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T-post Tom
01-14-2009, 11:39 PM
Nails...

Pioli reveals little in news conference
By JOE POSNANSKI
The Kansas City Star

There's one overwhelming goal that every new coach or manager or general manager has in his introductory news conference: Say nothing. New Chiefs general manager Scott Pioli met that goal on Wednesday. He surpassed it. He said less than nothing. He has a chance to be one of the great ones.

You may think I’m joking, but no, I’ve sat through enough introductory news conferences over the years to know that there is nothing at all to be gained by making promises or getting into specifics or revealing too much of the plan at the start. Carl Peterson may or may not have promised a Super Bowl in five years in his opening statement — there’s no record of him saying it — but it does not matter. The “Carl five-year plan” became part of his aura, and people never let him forget it.

Scott Pioli did not lay out a five-year plan or a 10-year plan or any plan at all. He did not guarantee anything but hard work. He did not mention a single Chiefs player’s name the entire news conference. He handled it all just right.

The truth is, Scott Pioli doesn’t know anything about the Chiefs yet. He hasn’t studied the tape. He hasn’t evaluated the players. He hasn’t spent time with coach-in-limbo Herm Edwards or any of his resume-preparing assistant coaches. He doesn’t know how much of a pain in the neck Larry Johnson plans to be or if Tony Gonzalez is going to plead for a trade or if Glenn Dorsey can thrive in a better defensive system or what the heck to do with quarterback Tyler Thigpen. He no doubt has some opinions about these things, but there’s no point in going public with those now. He might change his mind.

So, Wednesday’s news conference was what these big introductory news conferences always end up being … only more. It was a whole lot of nothing. Scott Pioli is not just the hottest GM prospect in the NFL. He’s not just the guy who helped build the three-time Super Bowl champion New England Patriots. He’s not just famous around the league for his work ethic and keen ability to evaluate players. He was also trained in the fine art of speaking without saying — by the Master Bill Belichick himself.

“We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly.

“I can promise you there will be no one in the league who will work harder,” Pioli said, a refreshing change from all those football coaches and executives who take extra vacation time.

“Everybody is going to know their role and do their job,” Pioli said, and “a challenge is a challenge,” and “I love challenges,” and “the key is getting it right,” and “Kansas City is a great community.”

And then there was what he said when asked whether he would fire Herm Edwards. He said that there is a process and he’s only starting that process because there are a lot of things that he has to process before the process will be done, so he would go through the process and process the information that needs to be processed and after the process had taken its course and he had processed everything processible, he would talk about the process …

It was a dazzling performance. When the news conference ended, we knew absolutely nothing more about Scott Pioli or his plan for the Chiefs than we had when it started. In some ways, we knew less than we did at the start. And that was the whole point.

We did pick up a few tidbits. Pioli seems like a nice enough guy. He has a 5-year-old daughter. He likes Italian food (and he will no doubt enjoy Garozzo’s and Osteria Il Centro, among others). He had a nine-hour interview with Chiefs owner Clark Hunt. He does not expect to be nearly as much of a public presence as Carl Peterson. He’s ready to go to work.

“I’m not here to collect talent,” he says. “I’m here to build a football team.”

There is every reason to believe Pioli will be successful. For one thing, he has already been successful, wildly successful, with the Patriots. For another, he has worked with a rather remarkable group of football winners — Belichick, of course, his father-in-law, Bill Parcells, Nick Saban, and so on. He was involved when the Baltimore Ravens drafted Ray Lewis, when the New York Jets went to the AFC championship game, and when the Patriots drafted Tom Brady in the sixth round. He has learned some things.

And on top of that, this is a good situation … and Pioli knows it. The Chiefs have a committed owner, a renovated stadium, a passionate fan base and millions of dollars of cap room. There just is not much more a football GM needs.

So I think this will work out great. Now, how exactly is it going to work? That’s all guesswork. I suspect he will want his own coach, though he did not say that. I suspect he will try to find a franchise quarterback, though he did not say that either. I suspect he will reorganize and restructure and modify the way the Kansas City Chiefs find players — I think the Chiefs will look and play a very different style from the one we have seen the last few years.

“There needs to be changes,” was all he would say about that, and that’s all that had to be said. It was just his first day. There are no answers yet. We have to wait for the process to unfold.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chiefs/story/981973.html

L.A. Chieffan
01-14-2009, 11:42 PM
why isn't there good italian food in KC?

i saw casino, there was wops all over the place.

T-post Tom
01-14-2009, 11:44 PM
why isn't there good italian food in KC?

i saw casino, there was wops all over the place.


What ya got against the 'Olive Garden'? :D
J/K:
Accurso's
Anthony's
Bice Bistro
Brio Tuscan Grill
Buca di Beppo
Bugatti's (Ameristar. Still there?)
Cafe Trio
Café Verona
Carmen's
Cascone's
Cinzetti's
Figlio
Garozzo's
Genovese
Il Trullo
Jasper's
Lidia's
Mezzaluna
Milano
NoRTH
Osteria
Paulo & Bill
Ricco's
V's
To name but a few.

Reerun_KC
01-14-2009, 11:47 PM
Good read!

I was over all impressed with the presser, disappointed that he didnt kick Herm in the nuts for all the misery we have endured... Hopefully that is soon...

I feel good about the hire and direction...

Fruit Ninja
01-14-2009, 11:53 PM
How this is a article i enjoyed reading and it told me absolutely nothing! hah

Ari Chi3fs
01-14-2009, 11:53 PM
I still can't believe we actually got Scott fucking Pioli. It's like fucking Christmas.

DaWolf
01-14-2009, 11:56 PM
I just watched the presser on the website, and I must say that I took the inference out of the news conference that Herm is done. They're not going to disrespect him by canning him day one, but it sounded an awful lot to me like Pioli knows what kind of a head coach he is looking for, and he's going to make sure he gets the right one. And for that guy to be Herm, well Herm sure as hell would need to wow him when they sit down to "talk." He disagreed with the contention that Edwards made about the team being a few players away, said there needed to be a lot of changes, and even had the owner saying that he's now going to keep "an open mind" in terms of Edwards' future, certainly no ringing endorsement from Clark. I give Herm two days max...

Tribal Warfare
01-14-2009, 11:58 PM
I still can't believe we actually got Scott fucking Pioli. It's like fucking Christmas.

No that was King Carl's firing, this is more like awesome birthday present

tk13
01-15-2009, 12:22 AM
Yeah, people who hang on the press conferences probably aren't gonna like this era of Chiefs football. I don't think anybody says less with more than the Patriots and Belichick. They don't give away anything.

HMc
01-15-2009, 12:45 AM
It amuses me that pro sports in the USA seem obsessed with press conferences. Whether its a post game press conference or about iverson missing practice or whatever.

We really don't have them here at all, and if we do they're only when something notable occurs rather then 2 or 3 of them per week. What exactly does one gain from the majority of them? Fack all, it seems to me, besides a quick injury update. The rest is mindless blabber.

I think they do them for coaching appointments of the national teams, but besides that the reporters just talk to the coach after training on the practice field.

HIChief
01-15-2009, 01:13 AM
There is a saying "Acta Non Verba" meaning deeds, not words. If that's all we get from Hunt, Pioli, and Co. together with as steady record of winning, I will be exstatic.

HemiEd
01-15-2009, 01:28 AM
LMAO LMAO I loved this line, exactly what I was thinking reading the News Conferance thread:

“We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly.

Mecca
01-15-2009, 01:34 AM
LMAO LMAO I loved this line, exactly what I was thinking reading the News Conferance thread:

“We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly.

The Chiefs have had their fair share of stupid, unruly and fragile players...they told us one of them was our franchise QB.

Count Zarth
01-15-2009, 01:34 AM
There's truth in that line, though.

Small: Croyle, Dorsey, Edwards
Weak: Hali
Stupid: Take your pick
Slow: Hali, Pollard, Bell, Law
Fragile: Croyle, Hali
Unruly: LJ

Mecca
01-15-2009, 01:36 AM
I think it'll be pretty interesting to see how many guys we were told were the future get cut.

Tribal Warfare
01-15-2009, 01:59 AM
I think it'll be pretty interesting to see how many guys we were told were the future get cut.

I'm starting to believe that DJ may get traded. I wonder if KC could get a low frist round pick or a high second round selection

Chiefs Pantalones
01-15-2009, 02:00 AM
Why do people keep saying Herm wasn't at the press conference? There were a couple shots of him there at the press conference on the 10 o'clock news. But he wasn't wearing Chiefs gear, just a pull over peachish fleece shirt and slacks. Definitely not dressed like a coach, but it was a press conference.

Count Zarth
01-15-2009, 02:07 AM
Why do people keep saying Herm wasn't at the press conference? There were a couple shots of him there at the press conference on the 10 o'clock news. But he wasn't wearing Chiefs gear, just a pull over peachish fleece shirt and slacks. Definitely not dressed like a coach, but it was a press conference.

Those were shots from Carl's presser.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-15-2009, 02:18 AM
Those were shots from Carl's presser.

Ugh fucking KC news stations. They made it seem like he was there. I believe it was KSHB because in their VOB (voice over b-roll) the script lead you to believe he was "watching."

Count Zarth
01-15-2009, 02:20 AM
Ugh fucking KC news stations. They made it seem like he was there. I believe it was KSHB because in their VOB (voice over b-roll) the script lead you to believe he was "watching."

You can do a lot with editing...

Chiefs Pantalones
01-15-2009, 02:22 AM
You can do a lot with editing...

I know, but that's false reporting. We are taught never to do that. Oh well, it's Jack Harry and his boy toy, it's to be expected lol

Count Zarth
01-15-2009, 02:27 AM
I know, but that's false reporting. We are taught never to do that. Oh well, it's Jack Harry and his boy toy, it's to be expected lol

It's not really reporting of any sort unless they said he was actually there.

We have to share libations in KC sometime dude I want to hear your media stories...

Chiefs Pantalones
01-15-2009, 02:35 AM
It's not really reporting of any sort unless they said he was actually there.

We have to share libations in KC sometime dude I want to hear your media stories...

No prob man that would be fun, not as much to hear on my side though yet lol, I graduate in May and getting my name out there now haha. I really liked MS this summer, I interned there. They had quite a few stories, all great guys too.

Chiefs Pantalones
01-15-2009, 02:36 AM
and they all dislike Harry, shocker haha.

InChiefsHell
01-15-2009, 05:32 AM
JoPo nails it again. I only heard a little on 810, the signal kinda sucks up here in Omaha, but it sounded like a typical presser to me.

Pioli: "Hello, my name is Scott Pioli, and I'm the new GM for the Kansas City Chiefs. That is all..."

Von Dumbass
01-15-2009, 06:25 AM
I still can't believe we actually got Scott ****ing Pioli. It's like ****ing Christmas.

ROFL He's not Bill Polian. His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular. The cheating, big moves in free agency (Moss, Thomas, Seau, Harrison, Welker... who played for peanuts so they had a shot to win) and Belicheat are what made the Pats successful, not Pioli.

People who leave the Pats normally do not have much success. I'm not pleased with the McDaniels hire AT ALL btw.

DaKCMan AP
01-15-2009, 06:28 AM
I'm starting to believe that DJ may get traded. I wonder if KC could get a low frist round pick or a high second round selection

You can't be serious.

Pasta Giant Meatball
01-15-2009, 06:28 AM
ROFL He's not Bill Polian. His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular. The cheating, big moves in free agency (Moss, Thomas, Seau, Harrison, Welker... who played for peanuts so they had a shot to win) and Belicheat are what made the Pats successful, not Pioli.

People who leave the Pats normally do not have much success. I'm not pleased with the McDaniels hire AT ALL btw.

Yeah, Dmitrioff did absolutely nothing in helping the Falcons in his 1st year there :rolleyes: You are talking coaches not front office.

crazycoffey
01-15-2009, 06:46 AM
ROFL He's not Bill Polian. His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular. The cheating, big moves in free agency (Moss, Thomas, Seau, Harrison, Welker... who played for peanuts so they had a shot to win) and Belicheat are what made the Pats successful, not Pioli.

People who leave the Pats normally do not have much success. I'm not pleased with the McDaniels hire AT ALL btw.


hmmm, I love a nice warm cup of IRONY in the morning....

Bwana
01-15-2009, 06:58 AM
[b]


hmmm, I love a nice warm cup of IRONY in the morning....

Yeah, no doubt.

Von Dumbass
01-15-2009, 07:01 AM
[B]


hmmm, I love a nice warm cup of IRONY in the morning....

We circumvented the salary cap in order for Bowlen to save money to build a new stadium. The Patriots knew everything that the defense was going to do before the ball was snapped. Big difference.

DaKCMan AP
01-15-2009, 07:06 AM
We circumvented the salary cap in order for Bowlen to save money to build a new stadium. The Patriots knew everything that the defense was going to do before the ball was snapped. Big difference.

Sure thing Captain Crisco.

crazycoffey
01-15-2009, 07:12 AM
We circumvented the salary cap in order for Bowlen to save money to build a new stadium. The Patriots knew everything that the defense was going to do before the ball was snapped. Big difference.

yeah, a new stadium and stock in non-stick aerosal spray....

Chief Henry
01-15-2009, 07:26 AM
I still can't believe we actually got Scott ****ing Pioli. It's like ****ing Christmas.

Heck, Its like 5 Christmas seasons all in one. Pinch me .

Tribal Warfare
01-15-2009, 07:40 AM
You can't be serious.


It's not out of the realm of possibilities

xbarretx
01-15-2009, 08:22 AM
No that was King Carl's firing, this is more like awesome birthday present

no its more likle getting to sleep with a very hot girl....who while making out with you lets you in on a little secret. that secret of course is that she has a twin sister who wants in on the action :p

thats my take on CP and Pioli :toast:

Reerun_KC
01-15-2009, 08:34 AM
no its more likle getting to sleep with a very hot girl....who while making out with you lets you in on a little secret. that secret of course is that she has a twin sister who wants in on the action :p

thats my take on CP and Pioli :toast:

But then the twin sister looks like HERM....

Good feelings gone...

DaKCMan AP
01-15-2009, 08:45 AM
It's not out of the realm of possibilities

No team is going to give a 1st or high 2nd round pick for Derrick Johnson. You are way overvaluing him.

Chief Faithful
01-15-2009, 08:54 AM
ROFL He's like Mike Shannahan. His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular.

There, I corrected it for you.

beach tribe
01-15-2009, 09:01 AM
We circumvented the salary cap in order for Bowlen to keep a team good enough to win the SB together, with a little help from crisco, and the refs.. The Patriots knew everything that the defense was going to do before the ball was snapped. Not really a Big difference. Both BIG TIME cheating.

Fixed it for ya.

There were some errors. Think nothing of it.

Tribal Warfare
01-15-2009, 09:12 AM
No team is going to give a 1st or high 2nd round pick for Derrick Johnson. You are way overvaluing him.

The guy is a solid but not great starter and he's young that's at least a second rounder

DaKCMan AP
01-15-2009, 09:19 AM
The guy is a solid but not great starter and he's young that's at least a second rounder

I think you'd be lucky to get a 3rd.

Mr. Laz
01-15-2009, 09:29 AM
wow ..... jopo should love pioli they have so much in common


JoPo can write an entire article without saying a dam thing either.

Darth CarlSatan
01-15-2009, 09:31 AM
ROFL He's not Bill Polian. His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular. The cheating, big moves in free agency (Moss, Thomas, Seau, Harrison, Welker... who played for peanuts so they had a shot to win) and Belicheat are what made the Pats successful, not Pioli.

People who leave the Pats normally do not have much success. I'm not pleased with the McDaniels hire AT ALL btw.

But..but...if he can correct/remove even 5 PERCENT of the douchieness displayed by Cutler on a weekly basis, that would be success, yes?

OnTheWarpath58
01-15-2009, 09:32 AM
I think you'd be lucky to get a 3rd.

Exactly.

Vilma (who is a better LB) went for a conditional 4th, which could become a 3rd.

Darth CarlSatan
01-15-2009, 09:35 AM
You can't be serious.

My first thought as well.

But then the twin sister looks like HERM....

Good feelings gone...

Reerun: "Can't....let it.....go.......must....keep....pounding....same statement....everyday until....Herm....Herm is gone....:D

I think you'd be lucky to get a 3rd.

This.

Skip Towne
01-15-2009, 02:04 PM
No team is going to give a 1st or high 2nd round pick for Derrick Johnson. You are way overvaluing him.

LB's lose a lot of value once you drive them off the showroom floor.

Darth CarlSatan
01-15-2009, 02:19 PM
LB's lose a lot of value once you drive them off the showroom floor.

Especially when they're just above "average".

HemiEd
01-15-2009, 02:19 PM
ROFL His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular. .

You DIDN"T say that, did you?ROFLROFL

Reerun_KC
01-15-2009, 02:20 PM
Reerun: "Can't....let it.....go.......must....keep....pounding....same statement....everyday until....Herm....Herm is gone....:D


ROFL


REP!

RippedmyFlesh
01-15-2009, 02:27 PM
“There needs to be changes,” was all he would say about that, and that’s all that had to be said.

Syracuse staff in late 80's...every person on staff went on to something bigger and better.
Scott Pioli ( Graduate asst. at time) KC GM (that felt great to type)
dick macpherson NE HC
randy edsell...UCONN HC
ivan fears NE Receivers
Joel Collier ( Graduate asst. at time) NE Secondary
George DeLeone TE Miami
Paul Pasqualoni DC Miami

Syracuse unlike the football big boys didn't have huge staffs in those days so all the salary went to about 6 coaches the rest grad asst. coaches who did more than at most schools.

That coaching staff at syracuse is better than what the chiefs have today.
So I am hoping while listening to herm scott thinks "that staff at syracuse when I was a kid is better than this mess"

StcChief
01-15-2009, 02:41 PM
LMAO LMAO I loved this line, exactly what I was thinking reading the News Conferance thread:

“We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly. some how I got that Impression too. ROFL LMAO
I think hit or miss we had some of those...

StcChief
01-15-2009, 02:48 PM
ROFL He's not Bill Polian. His teams had to cheat to win those SB's, and his drafts have not been spectacular. The cheating, big moves in free agency (Moss, Thomas, Seau, Harrison, Welker... who played for peanuts so they had a shot to win) and Belicheat are what made the Pats successful, not Pioli.

People who leave the Pats normally do not have much success. I'm not pleased with the McDaniels hire AT ALL btw.ROFL wow.
this from stick 'em, vegetable spray, salary cap cheatin' Donxs .....

Pot meat Kettle. guilty as charged.

Road Hog
01-15-2009, 03:49 PM
Was Jo PO refering to Pioli or Obama?

Darth CarlSatan
01-15-2009, 04:11 PM
Was Jo PO refering to Pioli or Obama?

Insert nasally, old-time cartoon trumpet here:

Whaamp-whaamp-whaamp whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa...:doh!::spock:

Dayze
01-15-2009, 04:26 PM
I think you'd be lucky to get a 3rd.

this.

Darth CarlSatan
01-15-2009, 06:15 PM
Did anybody else catch the part about "We don't care if a player has long hair, tattoos, whatever; we're gonna' take the right guy"?

FINALLY. Get some mega-talented guys who can simultaneously offend the Whine and Cheese crowd!

Pioli Stance APPROVED.

Stanley Nickels
10-28-2012, 06:09 PM
There's truth in that line, though.

Small: Croyle, Dorsey, Edwards
Weak: Hali
Stupid: Take your pick
Slow: Hali, Pollard, Bell, Law
Fragile: Croyle, Hali
Unruly: LJ

LOL

J Diddy
10-28-2012, 06:10 PM
LOL
I swear to God, quit bumping old fucking threads dumbass.

Stanley Nickels
10-28-2012, 06:14 PM
I swear to God, quit bumping old ****ing threads dumbass.

Well, since you put it that way, I'm done. Dick.