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KChiefs1
01-07-2009, 05:34 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9032992/2009-NFL-Draft:-First-round-mock

Just like last year's offseason spectacle, the 2009 NFL Draft is dependent on the underclassmen who decide to forego their collegiate careers and pursue the ultimate dream of playing in the National Football League.

This mock draft projects 18 seniors and 14 underclassmen being selected in the first round.


With the future of underclassmen not officially determined at this time — besides Illinois CB Vontae Davis, who already declared — it's impossible to include every draft-eligible prospect.

Some notable underclassmen that were left out of the projections were: Florida QB Tim Tebow, USC QB Mark Sanchez, Arizona OT Eben Britton, TCU DE Jerry Hughes, Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy, Pittsburgh RB LeSean McCoy, South Florida DE George Selvie, Ole Miss DE Greg Hardy and Auburn DT Sen'Derrick Marks.


With that said, the intrigue builds as to who the Detroit Lions will select with the first pick in the 2009 draft. The Lions are on the clock ...

1. Detroit Lions — *Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
The Lions are a team that has to rebuild with a new regime, and they will decide between an offensive tackle and a quarterback. It's a tough choice, but they select Bradford.

2. St. Louis Rams — Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
The Rams could use an upgrade in their secondary, but with two of the premier offensive tackles on the board, it comes down to Oher or Smith. The pick is Oher.
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3. Kansas City Chiefs — *Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
With Bradford off the board and not wanting to reach for a defender, this is a classic trade down point for the Chiefs. Either way, Smith comes off the board.

4. Seattle Seahawks — *Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
With Matt Hasselbeck getting older and becoming more fragile, it's apparent that Seneca Wallace isn't the answer at quarterback. Stafford is the future in Seattle.

5. Cleveland Browns — Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Statistically speaking, the Browns are not that bad at creating INTs and against the pass, but they need a front line CB who is a game changer. Jenkins is the answer.

6. Cincinnati Bengals — *Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
There is a chance that Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh are not in Cincinnati next year and with Crabtree being the best available, he's the pick.

7. Oakland Raiders — Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
Disappointed that Crabtree is off the board, the Raiders could turn their attention to Jeremy Maclin. But protecting JaMarcus Russell is a must, and Monroe is a great fit.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars — *Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
The Jaguars need a playmaker at wide receiver, and it's possible they could look at another position. But Maclin's dynamic skills are hard to pass up.

9. Green Bay Packers — *Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
The Packers were a disappointment, and they have to improve their pass rush. The selection of Brown provides Green Bay with a relentless defender with huge potential.

10. San Francisco 49ers — Rey Maualuga, LB, USC The Niners could upgrade at many positions, including quarterback, but with Mike Singletary being the head coach and defense coming first, it will be hard to pass up Maualuga.

11. Buffalo Bills — Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
The Bills have the makings of a promising defense with some great athletes, but they lack playmakers. Orakpo gives Buffalo the much-needed pass rush they desire.

12. Denver Broncos — Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
The Broncos will look to upgrade their defense with this selection, and it will come down to Taylor Mays or Curry. Curry's steady play wins out and he becomes an instant impact player.

13. Washington Redskins — Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
Now that Brown and Orakpo are off the board, the Redskins won't reach for Michael Johnson. With that said, they turn their attention to the O-line and select Smith.

14. New Orleans Saints — *Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
The Saints could use a player like Aaron Curry, but with him off the board, they will turn their attention to the secondary. Adding Davis to a woeful unit should bolster their pass defense.

15. Houston Texans — *Taylor Mays, FS, USC
The need for a playmaking defensive back is obvious, and the Texans are in a great position to get the draft's most complete safety. Mays is a starter from day one in Houston.

16. San Diego Chargers — *Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
The Chargers may look at drafting a linebacker, but Maualuga and Curry fit better than James Laurinaitis. So, getting younger at DT is the alternative and San Diego welcomes "Mount" Cody.

17. New York Jets — *Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
The Jets received a great season from Thomas Jones, but with him now 30 years old, the clock is ticking. Adding Moreno gives the Jets an impact player who adds relief for the future.

18. Chicago Bears — Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Teams in the NFL know what it takes to win: a franchise quarterback, a good running game and a defense that supplies pressure. The Bears now have two of the three with Johnson.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — *Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State
The Buccaneers could use an upgrade at WR and OT, but with Wells still on the board and the uncertain future of Cadillac Williams, the Bucs protect themselves with this pick.

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) — James Laurinaitis, MLB, Ohio State Drafting Bradford instead of an OT with their first pick was a gamble, because the top three OTs are now off the board. So, the Lions look to improve their defense with the selection of Laurinaitis.

21. Arizona Cardinals — Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
A young, rising defense with a lot of talent, the Cardinals continue to add athletes who can make a difference. With Karlos Dansby being a free agent, Cushing is the selection.

22. Philadelphia Eagles — *Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
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It's obvious that L.J. Smith is done in Philly, and adding a tight end who can block and catch is a must. Gresham is tremendously talented and adds a lot on offense.

23. Minnesota Vikings — Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
The Vikings can go in a lot of directions with this pick. Upgrading at QB, WR and OT are possibilities, but with a playmaking CB on the board, Smith is the best value.

24. New England Patriots — William Moore, FS, Missouri
The Patriots secondary is a big concern moving forward, especially with the uncertain future of Rodney Harrison. Moore's playmaking ability and hard-knocks style fit nicely in New England.

25. Atlanta Falcons — Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
The surprising Falcons have rallied behind QB Matt Ryan and RB Michael Turner. To keep things rolling for a while they have to improve upfront; hello Mr. Robinson.

26. Miami Dolphins — B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
The Dolphins will most likely use this pick to upgrade their defense. With the top linebackers being off the board, Miami turns to Raji to bolster their D-Line.

27. Baltimore Ravens — *Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
The Ravens are a defensive team that continues to bring in athletes who attack, but with Flacco as the QB of the future, they give him a weapon in local product Heyward-Bey.

28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) — Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
The Eagles got their tight end in Gresham with their first pick and will add an OT with this selection. With the top guys off the board, the Eagles reach for Gresham's teammate, Phil Loadholt.

29. Indianapolis Colts — Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
The Colts need more production upfront and have gotten good work from unforeseen sources. Jerry's ability to dominate inside gives the Colts what they need.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers — Max Unger, C/OT, Oregon
The Steelers have to get stronger on the offensive and defensive line. But it's obvious that upgrading the O-line is a bigger need, and although it's a reach, drafting Unger adds versatility.

31. New York Giants — Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
The Giants managed to get by without the injured Osi Umenyiora and retired Michael Strahan and drafting Jackson allows them to move Mathias Kiwanuka back to OLB.

32. Tennessee Titans — *Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
Having a No. 1 receiver who can stretch the field would open up more opportunities for the Titans playmakers and would make their offense much more dangerous. Harvin is the pick.


(*denotes underclassmen)

beach tribe
01-07-2009, 05:36 PM
I can't believe they get paid for this tripe. I'm real sure we won't even consider Stafford with Bradford gone.

Mecca
01-07-2009, 06:01 PM
It's funny to see all the media types so enamored with Bradford, that's what stats do.

BigVE
01-07-2009, 06:05 PM
It's funny to see all the media types so enamored with Bradford, that's what stats do.


True. But when you watch Bradford he does have a certain "it factor"....now I sound like Kiper.

milkman
01-07-2009, 06:06 PM
True. But when you watch Bradford he does have a certain "it factor"....now I sound like Kiper.

In this case "It" is a clean uniform.

Mr. Laz
01-07-2009, 06:11 PM
does Bradford have small hands?

something is weird about the way he throws the ball

BigVE
01-07-2009, 06:12 PM
In this case "It" is a clean uniform.

True. Same could be said for Sanchez at USC. I'm on the Stafford bandwagon so I could care less but I feel that Bradford has "it" alot more than, say, Josh Freeman.

OnTheWarpath58
01-07-2009, 06:14 PM
True. Same could be said for Sanchez at USC. I'm on the Stafford bandwagon so I could care less but I feel that Bradford has "it" alot more than, say, Josh Freeman.

I don't think you can even remotely say that about Sanchez.

He got hit quite a bit this year.

That's one reason why he's so highly regarded, he'll stand strong in the pocket, deliver a strike, with the defense bearing down on him.

milkman
01-07-2009, 06:19 PM
True. Same could be said for Sanchez at USC. I'm on the Stafford bandwagon so I could care less but I feel that Bradford has "it" alot more than, say, Josh Freeman.

No it can't.

Bradford rarely ever faced pressure.

One of the things that has many people impressed with Sanchez is his composure and ability to throw strikes in the face of pressure.

beach tribe
01-07-2009, 06:21 PM
No it can't.

Bradford rarely ever faced pressure.

One of the things that has many people impressed with Sanchez is his composure and ability to throw strikes in the face of pressure.

He has looked damn good doing it too, from what I've seen.

BigVE
01-07-2009, 06:26 PM
I don't think you can even remotely say that about Sanchez.

He got hit quite a bit this year.

That's one reason why he's so highly regarded, he'll stand strong in the pocket, deliver a strike, with the defense bearing down on him.

No it can't.

Bradford rarely ever faced pressure.

One of the things that has many people impressed with Sanchez is his composure and ability to throw strikes in the face of pressure.


Your both correct, I guess I was referring more to the fact that they are both surrounded by some top notch talent which makes their jobs a little bit easier compared to some others.

Gravedigger
01-07-2009, 06:26 PM
With a new GM prolly a new head coach and a dire need for a franchise QB how the hell do they come up with this crap. I think Carl and Herm wrote this mock to showcase Thigpen is what I think!

Mecca
01-07-2009, 06:28 PM
USC's offense was suppose to be the weak link this year....inexperienced very young line, inexperienced WR's...this was a team that was suppose to be carried by it's D and RB's I think people don't remember that now that it's after the season.

bowener
01-07-2009, 06:35 PM
True. But when you watch Bradford he does have a certain "it factor"....now I sound like Kiper.

It= An NFL size OL (if not bigger) and supporting cast of future 1-3rd talent.

Valiant
01-07-2009, 07:00 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9032992/2009-NFL-Draft:-First-round-mock

Just like last year's offseason spectacle, the 2009 NFL Draft is dependent on the underclassmen who decide to forego their collegiate careers and pursue the ultimate dream of playing in the National Football League.

This mock draft projects 18 seniors and 14 underclassmen being selected in the first round.


With the future of underclassmen not officially determined at this time — besides Illinois CB Vontae Davis, who already declared — it's impossible to include every draft-eligible prospect.

Some notable underclassmen that were left out of the projections were: Florida QB Tim Tebow, USC QB Mark Sanchez, Arizona OT Eben Britton, TCU DE Jerry Hughes, Oklahoma DT Gerald McCoy, Pittsburgh RB LeSean McCoy, South Florida DE George Selvie, Ole Miss DE Greg Hardy and Auburn DT Sen'Derrick Marks.


With that said, the intrigue builds as to who the Detroit Lions will select with the first pick in the 2009 draft. The Lions are on the clock ...

1. Detroit Lions — *Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
The Lions are a team that has to rebuild with a new regime, and they will decide between an offensive tackle and a quarterback. It's a tough choice, but they select Bradford.

2. St. Louis Rams — Michael Oher, OT, Mississippi
The Rams could use an upgrade in their secondary, but with two of the premier offensive tackles on the board, it comes down to Oher or Smith. The pick is Oher.
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3. Kansas City Chiefs — *Andre Smith, OT, Alabama
With Bradford off the board and not wanting to reach for a defender, this is a classic trade down point for the Chiefs. Either way, Smith comes off the board.

4. Seattle Seahawks — *Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
With Matt Hasselbeck getting older and becoming more fragile, it's apparent that Seneca Wallace isn't the answer at quarterback. Stafford is the future in Seattle.

5. Cleveland Browns — Malcolm Jenkins, CB, Ohio State
Statistically speaking, the Browns are not that bad at creating INTs and against the pass, but they need a front line CB who is a game changer. Jenkins is the answer.

6. Cincinnati Bengals — *Michael Crabtree, WR, Texas Tech
There is a chance that Chad Johnson and T.J. Houshmandzadeh are not in Cincinnati next year and with Crabtree being the best available, he's the pick.

7. Oakland Raiders — Eugene Monroe, OT, Virginia
Disappointed that Crabtree is off the board, the Raiders could turn their attention to Jeremy Maclin. But protecting JaMarcus Russell is a must, and Monroe is a great fit.

8. Jacksonville Jaguars — *Jeremy Maclin, WR, Missouri
The Jaguars need a playmaker at wide receiver, and it's possible they could look at another position. But Maclin's dynamic skills are hard to pass up.

9. Green Bay Packers — *Everette Brown, DE, Florida State
The Packers were a disappointment, and they have to improve their pass rush. The selection of Brown provides Green Bay with a relentless defender with huge potential.

10. San Francisco 49ers — Rey Maualuga, LB, USC The Niners could upgrade at many positions, including quarterback, but with Mike Singletary being the head coach and defense coming first, it will be hard to pass up Maualuga.

11. Buffalo Bills — Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
The Bills have the makings of a promising defense with some great athletes, but they lack playmakers. Orakpo gives Buffalo the much-needed pass rush they desire.

12. Denver Broncos — Aaron Curry, OLB, Wake Forest
The Broncos will look to upgrade their defense with this selection, and it will come down to Taylor Mays or Curry. Curry's steady play wins out and he becomes an instant impact player.

13. Washington Redskins — Jason Smith, OT, Baylor
Now that Brown and Orakpo are off the board, the Redskins won't reach for Michael Johnson. With that said, they turn their attention to the O-line and select Smith.

14. New Orleans Saints — *Vontae Davis, CB, Illinois
The Saints could use a player like Aaron Curry, but with him off the board, they will turn their attention to the secondary. Adding Davis to a woeful unit should bolster their pass defense.

15. Houston Texans — *Taylor Mays, FS, USC
The need for a playmaking defensive back is obvious, and the Texans are in a great position to get the draft's most complete safety. Mays is a starter from day one in Houston.

16. San Diego Chargers — *Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
The Chargers may look at drafting a linebacker, but Maualuga and Curry fit better than James Laurinaitis. So, getting younger at DT is the alternative and San Diego welcomes "Mount" Cody.

17. New York Jets — *Knowshon Moreno, RB, Georgia
The Jets received a great season from Thomas Jones, but with him now 30 years old, the clock is ticking. Adding Moreno gives the Jets an impact player who adds relief for the future.

18. Chicago Bears — Michael Johnson, DE, Georgia Tech
Teams in the NFL know what it takes to win: a franchise quarterback, a good running game and a defense that supplies pressure. The Bears now have two of the three with Johnson.

19. Tampa Bay Buccaneers — *Chris Wells, RB, Ohio State
The Buccaneers could use an upgrade at WR and OT, but with Wells still on the board and the uncertain future of Cadillac Williams, the Bucs protect themselves with this pick.

20. Detroit Lions (from Dallas) — James Laurinaitis, MLB, Ohio State Drafting Bradford instead of an OT with their first pick was a gamble, because the top three OTs are now off the board. So, the Lions look to improve their defense with the selection of Laurinaitis.

21. Arizona Cardinals — Brian Cushing, OLB, USC
A young, rising defense with a lot of talent, the Cardinals continue to add athletes who can make a difference. With Karlos Dansby being a free agent, Cushing is the selection.

22. Philadelphia Eagles — *Jermaine Gresham, TE, Oklahoma
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It's obvious that L.J. Smith is done in Philly, and adding a tight end who can block and catch is a must. Gresham is tremendously talented and adds a lot on offense.

23. Minnesota Vikings — Alphonso Smith, CB, Wake Forest
The Vikings can go in a lot of directions with this pick. Upgrading at QB, WR and OT are possibilities, but with a playmaking CB on the board, Smith is the best value.

24. New England Patriots — William Moore, FS, Missouri
The Patriots secondary is a big concern moving forward, especially with the uncertain future of Rodney Harrison. Moore's playmaking ability and hard-knocks style fit nicely in New England.

25. Atlanta Falcons — Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma
The surprising Falcons have rallied behind QB Matt Ryan and RB Michael Turner. To keep things rolling for a while they have to improve upfront; hello Mr. Robinson.

26. Miami Dolphins — B.J. Raji, DT, Boston College
The Dolphins will most likely use this pick to upgrade their defense. With the top linebackers being off the board, Miami turns to Raji to bolster their D-Line.

27. Baltimore Ravens — *Darrius Heyward-Bey, WR, Maryland
The Ravens are a defensive team that continues to bring in athletes who attack, but with Flacco as the QB of the future, they give him a weapon in local product Heyward-Bey.

28. Philadelphia Eagles (from Carolina) — Phil Loadholt, OT, Oklahoma
The Eagles got their tight end in Gresham with their first pick and will add an OT with this selection. With the top guys off the board, the Eagles reach for Gresham's teammate, Phil Loadholt.

29. Indianapolis Colts — Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss
The Colts need more production upfront and have gotten good work from unforeseen sources. Jerry's ability to dominate inside gives the Colts what they need.

30. Pittsburgh Steelers — Max Unger, C/OT, Oregon
The Steelers have to get stronger on the offensive and defensive line. But it's obvious that upgrading the O-line is a bigger need, and although it's a reach, drafting Unger adds versatility.

31. New York Giants — Tyson Jackson, DE, LSU
The Giants managed to get by without the injured Osi Umenyiora and retired Michael Strahan and drafting Jackson allows them to move Mathias Kiwanuka back to OLB.

32. Tennessee Titans — *Percy Harvin, WR, Florida
Having a No. 1 receiver who can stretch the field would open up more opportunities for the Titans playmakers and would make their offense much more dangerous. Harvin is the pick.


(*denotes underclassmen)

IF, big IF Cinci keeps both Chad and Howsyourmamma and added Crabtree, they would be prime to switch over to the spread.. Get some better protection for Carson and that offense would be a headache with those three running loose..

LiL stumppy
01-07-2009, 08:23 PM
It's funny to see all the media types so enamored with Bradford, that's what stats do.

That's what skill does too. It hurts you too much to see a big 12 QB being projected above a USC player doesn't it?

Mecca
01-07-2009, 09:43 PM
That's what skill does too. It hurts you too much to see a big 12 QB being projected above a USC player doesn't it?

Nah it hurts me more to see someone get enamored with stats over what actually projects to the next level, but hey Oklahoma runs a pro style offense right?

Mark M
01-07-2009, 10:13 PM
Yes ... because tons of teams fill their need at right tackle with the 3rd overall pick.

Sweet fuck ... at this point, a clinically-retarded one-armed monkey with polio could come up with a better mock than this (and most of the others I've seen to date).

MM
~~:shake:

melbar
01-08-2009, 12:10 AM
Smith is rated higher than Jake Long AND Joe Thomas...certainly not a RT...supposed to be the most talented LT in years.

Von Dumbass
01-08-2009, 03:31 AM
16. San Diego Chargers — *Terrence Cody, DT, Alabama
The Chargers may look at drafting a linebacker, but Maualuga and Curry fit better than James Laurinaitis. So, getting younger at DT is the alternative and San Diego welcomes "Mount" Cody.



Why would the Chargers have a pick that high? They are one of the final 8

Fritz88
01-08-2009, 04:10 AM
I seriously doubt if this guy watched a single KC game this year, what a dumb douche.

BigCatDaddy
01-08-2009, 11:39 AM
If it was all about stats then Harrell and McCoy would have been projected as top 10 picks as well. Like or not the kid has the head and arm to play the game.

BigChiefFan
01-08-2009, 12:13 PM
If it was all about stats then Harrell and McCoy would have been projected as top 10 picks as well. Like or not the kid has the head and arm to play the game.Yep.

BigCatDaddy
01-08-2009, 12:26 PM
Yep.

I'll respect the opinions of the people doing this for a living, all of which rate Bradford a top 5 pick, over some guy taking orders in his cube for Might Puddy.

Mecca
01-08-2009, 01:30 PM
If Colt McCoy had said he was coming out he'd be getting a bunch of high projects too so don't even go there...

BigCatDaddy
01-08-2009, 03:23 PM
If Colt McCoy had said he was coming out he'd be getting a bunch of high projects too so don't even go there...


Mocks and rankings have been having Bradford and Stafford at the top long before they declared, while McCoy is nowhere to be found.

Teams are't as stupid as you would like to think they are, or Colt Brennan would have been the #3 Pick last year and Matt Ryan would be a 6th rounder if they were so blinded by stats.

Brock
01-08-2009, 03:26 PM
I don't agree that Bradford is being vastly overvalued in this mock, but to think the Chiefs are going to draft a tackle over a QB is blatantly stupid.

Mecca
01-08-2009, 06:00 PM
Mocks and rankings have been having Bradford and Stafford at the top long before they declared, while McCoy is nowhere to be found.

Teams are't as stupid as you would like to think they are, or Colt Brennan would have been the #3 Pick last year and Matt Ryan would be a 6th rounder if they were so blinded by stats.

Tell me Ryans stats from last year this comment sure makes it sound like you aren't aware of them.

And once again Brennan was very skinny, doesn't have a great arm and was from a small school....with his funky throwing motion and gimmicked up offense..

Chief Roundup
01-08-2009, 06:27 PM
Whoever came up with this don't know the draft very well.
The only position on the O-Line worth that high of a pick is LT. We drafted that last year. There is no way we invest the #3 overall on a RT that can be had later in the draft. IMO we either draft a QB or trade down. It is very difficult to trade out of or to a top 5 pick. It is just to cost prohibitive.

Ebolapox
01-08-2009, 06:41 PM
Why would the Chargers have a pick that high? They are one of the final 8

PLUS, mt. cody said he's not coming out this year last time I heard.

KChiefs1
01-08-2009, 08:50 PM
Every expert has Bradford either the #1 or #2 QB in this draft.

melbar
01-08-2009, 08:57 PM
Whoever came up with this don't know the draft very well.
The only position on the O-Line worth that high of a pick is LT. We drafted that last year. There is no way we invest the #3 overall on a RT that can be had later in the draft. IMO we either draft a QB or trade down. It is very difficult to trade out of or to a top 5 pick. It is just to cost prohibitive.

Albert moved to LT and is solid there, but has always been considered a pro-bowl RT or RG. The thinking here is that we upgrade 2 positions on the line with one pick. Instead of 1 Pro-bowl calibre O lineman, with 1 pick we have 3.

Thats the reasoning I've seen when Smith goes to us. We could do much worse...

KChiefs1
01-08-2009, 09:06 PM
Albert moved to LT and is solid there, but has always been considered a pro-bowl RT or RG. The thinking here is that we upgrade 2 positions on the line with one pick. Instead of 1 Pro-bowl calibre O lineman, with 1 pick we have 3.

Thats the reasoning I've seen when Smith goes to us. We could do much worse...

Exactly...then you have 3 pro bowl quality starters on the OL.
Draft C Alex Mack in the 2nd round & your OL is basically complete.

milkman
01-09-2009, 11:06 PM
Albert moved to LT and is solid there, but has always been considered a pro-bowl RT or RG. The thinking here is that we upgrade 2 positions on the line with one pick. Instead of 1 Pro-bowl calibre O lineman, with 1 pick we have 3.

Thats the reasoning I've seen when Smith goes to us. We could do much worse...

Perhaps, but the fact is, Albert has the size and athleticism to be better at LT than any of the LTs in this draft and the last one.

He has Willie Roaf potential.

HemiEd
01-09-2009, 11:18 PM
If it was all about stats then Harrell and McCoy would have been projected as top 10 picks as well. Like or not the kid has the head and arm to play the game.

I would love to have McCoy on this team, anyone think he will be there second round?

HemiEd
01-09-2009, 11:21 PM
Albert moved to LT and is solid there, but has always been considered a pro-bowl RT or RG. The thinking here is that we upgrade 2 positions on the line with one pick. Instead of 1 Pro-bowl calibre O lineman, with 1 pick we have 3.

Thats the reasoning I've seen when Smith goes to us. We could do much worse...

I agree, that would be a pretty nice move, better than reaching for a less than 90% QB IMO.

HemiEd
01-09-2009, 11:24 PM
Perhaps, but the fact is, Albert has the size and athleticism to be better at LT than any of the LTs in this draft and the last one.

He has Willie Roaf potential.

That is pretty exciting to know , so far he has exceeded my expectations. You called him early, last offseason.

Ebolapox
01-10-2009, 01:48 AM
I would love to have McCoy on this team, anyone think he will be there second round?

I don't think he'll be there at the first overall pick.




































psst... colt mccoy is going back for his senior year.

Der Flφprer
01-10-2009, 01:51 AM
Perhaps, but the fact is, Albert has the size and athleticism to be better at LT than any of the LTs in this draft and the last one.

He has Willie Roaf potential.

You were THE MAN on this one pops. No one called this one before you did.

melbar
01-10-2009, 03:15 AM
Perhaps, but the fact is, Albert has the size and athleticism to be better at LT than any of the LTs in this draft and the last one.

He has Willie Roaf potential.


Could well be, but Smith is being called by some the best LT prospect since Orlando Pace. Large Athletic guys are always nice to have. Could do worse anyway...

KChiefs1
01-10-2009, 10:26 AM
Could well be, but Smith is being called by some the best LT prospect since Orlando Pace. Large Athletic guys are always nice to have. Could do worse anyway...

Instead of drafting a QB we don't want...I'd rather trade down to get Taylor Mays and some extra picks or someone along those lines, but if we can't find a trading partner I'd be ok with Michael Oher or Andre Smith with the 3rd pick.

Brock
01-10-2009, 10:28 AM
Yeah, because Branden Albert really needs to be replaced. Jesus.

milkman
01-10-2009, 10:32 AM
Yeah, because Branden Albert really needs to be replaced. Jesus.

We can't fix the O-Line unless we spend the next four first round picks or all our FA money on LTs.

Chiefnj2
01-10-2009, 10:39 AM
It's a tough draft for the Chiefs if Stafford is off the board. The top prospects left are OT's and Curry.

Tribal Warfare
01-10-2009, 10:42 AM
Could well be, but Smith is being called by some the best LT prospect since Orlando Pace. Large Athletic guys are always nice to have. Could do worse anyway...

Actually Michael Oher has been graded out from highschool as the highest rated OT since Pace

melbar
01-10-2009, 10:48 AM
Yeah, because Branden Albert really needs to be replaced. Jesus.

Nobody is talking about replacing him or even saying he's doing a bad job. He's doing great job. He's also still learning a new position. If he can slide back to the position he's already spent years at as a dominating player because a once in ten year player who's already got years of experience at that position why not? Your not replacing Albert, your adding another talented lineman beside him and making him and the line better.

Brock
01-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Nobody is talking about replacing him or even saying he's doing a bad job. He's doing great job. He's also still learning a new position. If he can slide back to the position he's already spent years at as a dominating player because a once in ten year player who's already got years of experience at that position why not? Your not replacing Albert, your adding another talented lineman beside him and making him and the line better.

You are talking about replacing him, if you're talking about moving him from left tackle. There's no need to do it, it's stupid. You can draft guards later on.