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Tribal Warfare
12-23-2008, 06:43 PM
Edwards: Chiefs will compete in ‘09 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-chiefs-edwards&prov=ap&type=lgns)

By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer 1 hour, 15 minutes ago


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)—Whether he’s their head coach or not, Herm Edwards sees a contender taking shape in Kansas City in the very near future.

“I see them competing next year,” the embattled coach of the 2-13 Chiefs said in what may be his last regular-season Tuesday news conference.

“I think this is going to be a good football team next year. I really do. That’s just my opinion. I think the players feel that way, too.”

The massive rebuilding program Edwards launched this year is guaranteed to result in the worst season in club history whether the Chiefs win or lose their finale Sunday at Cincinnati.

But Edwards said the rounding up of players is just about finished.

“I’d say 85 percent of it is done now,” Edwards said. “It’s just the matter of another draft and free agency. Then you’re going to have your team built for the most part. Then it’s a matter from there of just continuing to grow on that.

“But the hard part’s done,” he added. “All the foundation, all the work has been laid for what’s going to transpire for years to come now if we keep heading down this path. And that’s the path this organization will head in through the draft, then be very selective in free agency.”

With owner Clark Hunt interviewing candidates to replace Carl Peterson as general manager, Edwards also knows he may not be back next year to complete his project.

Nevertheless, he’s still been arriving at the stadium before daybreak, going through his morning workout and putting in a full day’s work with what appears to be undiminished zest. He laughed at reports he was suffering from burnout and might want to get away from coaching for a while.

“I don’t know where people get that,” Edwards said. “I’ve got a lot of energy. And I think what gives me energy most of the time is the young guys we have, their ability to recover after a bunch of hard losses. We’ve been in a bunch of football games we haven’t won this year, and I think that will pay dividends for this football team next year. I just think with youth, every time they show up after a hard loss, you go through the film with them, they’re optimistic and they’re excited about the next week’s opponent, it gives us all energy.

“I think our coaches have witnessed that through all this that we’ve gone through as a football team, and it’s a credit to the players, it really is, how they’ve bounced back every week after some tough losses.”

Without doubt, there are still parts to be added. A couple of pass-rushing linemen are crucial. Unless they get four sacks against the Bengals, the Chiefs will go into the record book as the weakest pass-rushing team in NFL history. Counting a nine-game losing streak that the aging 2007 team ended the season with, the Chiefs are 2-22 in their last 24.

But Edwards and his staff plan to go about their routine in the weeks following the Bengals game just as they’ve always done.

“I’m going to be energetic,” he said. “We’ll come in Monday and Tuesday and evaluate the players. Coaches will get some time off, about a week or so, then they’ll come back. I’ll be in the office looking at the whole season, looking at tapes, starting to plan, start talking about the Senior Bowl, prospects coming up in the draft, free agency. Those are the things you go over once the season is over. That’s how we’re going to handle it.”

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 06:56 PM
ROFL

Edwards is lobbying for his job and it is pretty sad....

Just think Herm, this team would of won 6+ more games this year if YOU werent the HC...

I cant wait until he is removed, before he causes anymore damage...

BigChiefFan
12-23-2008, 06:58 PM
I'm not sure I want Herm looking over anything Chief related. He should be excused from his job at the conclusion of Sunday's game. Clark needs to step up and do the right thing.

Mecca
12-23-2008, 07:02 PM
If anything the absolute awfulness of most of his assistant coaches is reason enough to fire him.

Deberg_1990
12-23-2008, 07:06 PM
I pray Clark gets a real GM in here who promptly fires this dumba** two seconds later.

boogblaster
12-23-2008, 07:14 PM
Herm is coaching his farewell HCing this sunday .. He'll never HC again in the NFL ...

Hoover
12-23-2008, 07:22 PM
While I find his lobbying sad and pathetic, I think he's right and see's a strong young team emerging. His problem is he thought the Chiefs would honor his contract since the team was committed to rebuilding. If Herm would have shown progress in the win/loss column, he and Carl would have been given a chance to come back for their final year.

Mecca
12-23-2008, 07:24 PM
Herm is coaching his farewell HCing this sunday .. He'll never HC again in the NFL ...

I just realized something.....3 black head coaches are likely to be fired after this year, cue bitching, I'm sure Tony Dungy will be upset about it he always is.

BCD
12-23-2008, 07:26 PM
I just realized something.....3 black head coaches are likely to be fired after this year, cue bitching, I'm sure Tony Dungy will be upset about it he always is.Herm, Crennel, and ?

PGM
12-23-2008, 07:26 PM
I just realized something.....3 black head coaches are likely to be fired after this year, cue bitching, I'm sure Tony Dungy will be upset about it he always is.

Well they have pretty much earned thier firing, but I'm sure there will be a bunch of out rage over it.

Mecca
12-23-2008, 07:26 PM
Herm, Crennel, and ?

Guy the Chiefs are playing this weekend.

PGM
12-23-2008, 07:26 PM
Herm, Crennel, and ?

Marvin Lewis?

reiko57
12-23-2008, 07:28 PM
Herm is coaching his farewell HCing this sunday .. He'll never HC again in the NFL ...

im not so sure about that

in fact, im not so sure he wont be around here next year

ChiefButthurt
12-23-2008, 07:35 PM
Edwards: Chiefs will compete in ‘09 (http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news?slug=ap-chiefs-edwards&prov=ap&type=lgns)

By DOUG TUCKER, AP Sports Writer 1 hour, 15 minutes ago


KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP)—Whether he’s their head coach or not, Herm Edwards sees a contender taking shape in Kansas City in the very near future.

“I see them competing next year,” the embattled coach of the 2-13 Chiefs said in what may be his last regular-season Tuesday news conference.

“I think this is going to be a good football team next year. I really do. That’s just my opinion. I think the players feel that way, too.”

The massive rebuilding program Edwards launched this year is guaranteed to result in the worst season in club history whether the Chiefs win or lose their finale Sunday at Cincinnati.

But Edwards said the rounding up of players is just about finished.

“I’d say 85 percent of it is done now,” Edwards said. “It’s just the matter of another draft and free agency. Then you’re going to have your team built for the most part. Then it’s a matter from there of just continuing to grow on that.

“But the hard part’s done,” he added. “All the foundation, all the work has been laid for what’s going to transpire for years to come now if we keep heading down this path. And that’s the path this organization will head in through the draft, then be very selective in free agency.”

With owner Clark Hunt interviewing candidates to replace Carl Peterson as general manager, Edwards also knows he may not be back next year to complete his project.

Nevertheless, he’s still been arriving at the stadium before daybreak, going through his morning workout and putting in a full day’s work with what appears to be undiminished zest. He laughed at reports he was suffering from burnout and might want to get away from coaching for a while.

“I don’t know where people get that,” Edwards said. “I’ve got a lot of energy. And I think what gives me energy most of the time is the young guys we have, their ability to recover after a bunch of hard losses. We’ve been in a bunch of football games we haven’t won this year, and I think that will pay dividends for this football team next year. I just think with youth, every time they show up after a hard loss, you go through the film with them, they’re optimistic and they’re excited about the next week’s opponent, it gives us all energy.

“I think our coaches have witnessed that through all this that we’ve gone through as a football team, and it’s a credit to the players, it really is, how they’ve bounced back every week after some tough losses.”

Without doubt, there are still parts to be added. A couple of pass-rushing linemen are crucial. Unless they get four sacks against the Bengals, the Chiefs will go into the record book as the weakest pass-rushing team in NFL history. Counting a nine-game losing streak that the aging 2007 team ended the season with, the Chiefs are 2-22 in their last 24.

But Edwards and his staff plan to go about their routine in the weeks following the Bengals game just as they’ve always done.

“I’m going to be energetic,” he said. “We’ll come in Monday and Tuesday and evaluate the players. Coaches will get some time off, about a week or so, then they’ll come back. I’ll be in the office looking at the whole season, looking at tapes, starting to plan, start talking about the Senior Bowl, prospects coming up in the draft, free agency. Those are the things you go over once the season is over. That’s how we’re going to handle it.”

85 percent complete?? So that equals 2 wins? What a fucking idiot. :cuss: If he has a job in KC next year I'll :Lin:

Bob Dole
12-23-2008, 07:36 PM
I'm not sure I want Herm looking over anything Chief related. He should be excused from his job at the conclusion of Sunday's game. Clark needs to step up and do the right thing.

Bob Dole sitll thinks it would be entertaining for Clark to fire him mid-game and let one of the assistants take over.

PastorMikH
12-23-2008, 07:36 PM
In all honesty on the youth movement, the O has started showing glimpses of being good. Sadly, with just a little help from the D, the Chiefs could have finished 8-8 or 9-7.

Had Gunther followed Solari out the door, we could be on the verge of the playoffs right now.

Mecca
12-23-2008, 07:38 PM
When the defense plays ok the offense is worse like in the San Diego game...it's just a bad team all around.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 07:47 PM
85 percent complete?? So that equals 2 wins? What a ****ing idiot. :cuss: If he has a job in KC next year I'll :Lin:

WTF is it Herm? 85% done? With 95% of the players returning?

I am not a math major, but something isnt adding up right...

Douche Baggins
12-23-2008, 07:48 PM
What's amazing is that Herm doesn't realize all the holes on this team.

There are so many positions that need to be filled, and forget about depth...we aren't going to the playoffs next year barring a Matt Ryan miracle.

bowener
12-23-2008, 07:52 PM
If anything the absolute awfulness of most of his assistant coaches is reason enough to fire him.

This is an absolute mind fuck to me. How do we have the guys we have? Most teams purge themselves of shit like this every year. I mean for fucks sake we kept Solari as OC for 2 seasons! WTF?! Anywhere else on earth would have canned his ass after 4 weeks.... maybe even preseason.

Mecca
12-23-2008, 07:53 PM
Think about how long Gunther Cunningham has been here.

bowener
12-23-2008, 07:54 PM
Bob Dole sitll thinks it would be entertaining for Clark to fire him mid-game and let one of the assistants take over.

Can it be Chan? At least he has worn the headset with in the last 2 years.

bowener
12-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Think about how long Gunther Cunningham has been here.

Are you trying to ruin my merry fucking christmas? cock.

Mecca
12-23-2008, 07:55 PM
Can it be Chan? At least he has worn the headset with in the last 2 years.

All I know of him as a head coach is he sucked in college and at the NFL level Troy Aikman hated him.

Douche Baggins
12-23-2008, 08:02 PM
This is my whole problem with Herm, basically. I can look past the horrible game management, poor attitude and other bullshit. For me the deal breaker was really the talent level he's approved of on the field. He thinks we're going to be a good team with scabs like Pollard, McBride and god knows who else on the field. For all we know Pat Thomas is the starting MLB next year if he's here.

PGM
12-23-2008, 08:06 PM
This is my whole problem with Herm, basically. I can look past the horrible game management, poor attitude and other bullshit. For me the deal breaker was really the talent level he's approved of on the field. He thinks we're going to be a good team with scabs like Pollard, McBride and god knows who else on the field. For all we know Pat Thomas is the starting MLB next year if he's here.

I still can't believe they used 2nd round picks on Pollard and McBride. Well I can, but it is still ridiculous.

Crush
12-23-2008, 08:07 PM
I cannot wait until Black Monday when this no-talent assclown is kicked to the curb.

bowener
12-23-2008, 08:08 PM
All I know of him as a head coach is he sucked in college and at the NFL level Troy Aikman hated him.

Im not saying Chan will save us or do anything. I just want him to show he is better than Herm. Personally I think this whole staff should band together and when fired go get hired at some mid level college. Herm seems like he is best cut out for the younger kids as a motivator only, and chan can run the spread to his hearts desire. Gun can just scare the kids into doing things. As long as they arent near arrowhead, I dont give a fuck.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 08:09 PM
I cannot wait until Black Monday when this no-talent assclown is kicked to the curb.

:clap:

bowener
12-23-2008, 08:09 PM
I still can't believe they used 2nd round picks on Pollard and McBride. Well I can, but it is still ridiculous.

Maybe with a new coaching staff Pollard could make a serviceable OLB as a backup or something.

McBride... IDK, make him gain some muscle and go back to being a pass rushing DT.

PGM
12-23-2008, 08:11 PM
Maybe with a new coaching staff Pollard could make a serviceable OLB as a backup or something.

McBride... IDK, make him gain some muscle and go back to being a pass rushing DT.

I guess they could be playing out of place, so there could be hope with a new regime.

Agent V
12-23-2008, 08:14 PM
Christ, it's starting. We will compete in 08!

...We will compete in 09!


...We will compete in 2010!


...We are rebuilding! Wait for 2014!

Of course, that's an absolute worst-Herm scenario.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 08:15 PM
Christ, it's starting. We will compete in 08!

...We will compete in 09!


...We will compete in 2010!


...We are rebuilding! Wait for 2014!

Of course, that's an absolute worst-Herm scenario.

I cant wait until Monday... I want to see if Herm is really going to be here or not...

Crush
12-23-2008, 08:29 PM
I cant wait until Monday... I want to see if Herm is really going to be here or not...


I think the best part of that day will be the realization of three things. The first one is the fact that Herm is gone. The second one is the fact that Curl is gone. The third one is the fact that Gunther is gone. It will be a ****ing Christmas miracle. :thumb:

DT58HOF
12-23-2008, 09:02 PM
Herm, Crennel, and ?
Singletary and maybe Lovie also

Darth CarlSatan
12-23-2008, 09:08 PM
Marvin Lewis?

When did HE get black?

Darth CarlSatan
12-23-2008, 09:10 PM
What's amazing is that Herm doesn't realize all the holes on this team.

There are so many positions that need to be filled, and forget about depth...we aren't going to the playoffs next year barring a Matt Ryan miracle.

What about the argument that we have capable players at "positions that don't suit their talent"?

Darth CarlSatan
12-23-2008, 09:13 PM
Maybe with a new coaching staff Pollard could make a serviceable OLB as a backup or something.

McBride... IDK, make him gain some muscle and go back to being a pass rushing DT.

You're welcome; I took two solid days of ass-ripping for suggesting that very thing, so you don't have to.

Douche Baggins
12-23-2008, 09:14 PM
What about the argument that we have capable players at "positions that don't suit their talent"?

Just another argument AGAINST Herm.

Darth CarlSatan
12-23-2008, 09:16 PM
Just another argument AGAINST Herm AND Gunther.

FYP.:D

bowener
12-23-2008, 09:26 PM
You're welcome; I took two solid days of ass-ripping for suggesting that very thing, so you don't have to.

Thank you?

Yeah, that idea for Pollard has been floating around for at least 1 full season. The kid has some talent, just not enough it appears to start as a SS, at least with this coaching staff. I dont see why we can't at least find a suitable place for him to try and play if Morgan ever steps up and takes his spot. I would like to get some value out of the 2nd we spend on him.

TEX
12-23-2008, 09:29 PM
85 percent complete?? So that equals 2 wins? What a ****ing idiot. :cuss: If he has a job in KC next year I'll :Lin:


I siad that last year and did just that.

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:32 PM
I siad that last year and did just that.

This is year 3 for me... I think I have surpassed dry heaves and on to throwing up internal organs...

TEX
12-23-2008, 09:34 PM
What's amazing is that Herm doesn't realize all the holes on this team.

There are so many positions that need to be filled, and forget about depth...we aren't going to the playoffs next year barring a Matt Ryan miracle.

Yep. That's exactly why he must go. He actually thought the OL could get it done going into last season. I laughed when he said we're 85% there. :shake:

TEX
12-23-2008, 09:38 PM
This is year 3 for me... I think I have surpassed dry heaves and on to throwing up internal organs...

I'm there with you. This year I watched 1 game. I haven't been to ARROWHEAD since he was named HC and I used to go twice a year. The second I heard he was HC I knew we would be right where we are today. I still can't believe that we actually gave up a draft pick to get him. :shake:

I am now living for Monday and hoping he finds out he's fired when his key to his office doesn't work and all his stuff waiting for him outside by the curb.

blueballs
12-23-2008, 09:44 PM
What's with all the Herm articles

Reerun_KC
12-23-2008, 09:47 PM
What's with all the Herm articles

Ass saving propaganda by Herm and probably agent. They need as much positive spin out there to try and salvage his job... If he can get alot of his asst coaches to get "other" jobs, then he can work on keeping his job by saying he will replace his asst coaches to help improve the team....

Strategery covering of ass...

Darth CarlSatan
12-23-2008, 09:47 PM
This is year 3 for me... I think I have surpassed dry heaves and on to throwing up internal organs...

http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn182/lightbringerrr/b1cbea68.gif

Agent V
12-23-2008, 09:48 PM
What's with all the Herm articles

One last shit storm of unmitigated tripe before he's gone?

Darth CarlSatan
12-23-2008, 09:55 PM
One last shit storm of unmitigated tripe before he's gone?

We can only hope...

whoman69
12-23-2008, 09:58 PM
I think its right, but given two things:

1. the team makes an honest effort to fill their holes

2. he's not there.

Not in any particular order.

CHIEF4EVER
12-24-2008, 01:37 AM
2-22. That is so inept a job of coaching that it defies description. He makes Frank Gansz look like Vince Lombardi. Bye Herm.

BCD
12-24-2008, 01:42 AM
Guy the Chiefs are playing this weekend.No. Ownership there likes him. He's safe.

BCD
12-24-2008, 01:45 AM
Singletary and maybe Lovie alsoSingletary wouldn't really be a firing. He's interim. Lovie isn't going anywhere.

CHIEF4EVER
12-24-2008, 04:03 AM
Ass saving propaganda by Herm and probably agent. They need as much positive spin out there to try and salvage his job... If he can get alot of his asst coaches to get "other" jobs, then he can work on keeping his job by saying he will replace his asst coaches to help improve the team....

Strategery covering of ass...

Frank Gansz
Overall: 8 - 22

Herm Edwards
Overall: 2-22

No amount of ass covering or spin can disguise those FACTS. If Herm has a job after the final whistle this Sunday I will be shocked.

Guru
12-24-2008, 04:23 AM
I cant wait until Monday... I want to see if Herm is really going to be here or not...He won't be gone. We won't have a new GM on Monday. Nothing will happen for at least 2-3 weeks.

crossbow
12-24-2008, 06:03 AM
The Oakland home opener did it for me. I have never seen a pro sports team look so dissorganized and lost on the field befor. That was brutal to watch. I didn't expect the rookies to win but they needed to at least look like they actualy did something in training camp to prepare for the season. That game was terrible.

Ebolapox
12-24-2008, 06:45 AM
compete for what, the first pick in the draft?

:spock:

the Talking Can
12-24-2008, 06:45 AM
how the hell is "the hard part done" when we don't have a fucking QB yet?

and when is he going to fire gunther?

Color Red
12-24-2008, 07:55 AM
There's a difference between having a team with competitive talent, and having a competitive team. Just ask Norv Turner or Bill Parcells. What happened in Miami this year should make any fan short of patience with their headcoach. Who was that guy who coached the Dolphins last year? Kirk Cameron?

BigChiefFan
12-24-2008, 08:00 AM
There's a difference between having a team with competitive talent, and having a competitive team. Just ask Norv Turner or Bill Parcells. What happened in Miami this year should make any fan short of patience with their headcoach. Who was that guy who coached the Dolphins last year? Kirk Cameron?
CAM CAMERON is his name. He's a Hell of an offensive coordinator.

TEX
12-24-2008, 08:09 AM
When the defense plays ok the offense is worse like in the San Diego game...it's just a bad team all around.

Yep. A product of BAD coaching. If the coaching were better, we could have won at least 4 - 5 more games. The Chiefs, under Herm, have developed a losing culture. Time to move on.

TEX
12-24-2008, 08:11 AM
CAM CAMERON is his name. He's a Hell of an offensive coordinator.

Yep. For the first time in forever, the Ravens have a good offense, even with a rookie QB...

Reerun_KC
12-24-2008, 08:51 AM
He won't be gone. We won't have a new GM on Monday. Nothing will happen for at least 2-3 weeks.

You cant take away my Christmas, You cant! Santa Said so!

BigChiefFan
12-24-2008, 09:05 AM
Yep. For the first time in forever, the Ravens have a good offense, even with a rookie QB... He kind of got a raw deal in Miami, but he's definitely a great offensive coordinator, and I think he'll get a shot at being head coach again in the near future.