... ;)

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 11:22 PM
This young team makes lots of mistakes.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:23 PM
Shit if I was playing for AZ I would just lower my head and run into KU every time down...... whistle will be blown on KU.

Guru
12-23-2008, 11:23 PM
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Just ask Bob Davis. Heh, like MUrons are any different. :D

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:23 PM
Goddamn refs always seem to hate KU.

Funny how it works.

Go Illini!

The refs aren't the sole reason for KU being down, but they are playing their part. Every time down court, Ku is called for a foul. You can't tell me that does not affect the way a team plays. Oh well. This tem is young and will learn from this experience. Great teams learn to play through bad officiating.

Just as I say that, the call another foul on KU's defense. Looked to me like Buddinger just traveled.

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:24 PM
This young team makes lots of mistakes.Understandable.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:24 PM
KU with 15 fouls - UA with 6

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:25 PM
Understandable.

Dude, BTW, your above the weak smack you are trying....

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:25 PM
Go Illini!

The refs aren't the sole reason for KU being down, but they are playing their part. Every time down court, Ku is called for a foul. You can't tell me that does not affect the way a team plays. Oh well. This tem is young and will learn from this experience. Great teams learn to play through bad officiating.

Just as I say that, the call another foul on KU's defense. Looked to me like Buddinger just traveled.

You are letting your bias blind you. It only looked like a travel because there was a blocking foul before he did.

chiefbowe82
12-23-2008, 11:25 PM
this young team is not the future-maybe 2-3 of them can have an impact, but recruiting looks brighter down the road after this piss poor class

Ceej
12-23-2008, 11:25 PM
I blame this loss solely on Mr. Plow. He said he wasn't going to make it.


Go to bed old man!

Skip Towne
12-23-2008, 11:25 PM
KU with 15 fouls - UA with 6

The refs did it.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:26 PM
I'm thinking I might. I got a "burst" of energy and stayed up through the half.....that's when all hell broke loose.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:27 PM
this young team is not the future-maybe 2-3 of them can have an impact, but recruiting looks brighter down the road after this piss poor class

Taylor has a future along with the Morris Twins...

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:27 PM
Dude, BTW, your above the weak smack you are trying....I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:27 PM
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:27 PM
I'm thinking I might. I got a "burst" of energy and stayed up through the half.....that's when all hell broke loose.
Its your fault for causing the fouls... /Herm (checking the tape)

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:28 PM
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?

I dont know, but I marked this off as a L at the beginning of the year... I didnt expect to lose to UMASS though...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:28 PM
As good of a first half the Morris twins had; the second half is just as bad.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:28 PM
That guy Hill is a fouling mother fucker and they don't call shit on him.

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:28 PM
Its your fault for causing the fouls... /Herm (checking the tape)

I'll have to review the tape to see what happened /herm

chiefbowe82
12-23-2008, 11:28 PM
Taylor has a future along with the Morris Twins...

hint the maybe 2-3 have a future

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:29 PM
ROFL

Aldrich had to be thrown to the floor from behind before the whistle was blown!

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:29 PM
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?I feel the same way about Illinios.

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:29 PM
You are letting your bias blind you. It only looked like a travel because there was a blocking foul before he did.

Should have been a non foul. I just went back and looked at it about 3 times. I forgot one thing. PAC 10 refs seem to call stuff a lot tighter.

Guru
12-23-2008, 11:30 PM
This is the worst half of basketball I can remember since the time we played Arizona at home and had a 20 point lead and ended up losing by 20. What is it with this damn Arizona team?Makes me miss UCLA in 1997 at Allen. what a beautiful comeback that was.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:30 PM
I feel the same way about Illinios.

Lol, but we do beat Arizona quite a bit I think the series sits at 7-3 advantage KU. About to go to 7-4.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:30 PM
hint the maybe 2-3 have a future

:D

the rest are meh....

I am so ready for this season to pass and get on with the next guys coming in...

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:31 PM
I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

Indeed. We lost tonight because Arizona was better.

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:31 PM
Makes me miss UCLA in 1997 at Allen. what a beautiful comeback that was.

I seem to remember a comeback that happened just this last April. That was my favorite.

Lzen
12-23-2008, 11:32 PM
ROFL

Aldrich had to be thrown to the floor from behind before the whistle was blown!

No shit. Is it my imagination or should that have been called a flagrant?

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:32 PM
That game fucking sucked.

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:32 PM
Should have been a non foul. I just went back and looked at it about 3 times. I forgot one thing. PAC 10 refs seem to call stuff a lot tighter.

As did I. An easy foul call at any level of basketball.

Ceej
12-23-2008, 11:33 PM
I guess what's most frustrating about this loss is limiting Budinger and still losing by 17.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:33 PM
Indeed. We lost tonight because Arizona was better.


Wouldn't have been the ass kicking it was without the foul disparity.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:33 PM
I'm not trying any "smack" at all.

My team got their ass kicked tonight. I know better.

I'm just saying, blaming it on the refs is weak.

I know KCMizz....

It was just frustration on our parts, we had 11 of 13 possessions down were fouls, a couple were WTF fouls... There was one on Taylor where he was a clear 2 foot from the guy, no contact and the whistle blew...

So yes it is weak, but it is annoying regardless if it is happening to you or your opponent...

They let them play in the first half...

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:34 PM
I guess what's most frustrating about this loss is limiting Budinger and still losing by 17.

I think the worst part is the 26 point swing in the second half. For fucks sake KU had a nine point lead in the second half.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:35 PM
I think the worst part is the 26 point swing in the second half. For ****s sake KU had a nine point lead in the second half.

Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

ArrowheadHawk
12-23-2008, 11:35 PM
A Bill Self team gave up 49 points in one half. What the hell happened?

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:36 PM
Wouldn't have been the ass kicking it was without the foul disparity.

There was actually a reason for the foul disparity. Arizona played with a lot more energy tonight.

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:36 PM
Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

QFT

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:39 PM
Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

But but but....his dad played for KU.

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:39 PM
I know KCMizz....

It was just frustration on our parts, we had 11 of 13 possessions down were fouls, a couple were WTF fouls... There was one on Taylor where he was a clear 2 foot from the guy, no contact and the whistle blew...

So yes it is weak, but it is annoying regardless if it is happening to you or your opponent...

They let them play in the first half...Understood.

Still, you guys know even if you did happen to suck this season... (What's "suck" for you, 3rd or 4th in the Big XII?)

It's a bit amusing when you're a fan of a rival team who's just hoping to become a bit of a threat again.

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:39 PM
Yep that is going to happen, we just dont have the talent... Reed and Morningstar cannot, CANNOT be counted on to play meaningful minutes night in and out...

That should be pretty obvious to anybody by now.

Guru
12-23-2008, 11:40 PM
I seem to remember a comeback that happened just this last April. That was my favorite.different kind of comeback though. The championship comeback was great but the UCLA comeback was friggin legendary. heh

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:40 PM
A Bill Self team gave up 49 points in one half. What the hell happened?

It will be reviewed and broken down.. Self will not stand for this kind of effort. But changes need to be made to the lineup, for the first time in the tenure of Coach Self, he really hasnt changed the lineup as much as before.. There seems to be less experimenting as usual....

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:40 PM
There was actually a reason for the foul disparity. Arizona played with a lot more energy tonight.

Really you couldn't see the BS fouls called on Taylor on the breakaway layup; or the BS foul called on Collins right after that on the drive to the basket?

Don't give me the shit about playing with energy being the reason you get the calls. It is lazy officiating and presuming a foul and not SEEING a foul. Too many refs blow the friggin whistle before a play even happens anticipating contact; perfect example was the Taylor foul.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:41 PM
But but but....his dad played for KU.

Fine, but he is situational role player, not an starter or meaningful minutes player...

Believe me, I love the kid and his hustle, but his place is coming off the bench for 5-8 min a game....

Mr. Plow
12-23-2008, 11:43 PM
Fine, but he is situational role player, not an starter or meaningful minutes player...

Believe me, I love the kid and his hustle, but his place is coming off the bench for 5-8 min a game....

Exactly. That's all I've been saying. Kid isn't "starting for KU" quality.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:43 PM
Understood.

Still, you guys know even if you did happen to suck this season... (What's "suck" for you, 3rd or 4th in the Big XII?)

It's a bit amusing when you're a fan of a rival team who's just hoping to become a bit of a threat again.

True... I guess we were just spoiled by the last 3 years.... Again this is a muligan year for KU... I can see them better by the end of the Big 12 conference play...

Maybe a 4-6 seed and a second round loss? Maybe if they progress like Selfs teams do, it could be a sweet 16 at best...

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:44 PM
It will be reviewed and broken down.. Self will not stand for this kind of effort. But changes need to be made to the lineup, for the first time in the tenure of Coach Self, he really hasnt changed the lineup as much as before.. There seems to be less experimenting as usual....

Not alot of experimenting he can do; with Little hurt and freshmen all over the place he has not choice to coach with a baptism by fire attitude. What hurts is there is no real leadership on the team. Collins isn't it; yet. And Aldrich is no where experienced enough for it.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:44 PM
Exactly. That's all I've been saying. Kid isn't "starting for KU" quality.

I am just stumped that Q Thomas or Releford cant seem to log meaninful minutes over Reed and Morningstar?

KcMizzou
12-23-2008, 11:44 PM
True... I guess we were just spoiled by the last 3 years.... Again this is a muligan year for KU... I can see them better by the end of the Big 12 conference play...

Maybe a 4-6 seed and a second round loss? Maybe if they progress like Selfs teams do, it could be a sweet 16 at best...I hate you.

One of these days...

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:45 PM
Not alot of experimenting he can do; with Little hurt and freshmen all over the place he has not choice to coach with a baptism by fire attitude. What hurts is there is no real leadership on the team. Collins isn't it; yet. And Aldrich is no where experienced enough for it.

True... This Little injury is hurting us more than we actually realize... I guess what I mean by experimenting is.. Mixing the line ups with Thomas, Releford and Appleton...

But Self is about Defense and if you fail at D, you dont play..

Chiefs_Mike_Topeka
12-23-2008, 11:45 PM
I am just stumped that Q Thomas or Releford cant seem to log meaninful minutes over Reed and Morningstar?

I would suspect it is a practice issue and Bill rewarding good practice habits over talent. He did the same thing his first year and a half when he played Moody relentlessly.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 11:46 PM
I hate you.

One of these days...

I sorry, didnt mean to rub it in....

KC_Connection
12-23-2008, 11:46 PM
Really you couldn't see the BS fouls called on Taylor on the breakaway layup; or the BS foul called on Collins right after that on the drive to the basket?

So 2 fouls out of how many?



Don't give me the shit about playing with energy being the reason you get the calls. It is lazy officiating and presuming a foul and not SEEING a foul. Too many refs blow the friggin whistle before a play even happens anticipating contact; perfect example was the Taylor foul.
You are letting your bias blind you here. As much as I'd like to blame the refs, they weren't the reason KU had so many. Arizona played very well and was able to draw them.