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Coach
01-18-2009, 03:06 PM
Looks like that I will be getting me a new computer tower soon. Sold my tower for $200.

What specs do I need to be looking for a gamer computer, yet, doesn't exceed $1,000 barrier? I would deftinaly like to have a 6GB or RAM or more, if possible.

Any suggestions/thoughts are welcomed.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-18-2009, 03:49 PM
For that price, you might look into one of the Core i7 systems.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280+1070545356&Configurator=&Subcategory=280&description=&Ntk=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220369
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148231
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148298
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131140

Might be a little over 1K, but that's a badass motherfucking rig

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-18-2009, 03:54 PM
+DVD Drive

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106263

Coach
01-18-2009, 07:37 PM
For that price, you might look into one of the Core i7 systems.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=2010200280+1070545356&Configurator=&Subcategory=280&description=&Ntk=&SpeTabStoreType=&srchInDesc=
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820220369
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129042
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148231
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148298
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131140

Might be a little over 1K, but that's a badass motherfucking rig

Personally, I'm looking for something that is already built, although I might take this into consideration. Basically, I want to make sure that I get it right this time, like I know I will have to upgrade my video card once I buy a new rig, as most of them go between 128 to 256. I just need to find out what type of a brand that can get my video card that can hold up to at least 2 G of video card.

Valiant
01-18-2009, 08:06 PM
Do you already have a nice gaming monitor?? 22: widescreen or bigger??? Needs to have imo a response rate of 4-5ms..

As for a computer..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9180584&type=product&id=1218046802235

Quad core, 6gigs(upgradeable to 8)memory, 640 gig HD, 64bit processor.. Only need 660 dollars..
Has Radeon HD 3200... I do not like Radeon and would get a nvidia 9600 or 9800 when on sale.. got mine for 100 dollars after rebate for 9600gts..

Also this is another one in which the memory is maxed out to 8gbs already..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9174261&type=product&id=1218044028199

Bit better Quad core, 8gigs, 750 gig HD, 64bit processor for 710 dollars..
same graphics card
only 50 bucks more..

Either one of these should last 4-5 years for most of the games if not longer..

Me, I usually buy OOP desktops in the 200-300 dollar range and add memory and a graphic card.. Why?? I do not need big harddrives or some of the other shit that jacks up the prices..

Basically I go into B&M stores and buy their year old merchandise (not open box, still unopened).. Of course this will be harder now with CC going out of business..

Coach
01-18-2009, 11:28 PM
Do you already have a nice gaming monitor?? 22: widescreen or bigger??? Needs to have imo a response rate of 4-5ms..

As for a computer..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9180584&type=product&id=1218046802235

Quad core, 6gigs(upgradeable to 8)memory, 640 gig HD, 64bit processor.. Only need 660 dollars..
Has Radeon HD 3200... I do not like Radeon and would get a nvidia 9600 or 9800 when on sale.. got mine for 100 dollars after rebate for 9600gts..

Also this is another one in which the memory is maxed out to 8gbs already..

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=9174261&type=product&id=1218044028199

Bit better Quad core, 8gigs, 750 gig HD, 64bit processor for 710 dollars..
same graphics card
only 50 bucks more..

Either one of these should last 4-5 years for most of the games if not longer..

Me, I usually buy OOP desktops in the 200-300 dollar range and add memory and a graphic card.. Why?? I do not need big harddrives or some of the other shit that jacks up the prices..

Basically I go into B&M stores and buy their year old merchandise (not open box, still unopened).. Of course this will be harder now with CC going out of business..

I have a Gateway 22" widescreen monitor. I just know that I would like for it to be loaded with RAM and Processor speed being the top priorities. I don't give a rats ass about the hard drive. Hell, even just 40 GB of Hard Drive is plenty enough for me.

The 2nd link you provided is the one I have been looking at for the time being. Another key thing is that I will have to ask those Geek Squad guys to see how much will it cost me extra, other than the upgrading my video card, is the transferring my files from my old hard drive to the new one.

Pants
01-19-2009, 02:08 AM
www.cyberpowerinc.com Build your own shit, they'll assemble it.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-19-2009, 03:01 AM
I have a Gateway 22" widescreen monitor. I just know that I would like for it to be loaded with RAM and Processor speed being the top priorities. I don't give a rats ass about the hard drive. Hell, even just 40 GB of Hard Drive is plenty enough for me.

The 2nd link you provided is the one I have been looking at for the time being. Another key thing is that I will have to ask those Geek Squad guys to see how much will it cost me extra, other than the upgrading my video card, is the transferring my files from my old hard drive to the new one.

File transfer costs 100 bucks, and it's just data, no programs. Just buy a flash drive.

As for installing a video card, they'll probably charge you 40 bucks, and the guy there will tell you that you need a new PSU as well.

Anyone who has made it through Jr. High would be able to install a video card if they just read the instructions.

Coach
01-19-2009, 10:19 AM
File transfer costs 100 bucks, and it's just data, no programs. Just buy a flash drive.

As for installing a video card, they'll probably charge you 40 bucks, and the guy there will tell you that you need a new PSU as well.

Anyone who has made it through Jr. High would be able to install a video card if they just read the instructions.

I already know how to install a video card, and I am looking for the PCI slot express video card anyways.

So it doesn't transfer over like EXE programs? I'm gonna be a little pissed that if it doesn't transfer over EXE programs that I need for certain expansion games that I installed.

I'm not worried about the PSU (I'm guessing you mean Power Supply?) as I'm gonna try to find one that is over 500W or so anyways.

kpic
01-19-2009, 12:38 PM
So it doesn't transfer over like EXE programs? I'm gonna be a little pissed that if it doesn't transfer over EXE programs that I need for certain expansion games that I installed.


The only way to do this is to image or clone your original HD to the new one. Otherwise you would have to reinstall everything - you can transfer just the files\folders with a flash drive though.

If you want to clone your old drive use Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost - I have used the Acronis program several times and it works fine for me.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-19-2009, 03:08 PM
The only way to do this is to image or clone your original HD to the new one. Otherwise you would have to reinstall everything - you can transfer just the files\folders with a flash drive though.

If you want to clone your old drive use Acronis True Image or Norton Ghost - I have used the Acronis program several times and it works fine for me.

One caveat....it can be a bitch to clone from IDE to SATA (if he is moving his OS). His old computer is more than likely IDE, and his new one will definitely have SATA HDDs.

Valiant
01-19-2009, 04:55 PM
I have a Gateway 22" widescreen monitor. I just know that I would like for it to be loaded with RAM and Processor speed being the top priorities. I don't give a rats ass about the hard drive. Hell, even just 40 GB of Hard Drive is plenty enough for me.

The 2nd link you provided is the one I have been looking at for the time being. Another key thing is that I will have to ask those Geek Squad guys to see how much will it cost me extra, other than the upgrading my video card, is the transferring my files from my old hard drive to the new one.

Just pay to do the information transfer if you do not know how.. Upgrading a video card takes a few minutes and is easy as hell.. Or shop around local shops and get a much cheaper price for the transfer..

Coach
01-19-2009, 05:19 PM
Just pay to do the information transfer if you do not know how.. Upgrading a video card takes a few minutes and is easy as hell.. Or shop around local shops and get a much cheaper price for the transfer..

I went to best buy and asked for more specs on that thing that you provided the links, and they told me that it was a 300W power supply. I was like, "Are you serious?"

pr_capone
01-19-2009, 05:24 PM
I'm not worried about the PSU (I'm guessing you mean Power Supply?) as I'm gonna try to find one that is over 500W or so anyways.

650+ and DON'T cheap out on the PSU. The PSU is probably the most underrated component of any PC yet one of the most important as a bad PSU can cause you migranes the likes of which you have never before experienced.

Look at reviews and stay with a name brand. Antec & Thermaltake being among the best in the business.

Valiant
01-19-2009, 06:04 PM
I went to best buy and asked for more specs on that thing that you provided the links, and they told me that it was a 300W power supply. I was like, "Are you serious?"

It depends on what Graphic Card you are going to get and what games you want to play.. I have a 9600gts and it does not need extra power.. You do not have to drop 500+ dollars on a good card to get great graphics..

Valiant
01-19-2009, 06:05 PM
650+ and DON'T cheap out on the PSU. The PSU is probably the most underrated component of any PC yet one of the most important as a bad PSU can cause you migranes the likes of which you have never before experienced.

Look at reviews and stay with a name brand. Antec & Thermaltake being among the best in the business.

I do agree with Antec though..

Imo it depends on what you play.. You do not need an amazing all around system for majority of the games.. Just for FPS in all their glory..

Coach
01-19-2009, 06:10 PM
I do agree with Antec though..

Imo it depends on what you play.. You do not need an amazing all around system for majority of the games.. Just for FPS in all their glory..

Well, a game like Grand Theft Auto SA and IV on my end, and the Wife plays The Sims 2.

Valiant
01-19-2009, 06:34 PM
Well, a game like Grand Theft Auto SA and IV on my end, and the Wife plays The Sims 2.

Honestly a newer computer in the 500-700 dollar range would be more then enough for you WITHOUT upgrades to it.. But said system would still give you the option to upgrade in the future..

pr_capone
01-19-2009, 06:58 PM
I have found, in my experience, that building a computer with upgrades in the future in mind is folly.

By the time you get around to upgrading your system, the top end upgrades that your computer can handle won't hold a candle to the system you could build for just a few $100 more.

Build the computer you want now... load it up to the gills as much as you can within your budget and do it all again in 5 years when you are ready for a new rig.

Valiant
01-19-2009, 08:26 PM
I have found, in my experience, that building a computer with upgrades in the future in mind is folly.

By the time you get around to upgrading your system, the top end upgrades that your computer can handle won't hold a candle to the system you could build for just a few $100 more.

Build the computer you want now... load it up to the gills as much as you can within your budget and do it all again in 5 years when you are ready for a new rig.

Depends.. I bought an acer OOP model for 200 dollars brand new, dual core Athlon 64 with one gig of memory.. Automatically upgraded to 4gig(only counts 3.8) for another 75 dollars and then about a year later got a graphic card for 100bucks after rebate..

I expect this machine to last me another 3-4 years for what I do.. Mainly WOW with my friends and pron..

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-19-2009, 09:16 PM
I have found, in my experience, that building a computer with upgrades in the future in mind is folly.

By the time you get around to upgrading your system, the top end upgrades that your computer can handle won't hold a candle to the system you could build for just a few $100 more.

Build the computer you want now... load it up to the gills as much as you can within your budget and do it all again in 5 years when you are ready for a new rig.

Not at all.

First of all, you don't have to pay for an OS and bloatware.

Secondly, and especially if you are a light user, the only thing you really have to pay for with another right is a mobo, CPU, and memory. Occasionally you might throw in another HD or new PSU, but you get much better quality components covered by longer warranties.

Right now I want to upgrade my HTPC. I already have the case, PSU, and HDD. So now, if I want to use it both as a machine to surf, and a blu-ray/upconverting DVD player, I can upgrade it for 300 bucks with all the necessary parts, plus, because I chose my mobo correctly, I'll have far more expansion opportunities down the line, and my computer is going to run at a much faster bus speed than one of comparable price from a B&M.

KCTitus
01-19-2009, 09:34 PM
Not at all.

First of all, you don't have to pay for an OS and bloatware.

Secondly, and especially if you are a light user, the only thing you really have to pay for with another right is a mobo, CPU, and memory. Occasionally you might throw in another HD or new PSU, but you get much better quality components covered by longer warranties.

Exactly...if you're a builder, you can replace pieces over time. My current case has seen about 4 different iterations of MB/CPU/RAM and one power supply upgrade. I replace the main MB/CPU/RAM components every 2-3 years. My last MB purchase in 2004 had SATA-1 on it and I didnt need it at the time, but my HD upgrade and DVD upgrade a year or two later I used it.

It's easier to buy something 'off the shelf'...I dont recommend building if you're not into it, because it takes some effort and some understanding of your individual components and their expandibility.

KC Jones
01-19-2009, 09:57 PM
www.cyberpowerinc.com Build your own shit, they'll assemble it.

I likey!

I hadn't seen that site before. I'm hoping for a new rig come late in the Spring (provided I can set enough $$$ aside). I will definitely be comparing the price/selection from there with what I can get at newegg. It's worth $50 or so in my mind for someone else to put it together and run it through a burn in cycle so I don't have to potentially dick around with returns.

I've been limping along my current PC for over 5 years now. :shake:

Coach
01-19-2009, 11:07 PM
Honestly a newer computer in the 500-700 dollar range would be more then enough for you WITHOUT upgrades to it.. But said system would still give you the option to upgrade in the future..

So in your opinion, a 8 GB of RAM, with a 256 Video Card on a 300W Power Supply is more than effecient?

What if I want to upgrade up to 512 or greater? Is that gonna hold with a 300W power supply?

Valiant
01-20-2009, 12:15 AM
So in your opinion, a 8 GB of RAM, with a 256 Video Card on a 300W Power Supply is more than effecient?

What if I want to upgrade up to 512 or greater? Is that gonna hold with a 300W power supply?

Well it will have to be a 64bit for 8gigs..

I have a 512ddr3 9600gts that is running on the 300w powersupply that came with the desktop.. It runs games amazingly from WOW to Battlefield 2142 to the latest unreal tournament..

The other guys in this thread are right also.. IF you know how to build your own, it will be cheaper for you to upgrade independent parts.. There are different ways to get what you want depending on how much work you want to do..

pr_capone
01-20-2009, 01:46 AM
So in your opinion, a 8 GB of RAM, with a 256 Video Card on a 300W Power Supply is more than effecient?

What if I want to upgrade up to 512 or greater? Is that gonna hold with a 300W power supply?

depends on the video card.

if you can swing DDR3 memory, then all the better.

You are also going to want to look at using PCI-E 2.0 X16 if you can. Make sure that the motherboard you choose is compatible with said Video Card.

People will differ on preference between nVidia and ATi. I personally prefer ATi and would suggest that if you go with an ATi chipset that you purchase a card made by a company called Sapphire.

I'm telling you though... you really want to look at something higher than 300w. The PSU is not something you want to skimp on and the prices for a higher watt PSU are not bad at all ATM.

For example:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341002

OCZ is a quality name brand and though the PSU costs $89.99 up front, there is a $40 mail in rebate (newegg has never failed to deliver on for me) which brings the price to a palatable $49.99 including free shipping.

You can look at:

http://educations.newegg.com/tool/psucalc/index.html

and enter the stats for the computer you wish to build. From there it will give you an idea of where abouts your system should require in wattage for flawless performace (from a power standpoint).

KC Jones
01-20-2009, 08:43 AM
The problem with power supplies is that cheap ones have a lot of noise and fluctuation in current they are providing. That can wreak havoc on your system. Being underpowered is also a problem, but based on a list of components you should be able to figure out how many watts you need. Modern processors are nothing close to being the power hungry hogs of 5-7 years ago. However the video cards are a full computer onto themselves these days so they are more demanding.

patteeu
01-20-2009, 11:20 AM
I have found, in my experience, that building a computer with upgrades in the future in mind is folly.

By the time you get around to upgrading your system, the top end upgrades that your computer can handle won't hold a candle to the system you could build for just a few $100 more.

Build the computer you want now... load it up to the gills as much as you can within your budget and do it all again in 5 years when you are ready for a new rig.

I agree completely. Especially if you are relatively frugal (meaning you don't plan to upgrade your video card everytime the next best thing comes along) and/or are not inclined to do a lot of work yourself.

I've upgraded a few things on my comp (video card, memory, added hard drives, added optical drives) but for the most part a user like Coach (based on his self description) probably shouldn't be too concerned about making a lot of modifications down the road. Buy an 80%-90% machine now (as opposed to paying a premium for 100% bleeding edge technology) and it should do fine for him for several years before it's time to replace it.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-20-2009, 01:33 PM
FWIW, the most important part of looking at a power supply is the current that it can support on the 12V rail. A lot of companies will pump up the current on the 5V rail to jack up the wattage and make it seem more powerful than what it is.

See how many amps it can handle over the 12V rail and how many rails is has. The higher, and the more rails, the better.

Pants
01-20-2009, 05:36 PM
I likey!

I hadn't seen that site before. I'm hoping for a new rig come late in the Spring (provided I can set enough $$$ aside). I will definitely be comparing the price/selection from there with what I can get at newegg. It's worth $50 or so in my mind for someone else to put it together and run it through a burn in cycle so I don't have to potentially dick around with returns.

I've been limping along my current PC for over 5 years now. :shake:

I just ordered a very nice rig from there for $828. I'll let you know how all that turns out. I'd love to choose all the part brands myself by shopping at newegg and assembling them myself like I did with this computer, but decided to go with professional work this time around.

Valiant
01-20-2009, 06:17 PM
I just ordered a very nice rig from there for $828. I'll let you know how all that turns out. I'd love to choose all the part brands myself by shopping at newegg and assembling them myself like I did with this computer, but decided to go with professional work this time around.

Cool, let us know how it is.. I have built a few computers now and I realized I hate being my on tech..

Ceej
01-20-2009, 08:11 PM
IT'S TIME, IT'S TIME. IT'S VADER TI-TI-TI-TIME!!!

Coach
01-20-2009, 08:14 PM
So what's the difference between a 400W Case and a 420W case?

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-20-2009, 09:06 PM
So what's the difference between a 400W Case and a 420W case?

Depends entirely on the specs of the given PSU within each case.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-20-2009, 09:31 PM
Here is the aforementioned Rig, Coach

Coach


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pr_capone
01-20-2009, 09:58 PM
I like it Hamas!

Any particular reason you went with the IDE optical drive or just the cheapest?

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-20-2009, 10:04 PM
I like it Hamas!

Any particular reason you went with the IDE optical drive or just the cheapest?

Actually, I wasn't paying attention. The SATA drive would be a dollar more. Probably a better option for him, anyway.

Coach
01-20-2009, 10:11 PM
Question is, if I order those, are those order to build, or is it where they ship it to me, where I have to assemble them?

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-20-2009, 10:14 PM
Question is, if I order those, are those order to build, or is it where they ship it to me, where I have to assemble them?

With NewEgg, you'd have to build it, although if you can put together assemble-by-letters furniture and use google, you can put together a computer.

Coach
01-20-2009, 11:53 PM
With NewEgg, you'd have to build it, although if you can put together assemble-by-letters furniture and use google, you can put together a computer.

I suppose building it isn't that hard, since I have done it before with junk part computers that my old man brought out from the trash (Worked for the sanitation department) but I guess I am a bit concerned on how the whole thing will work out (i.e. hard drive not recongizing the OS, the BIOS, etc etc.)

Pants
01-21-2009, 12:22 AM
Vista is much cheaper on Amazon (among other places).

pr_capone
01-21-2009, 06:11 AM
I suppose building it isn't that hard, since I have done it before with junk part computers that my old man brought out from the trash (Worked for the sanitation department) but I guess I am a bit concerned on how the whole thing will work out (i.e. hard drive not recongizing the OS, the BIOS, etc etc.)

Any more the whole thing is plug and play really.

As long as everything is plugged in proper, you really should have no problem at all.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-21-2009, 07:25 AM
Vista is much cheaper on Amazon (among other places).

Not according to Google Shopping. The only version of Vista that is cheaper is the 32 bit, which isn't going to give him what he wants, (6 gigs of operational RAM).

You may well be right, but I haven't seen it through the conventional channels. If he wants to find a torrent of Vista 64 that will pass WGA, that's his prerogative.

pr_capone
01-21-2009, 01:58 PM
Windows 7 Beta FTW

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/96o1ldjn7lmmvl6y0gsa.png

Coach
01-21-2009, 03:27 PM
Any more the whole thing is plug and play really.

As long as everything is plugged in proper, you really should have no problem at all.

Which brings up another question, will the cable parts come along with them? Like the cords that connects from the power supply to the motherboard? The Hard drive to the motherboard, or wherever the hell it goes?

pr_capone
01-21-2009, 03:41 PM
Which brings up another question, will the cable parts come along with them? Like the cords that connects from the power supply to the motherboard? The Hard drive to the motherboard, or wherever the hell it goes?

Yup... everything you need will come with your order.

You are still missing a hard drive from the list that Hamas put up, but aside from that you are ready to go.

If you like, I would be willing to send you my phone number via PM and you can call me when you get your components. I'll be happy to walk you through the process.

phisherman
01-21-2009, 04:22 PM
putting them together nowadays is easy as pie.

just a few years ago, i'd put a box together and have a heck of a time just getting to POST.

the last few boxes I've done have been quick and painless.

as far as assembling the pieces, the hardest part is connecting the darn case connectors to the tiny pins on the board(HD light, reset switch, power switch).

Baby Lee
01-21-2009, 04:28 PM
Anyone have a link for a strong HD cleaning and formatting program. I'd like a full format, data wipe and comprehensive sector testing, so my HDs are as close as possible to new

Coach
01-21-2009, 07:42 PM
Does a 8GB (4x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory beats out or not much difference to a 4GB (2x2GB) PC8500 DDR2/1066 Dual Channel Memory?

Coach
01-21-2009, 07:49 PM
Here's my thought on building this.... Will probably make more changes, since it's around 750.

CASE: Hot !!! Apevia X-Telstar Junior 420W Case w/ Temp Display and Fan Control (G Type Silver Color with Side-Window)
Neon Light Upgrade: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT (BLUE COLOR)
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Extra Case Cooling Fan (1 x Fan)
POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 680 Watts Power Supplies (Hush Power Supply SLI/CrossFire Ready)
CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 5000+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
COOLING FAN : AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
MOTHERBOARD: MSI K9N SLI-F V.2 NVIDIA nForce 570 LT SLI Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, & 7.1Audio
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
FREEBIES: None
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 2GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
VIDEO CARD 3: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
2nd Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
USB PORTABLE DRIVE: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (SILVER COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: NONE
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
MODEM: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE
MOUSE: NONE
Extra Thermal Display : NONE
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (SILVER COLOR)
Cable Wiring: None
Rounded Cable: None
VIDEO CAMERA: NONE
PRINTER: None
PRINTER CABLE: None
IEEE CARD: NONE
USB PORT: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
FLOPPY: NONE
OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Basic w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
FREEBIES: FREE! (Microsoft® Flight Simulator X Deluxe) Game
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

pr_capone
01-21-2009, 07:58 PM
Here's my thought on building this.... Will probably make more changes, since it's around 750.

CASE: Hot !!! Apevia X-Telstar Junior 420W Case w/ Temp Display and Fan Control (G Type Silver Color with Side-Window)
Neon Light Upgrade: 12in COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT (BLUE COLOR)
Extra Case Fan Upgrade: Extra Case Cooling Fan (1 x Fan)
POWER SUPPLY Upgrade: 680 Watts Power Supplies (Hush Power Supply SLI/CrossFire Ready)
CPU: AMD Athlon™ X2 5000+ Dual-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology
COOLING FAN : AMD ATHLON64 CERTIFIED CPU FAN & HEATSINK
MOTHERBOARD: MSI K9N SLI-F V.2 NVIDIA nForce 570 LT SLI Chipset DDR2/800 SATA RAID PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN, USB2.0, & 7.1Audio
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
FREEBIES: None
VIDEO CARD: NVIDIA GeForce 9600 GT 2GB 16X PCI Express (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO CARD 2: NONE
VIDEO CARD 3: NONE
LCD Monitor: NONE
2nd Monitor: NONE
HARD DRIVE: Single Hard Drive (250GB SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
Data Hard Drive: NONE
USB PORTABLE DRIVE: NONE
Optical Drive: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (SILVER COLOR)
Optical Drive 2: NONE
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: NONE
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
MODEM: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE
MOUSE: NONE
Extra Thermal Display : NONE
Wireless 802.11B/G Network Card: NONE
Flash Media Reader/Writer: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (SILVER COLOR)
Cable Wiring: None
Rounded Cable: None
VIDEO CAMERA: NONE
PRINTER: None
PRINTER CABLE: None
IEEE CARD: NONE
USB PORT: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
FLOPPY: NONE
OS: Microsoft® Windows Vista™ Home Basic w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
FREEBIES: FREE! (Microsoft® Flight Simulator X Deluxe) Game
Media Center Remote Control & TV Tuner: None
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT

Do not like it.


You are shorting yourself on processor power, hard drive size, and honestly... Apevia makes shitty products.

I worked for a computer company that used them and they were not worth the metal used to make them.

MSI is a tier 3 motherboard manufacturer and in 15 years of putting systems together, I have never had a successful MSI install. I have had more success with PCCHIPS than MSI and that is saying quite a bit.

Also, the motherboard does not support PCI-E 2.0 which means the video card they are installing in your system is not PCI-E 2.0 either. You will be doing yourself a disservice with that.

Other things to look at are the speed of the memory on the video card (ddr 2 vs ddr3) as well as the clock speed which is not listed. A video card with 1GB of DDR3 memory and better clock speeds will outpreform a card with 2GB of DDR2 memory.

Coach
01-21-2009, 09:08 PM
Do not like it.


You are shorting yourself on processor power, hard drive size, and honestly... Apevia makes shitty products.

I worked for a computer company that used them and they were not worth the metal used to make them.

MSI is a tier 3 motherboard manufacturer and in 15 years of putting systems together, I have never had a successful MSI install. I have had more success with PCCHIPS than MSI and that is saying quite a bit.

Also, the motherboard does not support PCI-E 2.0 which means the video card they are installing in your system is not PCI-E 2.0 either. You will be doing yourself a disservice with that.

Other things to look at are the speed of the memory on the video card (ddr 2 vs ddr3) as well as the clock speed which is not listed. A video card with 1GB of DDR3 memory and better clock speeds will outpreform a card with 2GB of DDR2 memory.

Check your smokes.

Coach
01-22-2009, 08:10 PM
www.cyberpowerinc.com Build your own shit, they'll assemble it.

I been toying around with that website, but I also went to buyxg.com, since they had the 580 Power Supply as listed cheaper than the one on cyberpowerinc.com.

However, I went to retailmenot.com and see for any coupons on there, and there is one that said MYSPACE

I typed it in the checkout (Just only checking to see if it worked) and man, suck me and fuck me, it worked. Knocked off 30 bucks off. Another thing I gotta keep in mind is that ground shipping for cyberpowerinc.com is free, unlike the xtremegear.com where you have to pay $65 for the ground shipping.

Although I typed in the buyxg.com into the retail me not, and typed in SUPER, and it was a 5% discount (37 dollars) plus free 1gb usb flash drive.

Goddammit, I hate hard decisions. :cuss: :D

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-22-2009, 09:42 PM
One more tip, Coach.

Wattage is overrated. Look at the amount of amperage each PSU can support on the 12V rail and how many rails each has. That will tell you the value of each PS.

Pants
01-23-2009, 11:13 AM
Coach, here's what I got for $800:

CAS: ($20 off Mail-in Rebate) NEW! Apevia X-Jupiter Jr. 420 Watts Case [+14] (S Type Black Color with Side-Panel 250mm UV LED Fan)
CASUPGRADE: NONE
CS_FAN: Extra Case Cooling Fan [+3] (3 x Fans [+6])
CPU: AMD Phenom(TM) X4 9950 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU w/ HyperTransport Technology [-66]
CD: (Special Price) LG 20X DVD+/-R/+/-RW + CD-R/RW DRIVE DUAL LAYER (BLACK COLOR)
CD2: NONE [-15]
CABLE: None
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
FREEBIE_CU1: FREE! CyberPower Multi-Purpose Carrying Briefcase ($19.99 Value)
FREEBIE_CU2: FREE! (Age of Conan) Game
FAN: XtremeGear Ultra Heatpipe Cool Copper Heatsink CPU Cooling Fan (Extreme Silent at 20dBA & Overclock Proof) [+8]
FREEBIE_RM: None
FLOPPY: NONE
FREEBIE_OS: FREE! (Microsoft(R) Flight Simulator X Deluxe) Game
HDD: High Performance with Data Security (RAID-1) with 2 Identical Hard Drives [+29] (250GB (250GBx2) SATA-II 3.0Gb/s 8MB Cache 7200RPM HDD)
HDD2: NONE
IEEE_CARD: NONE
KEYBOARD: NONE [-7]
MOUSE: NONE [-6]
MODEM: NONE
MONITOR: NONE
MONITOR2: NONE
MOTHERBOARD: Asus M3A78-EMH/HDMI AMD 780G Chipset DDR2/800 SATA PCI-Express MBoard w/GbLAN,USB2.0,&7.1Audio [-8]
MEMORY: 4GB (2x2GB) PC6400 DDR2/800 Dual Channel Memory (Corsair or Major Brand)
NETWORK: ONBOARD 10/100 NETWORK CARD
OS: Microsoft(R) Windows Vista(TM) Home Premium w/ Service Pack 1 (64-bit Edition)
PRO_WIRING: None
PRINTER: None
PRINTER_CABLE: None
POWERSUPPLY: 680 Watts Power Supplies [+20] (Hush Power Supply SLI/CrossFire Ready)
RUSH: NO; READY TO SHIP IN 5~10 BUSINESS DAYS
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO
SPEAKERS: NONE [-5]
TEMP: NONE
TVRC: None
USB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
USBHD: NONE
VIDEO: ATI Radeon HD 4850 PCI-E 16X 512MB Video Card (Major Brand Powered by ATI)
VIDEO2: NONE
VIDEO3: NONE
VIDEOCAMERA: NONE
WNC: PCI Wireless 802.11g 54Mbps Network Interface Card
_PRICE: (+828)
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Coach
01-23-2009, 12:13 PM
One more tip, Coach.

Wattage is overrated. Look at the amount of amperage each PSU can support on the 12V rail and how many rails each has. That will tell you the value of each PS.

How do one determine the amount of amperage on the 12v rail and the likes?

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-24-2009, 01:25 AM
How do one determine the amount of amperage on the 12v rail and the likes?

It will be listed on the PSU itself, and most high quality PSUs will list how much it can put through in the specs.

'Hamas' Jenkins
01-24-2009, 01:31 AM
Anyone have a link for a strong HD cleaning and formatting program. I'd like a full format, data wipe and comprehensive sector testing, so my HDs are as close as possible to new

Look for a Wipe Drive 5.0 torrent, commercial if possible.

Coach
01-24-2009, 07:13 AM
It will be listed on the PSU itself, and most high quality PSUs will list how much it can put through in the specs.

So, the more rails I got, the better? And if say I got a 2 12 rail and has 22 amps going through?

Coach
02-13-2009, 08:40 PM
Got the new rig in today. I gotta say, it's one bad ass motherfucker.

Now I got a little minor issue with the DVD-RW rom. When I put in a CD that is say, for example, Lenark 2400 Printer, to transfer the files from the CD to the Computer, it keeps giving me the "Write in Blank Disc" with the text written out in today's date.

It's kinda annoying. Anything to get that straightened out?

Coach
03-12-2009, 04:41 PM
Well, I finally decided to send that goddamned guarenteed piece of shit back to them.


To start it off, I sold my old rig to a friend of mine, as I was in a need to upgrade my rig to handle the gaming graphics. I have been shopping around locally and online to find the one that would suit my needs. I went to Ibuypower.com and thought they had a good deals on their computers. So I had it customized for me, and paid all that, yada, yada, yada, with a few helpful information from the guys on here.

It arrived and it was a awesome rig, packed with a bunch of power. Of course, 30 mins into the first day of firing up that baby, I got a blue screen of death (BSOD) and it suddenly restarted. I was thinking to myself "Okay, what the hell just happened here?" Naturally, I shrugged it off, and it was working again, and I resumed working on updating the computer, adding links on the favorates and such. Then 15 minutes later, the BSOD struck again. Now it got to a point where occasionally, 3-4 hours, the BSOD strikes, with giving me a error code of "Driver IQRL not equal or less" and all that garbage.

I finally called them up 2 days later after it arrived, and explained the situation to them, and they were pretty much no help to me, so I decided to send it back to them to have it repaired. I also told them specifically that the BSOD problem has occured well before I received it, as it would show that on the Problems and Diagnostics Report history. Not to mention that the cable outlet on the front of the computer (for headphones or microphones) didn't work, or the DVD-RW only works whenever it feels like it. I have specifically told them that to send me a goddamned piece of guarenteed piece of a shit that suffered blue screen of death 28 times within the past fucking 3 days, that's fucking sheer genius, and the fucking jokers that assembled this together deserved a fucking medal.


A week later, I called them up, and asked them how the progress was going, and they said that they were still working on it. I asked that when they are done with it, that I want the 30 day warranty extended to another 30 days. They said that it's not a problem. Of course, I said that I wanted it in writing. They refused to do so, so basically I told them to just keep the guarenteed piece of shit, and we will mail back the rest of their guarenteed piece of shit appliances (CD's, etc) and that we will be expecting our refund. We also called the credit card company to file a complaint, and we should expect our refund back.

So in short, going through without a computer for almost two weeks is just nearly committing suicide.

pr_capone
03-12-2009, 05:46 PM
Well, I finally decided to send that goddamned guarenteed piece of shit back to them.


To start it off, I sold my old rig to a friend of mine, as I was in a need to upgrade my rig to handle the gaming graphics. I have been shopping around locally and online to find the one that would suit my needs. I went to Ibuypower.com and thought they had a good deals on their computers. So I had it customized for me, and paid all that, yada, yada, yada, with a few helpful information from the guys on here.

It arrived and it was a awesome rig, packed with a bunch of power. Of course, 30 mins into the first day of firing up that baby, I got a blue screen of death (BSOD) and it suddenly restarted. I was thinking to myself "Okay, what the hell just happened here?" Naturally, I shrugged it off, and it was working again, and I resumed working on updating the computer, adding links on the favorates and such. Then 15 minutes later, the BSOD struck again. Now it got to a point where occasionally, 3-4 hours, the BSOD strikes, with giving me a error code of "Driver IQRL not equal or less" and all that garbage.

I finally called them up 2 days later after it arrived, and explained the situation to them, and they were pretty much no help to me, so I decided to send it back to them to have it repaired. I also told them specifically that the BSOD problem has occured well before I received it, as it would show that on the Problems and Diagnostics Report history. Not to mention that the cable outlet on the front of the computer (for headphones or microphones) didn't work, or the DVD-RW only works whenever it feels like it. I have specifically told them that to send me a goddamned piece of guarenteed piece of a shit that suffered blue screen of death 28 times within the past ****ing 3 days, that's ****ing sheer genius, and the ****ing jokers that assembled this together deserved a ****ing medal.


A week later, I called them up, and asked them how the progress was going, and they said that they were still working on it. I asked that when they are done with it, that I want the 30 day warranty extended to another 30 days. They said that it's not a problem. Of course, I said that I wanted it in writing. They refused to do so, so basically I told them to just keep the guarenteed piece of shit, and we will mail back the rest of their guarenteed piece of shit appliances (CD's, etc) and that we will be expecting our refund. We also called the credit card company to file a complaint, and we should expect our refund back.

So in short, going through without a computer for almost two weeks is just nearly committing suicide.

Well shit...

get that money back and hit me up via PM. We can continue our previous discussion.