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Hog Farmer
01-14-2009, 07:36 AM
I don't think they like losing Pioli.....


http://www.patriotsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=42099



Chiefs have dismantled the Patriots in one season. Brady in Game one and now Pioli.

rad
01-14-2009, 07:37 AM
Heh.....I was just over there reading that.

Bacon Cheeseburger
01-14-2009, 07:39 AM
I hope they don't expect anyone to feel sorry for them.

Hog Farmer
01-14-2009, 07:42 AM
One of the comments:


I think that the loss of Pioli is the most significant staff loss the Pats have suffered yet. The guy was great and handled the cap better than probably anyone else in the business and that is a huge part of every team in the modern era. He was also a big cog in terms of personnel acquistion and put the scouting department together.

I feel badly to lose him, but the KC gig is an excellent one for somebody that knows what they are doing and I'll be shocked if they don't start climbing up the rungs of the ladder very soon.

Piloli's are some big shoes to fill, but as long as BB is in charge of the football stuff I see no reason to worry about the sky falling. We have a system in place that doesn't go south because of the loss of any one guy. Or four. Or more. Unless we are talking about Belichick himself in which case I recommend everybody immediately shit themselves-- I know I will.

Thank you, Scott and best of luck in your future endeavors. You did good for us and I hope you find what you are looking for in KC.
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Amnorix
01-14-2009, 07:45 AM
Losing Pioli is a big blow, but if forced to choose between BB and SP, I'll take BB.

It's espeically unfortunate that Dimitroff, who would have replaced SP, left to go to Atlanta last year. The hope is that Caserio can step into SP's shoes and do well.

The Patriots have the most cohesive front office / coaching group in the NFL, and hopefully that is maintained at a consistently high level.

Hog Farmer
01-14-2009, 07:54 AM
Gee, somebody posted this over there:


Good News!


Breaking News.... Per ESPN...

Herm Edwards to replace Scott Pioli in Patriots organization. The Patriots organization has been successful for far too long so the decision has been made to bring Herm Edwards in to fill the shoes of Scott Pioli. We decided that we need to be drafting in the top 5 for the next few years and the best way to accomplish that was to bring in a proven head coach that can get that accomplished. We don't know if Herm will be enough on his own to get this accomplished so we are targeting the rest of the coaching staff also. Clark hunt was not availabe for comment.
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Skip Towne
01-14-2009, 08:59 AM
Gee, somebody posted this over there:


Good News!


Breaking News.... Per ESPN...

Herm Edwards to replace Scott Pioli in Patriots organization. The Patriots organization has been successful for far too long so the decision has been made to bring Herm Edwards in to fill the shoes of Scott Pioli. We decided that we need to be drafting in the top 5 for the next few years and the best way to accomplish that was to bring in a proven head coach that can get that accomplished. We don't know if Herm will be enough on his own to get this accomplished so we are targeting the rest of the coaching staff also. Clark hunt was not availabe for comment.
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If Herm can't do it alone just start punting on 2nd down.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2009, 09:03 AM
Losing Pioli is a big blow, but if forced to choose between BB and SP, I'll take BB.

It's espeically unfortunate that Dimitroff, who would have replaced SP, left to go to Atlanta last year. The hope is that Caserio can step into SP's shoes and do well.

The Patriots have the most cohesive front office / coaching group in the NFL, and hopefully that is maintained at a consistently high level.


How much input does Jonathan Kraft have?

Amnorix
01-14-2009, 09:18 AM
How much input does Jonathan Kraft have?

He's the heir-apparent to his father. He has no input that I know of on football decisions, he's strictly on the business side.

They probably need to run big financial decisions by him, but I wouldn't think anything more than that.

Deberg_1990
01-14-2009, 09:19 AM
He's the heir-apparent to his father. He has no input that I know of on football decisions, he's strictly on the business side.

They probably need to run big financial decisions by him, but I wouldn't think anything more than that.


ahh..

So basically Pioli was the GM in NE even thought he didnt have that specific title?

MaxFects
01-14-2009, 09:29 AM
Patriots are over with and Pioli knows it. They're an old team with a quarterback with a bum knee and a backup that couldn't take them to the playoffs.

KCrockaholic
01-14-2009, 09:33 AM
Wow Pat fans are scared...its kinda funny

MOhillbilly
01-14-2009, 09:36 AM
brady and pioli in the same year. ouch!

StcChief
01-14-2009, 09:38 AM
Pats days are numbered to begin rebuilding...

Skip Towne
01-14-2009, 09:38 AM
brady and pioli in the same year. ouch!

And the Chiefs did both of them.

FringeNC
01-14-2009, 09:39 AM
The question I have is how long will Belichick remain? He's in his late 50s I believe, but doesn't really look it. My guess is that he is there for quite a bit longer, in which case he will keep finding smart, hard-working football people and keep it going. I just can't see Belichick retiring. He seems too competitive and seems to love the game too much.

The talk of the Patriots' demise is way too premature.

Tribal Warfare
01-14-2009, 09:40 AM
Total Meltdown mode

EyePod
01-14-2009, 09:49 AM
ahh..

So basically Pioli was the GM in NE even thought he didnt have that specific title?

Yeah. Pioli and BB both had veto power over any player. So Pioli had a lot of power.

smittysbar
01-14-2009, 09:53 AM
Losing Pioli is a big blow, but if forced to choose between BB and SP, I'll take BB.

It's espeically unfortunate that Dimitroff, who would have replaced SP, left to go to Atlanta last year. The hope is that Caserio can step into SP's shoes and do well.

The Patriots have the most cohesive front office / coaching group in the NFL, and hopefully that is maintained at a consistently high level.

Losing so many guys has to catch up sooner or later.

Frazod
01-14-2009, 10:56 AM
Patriots are over with and Pioli knows it. They're an old team with a quarterback with a bum knee and a backup that couldn't take them to the playoffs.

This is dumb statement. They finished the season 11-5. This was the first time in over 20 years that an 11-5 team didn't make the playoffs. They won three more games than the Chargers. You tell me who deserved to be in the playoffs.

Pioli wanted to be the man and jumped ship. It's a bit early to write off the Patriots based on that alone.

chiefsngop
01-14-2009, 11:41 AM
Maybe some of the Debbie Downer "what has Pioli really ever done" pricks should jump over there and read some of that.

Basileus777
01-14-2009, 11:43 AM
I think this thread at Pats fan is the most amusing I've seen.

Does Pioli's hiring make KC a potential suitor for Brady? (http://www.patsfans.com/new-england-patriots/messageboard/10/207433-does-piolis-hiring-make-kc-potential-suitor-brady.html)