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DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 06:29 PM
He stated that he'll decide in the next 3-4 days whether he'll return to USC or enter the NFL Draft.

When asked whether a possible USC National Championship awaits him in 2009: "USC is in that position every year".

I think he'll enter the draft.

BigMeatballDave
01-04-2009, 06:31 PM
Lets hope. Him or Stafford, please!

the Talking Can
01-04-2009, 06:32 PM
boy that would help us out....maybe something will finally break our way

Bowser
01-04-2009, 06:34 PM
boy that would help us out....maybe something will finally break our way

Watch the jinx, goddammit!

cdcox
01-04-2009, 06:38 PM
Please, please, please.

KChiefs1
01-04-2009, 06:39 PM
what's the decision????????????????????

Sure-Oz
01-04-2009, 06:43 PM
What pick would he go?

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 06:47 PM
What pick would he go?

1 or 3

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01-04-2009, 06:50 PM
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Direckshun
01-04-2009, 06:51 PM
He stated that he'll decide in the next 3-4 days whether he'll return to USC or enter the NFL Draft.

When asked whether a possible USC National Championship awaits him in 2009: "USC is in that position every year".

I think he'll enter the draft.

What tips you off either way?

smittysbar
01-04-2009, 06:52 PM
Would be nice.

Reerun_KC
01-04-2009, 06:55 PM
Direckshun?

Whom you thinking?

alanm
01-04-2009, 06:59 PM
He stated that he'll decide in the next 3-4 days whether he'll return to USC or enter the NFL Draft.

When asked whether a possible USC National Championship awaits him in 2009: "USC is in that position every year".

I think he'll enter the draft.Boosters checkbooks a little short of cash this spring? :D

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01-04-2009, 07:03 PM
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Boner time!

doomy3
01-04-2009, 07:11 PM
what are the sizes of all three of the QB Prospects, Sanchez, Stafford and Bradford?

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 07:12 PM
what are the sizes of all three of the QB Prospects, Sanchez, Stafford and Bradford?

Off the top of my head, Stafford and Sanchez are 6-3, and Bradford is 6-4.

Tribal Warfare
01-04-2009, 07:13 PM
what are the sizes of all three of the QB Prospects, Sanchez, Stafford and Bradford?

Stafford is 6'3" 237

Sanchez is 6'2" 225

Bradford- 6'4" 210

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 07:14 PM
Stafford: 6-3 228

Sanchez: 6-3 227

Bradford: 6-4 218

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 07:14 PM
Stafford is 6'3" 237

Sanchez is 6'2" 225

Bradford- 6'4" 210

Stafford: 6-3 228

Sanchez: 6-3 227

Bradford: 6-4 218

Guess we'll see at the combine.

Maybe.

Beerthirty
01-04-2009, 07:16 PM
Which can run to thier left the fastest? Sacintosh is still over there on the right.

cdcox
01-04-2009, 07:16 PM
Guess we'll see at the combine.

Maybe.

Actually we'll have to wait for Whitlock's locker room SWAG to get an accurate read.

EyePod
01-04-2009, 07:18 PM
Which can run to thier left the fastest? Sacintosh is still over there on the right.

Although he did end the season on a high note... maybe after another offseason of RT he'd be better (not that better is good enough)?

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 07:23 PM
He stated that he'll decide in the next 3-4 days whether he'll return to USC or enter the NFL Draft.

When asked whether a possible USC National Championship awaits him in 2009: "USC is in that position every year".

I think he'll enter the draft.

I love you man...:(:wayne::thumb:

dorseybowe
01-04-2009, 07:27 PM
How about a report, Dane?

googlegoogle
01-04-2009, 07:34 PM
He's a lot like Leinart which worries me.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 07:35 PM
He's a lot like Leinart which worries me.


:spock:

Tribal Warfare
01-04-2009, 07:36 PM
:spock:

he doesn't like him because he's Hispanic

L.A. Chieffan
01-04-2009, 07:37 PM
Im not real big on him either especially at #3, fuck that.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 07:37 PM
He reminds me of another LA college QB - Troy Aikman.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 07:38 PM
he doesn't like him because he's Hispanic

Ah.

Does he not like Bradford since he's Native American?

Pablo
01-04-2009, 07:39 PM
He's a lot like Leinart which worries me.Yeah.....

he does wear a USC uniform.

DaKCMan AP
01-04-2009, 07:42 PM
He reminds me of another LA college QB - Troy Aikman.

He's gay?

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 07:45 PM
He's gay?

if he wins us a super bowl, who gives a shit if he chuffs the cock?

Pablo
01-04-2009, 07:47 PM
if he wins us a super bowl, who gives a shit if he chuffs the cock?True.

If Richard Simmons could chuck the rock 40 yards on a rope I wouldn't give a shit if he was wearing a glamorous Jazzercise shirt with glittery sequins instead of a Chiefs uni.

ILChief
01-04-2009, 07:49 PM
He's a lot like Leinart which worries me.

I don't think Leinart has been given much of an opportunity. When he's played he hasn't been that bad. It seems like Wisenhunt just doesn't like him. I'd rather have Leinart than any Chiefs QB and I'd be fine with trading for him for a mid round pick.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 08:04 PM
He's a lot like Leinart which worries me.

Im not real big on him either especially at #3, fuck that.`

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L.A. Chieffan
01-04-2009, 08:07 PM
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HAHA you're so fucking funny.

Oh wait, no you're not.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 08:09 PM
HAHA you're so fucking funny.

Oh wait, no you're not.

eh, he actually is pretty goddamned funny. but, I agree with him about sanchez--he looks like a great pro prospect.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 08:19 PM
HAHA you're so fucking funny.

Oh wait, no you're not.

I'm The Man, motherfucker; get the HELL out my way.:hump::spank::whip:

kcchiefsus
01-04-2009, 08:23 PM
I thought Sanchez had a stronger arm than Leinart? I could be wrong though.

L.A. Chieffan
01-04-2009, 08:24 PM
I'm The Man, motherfucker; get the HELL out my way.:hump::spank::whip:

Dont try so hard, you might strain something

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 08:37 PM
What tips you off either way?

Well, I could be totally reading him wrong but he appeared to have already made his decision. His mannerisms were of a confident person, not someone who was up in the air.

Additionally, the way he delivered the "Well, USC is in the position for a National Championship every year" line sounded more like "They'll be there, whether I am or not".

And he said it'll be "fun" to make the decision. Again, I may be totally reading into his body language but I think he's entering the draft.

milkman
01-04-2009, 08:39 PM
Well, I could be totally reading him wrong but he appeared to have already made his decision. His mannerisms were of a confident person, not someone who was up in the air.

Additionally, the way he delivered the "Well, USC is in the position for a National Championship every year" line sounded more like "They'll be there, whether I am or not".

And he said it'll be "fun" to make the decision. Again, I may be totally reading into his body language but I think he's entering the draft.

Wow!

Sounds like Dane Athan has the inside scoop!

:D

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 08:40 PM
Well, I could be totally reading him wrong but he appeared to have already made his decision. His mannerisms were of a confident person, not someone who was up in the air.

Additionally, the way he delivered the "Well, USC is in the position for a National Championship every year" line sounded more like "They'll be there, whether I am or not".

And he said it'll be "fun" to make the decision. Again, I may be totally reading into his body language but I think he's entering the draft.

That's the first thing I thought when I read your original post.

If he hadn't already made his decision, he'd be using all of the time allowed to make that decision. (January 15th)

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 08:40 PM
Well, I could be totally reading him wrong but he appeared to have already made his decision. His mannerisms were of a confident person, not someone who was up in the air.

Additionally, the way he delivered the "Well, USC is in the position for a National Championship every year" line sounded more like "They'll be there, whether I am or not".

And he said it'll be "fun" to make the decision. Again, I may be totally reading into his body language but I think he's entering the draft.

30 to 40 million would be my reasoning. I'm not that much older than these guys and to have that much jack dropped on you is unreal.

dorseybowe
01-04-2009, 08:44 PM
I got that impression also in an interview after the Rose Bowl. He wouldn't answer the reporter's question regarding entering the draft, but he seemed like he had already made a decision. I'm paraphrasing, but he said something like "I want to enjoy right now, this win, not worry about the future."

Mecca
01-04-2009, 08:44 PM
I thought Sanchez had a stronger arm than Leinart? I could be wrong though.

It is significantly stronger, he and Leinart are really nothing alike.

Sanchez compares more to Palmer if you want to use another SC QB to compare him to.

Honestly the thing that worries the most is the Chiefs being in position for one of these guys then not taking him.

TRR
01-04-2009, 08:45 PM
Even with Sanchez possibly declaring, I still like both Stafford and Bradford better. I just like their track record better. I think Sanchez could benefit from another year of playing time in college.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 08:45 PM
Well, I could be totally reading him wrong but he appeared to have already made his decision. His mannerisms were of a confident person, not someone who was up in the air.

Additionally, the way he delivered the "Well, USC is in the position for a National Championship every year" line sounded more like "They'll be there, whether I am or not".

And he said it'll be "fun" to make the decision. Again, I may be totally reading into his body language but I think he's entering the draft.

Ironically enough, I went out for food about an hour ago and spent 10 minutes talking to a USC fan who was in town doing some skiing. He actually goes to the games and he confirmed what I already suspected to be the case:

Sanchez threads in to tight and multiple coverage better that any Quarterback he's seen step on that field, USC or opponent.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Even with Sanchez possibly declaring, I still like both Stafford and Bradford better. I just like their track record better. I think Sanchez could benefit from another year of playing time in college.

I'd be curious as to what the talking heads will say if he does declare, especially with Kiper, McShay and Blackledge all saying that Stafford and Bradford should return to school.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 08:46 PM
Even with Sanchez possibly declaring, I still like both Stafford and Bradford better. I just like their track record better. I think Sanchez could benefit from another year of playing time in college.

If you can show me one thing Bradford does better I'd love to hear it....considering he's the one who will have to learn to play from center and never faces pressure.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 08:47 PM
we like the cars, the cars that go BOOM.

BryanBusby
01-04-2009, 08:48 PM
I'd take Sanchez before Bradford without any hesitation. Now Stafford or Sanchez...tough question.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 08:48 PM
It is significantly stronger, he and Leinart are really nothing alike.

Sanchez compares more to Palmer if you want to use another SC QB to compare him to.

Honestly the thing that worries the most is the Chiefs being in position for one of these guys then not taking him.

We think alike. Under Carl/Herm, I'd really be scared. These days? Not so much.

L.A. Chieffan
01-04-2009, 08:48 PM
Ironically enough, I went out for food about an hour ago and spent 10 minutes talking to a USC fan who was in town doing some skiing. He actually goes to the games and he confirmed what I already suspected to be the case:

Sanchez threads in to tight and multiple coverage better that any Quarterback he's seen step on that field, USC or opponent.

Well, I guess that settles it then. Thank you random USC fan who was in town for skiing, we can now make our pick based upon your expert advice.

dorseybowe
01-04-2009, 08:49 PM
I'd be curious as to what the talking head will say if he does declare, especially with Kiper, McShay and Blackledge all saying that Stafford and Bradford should return to school.

What a reputable source! ROFL

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 08:49 PM
If you can show me one thing Bradford does better I'd love to hear it...

Sell tickets to Oklahoma fans

Mecca
01-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Well, I guess that settles it then. Thank you random USC fan who was in town for skiing, we can now make our pick based upon your expert advice.

You seem to have some kind of issue with SC players despite them you know having some of the best talent in all of college football.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 08:49 PM
Even with Sanchez possibly declaring, I still like both Stafford and Bradford better. I just like their track record better. I think Sanchez could benefit from another year of playing time in college.

Track record? This isn't track.

If you're saying that Bradford would be a better pro than Sanchez, we couldn't disagree more.

Tribal Warfare
01-04-2009, 08:50 PM
Well Stafford knows that he'll be picked at least 3rd in the draft with previous evidence that was presented here.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 08:50 PM
I just don't see the track record comment, unless he's just referring to stats and nothing more.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 08:52 PM
What a reputable source! ROFL

I'll take the word of someone who's actually played the position, over someone who hasn't 10/10 times.

Tribal Warfare
01-04-2009, 08:54 PM
I'd be curious as to what the talking heads will say if he does declare, especially with Kiper, McShay and Blackledge all saying that Stafford and Bradford should return to school.

McShay does have Stafford going to KC BTW

dorseybowe
01-04-2009, 08:56 PM
I'll take the word of someone who's actually played the position, over someone who hasn't 10/10 times.

It may have seem that way, but I wasn't intending to criticize you.

I just find it ironic that ESPN thinks that Blackledge can judge QB talent, when he was such an epic bust.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 08:57 PM
McShay does have Stafford going to KC BTW

He has Sam Bradford as the 1st pick and Aaron Maybin in the top 5 so I wouldn't really hold that up as a great list.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 08:58 PM
McShay does have Stafford going to KC BTW

I know, and that's based on McShay thinking he will declare, not that he should/shouldn't.

Mr. Laz
01-04-2009, 09:02 PM
Ironically enough, I went out for food about an hour ago and spent 10 minutes talking to a USC fan who was in town doing some skiing. He actually goes to the games and he confirmed what I already suspected to be the case:

Sanchez threads in to tight and multiple coverage better that any Quarterback he's seen step on that field, USC or opponent.
so you're saying that all the USC fans agree that Sanchez is great?

wow, well that confirms it then


........ we're going to the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Mecca
01-04-2009, 09:04 PM
Laz is here to tell us how SC sucks.

DeezNutz
01-04-2009, 09:12 PM
The draft decision is coming?

Hope it has a nut rag or something...

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 09:16 PM
Well, I guess that settles it then. Thank you random USC fan who was in town for skiing, we can now make our pick based upon your expert advice.

Rough day fluffing the male porn stars? :shrug:

EyePod
01-04-2009, 09:18 PM
It may have seem that way, but I wasn't intending to criticize you.

I just find it ironic that ESPN thinks that Blackledge can judge QB talent, when he was such an epic bust.

Just cause you can't play doesn't mean that you don't know what you need to play right....

kcchiefsus
01-04-2009, 09:18 PM
It may have seem that way, but I wasn't intending to criticize you.

I just find it ironic that ESPN thinks that Blackledge can judge QB talent, when he was such an epic bust.

So by your thought process the best coaches, scouts, analysts, etc. are those who were the best players. I wonder why there are not more hall of fame players now as coaches.

Being able to evaluate talent has very little to do with your own talent. Whether Todd Blackledge is a good talent evaluator has very little to do with his own career as a player.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 09:19 PM
Laz is here to tell us how SC sucks.

Slopping Mangino's trough on a daily basis can wear on a man's soul, we should cut him some slack.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 09:21 PM
By the way Scott Wright of NFL Draftcountdown had this to say..

Sanchez is the real deal, the only thing he is lacking is experience.

Personally, I'd take him over Bradford...

He is firmly behind Stafford.

Like I said though, if I included everyone in my rankings Sanchez would be ahead of Bradford.

He has fewer question marks and just as much upside, if not more.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2009, 09:22 PM
Sanchez is my first choice as well. I won't complain though if we get Stafford though.

Mr. Laz
01-04-2009, 09:27 PM
Slopping Mangino's trough on a daily basis can wear on a man's soul, we should cut him some slack.
oh look ..... it's Darth CockSucker and his fluffer boy mecca from cali


say "Hi" everybody!!!

http://www.nataliedee.com/012807/hi-pig.jpg

Mecca
01-04-2009, 09:28 PM
I'd love to know what USC or Cali has to do with wanting the Chiefs to draft the best players....

College teams have shit to do with your NFL team, if you hate a college team so much you don't want those players on your pro team you have serious problems, it's not my fault SC is a good program and yours isn't.

Brock
01-04-2009, 09:30 PM
It's almost as bad as investing so much of yourself in a college team that you picked because their uniforms look cool.

ArrowheadHawk
01-04-2009, 09:30 PM
Boosters checkbooks a little short of cash this spring? :D

Thats pretty ripe coming from a Husker fan.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 10:02 PM
oh look ..... it's Darth CockSucker and his fluffer boy mecca from cali


say "Hi" everybody!!!

http://www.nataliedee.com/012807/hi-pig.jpg

Oh look; it's the highly un-inventive Laz stealing my "fluffer" rip. Way to go "Carlos"; you're The Man!:rolleyes:

Tribal Warfare
01-04-2009, 10:03 PM
I'd love to know what USC or Cali has to do with wanting the Chiefs to draft the best players....


FWIW, possibly the greatest Chiefs' player ever went to Berkley

alanm
01-04-2009, 10:10 PM
Thats pretty ripe coming from a Husker fan.Huskers don't have a cloud of suspicion hanging over their heads like USC does. As in Bush and Leinart rumors.
Actually I was just trolling to see who bites. :D

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 10:14 PM
FWIW, possibly the greatest Chiefs' player ever went to Berkley

Bobby Bell went to Minnesota and Willie Lainer went to Morgan State. :D

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 10:16 PM
Bobby Bell went to Minnesota and Willie Lainer went to Morgan State. :D

Yep, Bobby was a Golden Gopher.

alanm
01-04-2009, 10:19 PM
Bobby Bell went to Minnesota and Willie Lainer went to Morgan State. :DDawson went to Purdue and Stenerud went to Montana St. :D

SPATCH
01-04-2009, 10:24 PM
FWIW, possibly the greatest Chiefs' player ever went to Berkley

no, remember? it was syracuse... scanlon went to syracuse

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:24 PM
I'd love to know what USC or Cali has to do with wanting the Chiefs to draft the best players....

West Coast hatred.

USC would beat any Big 12 team this year.

Hands down.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:26 PM
West Coast hatred.

USC would beat any Big 12 team this year.

Hands down.

Considering the swiss cheese defense that resides in the Big 12 that is most likely a lock.

SPATCH
01-04-2009, 10:26 PM
West Coast hatred.

USC would beat any Big 12 team this year.

Hands down.

okrahoma?

88TG88
01-04-2009, 10:27 PM
FWIW, THE greatest Chiefs' player ever went to Berkley
fyp

and didn't Mike Garrett play for the Chiefs ?

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 10:27 PM
Not saying they would win but Texas and Oklahoma have the talent to compete with SC

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2009, 10:27 PM
Dane and Mecca, what do you guys think he'll do? You think he'll come out? He just has "it" in my opinion.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:28 PM
Not saying they would win but Texas and Oklahoma have the talent to compete with SC

Texas doesn't have the team speed and neither have a defense.

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 10:29 PM
Texas doesn't have the team speed and neither have a defense.

But neither did Oregon St. :thumb:

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:29 PM
Wow!

Sounds like Dane Athan has the inside scoop!

:D

And if I'm anything like Nick, my intuition will be irrelevant!

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:31 PM
Dane and Mecca, what do you guys think he'll do? You think he'll come out? He just has "it" in my opinion.

In case you missed it:

http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5357684&postcount=42
(http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=5357684)

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:31 PM
Dane and Mecca, what do you guys think he'll do? You think he'll come out? He just has "it" in my opinion.

It's hard to get a read on....Sanchez is a guy that dreamed of going to SC and playing in the rose bowl then played his best game on that field. I could see him feeling accomplished in that regard but he also has always been a guy that seemed like being the QB for SC was his dream, and winning a championship was it.

alanm
01-04-2009, 10:35 PM
But neither did Oregon St. :thumb:Beaver trumps all. :D

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 10:42 PM
Texas doesn't have the team speed and neither have a defense.

LMAO not this again. I will continue to watch real football in the Big 12, while you watch a bunch of cupcakes play in the pac 10.

Sorry, OU and Texas both could beat USC any givin Saturday.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 10:43 PM
LMAO not this again. I will continue to watch real football in the Big 12, while you watch a bunch of cupcakes play in the pac 10.

Sorry, OU and Texas both could beat USC any givin Saturday.

givin? givin? seriously? jesus.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 10:45 PM
givin? givin? seriously? jesus.

What do you expect from someone who thinks that Oklahoma runs a pro-style offense?

KC kid
01-04-2009, 10:45 PM
I like Sanchez a lot, but I don't think he has the bigtime arm. It is however about on par with Bradford's. I think Sanchez could be had in round 2

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 10:45 PM
LMAO not this again. I will continue to watch real football in the Big 12 where you watch a bunch of cupcakes play in the pac 10.

Sorry, OU and Texas both could beat USC any givin Saturday.

I'm a Big 12 fan but USC is the best team in the country. They could bitch slap OU and Texas.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-04-2009, 10:50 PM
Dane and Mecca, Oh I see. Yeah I think he's coming out too. His stock couldn't be any higher after that amazing performance.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:51 PM
LMAO not this again. I will continue to watch real football in the Big 12, while you watch a bunch of cupcakes play in the pac 10.

Sorry, OU and Texas both could beat USC any givin Saturday.

You're smokin' crack

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Dane and Mecca, Oh I see. Yeah I think he's coming out too. His stock couldn't be any higher after that amazing performance.

And I think he learned from Leinart's mistake of staying one year too long.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:52 PM
Real football is everyone running a spread offense, while having the highest rated defense in the conference be 45th in the country...yea that's real football alright.

The Big 12 has been overrated this entire season.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 10:53 PM
What do you expect from someone who thinks that Oklahoma runs a pro-style offense?

good point. I hope I don't get mad cow!

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/31/51999805_b811fe653d.jpg

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:53 PM
Real football is everyone running a spread offense, while having the highest rated defense in the conference be 45th in the country...yea that's real football alright.

The Big 12 has been overrated this entire season.

There's no sense in arguing with someone from Oklahoma.

The mere fact that the Pac-10 is 5-0 in bowl games should say something...

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 10:54 PM
What do you expect from someone who thinks that Oklahoma runs a pro-style offense?

Do you know what a pro-style offense is?

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 10:55 PM
And I think he learned from Leinart's mistake of staying one year too long.

in all honesty, I can't BLAME leinart for staying that extra year. he was fresh off the heisman and (basically) back to back national championships. had he beaten texas and bush not had the phenomenal year he had that year, he'd be considered one of (if not THE) best QB in college history. two heismans and three national championships would have been fucking epic, and unbeatable.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 10:55 PM
I'm a Big 12 fan but USC is the best team in the country. They could bitch slap OU and Texas.

Yep, they'd shred Boob Douche and Mack Clown like cheddar at Taco Bell.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Do you know what a pro-style offense is?

more importantly... do you?

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 10:55 PM
Do you know what a pro-style offense is?

ROFL

No, I don't. Please explain for me.

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 10:56 PM
Real football is everyone running a spread offense, while having the highest rated defense in the conference be 45th in the country...yea that's real football alright.

The Big 12 has been overrated this entire season.

And it's still a tougher conference than the Pac 10

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:56 PM
in all honesty, I can't BLAME leinart for staying that extra year. he was fresh off the heisman and (basically) back to back national championships. had he beaten texas and bush not had the phenomenal year he had that year, he'd be considered one of (if not THE) best QB in college history. two heismans and three national championships would have been fucking epic, and unbeatable.

I can't "blame" him, but he cost himself about $40 million dollars.

National Championship? $40 million dollars.

I know which one I'd pick.

:evil:

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:56 PM
And it's still a tougher conference than the Pac 10

ROFL

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:57 PM
And it's still a tougher conference than the Pac 10

Ask Oklahoma state about that.

alanm
01-04-2009, 10:58 PM
I'm a Big 12 fan but USC is the best team in the country. They could bitch slap OU and Texas.When their tied into the Rose Bowl all the time against a down Big 11 it's just speculation as to how they would fare against Texas this year. Probably been high scoring though. But nooooooooo.. Pac 10 and Big 10 had to keep their little tradition thing going.. ;)

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 10:58 PM
Ask Oklahoma state about that.

But. But. But.

Li'l Stumpy doesn't root for Oklahoma State!

That's different.

LMAO

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:58 PM
Do you know what a pro-style offense is?

If you think playing from the shotgun 99% of the time is a pro style offense I have some news for you...

What USC does is pro style, what Boston College did with Ryan that was pro style what Oklahoma/Texas/OK State/Missouri/Kansas etc do is not pro style.

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 10:59 PM
I went to the Apple Cup this year

The Pac-10 is awesome I tell ya

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 10:59 PM
There's no sense in arguing with someone from Oklahoma, or going to Oklahoma, or even stopping to take a dump in Oklahoma on the way to anywhere but Oklahoma.

The mere fact that Kazakhstan has more to offer than Oklahoma should tell you right away that Oklahoma and Texas are the ass-pit of America

FYP.:D

Mecca
01-04-2009, 10:59 PM
When their tied into the Rose Bowl all the time against a down Big 11 it's just speculation as to how they would fare against Texas this year. Probably been high scoring though. But nooooooooo.. Pac 10 and Big 10 had to keep their little tradition thing going.. ;)

High scoring....are you aware of how good the SC defense was this year?

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:00 PM
I can't "blame" him, but he cost himself about $40 million dollars.

National Championship? $40 million dollars.

I know which one I'd pick.

:evil:

oh, no doubt. I wouldn't even have to think about it.

Chiefshrink
01-04-2009, 11:01 PM
boy that would help us out....maybe something will finally break our way

When you are in a position to go high and it looks like you are going to picked by a team you don't want to be picked by knowing you can get about the same $$ next yr you wonder if some players stay another yr for that reason?

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 11:03 PM
ROFL

No, I don't. Please explain for me.

It usually consists of 2 RB's(usually short black guys who run the ball), 2 WR's (they catch the ball), and 1 TE ( a big guy who can block and catch! crazy I know), and the QB(usual white guy who throws the ball) is under center.

Now, if you understand this, Sam Bradford takes snaps from under center, OU does have 2 RB formations. That, is a pro-style offense.

Now remember, before your next smart ass remark, remember what I said earlier, THEY PASS MORE than most pro-style offenses. So while technically its a pro-style, it's transformed to a spread some.

alanm
01-04-2009, 11:03 PM
High scoring....are you aware of how good the SC defense was this year?Yes it's good. But you missed my point. Their not playing Texas. We'll never know.
Edit. They didn't play Texas. Typing too fast.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 11:04 PM
I can't "blame" him, but he cost himself about $40 million dollars.

National Championship? $40 million dollars.

I know which one I'd pick.

:evil:

San Francisco or Phoenix? I think I would rather live in Phoenix.

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 11:04 PM
ROFL

I am seriously not going to even discuss this. Ask anyone out there that knows something about college football and they all say the same (except for USC of course) that the Big 12 > Pac 10. Sorry.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 11:05 PM
It usually consists of 2 RB's(usually short black guys who run the ball), 2 WR's (they catch the ball), and 1 TE ( a big guy who can block and catch! crazy I know), and the QB(usual white guy who throws the ball) is under center.

Now, if you understand this, Sam Bradford takes snaps from under center, OU does have 2 RB formations. That, is a pro-style offense.

Now remember, before your next smart ass remark, remember what I said earlier, THEY PASS MORE than most pro-style offenses. So while technically its a pro-style, it's transformed to a spread some.

This is pretty god damn funny.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:05 PM
San Francisco or Phoenix? I think I would rather live in Phoenix.

Really?

Not me, Brough.

Marin County is nirvana.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:05 PM
It usually consists of 2 RB's(usually short black guys who run the ball), 2 WR's (they catch the ball), and 1 TE ( a big guy who can block and catch! crazy I know), and the QB(usual white guy who throws the ball) is under center.

Now, if you understand this, Sam Bradford takes snaps from under center, OU does have 2 RB formations. That, is a pro-style offense.

Now remember, before your next smart ass remark, remember what I said earlier, THEY PASS MORE than most pro-style offenses. So while technically its a pro-style, it's transformed to a spread some.

watching some highlights on youtube, it appears that they're in the spread 55-60% of the time. they have some wide splits, etc.

that isn't 'pro-style' offense.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:06 PM
It usually consists of 2 RB's(usually short black guys who run the ball), 2 WR's (they catch the ball), and 1 TE ( a big guy who can block and catch! crazy I know), and the QB(usual white guy who throws the ball) is under center.

Now, if you understand this, Sam Bradford takes snaps from under center, OU does have 2 RB formations. That, is a pro-style offense.

Now remember, before your next smart ass remark, remember what I said earlier, THEY PASS MORE than most pro-style offenses. So while technically its a pro-style, it's transformed to a spread some.

Jesus.

Tapdancing.

Mother.

Loving.

Tittyfucking.

Christ.

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 11:06 PM
High scoring....are you aware of how good the SC defense was this year?

Are you aware of the competition they played?

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:06 PM
I am seriously not going to even discuss this. Ask anyone out there that knows something about college football and they all say the same (except for USC of course) that the Big 12 > Pac 10. Sorry.

well, the average fan would say that. and I'm not a pac 10 homer. HOWEVER, they haven't lost a bowl game this year. what is the big 12's bowl record? yeah, thought so. not as good as the pac 10's bowl record this year.

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 11:07 PM
The option is the key to winning in the NFL

Print it

Mecca
01-04-2009, 11:07 PM
watching some highlights on youtube, it appears that they're in the spread 55-60% of the time. they have some wide splits, etc.

that isn't 'pro-style' offense.

By his standard the entire Big 12 is pro style when it isn't.....if you think what Texas and Oklahoma are doing is pro style god help you.

SPATCH
01-04-2009, 11:07 PM
FYP.:D

what was with the dig at texas in the end? the ass-pit of america? for real?

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Jesus.

Tapdancing.

Mother.

Loving.

Christ.

ROFL

you have to get 'tittyfucking' in there. that jesus LOVED the gams, apparently.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:07 PM
Are you aware of the competition they played?

Yeah.

Chattanooga and Baylor really put up a fight, didn't they? Those powerhouses were such a challenge for Oklahoma.

JFC.

You're a fucking retard.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 11:08 PM
Are you aware of the competition they played?

This is so funny, lets rail on the best defense in college football since 1992..yea they're not all that good right..

I'm sure those great Big 12 teams would just stomp on em uh huh.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:08 PM
ROFL

you have to get 'tittyfucking' in there. that jesus LOVED the gams, apparently.

Done.

How 'bout between Loving and Christ?

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 11:08 PM
Ok, your right, OU is more spread than pro style. I will give you that. I was wrong, please forgive me.

Please keep explaining how the pac 10 was tougher than the big 12

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 11:08 PM
Really?

Not me, Brough.

Marin County is nirvana.

I'm thinking of heading to the Santa Carla / Santa Cruz area myself.

alanm
01-04-2009, 11:09 PM
well, the average fan would say that. and I'm not a pac 10 homer. HOWEVER, they haven't lost a bowl game this year. what is the big 12's bowl record? yeah, thought so. not as good as the pac 10's bowl record this year.Leave the Big 12 North out of this argument. They held up their end of the bargain. :harumph:

LiL stumppy
01-04-2009, 11:09 PM
By his standard the entire Big 12 is pro style when it isn't.....if you think what Texas and Oklahoma are doing is pro style god help you.

I never once said Texas ran a pro style. I said OU runs it in a way

Mecca
01-04-2009, 11:09 PM
The Big 12 is heavily overrated if you wanna give me teams like Texas and OU I'll accept that but all the other teams are frauds.

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 11:09 PM
OU has a bunch of fat freaks on the O Line, I dunno how much pressure SC could get.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:10 PM
By his standard the entire Big 12 is pro style when it isn't.....if you think what Texas and Oklahoma are doing is pro style god help you.

I love how we don't even have to get into how little bradford was pressured to dismantle the cult of oklahoma's offense.

it's like mooj said in 40 year old virgin--my sister's DICK would look big on a bigscreen (aka, any average QB could look like an olympian god with oklahoma's offense)

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:10 PM
Really?

Not me, Brough.

Marin County is nirvana.

This, other than the ridonkulous cost of living.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Done.

How 'bout between Loving and Christ?

yep, that works. rep.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:11 PM
Ok, your right, OU is more spread than pro style. I will give you that. I was wrong, please forgive me.

Please keep explaining how the pac 10 was tougher than the big 12

Beating Baylor, TCU, Chattanooga, Kansas State, Texas A&M, Washington and Cincinnati is NOT impressive.

The ONLY team that was worth a shit, they lost to in Texas.

Pull your head out, Dude.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:12 PM
This, other than the ridonkulous cost of living.

If I've got $40 million from an NFL contract, I'm in.

Otherwise, not so much.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:12 PM
Ok, your right, OU is more spread than pro style. I will give you that. I was wrong, please forgive me.

Please keep explaining how the pac 10 was tougher than the big 12

jesus fucking christ, that was a quick backstroke. I remember when I was young, and in over my head, my dad would just give me this look and say 'that shovel in your hand--keep digging'

you're digging the hole pretty deep, III.

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 11:13 PM
But I'd like to see SC and Florida, I think Florida is better.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:13 PM
Leave the Big 12 North out of this argument. They held up their end of the bargain. :harumph:

heh, I know. I'm a mizzou fan. but it's hard to beat the pac 10's spotless record.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:13 PM
jesus fucking christ, that was a quick backstroke. I remember when I was young, and in over my head, my dad would just give me this look and say 'that shovel in your hand--keep digging'

you're digging the hole pretty deep, III.

Shovel?

III is operating a fucking backhoe, apparently.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:13 PM
I never once said Texas ran a pro style. I said OU runs it in a way

and I'm a porn star, in a way.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:14 PM
I'm thinking of heading to the Santa Carla / Santa Cruz area myself.

Be careful surfing in Santa Cruz.

Great White sharks eat at least a few divers/surfers each year.

No shit.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:14 PM
But I'd like to see SC and Florida, I think Florida is better.

I think you're wrong but it would be a much better match up.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:14 PM
and I'm a porn star, in a way.

You're just BEGGING someone to ask about your avatar again, aren't you?

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Shovel?

III is operating a fucking backhoe, apparently.

I was thinking snow blower but that works as well.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:15 PM
You're just BEGGING someone to ask about your avatar again, aren't you?

It looks like Charlie Runkel on Californication

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 11:15 PM
Flordia's spread vs. USC defense would be awesome to see.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:16 PM
You're just BEGGING someone to ask about your avatar again, aren't you?

ROFL

I just gave you positive rep, and you had to go and make me guffaw. stop it.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 11:17 PM
Flordia's spread vs. USC defense would be awesome to see.

It would basically be the matchup of pro style vs college style.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 11:17 PM
It looks like Charlie Runkel on Californication

That is who it is. I knew it reminded me of some tv show.

SPATCH
01-04-2009, 11:22 PM
Beating Baylor, TCU, Chattanooga, Kansas State, Texas A&M, Washington and Cincinnati is NOT impressive.

The ONLY team that was worth a shit, they lost to in Texas.

Pull your head out, Dude.

uhhhh... while i would tend to agree that USC would probably be able to beat anyone in the country right now... you're going a little overboard with this whole "big 12 is a bunch of gays" thing...

... if texas and OU both win, you're not going to find too many college football people that say the big 12 wasn't the best conference in america. pac-10 going 5-0 or not... so you might wanna relax with these jabs on the big 12 until they actually screw it up (which is very probable)

oh, and if you truly think that texas tech and oklahoma state are teams that "aren't worth a shit", then you don't know college football

Direckshun
01-04-2009, 11:23 PM
What are the odds Sanchez is #1 overall next season?

That's the major holdup, I would imagine. As long as Sanchez doesn't shit down his leg next year, he's the consensus #1 overall.

This year, it's going to be hard to upend Stafford. Hell many teams out there may prefer Bradford, as well.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:26 PM
What are the odds Sanchez is #1 overall next season?

That's the major holdup, I would imagine. As long as Sanchez doesn't shit down his leg next year, he's the consensus #1 overall.

This year, it's going to be hard to upend Stafford. Hell many teams out there may prefer Bradford, as well.

that's just the problem though. there have been guys who were 'consensus' top overall picks 'for next year' who didn't even go in the top three rounds the next year. it's sooooooo easy to fall off (not that I'm saying sanchez will, but you never know)

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:30 PM
This year, it's going to be hard to upend Stafford. Hell many teams out there may prefer Bradford, as well.

I don't see that at all, especially the part about Bradford.

I think Bradford is a creation of the internet geeks that wouldn't know how to evaluate a QB if their life depended on it.

I have a hard time believing that a NFL team would prefer a kid that they will have to TEACH how to play in a pro offense - instead of taking one of the two that have already proven they can, and excel at it.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:31 PM
I don't see that at all, especially the part about Bradford.

I think Bradford is a creation of the internet geeks that wouldn't know how to evaluate a QB if their life depended on it.

I have a hard time believing that a NFL team would prefer a kid that they will have to TEACH how to play in a pro offense - instead of taking one of the two that have already proven they can, and excel at it.

you DO remember that the lions have the top overall pick, yes?

Direckshun
01-04-2009, 11:31 PM
I don't see that at all, especially the part about Bradford.

I think Bradford is a creation of the internet geeks that wouldn't know how to evaluate a QB if their life depended on it.

I have a hard time believing that a NFL team would prefer a kid that they will have to TEACH how to play in a pro offense - instead of taking one of the two that have already proven they can, and excel at it.

True or false:

Teams have made lousy decisions with Top 5 picks before.

Direckshun
01-04-2009, 11:31 PM
you DO remember that the lions have the top overall pick, yes?

Great minds.

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:31 PM
you DO remember that the lions have the top overall pick, yes?

Yeah, but Millen is gone. Gotta give them the benefit of the doubt until the new regime proves otherwise.

Darth CarlSatan
01-04-2009, 11:32 PM
Be careful surfing in Santa Cruz.

Great White sharks eat at least a few divers/surfers each year.

No shit.

I don't surf, but I would like to hang at the beach from the afternoon through the night.
Maybe hang out at the Boardwalk and watch the world go by for a while. I'd be in 9er's country, so no major rival bullshit to deal with. I've heard San Diego is great, but there's NO fucking way I'm gonna' live amongst the Sparkler Faithful.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 11:32 PM
I think Bradford could do well in an Air Coryell or WCO system. He reminds me alot of Trent Green. Not a franchise QB but the next tier down.

Mecca
01-04-2009, 11:32 PM
My view is Bradford is the one with the most to lose, he loses nearly his entire offense while SC and UGA should improve offensively next year so all of this could be interesting on who comes out.

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 11:32 PM
you DO remember that the lions have the top overall pick, yes?

And Crabtree is available

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:33 PM
I don't surf, but I would like to hang at the beach from the afternoon through the night.
Maybe hang out at the Boardwalk and watch the world go by for a while. I'd be in 9er's country, so no major rival bullshit to deal with. I've heard San Diego is great, but there's NO fucking way I'm gonna' live amongst the Sparkler Faithful.

I've been to whale's vagina a few times (the wife has family who lives there)--it's fucking beautiful. we gotta go down there again for another visit here soon, if nothing else than to enjoy that freakish weather and atmosphere. it's just quite possibly the nicest city in america.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:34 PM
uhhhh... while i would tend to agree that USC would probably be able to beat anyone in the country right now... you're going a little overboard with this whole "big 12 is a bunch of gays" thing...

... if texas and OU both win, you're not going to find too many college football people that say the big 12 wasn't the best conference in america. pac-10 going 5-0 or not... so you might wanna relax with these jabs on the big 12 until they actually screw it up (which is very probable)

oh, and if you truly think that texas tech and oklahoma state are teams that "aren't worth a shit", then you don't know college football

Uh, you missed the entire point, Fucktard.

Fucking n00bs.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:34 PM
My view is Bradford is the one with the most to lose, he loses nearly his entire offense while SC and UGA should improve offensively next year so all of this could be interesting on who comes out.

DON'T YOU DARE FUCKING JINX IT!

OnTheWarpath58
01-04-2009, 11:35 PM
True or false:

Teams have made lousy decisions with Top 5 picks before.

True.

But when is the last time there were THREE QB's that could potentially go Top 5?

They have a 66% chance of choosing wisely, provided they all declare.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 11:36 PM
They have a 66% chance of choosing wisely, provided they all declare.

Thats the percent you will get a Pro Bowl QB with a top 5 pick as well.

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:38 PM
True.

But when is the last time there were THREE QB's that could potentially go Top 5?

They have a 66% chance of choosing wisely, provided they all declare.

hmmmmm.... 1999 comes to mind, but that's a depressing thought--couch and akili smith BOTH bombed out, and donovan mcnabb is the only one that hit.

SPATCH
01-04-2009, 11:39 PM
Uh, you missed the entire point, ****tard.

****ing n00bs.

then what the **** was your point? you've been trashin the big 12 throughout this whole thread...

please, dazzle me with "the point"

kcpasco
01-04-2009, 11:39 PM
hmmmmm.... 1999 comes to mind, but that's a depressing thought--couch and akili smith BOTH bombed out, and donovan mcnabb is the only one that hit.

Akili Smith :eek:

I don't wish that upon any franchise, except maybe Denver or Oakland.

DaneMcCloud
01-04-2009, 11:40 PM
then what fuck was your point? you've been trashin the big 12 throughout this whole thread...

please, dazzle me with "the point"

Go fuck yourself, Cunt.

If you can't read, I can't explain it to you.

Dumbshit.

ChiefsCountry
01-04-2009, 11:41 PM
So who takes over at USC - I know Mustain is 3rd string, the backup cant think of his name but he was a 5 or 4 star recruit, or Barkley?

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:42 PM
So who takes over at USC - I know Mustain is 3rd string, the backup cant think of his name but he was a 5 or 4 star recruit, or Barkley?

heh, mustain is the third string? ROFL

jesus. for being so highly touted, you'd assume he'd be the heir apparent. he ain't getting any younger.......

Crush
01-04-2009, 11:43 PM
hmmmmm.... 1999 comes to mind, but that's a depressing thought--couch and akili smith BOTH bombed out, and donovan mcnabb is the only one that hit.

Hopefully, we'll have someone in charge that is competent enough to make that decision.

SPATCH
01-04-2009, 11:54 PM
Go **** yourself, ****.

If you can't read, I can't explain it to you.

Dumbshit.

i just told you that i read the thread...

you're such a fucking child

Ebolapox
01-04-2009, 11:58 PM
i just told you that i read the thread...

you're such a fucking child

heh, you should tell him how much music you illegally pirate next. that'll help your cause :p

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:00 AM
i just told you that i read the thread...

you're such a fucking child

No, you're a fucking moron.

I said that USC would beat any team in the Big 12 this season. How is that "bashing" the Big 12? Who the fuck are you, crybaby? The commissioner of the Big 12?

Missouri barely beat Northwestern in overtime. That's impressive?
Nebraska barely won. Impressive?
Kansas beat fucking Minnesota. Impressive?
Texas Tech lost. Impressive?

JFC.

Texas should beat OSU handily.

OU will lose.

Happy now, Fuckface?

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:02 AM
heh, you should tell him how much music you illegally pirate next. that'll help your cause :p

Yeah, that's right.

I'll take that spatula and stick it so far up his n00b ass he'll never come back.

Mecca
01-05-2009, 12:06 AM
Mitch Mustain and Aaron Corp are the backups and the odds of Barkley playing right away are slim to none.

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 12:09 AM
No, you're a ****ing moron.

I said that USC would beat any team in the Big 12 this season. How is that "bashing" the Big 12? Who the **** are you, crybaby? The commissioner of the Big 12?

Missouri barely beat Northwestern in overtime. That's impressive?
Nebraska barely won. Impressive?
Kansas beat ****ing Minnesota. Impressive?
Texas Tech lost. Impressive?

JFC.

Texas should beat OSU handily.

OU will lose.

Happy now, ****face?

well it seemed like you were getting a little enamored with the pac-10's success this bowl season...

once you started making jabs at OU's schedule, (which is apparently chalked full of cup-cakes according to you)... i'm going to take it as you saying that the big 12 is weak... and that is just patently wrong

and if OU beats florida by more than a touchdown, then i say they could give USC all that they could handle, and even beat the mother fuckers

Ebolapox
01-05-2009, 12:09 AM
Mitch Mustain and Aaron Corp are the backups and the odds of Barkley playing right away are slim to none.

so what the hell is up with mitch mustain? he couldn't beat out casey dick, and he doesn't have much longer in college (isn't he running out of eligibility soon?)--what are his chances of starting next year?

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:09 AM
I think Bradford could do well in an Air Coryell or WCO system. He reminds me alot of Trent Green. Not a franchise QB but the next tier down.

Let's bank on Detroit's ongoing lack of focus, draft mojo, and the clusterfuck that IS Ford family ownership; I do believe we'll come out on top.

The Rams may try to get stupid with us, but I bet they try to get stupid with Detroit first.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:11 AM
so what the hell is up with mitch mustain? he couldn't beat out casey dick, and he doesn't have much longer in college (isn't he running out of eligibility soon?)--what are his chances of starting next year?

He joined Megadeath.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:13 AM
well it seemed like you were getting a little enamored with the pac-10's success this bowl season...

once you started making jabs at OU's schedule, (which is apparently chalked full of cup-cakes according to you)... i'm going to take it as you saying that the big 12 is weak... and that is just patently wrong

and if OU beats florida by more than a touchdown, then i say they could give USC all that they could handle, and even beat the mother fuckers

So you're going to tell me that Chattanooga, Baylor, A&M and K-State are top notch competition? Really? If so, please, go on!

Additionally, pointing out that Oklahoma played a "cupcake" schedule isn't bashing the Big 12: It's a fact.

I'm sorry that your vag was wounded by the appearance of factual information.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:16 AM
then what the **** was your point? you've been trashin the big 12 throughout this whole thread...

please, dazzle me with "the point"

I'm going to save you some misery. College football at The Planet is like science lab; it's a clinical affair, and there is NO God(Rah-Rah)on the menu.

If you come to the topic of College Football at The Planet like Jethro Bodean in the big fur coat and little "state" flag, you will get butt-hurt.

Mecca
01-05-2009, 12:17 AM
so what the hell is up with mitch mustain? he couldn't beat out casey dick, and he doesn't have much longer in college (isn't he running out of eligibility soon?)--what are his chances of starting next year?

He's considered a RS soph right now so he has 2 more years.

Ebolapox
01-05-2009, 12:20 AM
He joined Megadeath.

I don't know who they are. are they related to megadeth?

Ebolapox
01-05-2009, 12:23 AM
He's considered a RS soph right now so he has 2 more years.

point is, if he doesn't start next year, he'll have wasted three prime years of possible start-time on the bench.

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 12:30 AM
So you're going to tell me that Chattanooga, Baylor, A&M and K-State are top notch competition? Really? If so, please, go on!

Additionally, pointing out that Oklahoma played a "cupcake" schedule isn't bashing the Big 12: It's a fact.

I'm sorry that your vag was wounded by the appearance of factual information.

oklahoma playing a cup-cake schedule is ****ing FACTUAL?! according to who? you're delusional...

USC played washington, washington state, stanford... those teams are right on par with the kstate's, a&m's, and baylor's of the world..

they played notre dame, who is without a ****ing shadow of a doubt worse than Cincinnati or TCU.

Oh btw, the fact that you think that the big east conference champions are a team that "isn't worth a shit" just adds to the fact that you are just reaching with this whole thing..

add all that up and oklahoma played a schedule that could easily be argued was tougher than USC...

you're honestly just making yourself look bad

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:31 AM
I don't know who they are. are they related to megadeth?

ROFL Goddamnit; I knew I was spelling that wrong at the time, but I was too lazy to fact check.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:34 AM
I've been to whale's vagina a few times (the wife has family who lives there)--it's fucking beautiful. we gotta go down there again for another visit here soon, if nothing else than to enjoy that freakish weather and atmosphere. it's just quite possibly the nicest city in america.

ROFL

Jesus Christ; I bet those ass-pirates win the division and go to the dance. Who's left to stop them?

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:36 AM
oklahoma playing a cup-cake schedule is ****ing FACTUAL?! according to who? you're delusional...

USC played washington, washington state, stanford... those teams are right on par with the kstate's, a&m's, and baylor's of the world..

they played notre dame, who is without a ****ing shadow of a doubt worse than Cincinnati or TCU.

Oh btw, the fact that you think that the big east conference champions are a team that "isn't worth a shit" just adds to the fact that you are just reaching with this whole thing..

add all that up and oklahoma played a schedule that could easily be argued was tougher than USC...

you're honestly just making yourself look bad

Aaaaaand, he doesn't listen. Well, good luck Chum. And by "Chum" I DO mean shark-food.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:38 AM
Aaaaaand, he doesn't listen. Well, good luck Chum. And by "Chum" I DO mean shark-food.

Thank you, DCS.

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 12:42 AM
Thank you, DCS.

holy shit..... i just looked it up and oklahoma is NUMBER FUCKING 1 in strength of schedule...

eat crow right now mother fucker.... CUP CAKE SCHEDULE? you've lost all credibility

here's the link.... i win.... you lose... good night

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:44 AM
holy shit..... i just looked it up and oklahoma is NUMBER FUCKING 1 in strength of schedule...

eat crow right now mother fucker.... CUP CAKE SCHEDULE? you've lost all credibility

here's the link.... i win.... you lose... good night

http://www.sportsline.com/collegefootball/polls/119

Cincinnati lost to #20 Va Tech.

Whew! I'm glad that USC didn't fact Va. Tech!

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 12:44 AM
Cincinnati lost to #20 Va Tech.

Whew! I'm glad that USC didn't fact Va. Tech!

reeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaching

for fuck's sake.... USC's SOS is 67!!!!!!!!1 SIXTY mother fucking SEVEN

Mecca
01-05-2009, 12:48 AM
You do understand OU's schedule strength is overblown because of the ludicrously high rankings of teams like Oklahoma state right?

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:51 AM
You do understand OU's schedule strength is overblown because of the ludicrously high rankings of teams like Oklahoma state right?

No, he can't understand.

His retard gene is rated too high.

Ebolapox
01-05-2009, 12:54 AM
You never go full retard.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 12:55 AM
Thank you, DCS.

I'm afraid he's going to have to work his way up to "Beaker" in The Planet College Football Science Lab, and it could prove to be a hard climb indeed.

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 12:57 AM
You do understand OU's schedule strength is overblown because of the ludicrously high rankings of teams like Oklahoma state right?

you're basing that off of the holiday bowl, right?

before dez bryant got hurt, ok state was the better team... they were working oregon... but they deflated after he went down, and zac robinson went into total panic mode.... what would have happened if bryant never would have went down? without that shift in momentum the cowboys very well could have won that game...

then the pac 10 and big 12 would both be 4-1 right now and we wouldn't even be having this conversation....

so i don't buy the fact that ok state was ranked "ludicrously" high...

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 12:57 AM
You never go full retard.

Too late for the spatula

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 01:00 AM
Too late for the spatula

i'm forgetting which one of us claimed that the team with the #1 SOS in the entire fucking nation played the cupcake schedule....

Mecca
01-05-2009, 01:03 AM
All of the Big 12 teams are overrated due to perception of before the year started...

No one can realistically tell me that OK State, Texas Tech, Missouri those teams who were all in the top 10 at some point this year were that good, perception played out all year just the same as the "pac 10 sucks" perception did.

Oregon State had a nice year and people make fun of them, Tech and Ok State had nice years and people act like they're great.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 01:04 AM
i'm forgetting which one of us claimed that the team with the #1 SOS in the entire fucking nation played the cupcake schedule....

What I'm NOT forgetting is that you're a 21 year-old, Big 12 loving, myopic douche-nozzle.

Let's just see how many of your beloved Big 12 teams finish with bowl wins this year.

Frazod
01-05-2009, 01:05 AM
Feel the love. LMAO

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 01:06 AM
What I'm NOT forgetting is that you're a 21 year-old, Big 12 loving, myopic douche-nozzle.

Let's just see how many of your beloved Big 12 teams finish with bowl wins this year.

that's exactly what i said in my original post... the big 12 has a chance to win 5... just like the pac 10... god damn it man

SPATCH
01-05-2009, 01:09 AM
All of the Big 12 teams are overrated due to perception of before the year started...

No one can realistically tell me that OK State, Texas Tech, Missouri those teams who were all in the top 10 at some point this year were that good, perception played out all year just the same as the "pac 10 sucks" perception did.

Oregon State had a nice year and people make fun of them, Tech and Ok State had nice years and people act like they're great.

dude... he called it a cupcake schedule.... seriously...

am i just supposed to sit idly by?

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 01:21 AM
Feel the love. LMAO

ROFL

J Diddy
01-05-2009, 01:49 AM
I'd like to interrupt this thread to point out USC can lick my balls.

beach tribe
01-05-2009, 09:19 AM
The big-12 IS over-rated. That said, they are a hell of a lot better than the Pac-10. OMG.

Mr. Laz
01-05-2009, 09:21 AM
Be careful surfing in Santa Cruz.

Great White sharks eat at least a few divers/surfers each year.

No shit.
they should eat more



do you ever surf?

Lzen
01-05-2009, 09:23 AM
He joined Megadeath.

Lol. Dave's brother?

Lzen
01-05-2009, 09:28 AM
What I'm NOT forgetting is that you're a 21 year-old, Big 12 loving, myopic douche-nozzle.

Let's just see how many of your beloved Big 12 teams finish with bowl wins this year.

His Big 12 'homerism' is no different than your USC/PAC 10 homerism. He brings up some good points/arguments and all you can do is attack him personally. :rolleyes: Look Dane, I know it is hard for you to try to not be an arrogant prick. But just once, perhaps you could try.

the Talking Can
01-05-2009, 09:38 AM
Utah should be the national champ

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 09:46 AM
Utah should be the national champ

ROFL


What would they call a Championship between OK. and Utah?

The "Thank God We Get To Leave Utah and Oklahoma, If Only Temporarily"-Bowl.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 10:07 AM
His Big 12 'homerism' is no different than your USC/PAC 10 homerism. He brings up some good points/arguments and all you can do is attack him personally. :rolleyes: Look Dane, I know it is hard for you to try to not be an arrogant prick. But just once, perhaps you could try.

Then as usual, you didn't read the whole thread.

What else is new?

:shake:

smittysbar
01-05-2009, 10:09 AM
His Big 12 'homerism' is no different than your USC/PAC 10 homerism. He brings up some good points/arguments and all you can do is attack him personally. :rolleyes: Look Dane, I know it is hard for you to try to not be an arrogant prick. But just once, perhaps you could try.

I agree, even though the Big 12 may be overrated, it was FAR from a cupcake schedule. To be honest, you could take almost any team and make an argument that they played some weak competition, or that "well they lost to that team".

They are still ranked 1st in SOS, so if anything is retarded on here, I would say it is the "cupcake" comment.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 10:10 AM
dude... he called it a cupcake schedule.... seriously...

am i just supposed to sit idly by?

YOU called it a "cupcake" schedule.

Again, is the Big 12 commissioner your DAD or something? Why the fuck do you care so much about what I think?

USC has been dominant this year. Their defense may have as many as 10 guys drafted. I'm not even a USC fan. My wife graduated from UCLA and I spoke to Rick Nueheisel on the day before Christmas Eve about their program. So get the fuck off of it, Dude.

The bottom line is that USC would beat any team in the nation right now, bar none.

And that includes Oklahoma and Texas.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 10:12 AM
YOU called it a "cupcake" schedule.

Again, is the Big 12 commissioner your DAD or something? Why the fuck do you care so much about what I think?

USC has been dominant this year. Their defense may have as many as 10 guys drafted. I'm not even a USC fan. My wife graduated from UCLA and I spoke to Rick Nueheisel on the day before Christmas Eve about their program. So get the fuck off of it, Dude.

The bottom line is that USC would beat any team in the nation right now, bar none.

And that includes Oklahoma and Texas.

But...but...no one can beat Boob Douche.:rolleyes:

Lzen
01-05-2009, 10:24 AM
The bottom line is that USC would beat any team in the nation right now if they got to play in their 2nd home the Rose Bowl, bar none.

FYP, you homer.

I guess that didn't work out for them after the 2005 season, though.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 10:35 AM
FYP, you homer.

I guess that didn't work out for them after the 2005 season, though.

Uh, I'm not a homer.

But I guess that's just something you'd label me after reading one positive USC thread in 8 years. Because well, you're just so smart like that.

:rolleyes:

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 10:36 AM
FYP, you homer.

I guess that didn't work out for them after the 2005 season, though.

Oh for the love of holy fuck...:spock:


There were just as many PS fans in that stadium as USC.

Brock
01-05-2009, 10:38 AM
Oh for the love of holy ****...:spock:


There were just as many PS fans in that stadium as USC.

A 20 minute drive from home for one of the teams.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 10:43 AM
A 20 minute drive from home for one of the teams.

Trust me, I saw PLENTY of Penn State fans in Hollywood and Downtown for NYE.

The stadium looked to me on TV as if it were 2/3 USC and 1/3 Penn State, which was surprising.

DaneMcCloud
01-05-2009, 10:44 AM
A 20 minute drive from home for one of the teams.

Yeah.

At 4am with no traffic.

:D

Brock
01-05-2009, 10:49 AM
Yeah.

At 4am with no traffic.

:D

Understood, but an hour on a bus isn't quite the same as a 4 or 6 hour flight.

88TG88
01-05-2009, 10:51 AM
Oh for the love of holy ****...:spock:


There were just as many PS fans in that stadium as USC.

I was there and it was about 60 % SC 40 % PSU fans.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 11:06 AM
That team can, could, and did play anywhere. If this is such a big deal, then piss to the BCS about it.

Darth CarlSatan
01-05-2009, 11:09 AM
I was there and it was about 60 % SC 40 % PSU fans.

What the hell, let's just move every College Bowl game to America's Ass-Pit: Texas.:spock:

That way, it's warm and it's right in the middle of the Country, and no one has to assume more major mileage than the other guy.

Of course it IS Texas, and you'll want to shoot yourself in the face after being there for more than a day or two.:doh!:

Brock
01-05-2009, 11:10 AM
That team can, could, and did play anywhere. If this is such a big deal, then piss to the BCS about it.

It's not a big deal. It is an advantage for USC though.

Lzen
01-05-2009, 11:38 AM
Uh, I'm not a homer.

But I guess that's just something you'd label me after reading one positive USC thread in 8 years. Because well, you're just so smart like that.

:rolleyes:

Well, ok fine. Not so much a USC homer as a PAC10 homer.

Look, I understand that part. I want the Big 12 to do well even though I can't stand some teams like MU and OU. But let's at least to try use some logic here. You can't say 100% for certain that USC would beat OU or UT. That is your opinion. But I will bet your opinion was that there was no way USC would lose to Oregon State.