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beach tribe
01-13-2009, 01:25 PM
It is time to remove all doubt that Clark Hunt is an exceptional owner.
He is man of his word, and I have never seen a GM search handled with such professionalism. It is a good day, and era to be a Chiefs fan. REJOICE!!
I can't think of a anyone else I would want to be running the Chiefs.
Clark is my new most admired person. WE LOVE YOU CLARK!!!!

BYE BYE HERMIE!!

CupidStunt
01-13-2009, 01:28 PM
I wouldn't go that far. THUS FAR, he's doing a good job. It's still far too early. It's not like we didn't just witness 6-26. Personally I would've fired Carl and Herm after 4-12 if I was in Clark's shoes. They pulled a great draft out of their ass (although it obviously wasn't just them, and a new GM/coach might've done the same), but they also crippled some of the new players by shitty coaching.

rambleonthruthefog
01-13-2009, 01:29 PM
for hes a jolly good fellow
for hes a jolly good fellow
for hes a jolly good fellow
which nobody can deny.

Buehler445
01-13-2009, 01:29 PM
What? Did we hire someone?

beach tribe
01-13-2009, 01:30 PM
I wouldn't go that far. THUS FAR, he's doing a good job. It's still far too early. It's not like we didn't just witness 6-26. Personally I would've fired Carl and Herm after 4-12 if I was in Clark's shoes. They pulled a great draft out of their ass (although it obviously wasn't just them, and a new GM/coach might've done the same), but they also crippled some of the new players by shitty coaching.

I'm not sure it wasn't his intent to lose ass this season, and dump Herm in the process. It seems like he has built up to this point. He wanted high picks, and didn't let Carl or Herm spend a damn dollar in FAs. The guy is smart he knew we weren't going to win shit this season, and it has worked to perfection.

Ari Chi3fs
01-13-2009, 01:32 PM
Clark Mother FUcking Hunt!! You da motha fuckin man!!!

Mr. Arrowhead
01-13-2009, 01:33 PM
Clark is Da Man

Rooster
01-13-2009, 01:34 PM
I love me some Clark.

Chief Henry
01-13-2009, 01:36 PM
I will have a drink or two tonight and toast Mr. Hunt :)

eazyb81
01-13-2009, 01:37 PM
No shit. You gotta hand it to the man. He went out and hired the best candidate available, and did it out without leaking info every step of the way.

Like it or not, he did it the right way, and showed he's serious about making this franchise a winner.

beach tribe
01-13-2009, 01:38 PM
I just Jizzed in my pants!!

Mr. Flopnuts
01-13-2009, 01:40 PM
What the fuck is going on in here?

DeezNutz
01-13-2009, 01:40 PM
No shit. You gotta hand it to the man. He went out and hired the best candidate available, and did it out without leaking info every step of the way.

Like it or not, he did it the right way, and showed he's serious about making this franchise a winner.

Exactly.

chiefscafan
01-13-2009, 01:43 PM
Today shows we have an owner who wants to win I am estatic

Mr. Flopnuts
01-13-2009, 01:43 PM
OMFG!!!!!!

beach tribe
01-13-2009, 01:43 PM
OOOOHHHHHH YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Frosty
01-13-2009, 01:53 PM
I'm tempering my enthusiasm until I see the "Herm Fired!!" threads but so far, so good! :thumb:

MGRS13
01-13-2009, 01:55 PM
He aint gettin no praise from me until he fires herm.

Mr. Laz
01-13-2009, 01:59 PM
Clark went out and got "THE MAN"

no matter what happens with Pioli in the future at least Clark shot for the top. :clap: :clap:

Dr. Facebook Fever
01-13-2009, 02:42 PM
What? Did we hire someone?

Jimmy Raye

beach tribe
01-13-2009, 02:47 PM
He aint gettin no praise from me until he fires herm.

Hey Clark has done everything he was supposed to, and promised to do. He did his job to the utmost perfection.

Look to Pioli for what's to come. Clarks' job is DONE!!!

KChiefs1
01-13-2009, 05:03 PM
Clark might want to win more than Lamar did.

Dayze
01-13-2009, 05:53 PM
"I'm Clark Hunt B*TCH"!

R&GHomer
01-13-2009, 06:05 PM
I couldn't have asked for a better owner up to this point. Putting back a few cold ones in his honor. NOW FIRE HERM and the rest of these guys and lets get going. Wow, what an exciting time to be a fan. :BLVD:

Tribal Warfare
01-13-2009, 06:06 PM
Clark might want to win more than Lamar did.

or get out of his legendary father's shadow.

tmax63
01-13-2009, 06:08 PM
Is this the same board who has been defacating their pants and blaming CH for the last week because nothing had happened yet???

warrior
01-13-2009, 06:11 PM
Well yeah ??????

BigRedChief
01-13-2009, 06:14 PM
He has proven all he needs to me.

He just laid out a bunch of money for Pioli. He's going to have to pay King Carl and Herm for the last year of their contracts. He could have waited and let them finish but he pulled the trigger now. He went out and got the best GM available.

Major props to Mr. Clark Hunt. His first major decision and he hits it out of the park

KcMizzou
01-13-2009, 06:15 PM
Well done, sir. :clap:

Stinger
01-13-2009, 06:20 PM
I just Jizzed in my pants!!

OOOOHHHHHH YEEESSSSSSS!!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v250/stinger871/Chief%20Planet/2431.gif

Lurker2:-)=)
01-13-2009, 07:34 PM
He has proven all he needs to me.

He just laid out a bunch of money for Pioli. He's going to have to pay King Carl and Herm for the last year of their contracts. He could have waited and let them finish but he pulled the trigger now. He went out and got the best GM available.

Major props to Mr. Clark Hunt. His first major decision and he hits it out of the park

I agree. Way to go!! The top GM prospect, who knows how to build a team and work WITH a NEW COACH!!! :D :clap: :clap: :clap:

Rausch
01-13-2009, 07:43 PM
Is this the same board who has been defacating their pants and blaming CH for the last week because nothing had happened yet???

:grr:

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kstater
01-13-2009, 07:49 PM
fap fap fap

Skip Towne
01-13-2009, 08:03 PM
Clark has done what he is supposed to do thus far. But it is far too early to celebrate. Remember all of the "Superbowl for certain" BS when Vermiel came aboard? This could be more of the same.

cdcox
01-13-2009, 08:06 PM
Clark has done what he is supposed to do thus far. But it is far too early to celebrate. Remember all of the "Superbowl for certain" BS when Vermiel came aboard? This could be more of the same.

I'm just wondering of the trophy case in the new Arrowhead is going to be big enough to hold all of the Lombardis we are going to win.

KcMizzou
01-13-2009, 08:08 PM
Clark has done what he is supposed to do thus far. But it is far too early to celebrate. Remember all of the "Superbowl for certain" BS when Vermiel came aboard? This could be more of the same.It's not that anyone thinks this guarantees anything.

It's about how Clark has handled it. He was thorough, professional, and hired the guy considered the best available talent on the market.

And the cheap play would have been to let CP and Herm ride out another season. Now he's paying double for a season. For a business man, that's a tough pill to swallow.

But the man wants to win. He's proven that much. And really, that's all we can ask for.

KcMizzou
01-13-2009, 08:09 PM
I'm just wondering of the trophy case in the new Arrowhead is going to be big enough to hold all of the Lombardis we are going to win.Come on, man. You know nobody (reasonable) is saying that... don't ya?

Danman
01-13-2009, 08:12 PM
Is this the same board who has been defacating their pants and blaming CH for the last week because nothing had happened yet???

I love the way Clark handled this-out of town in Dallas and without press leaks. Fantastic. We, the fans can bitch all we want. . . and we will. . . about not having any info. The truth is we don't know how many GM and HC candidates he's already talked to. He had a plan, and he executed it beutifully

Hell he may even have told Herm weeks ago he was fired. Remember the week Herm was flat for his weekly press conference? I wouldn't put it past Clark to have fired Herm then and told him if he leaked that info before the new GM and HC were named he'd not only not pay him the final year of his salary but also sue him for breech of contract

cdcox
01-13-2009, 08:13 PM
Come on, man. You know nobody (reasonable) is saying that... don't ya?

I AM.

I've waited 39 years. I probably don't have 39 more left. I'm going to be optimistic and enjoy every minute. At least for tonight.

Danman
01-13-2009, 08:13 PM
I want Clark to get used to holding the Lamar Hunt Trophy.

KcMizzou
01-13-2009, 08:15 PM
I AM.

I've waited 39 years. I probably don't have 39 more left. I'm going to be optimistic and enjoy every minute. At least for tonight.Damn... and here I thought you were being all sarcastic, when you were just basking in the glow.

My bad. :D :toast:

beach tribe
01-13-2009, 08:15 PM
Come on, man. You know nobody (reasonable) is saying that... don't ya?

Obviously not. No one is saying anything is going to happen. God or bad. Just that Clark did the absolute best thing for this organization, and has shown he will do what it takes. That is what is being celebrated. Not our guaranteed SB trophies.

beach tribe
01-13-2009, 08:16 PM
I AM.

I've waited 39 years. I probably don't have 39 more left. I'm going to be optimistic and enjoy every minute. At least for tonight.

Oh...No shit...well.....I'm in.

Skip Towne
01-13-2009, 08:35 PM
I'm just wondering of the trophy case in the new Arrowhead is going to be big enough to hold all of the Lombardis we are going to win.

Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.

RippedmyFlesh
01-13-2009, 08:49 PM
Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.
But the shadow of peterson was still present.
I am 10X more excited now than I was when DV was hired.

cdcox
01-13-2009, 08:52 PM
Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.

Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years, while in later years, it's all dope. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> dope, hope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

KcMizzou
01-13-2009, 08:55 PM
Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> hope, dope, dope

We're entering a golden age.You've got all this shit figured out. That's what I like about you.

luv
01-13-2009, 09:00 PM
Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years, while in later years, it's all dope. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> dope, hope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

Looking at the outcome of the other golden eras, are you telling us to remain cautious (as Skip obviously is), or are you saying you honestly expect better results?

cdcox
01-13-2009, 09:06 PM
Looking at the outcome of the other golden eras, are you telling us to remain cautious (as Skip obviously is), or are you saying you honestly expect better results?

Golden eras are a time for celebration and dancing in the streets. If you wait until the golden age is at its peak (mid way through our run of 9 SBs) you'll miss out on half of the fun.

Darth CarlSatan
01-14-2009, 08:13 AM
It's not that anyone thinks this guarantees anything.

It's about how Clark has handled it. He was thorough, professional, and hired the guy considered the best available talent on the market.

And the cheap play would have been to let CP and Herm ride out another season. Now he's paying double for a season. For a business man, that's a tough pill to swallow.

But the man wants to win. He's proven that much. And really, that's all we can ask for.

Yes.

Obviously not. No one is saying anything is going to happen. God or bad. Just that Clark did the absolute best thing for this organization, and has shown he will do what it takes. That is what is being celebrated. Not our guaranteed SB trophies.

The Chiefs have finally realized what I've been saying for years:

"It takes money to make money".

But the shadow of peterson was still present.
I am 10X more excited now than I was when DV was hired.

This. There's going to be a bit of shell-shock during Pioli's tenure. After 40+ years of mediocrity and epic suck, the Chiefs Nation is just not used to seeing a football franchise run in a Platinum Standard way.
A year from now we're going to be very excited but also very pissed because we'll all be looking back over the Steadman/Peterson eras and asking ourselves why this didn't happen 10 years earlier.


Mr. Clark Hunt has stepped up in the most gargantuan way this franchise has seen since Lamar Hunt and company founded the AFL. He has also demonstrated a business acumen that will eventually put him at the head of the Owners Table.
He's begun writing his own story in Chiefs History, and the first two chapters have been nothing less than stunning.

Thank YOU Mr. Clark Hunt; I look forward to growing old, cranky and senile with you at the helm of this Great Sports Institution!

Super Bowl Bound in 2010, Baby!:wayne:PBJ:toast::rockon::thumb:

rambleonthruthefog
01-23-2009, 03:52 PM
thought i'd dig up this bad boy!!!! Clark Hunt stepped up. no doubt about it.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 06:39 PM
thought i'd dig up this bad boy!!!! Clark Hunt stepped up. no doubt about it.

Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

SNR
01-23-2009, 06:44 PM
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.Your signature makes no sense whatsoever.

Bwana
01-23-2009, 06:48 PM
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

Huh?

JuicesFlowing
01-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.

How?

KcMizzou
01-23-2009, 06:49 PM
Clark DID step up. Mr. Pioli on the other hand has dropped the ball with his laziness and dishonesty.:spock:

KcMizzou
01-23-2009, 06:51 PM
I don't think we need to question Clark's desire to win anymore.

All that stuff about Fiji and soccer seems pretty silly now.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 06:52 PM
Your signature makes no sense whatsoever.

Huh?

Then let me explain.

There was nothing "meticulous" about the search for a head coach. This was the epitome of the lazy, "take what you can get" move.

And if you think the Chiefs are going to build a "Championship Team" with Shannahan at the helm? Well, you'll see soon enough, and for four to five years.

KcMizzou
01-23-2009, 06:54 PM
Then let me explain.

There was nothing "meticulous" about the search for a head coach. This was the epitome of the lazy, "take what you can get" move.

And if you think the Chiefs are going to build a "Championship Team" with Shannahan at the helm? Well, you'll see soon enough, and for four to five years.Did I miss a press conference or something?

SNR
01-23-2009, 06:55 PM
Then let me explain.

There was nothing "meticulous" about the search for a head coach. This was the epitome of the lazy, "take what you can get" move.

And if you think the Chiefs are going to build a "Championship Team" with Shannahan at the helm? Well, you'll see soon enough, and for four to five years.I mean, your signature is just a smattering of semi-complete sentences.

I assume you mean that Clark and Pioli using buzzwords about championship teams doesn't make them saviors of this organization.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 06:55 PM
Did I miss a press conference or something?

It's all but Official; Shannahan is the new Head Coach.

RedThat
01-23-2009, 06:57 PM
Yeah, but there was a sense of hope. In fact I'm noticing a pattern:

Marty - hope
Gunther - dope
DV - hope
Herm - dope

So we're due for a "hope" coach. Now this is superimposed on the GM cycle:

Steadman - hope (he won a SB)
Peterson - dope

So we are due for a "hope" GM too. Also notice that the overall trend of the Gms is upward. Peterson's best dope was better than Steadman's worst hope. Also for any GM, their hope phase tends to be strongest in their early years, while in later years, it's all dope. So we have three, count 'em three, trends going in our favor.

Pioli is a hope GM.
The coach he hires is destined to be a hope coach.
The early years of a new regime are a hope cycle.

Compared to DV:

Peterson was a dope GM.
The coach was a hope coach.
We were in the late part of the Peterson regime, which was totally dope.

hope, hope, hope >> dope, hope, dope

We're entering a golden age.

the "philosopher" cdcox

KcMizzou
01-23-2009, 06:57 PM
It's all but Official; Shannahan is the new Head Coach.Getting an early start on being Shannahan's Reerun?

(And I certainly don't know about "all but Official")

stevieray
01-23-2009, 06:59 PM
ropeahope

bishop_74
01-23-2009, 07:00 PM
It's all but Official; Shannahan is the new Head Coach.

What? That's not true. There are whispers that they are in negotiations that may or may not be true.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 07:06 PM
I mean, your signature is just a smattering of semi-complete sentences.

I assume you mean that Clark and Pioli using buzzwords about championship teams doesn't make them saviors of this organization.

I mean that they said one thing, and are CLEARLY doing another.

I thought this franchise had finally turned a corner, but it's pretty obvious to me that we're right back to "Asses in the seats, and good enough is good enough".

This move makes no sense whatsoever in terms of the vision that was presented.
All I have to say, is that I better be witness to the Greatest Press Conference in the history of organized sports.
I better hear a plausible justification from Pioli or Hunt regarding this hire, and I better hear something other than the usual "blah-blah-blah" from Shannahan; he better dazzle me to the point of inability to see.

I didn't put up with Gunther, The Crybaby, and Herman "In over my head" Edwards for this franchise, at a crossroads and in a position to do something great, to pull such a mediocre decision.

All this talk and ragging on "True Fans" has been justified. That said, the ranks of the TF's have just swollen, and are now occupied by a great number of the same people here who laughed at them.

SNR
01-23-2009, 07:08 PM
I mean that they said one thing, and are CLEARLY doing another.

I thought this franchise had finally turned a corner, but it's pretty obvious to me that we're right back to "Asses in the seats, and good enough is good enough".

This move makes no sense whatsoever in terms of the vision that was presented.
All I have to say, is that I better be witness to the Greatest Press Conference in the history of organized sports.
I better hear a plausible justification from Pioli or Hunt regarding this hire, and I better hear something other than the usual "blah-blah-blah" from Shannahan; he better dazzle me to the point of inability to see.

I didn't put up with Gunther, The Crybaby, and Herman "In over my head" Edwards for this franchise, at a crossroads and in a position to do something great, to pull such a mediocre decision.

All this talk and ragging on "True Fans" has been justified. That said, the ranks of the TF's have just swollen, and are now occupied by a great many numbr of the same people here who laughed at them.Who's your pick for head coach? Haley?

stevieray
01-23-2009, 07:10 PM
All this talk and ragging on "True Fans" has been justified. That said, the ranks of the TF's have just swollen, and are now occupied by a great number of the same people here who laughed at them.

prolly the most overexaggerated psuedo 'lexicon' ever discussed....


:shake:

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 07:11 PM
Who's your pick for head coach? Haley?

Nah. I'd love him as a OC( who wouldn't ), but I'd much rather have a DC from Baltimore or Pittsburgh as the Chiefs Head Coach.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 07:14 PM
prolly the most overexaggerated psuedo 'lexicon' ever discussed....


:shake:

You can call it "Jimmy Crack Corn" if you like; it is what it is.

KChiefs1
01-23-2009, 07:15 PM
Cowher has been looking for houses in the area...I'm not giving up!

beach tribe
01-23-2009, 07:18 PM
The chin FTW.

LOCOChief
01-23-2009, 07:18 PM
Cowher is the man for the job

SNR
01-23-2009, 07:24 PM
Nah. I'd love him as a OC( who wouldn't ), but I'd much rather have a DC from Baltimore or Pittsburgh as the Chiefs Head Coach.I'm noticing you sounded a lot like a Frenchman from the 1790s in your previous post. You make a lot of demands and point fingers at people around you for the problems in spite of the incredible progress that's been made.

Carl's gone. Pioli's here. Herm's gone. That's a HUGE step in the right direction. That's why masses of Chiefs fans are buying "True Fan" stock right now, because most of the things they think they need have been satisfied and realized by the owner Clark Hunt. They see a competant guy in Clark at the head, who has hired a brilliant mind to make important decisions like this.

If they hired Shanahan, I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be disappointed. Keep in mind, he was a great, young, promising coordinator before becoming a coach, just like the kind of guy you want. I think his problems in Denver were due to him just overstaying his welcome. It happens to the best of coaches who have been in one place for awhile.

Also, keep in mind, the way this organization is going to be run from now on is by the head coach and the GM being in agreeance on the direction. I'd think Shanahan if hired would be alerted to Pioli's method, and not his usual way of drafting first round usts.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 07:35 PM
I'm noticing you sounded a lot like a Frenchman from the 1790s in your previous post. You make a lot of demands and point fingers at people around you for the problems in spite of the incredible progress that's been made.

Carl's gone. Pioli's here. Herm's gone. That's a HUGE step in the right direction. That's why masses of Chiefs fans are buying "True Fan" stock right now, because most of the things they think they need have been satisfied and realized by the owner Clark Hunt. They see a competant guy in Clark at the head, who has hired a brilliant mind to make important decisions like this.

If they hired Shanahan, I'd be shocked, but I wouldn't be disappointed. Keep in mind, he was a great, young, promising coordinator before becoming a coach, just like the kind of guy you want. I think his problems in Denver were due to him just overstaying his welcome. It happens to the best of coaches who have been in one place for awhile.

Also, keep in mind, the way this organization is going to be run from now on is by the head coach and the GM being in agreeance on the direction. I'd think Shanahan if hired would be alerted to Pioli's method, and not his usual way of drafting first round usts.

I'll concede that MS's multiple roles probably had a hand in the decline of his performance, just as it screwed KC via Carl.
But is he coming here because he really believes in this franchise and the talent, or is it just petty vindictiveness towards Bowlen?

I'm not trying to stir the shit here, I am genuinely worried about the future of this team.

This has all the potential of a "One step forward, two steps back" outcome.

DeezNutz
01-23-2009, 07:39 PM
I'll concede that MS's multiple roles probably had a hand in the decline of his performance, just as it screwed KC via Carl.
But is he coming here because he really believes in this franchise and the talent, or is it just petty vindictiveness towards Bowlen?

I'm not trying to stir the shit here, I am genuinely worried about the future of this team.

This has all the potential of a "One step forward, two steps back" outcome.

Chill out.

For all the talk about "working as a team" and all the niceties, this is Pioli's ship now, and I'm sure he's smart enough to see through any bullshit that potential suitors might throw at him.

After all, Herm's political maneuverings didn't work...

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 08:02 PM
Chill out.

For all the talk about "working as a team" and all the niceties, this is Pioli's ship now, and I'm sure he's smart enough to see through any bullshit that potential suitors might throw at him.

After all, Herm's political maneuverings didn't work...

True that. I'll give Scott and Mike a chance if it has to go that way, but I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm not alone in believing that hiring Mike raises the expectation level through the roof and most-definitely shortens the leash for both.

DeezNutz
01-23-2009, 08:06 PM
True that. I'll give Scott and Mike a chance if it has to go that way, but I think it's pretty safe to say that I'm not alone in believing that hiring Mike raises the expectation level through the roof and most-definitely shortens the leash for both.

Oh, fuck yes it raises the level of expectations. 5 SB rings between them tend to do that.

I don't think that shortens a leash, though. If anything, I think it would do the opposite.

If things would, for some strange reason, go completely south, past successes might inspire more patience. Something along the lines of, "They've done it before, so I'm sure they'll do it again."

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 08:08 PM
Oh, fuck yes it raises the level of expectations. 5 SB rings between them tend to do that.

I don't think that shortens a leash, though. If anything, I think it would do the opposite.

If things would, for some strange reason, go completely south, past successes might inspire more patience. Something along the lines of, "They've done it before, so I'm sure they'll do it again."

I could just about kill ESPN. When I left the house they were 100% that Mike was the guy. Now other sources say "No".

This shit can't end soon enough.

DeezNutz
01-23-2009, 08:09 PM
I could just about kill ESPN. When I left the house they were 100% that Mike was the guy. Now other sources say "No".

This shit can't end soon enough.

From my perspective, it's just fun to be the story.

Been awhile since that's been the case with this team.

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 08:15 PM
From my perspective, it's just fun to be the story.

Been awhile since that's been the case with this team.

It's a step up from "those pesky Chiefs" for sure.

JASONSAUTO
01-23-2009, 08:16 PM
Nah. I'd love him as a OC( who wouldn't ), but I'd much rather have a DC from Baltimore or Pittsburgh as the Chiefs Head Coach.

REX RYAN is the coach of the NYJ and dick lebeau is like 70(seriously)

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 08:17 PM
REX RYAN is the coach of the NYJ and dick lebeau is like 70(seriously)

Old mans right hand man / understudy?

Throw me a frickin' bone here!:D

JASONSAUTO
01-23-2009, 08:21 PM
Old mans right hand man / understudy?

Throw me a frickin' bone here!:D

hell i would LOVE for lebeau to be around this team in some capacity but it's never gonna happen he loves pitt too much

Darth CarlSatan
01-23-2009, 09:16 PM
hell i would LOVE for lebeau to be around this team in some capacity but it's never gonna happen he loves pitt too much

I would like to see the Pittsburgh defensive philosophy around these parts.

JASONSAUTO
01-23-2009, 09:24 PM
I would like to see the Pittsburgh defensive philosophy around these parts.

me too

Otter
01-24-2009, 02:42 AM
Based on what I've seen so far I'd take Clark Hunt in competition any of the big boys in NY in a heart beat. The man knows how to handle business and he brought in a guy in Pioli who compliments that philosophy.

I think KC is about to be frustrated by the behind the doors negotiations by happy with the outcome. Get used to "different".

I know it's way early but I think the KC Chiefs just joined the big boys.

Our boy is wicked smart [Good Will Hunting / Boston Pioli Cross Reference]

Mark M
01-24-2009, 07:33 AM
Based on what I've seen so far I'd take Clark Hunt in competition any of the big boys in NY in a heart beat. The man knows how to handle business and he brought in a guy in Pioli who compliments that philosophy.

I think KC is about to be frustrated by the behind the doors negotiations [ but ] happy with the outcome. Get used to "different".

This is exactly what I was thinking driving home yesterday and listening to the sports radio.

We're all used to leaks and things being ... well, handled really, really sloppily by Carl. Almost as if the organization were just fumbling around trying to figure stuff out, even after 20 years.

But this whole process since Clark's taken over has been the tightest-lipped and just-plain-deliberative thing I've ever seen from the Chiefs.

Yes, it's frustrating as all holy hell for fans and the media. And it may even seem like they're just sitting in an office somewhere smoking cigars and playing Fiki football with $100 bills.

But I also get the sense that grown ups are now in charge ... people who understand that the NFL, while based around a game, is in reality a big business in which leaders should properly and thoroughly vet every decision. There aren't any handshake deals, like when Lamar first started the team, and it's become incredibly cut throat on a number of levels ... something I honestly don't think Lamar really liked and didn't want to deal with.

Clark is most definitely different, and seems to have an actual plan of what to do with the team. Given the worry some of us had around here about the guy -- how involved would he be, would he rather have the team somewhere other than KC, was he even interested in the team -- these first few moves have done wonders to shore up fan confidence.

It's also taught us that, with Clark, we're going to have to be really, really patient. Dude's gotta map of where he wants to go and how to get there, and I'm more than happy to sit back and see where he takes us. Mainly because, for once, I trust the guy who's driving.

MM
~~:thumb:

milkman
01-24-2009, 07:57 AM
Yep, that was the spirit around here when VD showed up.

I didn't have that spirit.

I didn't go all Proctor and melt down, but I was pissed.

milkman
01-24-2009, 08:00 AM
You've got all this shit figured out. That's what I like about you.

It's all mathmatics.

whoman69
01-24-2009, 10:04 AM
I'll be on the Clark bandwagon when he decides not to keep the team $30 million under the cap.

BigChiefFan
01-24-2009, 10:13 AM
This is exactly what I was thinking driving home yesterday and listening to the sports radio.

We're all used to leaks and things being ... well, handled really, really sloppily by Carl. Almost as if the organization were just fumbling around trying to figure stuff out, even after 20 years.

But this whole process since Clark's taken over has been the tightest-lipped and just-plain-deliberative thing I've ever seen from the Chiefs.

Yes, it's frustrating as all holy hell for fans and the media. And it may even seem like they're just sitting in an office somewhere smoking cigars and playing Fiki football with $100 bills.

But I also get the sense that grown ups are now in charge ... people who understand that the NFL, while based around a game, is in reality a big business in which leaders should properly and thoroughly vet every decision. There aren't any handshake deals, like when Lamar first started the team, and it's become incredibly cut throat on a number of levels ... something I honestly don't think Lamar really liked and didn't want to deal with.

Clark is most definitely different, and seems to have an actual plan of what to do with the team. Given the worry some of us had around here about the guy -- how involved would he be, would he rather have the team somewhere other than KC, was he even interested in the team -- these first few moves have done wonders to shore up fan confidence.

It's also taught us that, with Clark, we're going to have to be really, really patient. Dude's gotta map of where he wants to go and how to get there, and I'm more than happy to sit back and see where he takes us. Mainly because, for once, I trust the guy who's driving.

MM
~~:thumb:Damn good post and it's good to seeing you posting on here.

Otter
01-24-2009, 03:35 PM
This is exactly what I was thinking driving home yesterday and listening to the sports radio.

We're all used to leaks and things being ... well, handled really, really sloppily by Carl. Almost as if the organization were just fumbling around trying to figure stuff out, even after 20 years.

But this whole process since Clark's taken over has been the tightest-lipped and just-plain-deliberative thing I've ever seen from the Chiefs.

Yes, it's frustrating as all holy hell for fans and the media. And it may even seem like they're just sitting in an office somewhere smoking cigars and playing Fiki football with $100 bills.

But I also get the sense that grown ups are now in charge ... people who understand that the NFL, while based around a game, is in reality a big business in which leaders should properly and thoroughly vet every decision. There aren't any handshake deals, like when Lamar first started the team, and it's become incredibly cut throat on a number of levels ... something I honestly don't think Lamar really liked and didn't want to deal with.

Clark is most definitely different, and seems to have an actual plan of what to do with the team. Given the worry some of us had around here about the guy -- how involved would he be, would he rather have the team somewhere other than KC, was he even interested in the team -- these first few moves have done wonders to shore up fan confidence.

It's also taught us that, with Clark, we're going to have to be really, really patient. Dude's gotta map of where he wants to go and how to get there, and I'm more than happy to sit back and see where he takes us. Mainly because, for once, I trust the guy who's driving.

MM
~~:thumb:

A-freaking-Men brother.

That is all.

SNR
01-24-2009, 03:43 PM
I'll be on the Clark bandwagon when he decides not to keep the team $30 million under the cap.That was Carl. Be patient with Pioli. He'll use the money available in the best way possible

whoman69
01-24-2009, 05:41 PM
That was Carl. Be patient with Pioli. He'll use the money available in the best way possible

Are you so sure it was all Carl?

StcChief
01-24-2009, 05:50 PM
It's obvious a plan exists, else Pioli wouldn't be here.

TEX
01-24-2009, 06:08 PM
Today was the first time I have worn a Chiefs cap in 3 years. I'll also go to a game a ARROWHEAD next season, something else I haven't done in 3 years.
Goodbye Herm! Clark - you DA MAN!

jspchief
01-24-2009, 06:10 PM
I'll be on the Clark bandwagon when he decides not to keep the team $30 million under the cap.This organization has never had a better time to have a lot of cap space than right now. We're in the course of an enormous youth movement, facing our second of what may be 3+ years of very high draft picks, and bringing in a new era of front office.

In a year or two we'll have signed several high picks, have the money to re-sign the young players that we want to keep, and still have some money for our new GM and HC to go get the FAs they want.

I can't imagine a better way to go about rebuilding a team that has been treading water for 2 decades.

The thing I love most about all of this is how deliberate it seems. This isn't about plugging leaks to get another ~8 win season. It's about rebuilding the dam from the ground up, even if it means slogging through puddles for a few years. They are doing exactly what Chiefs fans have been asking for for years... setting aside the desire to put butts in the seats in the short term, so they can try to build a product that will create fans for many years to come.

theorangelion
01-24-2009, 06:15 PM
With the young players we have, the draft position we have, Pioli, we have a very bright future IMO. The O-line did not play that bad. Our secondary will be even better next year. The D-line needs major overhaul. DJ is the only Lb worth keeping. Another WR and get DBowe some stickem. Rb wow if we could stay healthy and get LJ an attitude adjustment. Well................ we will see what Shanny can do.LOL

whoman69
01-25-2009, 08:22 AM
With the young players we have, the draft position we have, Pioli, we have a very bright future IMO. The O-line did not play that bad. Our secondary will be even better next year. The D-line needs major overhaul. DJ is the only Lb worth keeping. Another WR and get DBowe some stickem. Rb wow if we could stay healthy and get LJ an attitude adjustment. Well................ we will see what Shanny can do.LOL

I can't agree with you on the offensive line. Part of the reason for the rash of injuries was that they couldn't protect. We also had to switch into a scheme where it was inherent to the QB to run out of trouble, keep the defense guessing. I don't think that scheme is anything more than a stopgap. You're never going to be able to build a winner on a team that cannot run out of a traditional set up or pass out of a pocket. If Thigpen wants to develop into a real QB he is going to need to be able to line up under center for most of the plays. That means he'll need footwork, and the ability to run through progressions. The offensive line is going to need to show it can create a traditional pocket. We still have some major holes.