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Sully
01-13-2009, 06:09 PM
I think this will be a topic of discussion while we wait for our coach to be hired, so I thought I'd make a poll.

I prefer a 3-4 for a few reasons...

1) Not a ton of teams run it, meaning it's marginally more time consuming to prepare for.
2) The blocking angles are a lot tougher to deal with.
3) It can be very multiple.
4) I love the different blitzes that can be run out of it, including zone blitzes. I think these work better from a 3-man front.
5) I believe the front 7 athletes for a 3-4 are easier to find. The D-linemen are tougher than LBs, but also aren't as highly paid. There seem to be tons more tweeners coming out of college. And if it's a well-run system, it can be plug-and-play to a certain extent.
6) You get faster athletes on the field.


I know we don't have the personnel for it right now, but as has been said in another thread...we rally don't have great personnel for the 4-3, either.

Sully
01-13-2009, 06:09 PM
I meant to make this a poll...
...my bad.

L.A. Chieffan
01-13-2009, 06:10 PM
uh

BigVE
01-13-2009, 06:10 PM
Let's see who our coach is first...huh?

Sully
01-13-2009, 06:11 PM
Let's see who our coach is first...huh?

I thought it was a better discussion pre-coach, as once we have him in place, we'll pretty much know.

smittysbar
01-13-2009, 06:13 PM
I like the 3-4 and would love to see the switch

Cornstock
01-13-2009, 06:18 PM
I like the idea of a 3-4 but I don't know where Dorsey would fit in to it. He's definately not a noseguard because he's not big enough, and theres no way he could play DE. If we didnt have such a high pick invested in him i would support it.

Also I think 3-4 LBs are easier to find than 4-3 because they can specialize a little bit more. i.e. you can have a pass rushing LB or a coverage LB

ChiefsCountry
01-13-2009, 06:19 PM
I like the 4-3. Basically its either find a big fat ass for the middle of a 3-4 or a stud pass rusher at DE for a 4-3. Its easier to get a pass rusher than the fat ass.

Sully
01-13-2009, 06:23 PM
I like the 4-3. Basically its either find a big fat ass for the middle of a 3-4 or a stud pass rusher at DE for a 4-3. Its easier to get a pass rusher than the fat ass.

You think so?
I don't know...I'll have to think about that, but my gut reaction is that it's pretty equal.

ChiefsCountry
01-13-2009, 06:26 PM
You think so?
I don't know...I'll have to think about that, but my gut reaction is that it's pretty equal.

Lots of teams have multiple pass rushers, very few have the special NG required for a 3-4.

petegz28
01-13-2009, 06:26 PM
I been screaming for a 3-4 for years. Everyone has said we don't have the talent for a 3-4 yet Vonnie Holiday, who we cut, is playing well in a 3-4.

Though Dorsey would have to be moved to end and not tackle.

BigRedChief
01-13-2009, 06:27 PM
Whatever Pioli wants.

Sully
01-13-2009, 06:28 PM
I said this in the other thread, but I like Dorsey a lot. I really want to see him succeed. But I simply don't think you build a defense around a 2nd year player who, while showing flashes, had a disappointing year. I don't see him fitting at 3-4 DE...but maybe going back to a full-time 2-gap style would benefit him.

Sully
01-13-2009, 06:29 PM
Lots of teams have multiple pass rushers, very few have the special NG required for a 3-4.

How many have tried to cultivate one?

Cornstock
01-13-2009, 06:31 PM
I been screaming for a 3-4 for years. Everyone has said we don't have the talent for a 3-4 yet Vonnie Holiday, who we cut, is playing well in a 3-4.

Though Dorsey would have to be moved to end and not tackle.

I dont think we should have let Holiday go when we did. That was a poor job of talent evaluation IMO.

Silock
01-13-2009, 06:36 PM
I don't care. I just want a defense on the field.

Basileus777
01-13-2009, 06:38 PM
Either way our front 7 needs to be completely rebuilt.

chiefscafan
01-13-2009, 06:48 PM
ok hypothetical here we said we are gonna make moves

we sign Terrell suggs
we sign Scott from Baltimore

on D

Suggs plays LB/DE
Scott plays other LB/DE
we draft Curry or Maauluga from Usc ILB
we tried Derrick JOhnson there this year other ILB

now the line i'm wondering but as a bama fan i remember Dorsey playing NT in a 3/4 and destroying oponents.

other De Tamba Hali
other De more inside the kid from Ten

could it work?

LOCOChief
01-13-2009, 06:50 PM
I dont think we should have let Holiday go when we did. That was a poor job of talent evaluation IMO.

That's what the Packers said.

Buzzsaw
01-13-2009, 06:56 PM
Three of the four teams still playing right now use the 3-4 as their base defense fwiw. Baltimore, Arizona, & Pittsburgh.

Mecca
01-13-2009, 06:57 PM
Personally I like the ability to be able to switch between both...