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KChiefs1
01-23-2009, 08:50 PM
Mayock's top prospects at each position

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With 46 underclassmen having been granted special eligibility, here's a breakdown of the top five college football players at each position heading into the 2009 NFL Draft:


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<TABLE class=standard_table cellSpacing=1 cellPadding=2 width=610 align=left border=0><TBODY><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Mike Mayock's top prospects by position for the 2009 NFL Draft</TD></TR><TR><TH>Rank</TH><TH>Player</TH><TH>School</TH></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Quarterbacks</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>*Matthew Stafford</TD><TD>Georgia</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>*Mark Sanchez</TD><TD>Southern California</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>*Josh Freeman</TD><TD>Kansas State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Nate Davis</TD><TD>Ball State</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Rhett Bomar</TD><TD>Sam Houston State</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Running backs</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>*Chris Wells</TD><TD>Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>*Knowshon Moreno</TD><TD>Georgia</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>*LeSean McCoy</TD><TD>Pittsburgh</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>4


</TD><TD>*Donald Brown</TD><TD>Connecticut</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>5


</TD><TD>*Shonn Green</TD><TD>Iowa</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Fullback</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Tony Fiammetta</TD><TD>Syracuase</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Quinn Johnson</TD><TD>LSU</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Brannan Southerland</TD><TD>Georgia</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Wide receivers</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>*Michael Crabtree</TD><TD>Texas Tech</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>*Jeremy Maclin</TD><TD>Missouri</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>*Darrius Heyward-Bey</TD><TD>Maryland</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>4


</TD><TD>*Kenny Britt</TD><TD>Rutgers</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>5


</TD><TD>*Percy Harvin</TD><TD>Florida</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Tight ends</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Brandon Pettigrew</TD><TD>Oklahoma State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Cornelius Ingram</TD><TD>Florida</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>*James Casey</TD><TD>Rice</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Travis Beckum</TD><TD>Wisconsin</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Chase Coffman</TD><TD>Missouri</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Centers</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Eric Wood</TD><TD>Louisville</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Max Unger</TD><TD>Oregon</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Alex Mack</TD><TD>California</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>A.Q. Shipley</TD><TD>Penn State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Jonathan Luigs</TD><TD>Arkansas</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Guards</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Andy Levitre</TD><TD>Oregon State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Duke Robinson</TD><TD>Oklahoma</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Kraig Urbik</TD><TD>Wisconsin</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Herman Johnson</TD><TD>LSU</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Roger Allen</TD><TD>Missouri Western State</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Offensive tackles</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Jason Smith</TD><TD>Baylor</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Eugene Monroe</TD><TD>Virginia</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>3


</TD><TD>*Andre Smith</TD><TD>Alabama</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Michael Oher</TD><TD>Mississippi</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>5


</TD><TD>*Eben Britton</TD><TD>Arizona</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Defensive ends</TD></TR><TR><TH>Rk</TH><TH>Player</TH><TH>School</TH></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Brian Orakpo (can play OLB in 3-4)</TD><TD>Texas</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>*Everette Brown (OLB)</TD><TD>Florida State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Tyson Jackson</TD><TD>LSU</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>*Aaron Maybin (OLB)</TD><TD>Penn State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Larry English (OLB)</TD><TD>Northern Illinois</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Defensive tackles</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>B.J. Raji</TD><TD>Boston College</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Peria Jerry</TD><TD>Mississippi</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Ron Brace</TD><TD>Boston College</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Fili Moala</TD><TD>Southern California</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Evander 'Ziggy' Hood</TD><TD>Missouri</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Inside linebackers</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Rey Maualuga</TD><TD>Southern California</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>James Laurinaitis</TD><TD>Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Darry Beckwith</TD><TD>LSU</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Dannell Ellerbe</TD><TD>Georgia</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Jason Phillips</TD><TD>Texas Christian</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Outside linebackers</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Aaron Curry</TD><TD>Wake Forest</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>Brian Cushing</TD><TD>Southern California</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Clint Sintim</TD><TD>Virginia</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Clay Matthews</TD><TD>Southern California</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Marcus Freeman</TD><TD>Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Safeties</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Rashad Johnson</TD><TD>Alabama</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>William Moore</TD><TD>Missouri</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Louis Delmas</TD><TD>Western Michigan</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>Patrick Chung</TD><TD>Oregon</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>Michael Hamlin</TD><TD>Clemson</TD></TR><TR class=major_header><TD colSpan=4>Cornerbacks</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>1


</TD><TD>Malcolm Jenkins</TD><TD>Ohio State</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>2


</TD><TD>*Vontae Davis</TD><TD>Illinois</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>3


</TD><TD>Alphonso Smith</TD><TD>Wake Forest</TD></TR><TR class=ltblueback><TD>4


</TD><TD>*D.J. Moore</TD><TD>Vanderbilt</TD></TR><TR class=whiteback><TD>5


</TD><TD>*Sean Smith</TD><TD>Utah</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>


* -- underclassman granted special eligibility

aturnis
01-23-2009, 08:59 PM
Nice find.

bowener
01-23-2009, 09:21 PM
5 Roger Allen Missouri Western MissouriWOOT! PBJ

Roger is awesome. I went to school with him for a while, and my girlfriend hung out with him in high school, and he currently dates one of my hometown friends.

He is BY FAR one of the nicest guys you can meet off the field. Strong Christian for those that like that.

Funny story:

We were in bio at MOWest, sitting in the desks. In that class room the bottom of the desk is an "L" shape and it is bolted into the side of the concrete step (like a riser). About 2 minutes before class starts a loud "POP" lets out and the desk and Roger fall flat on the ground.

He gets up and looks around and then back at the teacher and says, "I am so sorry Dr. Seeger!"

He is a cool cat with quite a bit of talent, and great size.... very little fat.


http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/44/13/108000559/n108000559_30875892_3423.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30875836&id=108000559)

Home town kid too, went to Raytown!

DaKCMan AP
01-23-2009, 09:25 PM
CI getting some love!!! He'll have to run well at the combine and impress in workouts to prove he's recovered. If he's back he'll be a very nice weapon for someone's offense.

Pitt Gorilla
01-23-2009, 09:43 PM
Four Mizzou players. Nice.

SNR
01-23-2009, 10:00 PM
K guys, I'm feeling a mock draft coming on. How does this sound for the Chiefs' first three rounds?

1. Tony Fiammetta
2. Quinn Johnson
3. Brannan Southerland

ChiefsCountry
01-23-2009, 10:04 PM
Allen is a guy I had on the radar, didnt know he was ranked that high. Pioli had a couple of local type D2/I-AA players on the Patriots oline. So it could be possibility. Really he is built well for a guard - 6/4 315.

Direckshun
01-24-2009, 12:13 AM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/44/13/108000559/n108000559_30875892_3423.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30875836&id=108000559)

Holy shit.

googlegoogle
01-24-2009, 12:28 AM
OT list was eye opening.

Pablo
01-24-2009, 01:11 AM
Yeah, Allen has been getting props all year. He was ranked something like the #8 guard in the nation pre-season, and as a MWSU student, I'm hoping both he and Gijon have solid careers in the league.

bowener
01-24-2009, 02:13 AM
Holy shit.

Yeah. Big.

Yeah, Allen has been getting props all year. He was ranked something like the #8 guard in the nation pre-season, and as a MWSU student, I'm hoping both he and Gijon have solid careers in the league.

I think RA has a great chance at having a great career. He has the physical gifts for sure, and he has the heart and brain as well. He really is a great guy. I was amazed when I started talking to him how much he makes you think of a teddybear type of person, but on the field, he is a beast for sure.

ChiefsCountry
01-24-2009, 02:26 AM
I'm hoping both he and Gijon have solid careers in the league.

I played hoops against Robinson in high school.

suds79
01-24-2009, 09:02 AM
I found it very interesting that he didn't have Duke Robinson as the #1 Guard.

I'd be ecstatic if we somehow landed him in the 2nd if he fell.

Mr. Laz
01-24-2009, 09:52 AM
i'd rather have Coffman than Pettigrew



i think lack of speed might turn Pettigrew into Jason Dunn pt2 pretty quick. Being Jason Dunn isn't a bad thing, but you don't take a blocking tightend on Day 1 imo.

milkman
01-24-2009, 10:47 AM
I found it very interesting that he didn't have Duke Robinson as the #1 Guard.

I'd be ecstatic if we somehow landed him in the 2nd if he fell.

Stafford/Sanchez in the first.
Michael Johnson in the second.
Daniel Ellerbe in the third.
Antoine Caldwell/Fenuki Topou in the fourth

KChiefs1
01-24-2009, 10:50 AM
http://photos-e.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v255/44/13/108000559/n108000559_30875892_3423.jpg (http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=30875836&id=108000559)

Home town kid too, went to Raytown!


Looks like Mizzou, KU & KSU missed out on a good one.

DaKCMan AP
01-24-2009, 11:06 AM
Stafford/Sanchez in the first.
Michael Johnson in the second.
Daniel Ellerbe in the third.
Antoine Caldwell/Fenuki Topou in the fourth

Too good to be true.

The Bad Guy
01-24-2009, 02:54 PM
I'd love to get Cushing in the 2nd round.

I think the guy will be the steal of the draft.

theorangelion
01-24-2009, 06:26 PM
Michael Oher

DaneMcCloud
01-24-2009, 06:28 PM
I'd love to get Cushing in the 2nd round.

I think the guy will be the steal of the draft.

I don't think Cushing makes it much past the 20 spot.

He's going to crush at the Combines with his strength.

theorangelion
01-24-2009, 06:32 PM
Was it the steroids?

Mecca
01-25-2009, 01:11 AM
I found it very interesting that he didn't have Duke Robinson as the #1 Guard.

I'd be ecstatic if we somehow landed him in the 2nd if he fell.

I'm gonna be dead honest with you, I think there's a legit chance he won't be the 1st guard gone, he has alot of technique issues and things that got overlooked.

If he doesn't listen to coaching which may be the case since he still does the same things he's always done either that or OU doesn't coach the line very well..he will get abused at the next level if he does what he does now, he needs alot of work.

KChiefs1
01-26-2009, 07:40 PM
Loadholt proved at the Senior Bowl he couldn't play OT...can he make it as a G?

BigChiefFan
01-26-2009, 07:44 PM
We might be able pick up Michael Oher in the 2nd round.

I like the O-line prospects this year.

DaneMcCloud
01-26-2009, 07:48 PM
I'd take Unger, Wood and Caldwell before Robinson or Loadholt.

Probably Luigs, too.

ChiefsCountry
01-26-2009, 07:54 PM
Loadholt proved at the Senior Bowl he couldn't play OT

A few of us have been saying that for awhile now.

Mr. Laz
01-26-2009, 08:03 PM
We might be able pick up Michael Oher in the 2nd round.

I like the O-line prospects this year.
a strong draft for Oline this year imo

we should be able to get a decent guy in the 2nd round on the Oline.

maybe tackle if not probably center

the 2nd round is gonna have strong value this year too. i wish we had more picks in RD 2 this year.

RustShack
01-26-2009, 08:21 PM
I'm slightly confused about why some people love Unger while they hate Niswanger for being too tall... do some of you just not realize they are the same size?

OnTheWarpath58
01-26-2009, 08:31 PM
I'm slightly confused about why some people love Unger while they hate Niswanger for being too tall... do some of you just not realize they are the same size?

It's because people are full of shit.

People say Rudy is too tall to be a good center, then when I (and others) point out that half the league's starters - and most of the top-notch guys are all 6-4 - they say that extra inch makes the difference.

Bullshit.

He's just not very good.

Period.

Mr. Laz
01-26-2009, 08:40 PM
I'm slightly confused about why some people love Unger while they hate Niswanger for being too tall... do some of you just not realize they are the same size?
did someone mention Unger in this thread?

Chiefnj2
01-26-2009, 09:27 PM
People are putting too much emphasis on the Senior Bowl game.

Everyone knew that Loadholt doesn't have the footwork for the LOT in the NFL. However, you can't expect the kid to pick up the ROT position in a matter of days. If you can grab him in the late 2nd/early 3rd you do it and you groom him for the RT spot. All week people said that if he got his arms on people he would lock them up. Give him some time to learn the RT spot and he'll become a dominant tackle in time.

OnTheWarpath58
01-26-2009, 09:43 PM
People are putting too much emphasis on the Senior Bowl game.

Everyone knew that Loadholt doesn't have the footwork for the LOT in the NFL. However, you can't expect the kid to pick up the ROT position in a matter of days. If you can grab him in the late 2nd/early 3rd you do it and you groom him for the RT spot. All week people said that if he got his arms on people he would lock them up. Give him some time to learn the RT spot and he'll become a dominant tackle in time.

I understand your point, and don't necessarily disagree other than the "grooming" comment.

If you're taking a guy in the 2nd round, he better be able to step in and play.

You can afford to groom a kid you take in the later rounds.

Chiefnj2
01-26-2009, 09:49 PM
I understand your point, and don't necessarily disagree other than the "grooming" comment.

If you're taking a guy in the 2nd round, he better be able to step in and play.

You can afford to groom a kid you take in the later rounds.

You can't necessarily expect a kid who has played LOT in college to come right away and hold down the RT spot.

I also don't necessarily expect mid to late 2nd rounders to be able to come in and start right away. Neither Pollard nor McBride did. Wheatley (this years 2nd round pick of the Pats) didn't start, nor did Chad Jackson.

DaneMcCloud
01-26-2009, 09:53 PM
You can't necessarily expect a kid who has played LOT in college to come right away and hold down the RT spot.

I also don't necessarily expect mid to late 2nd rounders to be able to come in and start right away. Neither Pollard nor McBride did. Wheatley (this years 2nd round pick of the Pats) didn't start, nor did Chad Jackson.

Offensive line is much different than a "skill" position.

If you're taking a lineman at the #34 spot, he'd better be your opening day starter or you made a terrible mistake.

Carl Nicks was a 5th rounder last year and started 15 games for the most potent offense in the league.

The Chiefs could take o-lineman in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds and they would all be considered opening day starters.

Mecca
01-26-2009, 09:55 PM
Does anyone think Pollard or McBride were good picks....or Chad Jackson for that matter...and you're using the example of a team that went 16-0...

DaneMcCloud
01-26-2009, 09:56 PM
People are putting too much emphasis on the Senior Bowl game.



Why?

I fully disagree with this statement. The best seniors in the country are playing against each other and with each other. It's not practice. It's not fun. It's for MONEY. How many times did you hear the guys interviewed say it's about MONEY? Half a dozen? A dozen or more?

They're all very cognizant of the fact that they were auditioning for draft position and dollars. They played to the best of their abilities and for some, their stock rose. Others, it fell.

I'd take the Senior Bowl evaluations (and the East-West Shrine Bowl) over the Combine any day of the week.

Combine "monsters" rarely translate to the NFL.

DaneMcCloud
01-26-2009, 09:57 PM
Does anyone think Pollard or McBride were good picks....or Chad Jackson for that matter...and you're using the example of a team that went 16-0...

McBride went where he was supposed to go. He wasn't a reach.

He is playing out of position with the Chiefs. He's an inside guy, not a DE.

OnTheWarpath58
01-26-2009, 09:59 PM
You can't necessarily expect a kid who has played LOT in college to come right away and hold down the RT spot.

I also don't necessarily expect mid to late 2nd rounders to be able to come in and start right away. Neither Pollard nor McBride did. Wheatley (this years 2nd round pick of the Pats) didn't start, nor did Chad Jackson.

Not good examples at all. Two Carl Peterson picks and a 2nd rounder for a 16-0 team.

Offensive line is much different than a "skill" position.

If you're taking a lineman at the #34 spot, he'd better be your opening day starter or you made a terrible mistake.

Carl Nicks was a 5th rounder last year and started 15 games for the most potent offense in the league.

The Chiefs could take o-lineman in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds and they would all be considered opening day starters.

This.

Chiefnj2
01-26-2009, 10:16 PM
Why?

I fully disagree with this statement. The best seniors in the country are playing against each other and with each other. It's not practice. It's not fun. It's for MONEY. How many times did you hear the guys interviewed say it's about MONEY? Half a dozen? A dozen or more?

They're all very cognizant of the fact that they were auditioning for draft position and dollars. They played to the best of their abilities and for some, their stock rose. Others, it fell.

I'd take the Senior Bowl evaluations (and the East-West Shrine Bowl) over the Combine any day of the week.

Combine "monsters" rarely translate to the NFL.

The game is virtually meaningless which is why all the scouts head home before the game. They've never played together and the teams are limited as to what types of formations and plays they can run.

Chiefnj2
01-26-2009, 10:19 PM
Does anyone think Pollard or McBride were good picks....or Chad Jackson for that matter...and you're using the example of a team that went 16-0...

I'm using Pioli's picks. I also said if you could get Loadholt in the late 2nd/early 3rd. I used examples of where I said to draft the kid.

If you go back to the Pollard and McBride pick most people liked the picks at the time. People were enamored with the "bonecrusher" and McBride was regarded somewhat highly by guys like Gosselin.

OnTheWarpath58
01-26-2009, 10:22 PM
I'm using Pioli's picks. I also said if you could get Loadholt in the late 2nd/early 3rd. I used examples of where I said to draft the kid.

If you go back to the Pollard and McBride pick most people liked the picks at the time. People were enamored with the "bonecrusher" and McBride was regarded somewhat highly by guys like Gosselin.

Again, McBride went right where he was projected to go.

It's not his fault the Chiefs have mis-used him. Mis-using defensive players was apparently SOP around Arrowhead.

McBride, Hali, Dorsey, DJ and Pollard were all blatantly mis-used.

DaneMcCloud
01-26-2009, 11:01 PM
The game is virtually meaningless which is why all the scouts head home before the game. They've never played together and the teams are limited as to what types of formations and plays they can run.

Well then I guess they should just cancel the damn thing altogether, right?

DaneMcCloud
01-26-2009, 11:03 PM
I'm using Pioli's picks. I also said if you could get Loadholt in the late 2nd/early 3rd. I used examples of where I said to draft the kid.

If you go back to the Pollard and McBride pick most people liked the picks at the time. People were enamored with the "bonecrusher" and McBride was regarded somewhat highly by guys like Gosselin.

Gosselin also had Tank Tyler as a first rounder less than one month before the Draft.

The Chiefs haven't used there personnel properly for years.

I just hope the new staff gets it right.

suds79
01-27-2009, 12:25 PM
I've seen all I need to see from Loadholt.

IMO he's just a big guy who can't move his feet. So unless he's moved to Guard, I'd want no part of him.

There's a lot of good prospects it seems on the O-line this draft so I'd be okay if KC pass on him all together.

suds79
01-27-2009, 12:28 PM
Offensive line is much different than a "skill" position.

If you're taking a lineman at the #34 spot, he'd better be your opening day starter or you made a terrible mistake.

Carl Nicks was a 5th rounder last year and started 15 games for the most potent offense in the league.

The Chiefs could take o-lineman in the 2nd, 3rd and 4th rounds and they would all be considered opening day starters.

and

It's because people are full of shit.

People say Rudy is too tall to be a good center, then when I (and others) point out that half the league's starters - and most of the top-notch guys are all 6-4 - they say that extra inch makes the difference.

Bullshit.

He's just not very good.

Period.

:bravo: to both.

Mr. Laz
01-27-2009, 02:09 PM
I've seen all I need to see from Loadholt.

IMO he's just a big guy who can't move his feet. So unless he's moved to Guard, I'd want no part of him.

There's a lot of good prospects it seems on the O-line this draft so I'd be okay if KC pass on him all together.
i wonder how LoadHolt would do at NT?

Chiefnj2
01-27-2009, 02:12 PM
i wonder how LoadHolt would do at NT?

He probably can't get low enough consistently.