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Bambi
01-12-2009, 01:14 PM
Says Mike Francesa on WFAN. Sorry if this is being talked about in the Pioli thread but it's happenin.

CupidStunt
01-12-2009, 01:16 PM
STFU

doomy3
01-12-2009, 01:16 PM
Says Mike Francesa on WFAN. Sorry if this is being talked about in the Pioli thread but it's happenin.


what?? Herm hasn't even been fired yet

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 01:17 PM
Post it also in the Pioli thread, or you'll get a lot of grief.

the Talking Can
01-12-2009, 01:17 PM
good grief

Jenson71
01-12-2009, 01:17 PM
yip yip

Pestilence
01-12-2009, 01:18 PM
So we hired a coach without having a GM......and we still have a Head Coach under contract.


Yep....you're dumb.

cdcox
01-12-2009, 01:19 PM
buh-bye.

eazyb81
01-12-2009, 01:20 PM
Why are people giving him shit? He's just reporting what he's heard.

Vegas_Dave
01-12-2009, 01:20 PM
The original poster is likely Mike Francesa just trying to improve his internet ratings. I know I just tuned in...

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:21 PM
So we hired a coach without having a GM......and we still have a Head Coach under contract.


Yep....you're dumb.
hey he wasn't saying it just that WFAN was saying it. They are the clueless not the poster.

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:22 PM
buh-bye.
Only if he's making it up. And ist clearly labled rumor.

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 01:22 PM
Why are people giving him shit?

Yeah, it belonged in the Pioli thread, but it's no big deal.

We're all about the rumors on here, but should have been posted as

"Pioli to take job in KC and hire Ferentz as HC" in the other thread

DaneMcCloud
01-12-2009, 01:23 PM
hey he wasn't saying it just that WFAN was saying it. They are the clueless not the poster.

What if WFAN is correct?

:hmmm:

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:24 PM
What if WFAN is correct?

:hmmm:
Then its defintely Pioli as GM and some people owe Wicked an apology

Mr. Laz
01-12-2009, 01:24 PM
Why are people giving him shit? He's just reporting what he's heard.

agreed .... this isn't nuthooks

part of me thinks this is just the rumor that was going all along about Pioli taking Ferentz with him wherever he goes but still.


ease up, it's just a post

Donger
01-12-2009, 01:25 PM
Isn't Herm still HC? If this rumor is correct, it seems reasonable to presume that an announcement of his demise is imminent.

Carlota69
01-12-2009, 01:27 PM
Isn't Herm still HC? If this rumor is correct, it seems reasonable to presume that an announcement of his demise is imminent.

Herm was just on Sportscenter getting interviewed about Dungy retiring. Don't think he would of done that had he been canned already.

Fat Elvis
01-12-2009, 01:27 PM
He says in the title it is a rumor, and he also says who he heard the rumor from...don't shoot the messenger.

Demonpenz
01-12-2009, 01:27 PM
:clap: that will be the end of herm if this is true

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:27 PM
agreed .... this is nuthooks

part of me thinks this is just the rumor that was going all along about Pioli taking Ferentz with him wherever he goes but still.


ease up, it's just a post
I pos repped the guy and took him down 4 red thingys toward green.

Donger
01-12-2009, 01:28 PM
He says in the title it is a rumor, and he also says who he heard the rumor from...don't shoot the messenger.

The rumor part was added.

Chiefnj2
01-12-2009, 01:29 PM
The anal retentive police are out in full force.

raybec 4
01-12-2009, 01:30 PM
Herm was just on Sportscenter getting interviewed about Dungy retiring. Don't think he would of done that had he been canned already.

I would love to see Herm doing interviews in Corrs light commercials with Brian Billick

Chiefnj2
01-12-2009, 01:30 PM
Francessa just said "Pioli is going to name Ferentz as head coach in KC if he takes the job as GM."

Sounded like inside speculation.

SNR
01-12-2009, 01:30 PM
Is this like a situation in the middle ages where one pope would do something the bishops hated, so then a new pope would be acknowledged while the current pope is still alive and hasn't been excommunicated yet?

Is Herm Edwards the coach or the anti-coach?

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:30 PM
The anal retentive police are out in full force.
He's back in the green now.

BTW, welcome to the board Wickedson

Vegas_Dave
01-12-2009, 01:30 PM
He just said "Ferentz is the head coach in KC IF Pioli takes the job"

Rooster
01-12-2009, 01:31 PM
The anal retentive police are out in full force.

No kidding. :shake:

SNR
01-12-2009, 01:32 PM
That doesn't even make sense. I thought Ferentz was ruled out as a coach because he wanted to stick around at Iowa?

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 01:33 PM
That doesn't even make sense. I thought Ferentz was ruled out as a coach because he wanted to stick around at Iowa?

Internet speculation had him being "ruled out". That's it.

Bambi
01-12-2009, 01:33 PM
OK, SORRY.

Francesa said about 20 mins ago that it is seeming very likely that Pioli will become Chiefs GM being that he is looking to go to a "good" organization with a strong ownership "Hunt Family".

If Pioli becomes GM it's nearly automatic that Ferentz is coming as part of the deal.

Herm seems to have an assistant job with the Colts if this happens.

Ari Chi3fs
01-12-2009, 01:34 PM
Sweet KC has 2 head coaches!! we are gonna be EXTRA awesome next year!

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 01:36 PM
Sweet KC has 2 head coaches!! we are gonna be EXTRA awesome next year!

but soon they'll be addition by subtraction...

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:36 PM
Sweet KC has 2 head coaches!! we are gonna be EXTRA awesome next year!
Hey, most NFL teams carry 2 good QB's why not coaches? just sayin

DaneMcCloud
01-12-2009, 01:38 PM
I would love to see Herm doing interviews in Corrs light commercials with Brian Billick

Herm's a thinker, not a drinker.

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 01:39 PM
OK, SORRY.

Francesa said about 20 mins ago that it is eeming very likely that Pioli will become Chiefs GM being that he is looking to go to a "good" organization with a strong ownership "Hunt Family".

If Pioli becomes GM it's nearly automatic that Ferentz is coming as part of the deal.

Herm seems to have an assistant job with the Colts if this happens.

This actually could explain the hold-up. Suppose Pioli is set on Ferentz and wants to make sure he'll join him in KC before he leaves NE.

cdcox
01-12-2009, 01:39 PM
The title said: Kirk Ferentz is new HC

no conditionals were given, so it sounded like the announcement of a done deal, not a rumor or speculation.

It would be highly unlikely for Clark to announce his HC position before GM, given everything else that he has said.

Second, I doubt Ferentz would come to KC even if Pioli is hired. He's immediately turned down every other NFL position offered. Said he wants to stay in Iowa until his kid finishes High school or college or whatever.

Stinger
01-12-2009, 01:40 PM
I wonder if Gunther told Herm to stay away from the internet for the next few weeks.

Bambi
01-12-2009, 01:42 PM
I wonder if Gunther told Herm to stay away from the internet for the next few weeks.

hahaha

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 01:42 PM
I wonder if Gunther told Herm to stay away from the internet for the next few weeks.
nice.:clap:

Stinger
01-12-2009, 01:42 PM
Herm's a thinker, not a drinker.

No ... but when Herm does start to think many here start to drink

cdcox
01-12-2009, 01:43 PM
Frentz's son is a freshman OL on the Hawkeyes. I really doubt there is any way to get him to leave Iowa this year.

Donger
01-12-2009, 01:44 PM
The title said: Kirk Ferentz is new HC

no conditionals were given, so it sounded like the announcement of a done deal, not a rumor or speculation.

It would be highly unlikely for Clark to announce his HC position before GM, given everything else that he has said.

Second, I doubt Ferentz would come to KC even if Pioli is hired. He's immediately turned down every other NFL position offered. Said he wants to stay in Iowa until his kid finishes High school or college or whatever.

I can understand that, but Iowa isn't very far from KC. Maybe the distance would be less of a factor than, say, Denver.

eazyb81
01-12-2009, 01:45 PM
Frentz's son is a freshman OL on the Hawkeyes. I really doubt there is any way to get him to leave Iowa this year.

Why? I don't see any reason why he has to coach his son's college football team.'

I think the bigger issue would be the son that is in high school, and since KC is so close to Iowa City, maybe his family would stay in Iowa until the younger one graduates.

Pestilence
01-12-2009, 01:45 PM
Why? I don't see any reason why he has to coach his son's college football team.

Because he stayed at Iowa last time to coach his older son.

Bambi
01-12-2009, 01:46 PM
Why? I don't see any reason why he has to coach his son's college football team.'

I think the bigger issue would be the son that is in high school, and since KC is so close to Iowa City, maybe his family would stay in Iowa until the younger one graduates.

"IT'S DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL!!! IT'S THE BIG 12!!!"

shakesthecat
01-12-2009, 01:47 PM
IIRC, Ferentz interviewed for the Jacksonville job in 2003 and his son Brian was playing for Iowa at the time.

eazyb81
01-12-2009, 01:48 PM
Because he stayed at Iowa last time to coach his older son.

Last time? Maybe that was the excuse he gave because he didn't like that current opportunity, or maybe he likes the midwest. Maybe KC would be the perfect situation for him, as it won't be a drastic change for his family.

I just have a hard time seeing his son at Iowa as a dealbreaker if he really wants to coach in the NFL with his friend Pioli as GM.

OnTheWarpath58
01-12-2009, 01:48 PM
http://ncaabbs.com/images/smilies/03-yawn.gif

Wake me when something actually HAPPENS.

cdcox
01-12-2009, 01:48 PM
I can understand that, but Iowa isn't very far from KC. Maybe the distance would be less of a factor than, say, Denver.

Successful head football coaches work 80 to 100 hours a week during the season. He'd miss his son's whole college career.

kstater
01-12-2009, 01:49 PM
"IT'S DIVISION 1 FOOTBALL!!! IT'S THE BIG 12!!!"

Uhh, Iowa plays in the Big 10.

arrowheadnation
01-12-2009, 01:50 PM
Wow...man did this reach 4 pages fast. Whole lotta work getting done today eh?

Chiefs Pantalones
01-12-2009, 01:50 PM
OK, SORRY.

Francesa said about 20 mins ago that it is eeming very likely that Pioli will become Chiefs GM being that he is looking to go to a "good" organization with a strong ownership "Hunt Family".

If Pioli becomes GM it's nearly automatic that Ferentz is coming as part of the deal.

Herm seems to have an assistant job with the Colts if this happens.

lol cute.

Although I could see Ferentz coming to coach here, because after all it's close to KC.

Mr. Laz
01-12-2009, 01:51 PM
I pos repped the guy and took him down 4 red thingys toward green.
boom ...... 12 green :D

cdcox
01-12-2009, 01:51 PM
From wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirk_Ferentz


Pro football opportunities

Many major college and NFL teams have considered Ferentz as a candidate for their head coaching jobs. However, Ferentz has publicly declined any interest in other coaching positions, opting to stay at Iowa. On November 23, 2004, Ferentz and Iowa athletics director Bob Bowlsby agreed to a new contract extension that keeps Ferentz at Iowa until 2012.[1]
On January 2, 2006 the head coaches of five NFL teams, Green Bay, St. Louis, Houston, New Orleans, and Minnesota, were fired. There was renewed speculation that Ferentz would be offered a head coaching job with one of those professional franchises. But such speculation was soon put to rest when Ferentz stated that he was still happy with his job at Iowa, and that he had no plans to leave.[2]
On June 2, 2006, Ferentz became the highest paid coach in the Big Ten and third highest in college football when he was given a restructured contract that boosted his annual salary to $2.7 million.[3]
Following the 2006 NFL season, rumors circulated that Ferentz may have been in consideration for the Pittsburgh Steelers' head coaching job after Bill Cowher stepped down. However, before Cowher's departure, Ferentz was asked about his possible interest in the position, and stated: “I know that staff pretty well and they’ve got some good guys in that building. My guess is that's where they would go. But I’m not interested, and I doubt they are, either. I’ve got a great job right here.”[citation needed] The Steelers job eventually went to Mike Tomlin.
In 2008, Ferentz was again rumored to be a candidate for an NFL head coaching job, particularly as successor to Romeo Crennel for the Cleveland Browns.[4]


Plus he earns $3.2 million a year for a job much less strenuous than an NFL gig.

Lzen
01-12-2009, 01:52 PM
I can understand that, but Iowa isn't very far from KC. Maybe the distance would be less of a factor than, say, Denver.

That is a very good point. I wouldn't mind Ferentz. Seems like a decent coach that does a pretty good job considering that he doesn't get top talent.

Thig Lyfe
01-12-2009, 01:52 PM
OKAY GANG,

eazyb81
01-12-2009, 01:52 PM
boom ...... 12 green :D

"With great power, comes great responsibility."

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 01:53 PM
Pioli and Ferentz are supposedly quite good friends. It's one thing to leave for the NFL; it's another when a good buddy takes over a franchise and offers/pleads...

Donger
01-12-2009, 01:56 PM
What do the Chiefs pay Edwards to allegedly be the head coach?

Chiefnj2
01-12-2009, 01:56 PM
Francessa is just speculating based on who is friends with who. He guessed a bunch of Browns stuff weeks ago and was wrong.

Bambi
01-12-2009, 01:59 PM
Uhh, Iowa plays in the Big 10.

It's a Dan Hawkins quote, it was in reference to he coaching his son at Colorado.

HolmeZz
01-12-2009, 02:04 PM
This guy's an idiot.

Francesa said it looks like Pioli's headed to Kansas City and Scott's going to want Ferentz once Herm gets the boot. He's going on the same gossip we've been going on for a while now.

bluehawkdoc
01-12-2009, 02:13 PM
But, but....

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 02:14 PM
But, but....

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.
:shake: If its not photo shopped into something this is old hat and not funny.

Donger
01-12-2009, 02:16 PM
But, but....

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

Thanks for the semi.

arrowheadnation
01-12-2009, 02:20 PM
But, but....

Okay gang, as many of you know I still have friends at the highest level in the Chiefs organization and have this info to share with full confidence: Scott Pioli is the new GM. His announcement will come Thursday or Friday at the latest. Clark and Scott are working out the finer points of his contract tonight (money & control), but the deal is sealed. Also, Clark informed Herm Edwards and his coaching staff that they will be released. All assistants can reapply through Scott.

I only share this information because I'm no longer with the team and it's fun to share that a new day is dawning at Arrowhead. Scott Pioli will quickly move to clean out the front office and hire a new coach.

The only info I have on the new coach is it will not be Kirk Ferentz from the Iowa Hawkeyes. Kirk coaches his son at Iowa and does not want to leave until his son graduates.

Mike Shanahan has contacted Pioli, but I don't know any info beyond that.

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bluehawkdoc
01-12-2009, 02:21 PM
:shake: If its not photo shopped into something this is old hat and not funny.


Darn, I live for your approval. PBJ

BigRedChief
01-12-2009, 02:23 PM
Darn, I live for your approval. PBJ
And don't forget it pal.:)

DenverDanChiefsFan
01-12-2009, 02:29 PM
Herm was just on Sportscenter getting interviewed about Dungy retiring. Don't think he would of done that had he been canned already.Herm will read about it on the internet.

Carlota69
01-12-2009, 02:30 PM
Herm will read about it on the internet.

yeah, with our history...

Christofire
01-12-2009, 02:31 PM
I wonder if a guy with Pioli's pro experience would really want to start off his Chiefs career with a college coach. A college coach would have a learning curve adjusting to the demands/responsibilities of the pro game, whereas a guy already acclimated to the pro game could make for a quicker offseason transition.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-12-2009, 02:43 PM
As a college football dummy I know nothing about Ferentz. Is he someone we would want? I know Iowa is a big program but I don't recall them being a title contender.... ever.... maybe they have been. Would he make a good HC in the NFL in your humble opinions?

MGRS13
01-12-2009, 02:47 PM
As a college football dummy I know nothing about Ferentz. Is he someone we would want? I know Iowa is a big program but I don't recall them being a title contender.... ever.... maybe they have been. Would he make a good HC in the NFL in your humble opinions?

His past 5 years or so have been average at best and thats in the big 10, which means in a real conference he wouldn't be in contention for a bowl game. Also he is coaching his son and most believe he wouldn't want to leave until his son graduated.

Thig Lyfe
01-12-2009, 02:47 PM
Herm will read about it on the internet.

Herm doesn't know what that is.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-12-2009, 02:49 PM
His past 5 years or so have been average at best and thats in the big 10, which means in a real conference he wouldn't be in contention for a bowl game. Also he is coaching his son and most believe he wouldn't want to leave until his son graduated.

So Pioli's assummed hard on for him is odd? Is that what I'm getting?

MGRS13
01-12-2009, 02:51 PM
So Pioli's assummed hard on for him is odd? Is that what I'm getting?He was on the browns staff(offense line coach, I think) with belichek(spell?) so their is a history with those guys.

Guru
01-12-2009, 02:54 PM
bullshit

kstater
01-12-2009, 02:56 PM
Don't you have to fire the coach and hire a GM first?

unothadeal
01-12-2009, 02:57 PM
Herm will read about it on the internet.

Herm doesn't watch the internet.

bluehawkdoc
01-12-2009, 03:10 PM
Don't you have to fire the coach and hire a GM first?

Hey, we are the Chiefs. Don't put us in a box like that.WooWoo

Lex Luthor
01-12-2009, 03:12 PM
Herm's got to be getting pretty flustrated about now.

ChiefsCountry
01-12-2009, 03:13 PM
Ferentz would be my second choice behind Schwartz. He has done a good job at Iowa, its not exactly the easiest place to win in the world. He does have some pro experience. Could be a Jimmy Johnson type deal if some of the pieces work oUT.

DaKCMan AP
01-12-2009, 03:31 PM
I wonder if a guy with Pioli's pro experience would really want to start off his Chiefs career with a college coach. A college coach would have a learning curve adjusting to the demands/responsibilities of the pro game, whereas a guy already acclimated to the pro game could make for a quicker offseason transition.

Ferentz coached in the NFL prior to becoming HC of Iowa.

OnTheWarpath58
01-12-2009, 03:34 PM
Ferentz coached in the NFL prior to becoming HC of Iowa.

He's never been anything more than an OL coach in the NFL.

After just going through the nightmare of having a coach with no coordinator experience, I can see why people might be spooked.

There isn't exactly a long list of guys that came from the college ranks and were successful HC's in the NFL, either.

Chiefnj2
01-12-2009, 03:35 PM
Ferentz would be my second choice behind Schwartz. He has done a good job at Iowa, its not exactly the easiest place to win in the world. He does have some pro experience. Could be a Jimmy Johnson type deal if some of the pieces work oUT.

Schwartz is already on his way back to Detroit for his 2nd interview.

penguinz
01-12-2009, 03:37 PM
He's never been anything more than an OL coach in the NFL.

After just going through the nightmare of having a coach with no coordinator experience, I can see why people might be spooked.
That worked out bad for Philly also.

CaliforniaChief
01-12-2009, 03:38 PM
There's no way this is true. Forget the fact that you'd hire the GM first and then the HC (once you've actually fired the current coach.)

The NFL also has the famous "Rooney rule" which stipulates that a franchise must interview at least one minority through it's process. This is clearly a rumor borne on the Pioli/Ferentz package which we don't even know is true. After all, remember the reports about Pioli's alleged demands of total control? Evidently that's not true, either.

None of this could happen without media awareness unless Clark Hunt doubles as Jack Bauer and meets these people in other countries' torture cells.

I would be curious about any of these guys as HC:
Shanahan, Frazier, Spagnuolo, Ferentz, Schwartz, or Jon Gruden (but I guess he won't be available.)

I'd also like to see Rich Gannon hired as a QB coach to tutor Thigpen.

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-12-2009, 03:41 PM
He was on the browns staff(offense line coach, I think) with belichek(spell?) so their is a history with those guys.

Oh yay I'm sold.

MGRS13
01-12-2009, 03:42 PM
There's no way this is true. Forget the fact that you'd hire the GM first and then the HC (once you've actually fired the current coach.)

The NFL also has the famous "Rooney rule" which stipulates that a franchise must interview at least one minority through it's process. This is clearly a rumor borne on the Pioli/Ferentz package which we don't even know is true. After all, remember the reports about Pioli's alleged demands of total control? Evidently that's not true, either.

None of this could happen without media awareness unless Clark Hunt doubles as Jack Bauer and meets these people in other countries' torture cells.

I would be curious about any of these guys as HC:
Shanahan, Frazier, Spagnuolo, Ferentz, Schwartz, or Jon Gruden (but I guess he won't be available.)

I'd also like to see Rich Gannon hired as a QB coach to tutor Thigpen. For the raiders.
Fixed your post

OnTheWarpath58
01-12-2009, 03:46 PM
That worked out bad for Philly also.

How many examples did you trip over before you found Reid?

DaneMcCloud
01-12-2009, 03:50 PM
I'd also like to see Rich Gannon hired as a QB coach to tutor Thigpen.

Two questions:

1. What makes you think there's any chance in hell that Gannon would leave his cushy broadcast job in which he makes upwards of $2 million per year for about 8 hours of work for an 80 hour work week where he'd make less than 300k per year?

2. Why Rich Gannon? JFC.

Pestilence
01-12-2009, 03:51 PM
Two questions:

1. What makes you think there's any chance in hell that Gannon would leave his cushy broadcast job in which he makes upwards of $2 million per year for about 8 hours of work for an 80 hour work week where he'd make less than 300k per year?

2. Why Rich Gannon? JFC.

These are the same people who want Trent Green to be our QB coach.

ClevelandBronco
01-12-2009, 03:52 PM
What? Stoops wouldn't make the jump?

College coach. Great idea.

DaneMcCloud
01-12-2009, 03:53 PM
These are the same people who want Trent Green to be our QB coach.

I know.

I just wanted to hear his justification.

MGRS13
01-12-2009, 03:58 PM
What? Stoops wouldn't make the jump?

College coach. Great idea.Don't get your hopes up, some people refuse to realize we haven't even signed Pioli.

Iowanian
01-12-2009, 04:08 PM
K.F. is NOT leaving Iowa.

His son is a redshirt freshman on the football team and his other son I think is a soph. in HS....he said he wasn't leaving for a long time and wasn't an option for NFL teams.

HemiEd
01-12-2009, 04:10 PM
I would love to see Herm doing interviews in Corrs light commercials with Brian Billick

That is a step in the right direction. But it would be even better if he was the HC for Raiders or another competitor.

Tiger's Fan
01-12-2009, 04:26 PM
What do the Chiefs pay Edwards to allegedly be the head coach?

3 mil per. Sick aint it?

RustShack
01-12-2009, 04:28 PM
Most coaches will deny leaving until the time comes in case the new job falls through and so they don't get fired from the current one just in case.

bowener
01-12-2009, 04:28 PM
So does this thing have legs or not?

I mean if it does that certainly means Pioli is on board for sure.

kstater
01-12-2009, 04:30 PM
So does this thing have legs or not?

I mean if it does that certainly means Pioli is on board for sure.

As much legs as the "OK gang" posts.

kstater
01-12-2009, 04:31 PM
So does this thing have legs or not?

I mean if it does that certainly means Pioli is on board for sure.

Not until WPI posts it next week.

Ultra Peanut
01-12-2009, 04:34 PM
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bluehawkdoc
01-12-2009, 04:35 PM
As much legs as the "OK gang" posts.

You bastard, that hurts.

bowener
01-12-2009, 04:35 PM
K.F. is NOT leaving Iowa.

His son is a redshirt freshman on the football team and his other son I think is a soph. in HS....he said he wasn't leaving for a long time and wasn't an option for NFL teams.

I think this is probably an accurate assessment of the situation, but with the way things currently are, I think becoming a pro head coach is the smarter, and more family friendly move to make.

I know he is probably really close to his son if he is the coach and his son loves football, but with the way that money is right now, and looking worse for a year or 2, I think it would be more responsible of Ferentz to become the Chiefs HC if he is offered the job. He will certainly get paid A LOT more, and the Chiefs are probably the best place for him to go if he leaves. He is a quick flight away from his family if they remain in Iowa at the worst. I think the pay, proximity to home, and opportunities are too good to give up right now. He could coach one year, get fired, and be unemployed for 5 years and still make more from 1 year of coaching the Chiefs than if he stayed at Iowa.

Iowanian, you are probably correct, I am just saying that I hope people aren't hard on him in Iowa if he leaves. He has a lot of future opportunities if he can show he can handle the NFL, and the money will support his family for life.

bowener
01-12-2009, 04:36 PM
Not until WPI posts it next week.

SHIT! I wont be able to read it! My IP is permanently blocked!!!11!! If only I had heard this rumor before next week!

eazyb81
01-12-2009, 04:37 PM
K.F. is NOT leaving Iowa.

His son is a redshirt freshman on the football team and his other son I think is a soph. in HS....he said he wasn't leaving for a long time and wasn't an option for NFL teams.

This is his exact quote before this year's Outback Bowl when asked about the possibility of him leaving for the NFL this offseason:

Two days away from his team's Outback Bowl appearance against South Carolina, the coach was asked to elaborate on any other interest he might expect from the NFL and had little to offer.

"Well, I've made a habit of not commenting on that and I've got a great job," Ferentz said. "I'm happy to have a great job, I'm appreciative of having a great job. I've been at Iowa for 10 years, so not much else to say on that topic."

I'm sorry, but if I had absolutely no interest in leaving for the NFL, now or ever, I would come right out and say it. He dances around it by saying he's got a great job, but hardly says there's 0% chance he's going to the NFL.

Like I said earlier, maybe he's just waiting for the perfect opportunity

OnTheWarpath58
01-12-2009, 04:42 PM
This is his exact quote before this year's Outback Bowl when asked about the possibility of him leaving for the NFL this offseason:



I'm sorry, but if I had absolutely no interest in leaving for the NFL, now or ever, I would come right out and say it. He dances around it by saying he's got a great job, but hardly says there's 0% chance he's going to the NFL.

Like I said earlier, maybe he's just waiting for the perfect opportunity

You mean like Nick Saban did?

:D

rtmike
01-12-2009, 04:42 PM
That's one way to get Pioli to jump ship, sign the coach he has a hard on for.

eazyb81
01-12-2009, 04:44 PM
You mean like Nick Saban did?

:D

Exactly, now that guy is a man of his word.

chiefbowe82
01-12-2009, 04:50 PM
woohoooo we have two head coaches and no GM!

Marco Polo
01-12-2009, 04:52 PM
He could coach one year, get fired, and be unemployed for 5 years and still make more from 1 year of coaching the Chiefs than if he stayed at Iowa.


I think for the most part you on track but this statement is clearly off. Do you realize he gets $3 million a year at Iowa? Under this statement, he'd have to get $15m a year to coach the Chiefs. He's getting paid good at Iowa.

cdcox
01-12-2009, 05:00 PM
I think for the most part you on track but this statement is clearly off. Do you realize he gets $3 million a year at Iowa? Under this statement, he'd have to get $15m a year to coach the Chiefs. He's getting paid good at Iowa.

Herm makes $3M, right?

On top of that, college HCs don't need to work nearly as hard as the pros to be successful.

bowener
01-12-2009, 05:00 PM
I think for the most part you on track but this statement is clearly off. Do you realize he gets $3 million a year at Iowa? Under this statement, he'd have to get $15m a year to coach the Chiefs. He's getting paid good at Iowa.

Ok, yes, it was an exaggeration. I also thought he was paid just over a million, so that is my bad.

Short Leash Hootie
01-12-2009, 05:02 PM
Two questions:

1. What makes you think there's any chance in hell that Gannon would leave his cushy broadcast job in which he makes upwards of $2 million per year for about 8 hours of work for an 80 hour work week where he'd make less than 300k per year?

2. Why Rich Gannon? JFC.

Are you speculating he makes around $2M per year?

I believe you...that just seems AWFUL high. Where did you hear that figure?

aturnis
01-12-2009, 05:32 PM
I think this is probably an accurate assessment of the situation, but with the way things currently are, I think becoming a pro head coach is the smarter, and more family friendly move to make.

I know he is probably really close to his son if he is the coach and his son loves football, but with the way that money is right now, and looking worse for a year or 2, I think it would be more responsible of Ferentz to become the Chiefs HC if he is offered the job. He will certainly get paid A LOT more, and the Chiefs are probably the best place for him to go if he leaves. He is a quick flight away from his family if they remain in Iowa at the worst. I think the pay, proximity to home, and opportunities are too good to give up right now. He could coach one year, get fired, and be unemployed for 5 years and still make more from 1 year of coaching the Chiefs than if he stayed at Iowa.

Iowanian, you are probably correct, I am just saying that I hope people aren't hard on him in Iowa if he leaves. He has a lot of future opportunities if he can show he can handle the NFL, and the money will support his family for life.

I dunno. Ferentz is the highest paid employee of the Iowa government.

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 05:35 PM
There are a limited number of potential coaches on Pioli's short list I'd assume. McDaniels is gone. Schwartz appears headed to Detroit. If either of those guys were #1 on the list, you'd think Pioli would have wanted an opportunity to talk to them about the job. I know Ferentz said he's staying put, but at this point, I think he has to be the favorite to be our next coach if Pioli takes the job.

Iowanian
01-12-2009, 05:42 PM
I guess I should use the crayons.

KF is the head coach of the Hawkeyes, He's said he's not leaving for an NFL Job.

Normally, that wouldn't mean too much to me, hower KF's SON, is a redshirt freshman on the Hawkeye Football team that he coaches.

Does that sink in why that would be a weighted factor?


KF isn't exactly working for peanuts, I think he's the highest paid state employee.

whoman69
01-12-2009, 06:11 PM
This is the annual Kirk Ferentz is leaving for a job that he has expressed no interest in phase.

Bugeater
01-12-2009, 06:13 PM
This is the annual Kirk Ferentz is leaving for a job that he has expressed no interest in phase.
He can thank all the previous coaches who have left for jobs that they "had expressed no interest in" for that.

Jerm
01-12-2009, 06:14 PM
He can thank all the previous coaches who have left for jobs that they "had expressed no interest in" for that.

*cough* NICK SABAN *cough*

Watching him lie about the Alabama job straight to the camera is still classic.

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 06:15 PM
He can thank all the previous coaches who have left for jobs that they "had expressed no interest in" for that.

And what coach EVER says, "Yeah, I'll leave, if someone offers me a better job." You can't say that.

KCChiefsFan88
01-12-2009, 06:15 PM
All I know about Ferentz is his ass was handed to him (and Brad Banks) by USC in the Orange Bowl.

ChiefsCountry
01-12-2009, 06:19 PM
All I know about Ferentz is his ass was handed to him (and Brad Banks) by USC in the Orange Bowl.

USC handles alot of people.

Bugeater
01-12-2009, 06:21 PM
And what coach EVER says, "Yeah, I'll leave, if someone offers me a better job." You can't say that.

Oh, I know. That's why saying he "hasn't expressed interest" doesn't really mean anything.

BWillie
01-12-2009, 06:26 PM
This is the annual Kirk Ferentz is leaving for a job that he has expressed no interest in phase.

Yeah, I've been reading hawkeyereport.com on their forums and there is absolutely no mention ANYWHERE about Kirk Ferentz going to the Chiefs. Only a little buzz about other NFL jobs.

kcfanintitanhell
01-12-2009, 06:37 PM
Oh, I know. That's why saying he "hasn't expressed interest" doesn't really mean anything.

I don't know if he would be interested. Look, here's a guy that's held in esteem comparable to the Pope, making 3.2 million a year plus incentives, and not having a GM and owner looking over his shoulder. Not to mention the 80-100 hour work week.
One can call that underachieving for not wanting to accept the challenge of taking on a head coaching job of an NFL team that just finished 2-14, but others would call his current situation a pretty sweet deal.
JMO

Bambi
01-12-2009, 06:44 PM
Does anyone know the specific Pioli-Ferentz connection that Francesa woulda been talking about then>?

FringeNC
01-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Does anyone know the specific Pioli-Ferentz connection that Francesa woulda been talking about then>?

Belichick years in Cleveland.

Chiefnj2
01-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Does anyone know the specific Pioli-Ferentz connection that Francesa woulda been talking about then>?

They were with each other in Cleveland under Belichick.

ChiefsCountry
01-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Does anyone know the specific Pioli-Ferentz connection that Francesa woulda been talking about then>?

They worked together in Cleveland/Baltimore.

Bambi
01-12-2009, 06:48 PM
Belichick years in Cleveland.

cool

BWillie
01-12-2009, 07:06 PM
All I know about Ferentz is his ass was handed to him (and Brad Banks) by USC in the Orange Bowl.

Which says alot about Ferentz. What does Brad Banks do now? Pump gas somewhere? I saw him a year ago at Vitos in Iowa City getting hammered when he was 26 years old and capitalizing on his old successes. I think that is about all he does.

88TG88
01-12-2009, 07:07 PM
USC handles alot of people.

This is true

DT58HOF
01-12-2009, 07:23 PM
The title said: Kirk Ferentz is new HC

no conditionals were given, so it sounded like the announcement of a done deal, not a rumor or speculation.

It would be highly unlikely for Clark to announce his HC position before GM, given everything else that he has said.

Second, I doubt Ferentz would come to KC even if Pioli is hired. He's immediately turned down every other NFL position offered. Said he wants to stay in Iowa until his kid finishes High school or college or whatever. Holy Fock call the F.B.I.

DT58HOF
01-12-2009, 07:27 PM
I wonder if a guy with Pioli's pro experience would really want to start off his Chiefs career with a college coach. A college coach would have a learning curve adjusting to the demands/responsibilities of the pro game, whereas a guy already acclimated to the pro game could make for a quicker offseason transition.

He is an ex NFL Coach
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DT58HOF
01-12-2009, 07:40 PM
USC handles alot of people.

except for Oregon State (2),Stanford,Oregon,Ucla,Texas they have handled everyone but the teams they were supposed to crush over the past 4-5 years.

ChiefsCountry
01-12-2009, 07:41 PM
except for Oregon State (2),Stanford,Oregon,Ucla,Texas they have handled everyone but the teams they were supposed to crush over the past 4-5 years.

Funny coming from a Notre Dame fan who USC has made their personal bitch.

Bambi
01-13-2009, 01:20 PM
5...4...3...2...1...