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Rain Man
01-14-2009, 06:18 PM
In 1988, Carl Peterson inherited a team that had recorded 8.5 wins over the previous two years. In 2009, Scott Pioli inherited a team that had recorded 6 wins over the previous two years. Let's look at the rosters they got:


Starters:




Carl's Gang Scott's Gang

QB Steve DeBerg 34 Tyler Thigpen 24
HB Paul Palmer 24 Larry Johnson 29
FB Christian Okoye 27 Mike Cox 23
WR Carlos Carson 30 Dwayne Bowe 24
WR Stephone Paige 27 Mike Bradley 26
TE Jonathan Hayes 26 Tony Gonzalez 32
LT John Alt 26 Branden Albert 24
LG Rich Baldinger 29 Brian Waters 31
C Tom Baugh 25 Rudy Niswanger 26
RG Mark Adickes 27 Adrian Jones 27
RT Irv Eatman 27 Damion McIntosh 31
K Nick Lowery 32 Connor Barth 22
P Kelly Goodburn 26 Dustin Colquitt 26
KR/PR Kitrick Taylor 24 Kevin Robinson 24
FS Deron Cherry 29 Jarrad Page 24
SS Lloyd Burruss 31 Bernard Pollard 24
CB Albert Lewis 28 Brandon Flowers 22
CB Kevin Ross 26 Brandon Carr 22
OLB Jack Del Rio 25 Rocky Boiman 28
OLB Tim Cofield 25 Demorrio Williams 28
ILB Aaron Pearson 24 Derrick Johnson 26
ILB Dino Hackett 24
LDE Leonard Griffin 26 Tamba Hali 25
RDE Mike Bell 31 Turk McBride 23
DT/NT Bill Maas 26 Glenn Dorsey 23
DT/NT Tank Tyler 23

Notable Backups
QB Bill Kenney 33 QB Brodie Croyle 25
HB Herman Heard 27 HB Jamaal Charles 22
OT Brian Jozwiak 25 TE Brad Cottam 24
FB James Saxon 22 CB Patrick Surtain 32
DE Neil Smith 22 OLB Donnie Edwards 35
DE Jason Babin 28
DT Ron Edwards 29
DT Alphonso Boone 33
HB Kolby Smith 24
QB Damon Huard 35

Rain Man
01-14-2009, 06:26 PM
Sorry. Mark Bradley, not Mike.

Dave Lane
01-14-2009, 06:26 PM
Carls crew no doubt about it. No wonder he did well quickly.

Dave

rad
01-14-2009, 06:26 PM
Wow. I didn't know Del Rio was on the team back then.

patteeu
01-14-2009, 07:49 PM
I picked:

Scott's WR/TE

Carl's QB/HB/FB
Carl's DB
Carl's DL

Wash for everything else.

StcChief
01-14-2009, 07:54 PM
where is a real database with stats over 1st few years for real analysis.
F these spreadsheet comparisons.

MTG#10
01-14-2009, 07:55 PM
Carl's in a heartbeat.

whoman69
01-14-2009, 08:48 PM
I'm surprised to see the OL battle so close when that is the weakest point of the team currently. I see the only real battle to be the LBs which are pretty poor on both ends.
Pioli has some major holes to fill.

KCChiefsMan
01-14-2009, 09:30 PM
I think you just coined the new phrase for our new GM Rain Man. GREAT SCOTT!! that will apply in an excited or angry state of mind.

Rain Man
01-14-2009, 09:36 PM
I'm surprised to see the OL battle so close when that is the weakest point of the team currently. I see the only real battle to be the LBs which are pretty poor on both ends.
Pioli has some major holes to fill.


Me too. Carl got a pretty good set of bookend tackles who were young, while Scott is getting one tackle and one guard who's over 30.


The d-line surprises me because I'd much rather have Scott's d-line. Sure we had the no-sack thing this year, but I think there's talent on the line that can be developed, and they're all young.

I was curious how the kickers and the d-backs were going to turn out. The d-backs were worldbeaters when Carl came, but they were all in their prime as opposed to being the kids that Scott is getting. And Carl got a great but old kicker while Scott is getting a very good and young punter.

The offensive backfield is interesting, too. Carl got a misused great fullback and a serviceable but ancient QB, while Scott is getting a question mark at QB and a very good HB who may not be on the team come September.