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Detoxing
01-27-2009, 10:59 AM
As some of you may know, i work at a "Hot-Rod" shop. I have the typical auto shop TV boss; short fuse, screams, yells and is overly confident, likes destroying stuff and so forth.

Anywho...when i started working here, (Maybe 3-4 years ago) he told me that we would do random drug screenings and that all of the computers were monitored (he said he had software such as Investigator and the like) and that he would be on the lookout.

Since then, i have yet to take a drug test and have become the backbone of this company. I run these computers as well, and i have yet to see any trace of spyware, nor would he know how to install it.

But, im still curious. If there is spyware, how could i find it? Help a Planet member remain a planet member.

Count Zarth
01-27-2009, 11:00 AM
Since then, i have yet to take a drug test and have become the backbone of this company.

You're irreplaceable, eh?

Simplex3
01-27-2009, 11:02 AM
Some of the really crappy ones will show up as a process in the task manager, but you have to know what you're looking for. The good ones won't, though. Even if he doesn't have monitoring software directly on the PC it doesn't stop him from seeing what you're doing on the Internet.

Phobia
01-27-2009, 11:02 AM
If he was spying on you I'd say you just flushed him out.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 11:03 AM
You're irreplaceable, eh?

You're not going to go rat on me are you? I didn't tell on you.....

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 11:05 AM
Some of the really crappy ones will show up as a process in the task manager, but you have to know what you're looking for. The good ones won't, though. Even if he doesn't have monitoring software directly on the PC it doesn't stop him from seeing what you're doing on the Internet.

I've looked under installed programs and didn't see anything. I've looked at the process and haven't seen anything abnormal.....but if you knew my boss, you wouldn't put it past him. the most paranoid man i've ever met in my life. but, i've been doing this for 3 years now....so...

Count Zarth
01-27-2009, 11:05 AM
You're not going to go rat on me are you? I didn't tell on you.....

Nah, I was just questioning the validity of your claim that you are the backbone of the company. A lot of people who become entrenched in their positions seem to think that way eventually. Hell, we're all probably guilty of it. But no one is irreplaceable. No one. Unless you work for free and give great blowjobs.

StcChief
01-27-2009, 11:06 AM
If he was spying on you I'd say you just flushed him out.ROFL at the Aretha Hat....

Why not check the server logs. If your running the computers.

kaplin42
01-27-2009, 11:08 AM
Depending on what the network infrastructure is, he could track where you are going on the interwebs, and for how long. He could see anything you are downloading also. There are a few ways, and none of them have to be installed on the local machine.

But he would have to have a serious setup for that, which to me doesn't sound like the case.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 11:08 AM
ROFL at the Aretha Hat....

Why not check the server logs. If your running the computers.

Sorry, let me re-phrase that. By running, i mean "maintain". I install all of the programs, maintain them, service them etc. Basic stuff that a lot of the car guys around here don't know how to do.

So when you say "Server Logs" it goes right over my head.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 11:10 AM
Nah, I was just questioning the validity of your claim that you are the backbone of the company. A lot of people who become entrenched in their positions seem to think that way eventually. Hell, we're all probably guilty of it. But no one is irreplaceable. No one. Unless you work for free and give great blowjobs.

I know a lot of stuff about the company that not even he knows. Yeah, i could get fired, but with the relationship we have, and as much as he depends on me for everything, i doubt it. It would take a shit load of training to replace me, and he hates training people...

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 11:12 AM
Depending on what the network infrastructure is, he could track where you are going on the interwebs, and for how long. He could see anything you are downloading also. There are a few ways, and none of them have to be installed on the local machine.

But he would have to have a serious setup for that, which to me doesn't sound like the case.

Well, we have about 5 machines in the network. I know all of the work email accounts get CC'd to his email...But i don't think we have anything radical.

Toadkiller
01-27-2009, 11:17 AM
If he is any sort of computer literate then you wouldn't know if he had software/hardware spying on you.

kaplin42
01-27-2009, 11:19 AM
Well, we have about 5 machines in the network. I know all of the work email accounts get CC'd to his email...But i don't think we have anything radical.

He would have to have a Server acting as a proxy server, or some sort of firewall basically. If you arent running any of that, chances are pretty nil. Unless the account that you use is not the admin account, there could be some ways to do it using an admin account on the local machine with some very specific software, but the account the rest of the shop uses would have to be just a user account basically.

And even then, you would probably see the software in the add/remove programs.

StcChief
01-27-2009, 11:35 AM
you could look around on the machines but he might get wise to it (if he is logging things)....

the fact he hasn't thrown a random drug test (any suspects?).... makes me wonder.

May monitor internet history from the machines/browser? (are you looking at PR0n websites?)....

sounds like the (blind cc) keeps you honest in not sending pr0n jpg files etc around.

Brock
01-27-2009, 11:38 AM
sounds like a blowhard with no know how.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 12:00 PM
you could look around on the machines but he might get wise to it (if he is logging things)....

the fact he hasn't thrown a random drug test (any suspects?).... makes me wonder.

May monitor internet history from the machines/browser? (are you looking at PR0n websites?)....

sounds like the (blind cc) keeps you honest in not sending pr0n jpg files etc around.

I think he probably monitors (or at least tries to) our web history through our browsers, but i delete it every time i view something that's iffy. He knows that I frequent the Planet, but he doesn't know how frequently i frequent the planet, or Nickscipio, or any of the websites in the adult link thread....

EyePod
01-27-2009, 12:00 PM
sounds like a blowhard with no know how.

Right, I figure that he was just trying to scare you. And it seemed to work....

Are you looking up smiley face porn while at work?

:hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump:

EyePod
01-27-2009, 12:01 PM
I think he probably monitors (or at least tries to) our web history through our browsers, but i delete it every time i view something that's iffy. He knows that I frequent the Planet, but he doesn't know how frequently i frequent the planet, or Nickscipio, or any of the websites in the adult link thread....

LOL. Good thing I just googled Nickscipio and didn't open the first page.... I'm in my school's library... hahaha that'd be something.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 12:04 PM
He would have to have a Server acting as a proxy server, or some sort of firewall basically. If you arent running any of that, chances are pretty nil. Unless the account that you use is not the admin account, there could be some ways to do it using an admin account on the local machine with some very specific software, but the account the rest of the shop uses would have to be just a user account basically.

And even then, you would probably see the software in the add/remove programs.

I KNOW he doesn't know how to set this stuff up, but he is close friends with a computer technician that owns his own business managing networks and various other programs and computer related stuff for small companies. That's why im worried.

You mentioned a specific firewall. We have DSL, and he is always saying that there is a firewall on the DSL modem itself, and if we reset it, it could fuck up the firewall. Could that be it or something else?

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 12:06 PM
Right, I figure that he was just trying to scare you. And it seemed to work....

Are you looking up smiley face porn while at work?

:hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump::hump:

That's what i figured. He blows a lot of hot air. But, since he's close friends with the computer techi, it makes me wonder.

Maybe he just knows OF it, but doesn't have it.

BigRichard
01-27-2009, 12:18 PM
http://majorgeeks.com/download3155.html

Here is a link to a download for Hijackthis. If you run this it will show you every process that runs at startup. You can check the ones you want to remove if there is anything that you don't want to be running but I don't think that is what you are trying to do. If you want, run it and post the list here. I can look at it to tell you if anything looks out of the ordinary. That will not tell you if there are monitoring the actual network though. That can get more complicated and I don't think he would be doing that.

MIAdragon
01-27-2009, 12:24 PM
Im into Hot Rods, where do you work?

jidar
01-27-2009, 12:31 PM
nail his wife, take pictures, and then email the pictures from the office.

BigRichard
01-27-2009, 12:35 PM
nail his wife, take pictures, and then email the pictures from the office.

ROFL Yeah, you would definetly find out if he was monitoring ya that way.

Jilly
01-27-2009, 12:43 PM
work with old people and the problem is solved

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 12:51 PM
Im into Hot Rods, where do you work?

I would tell you, but after that whole Claythan deal, I'm a little reluctant to post that information. We're very, very well known in our community and I Don't want some of the stuff i post on here leaking out to our customers or haters (god knows there's enough haters out there). I know one of the members here has been to our website and didn't even know that i worked there and was a member here as well.

But, i'll give you some information since i'm very proud of my job and what we do. We build early model Mustangs & fords, 64-70. 150K and up cars for, obviously, affluent men. We also sell specialty aftermarket performance parts.

We just landed another contract with a pitcher who played for the phillies when they won the championship. He pulled up with some UFC fighter, i forget the UFC fighters name, but the baseball player claims he's pretty big. I don't follow UFC so i don't know. I guess they're opening a gym around here somewhere. I would tell you the pitchers name, but I'm not sure if that's a conflict of interest or not.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 12:52 PM
http://majorgeeks.com/download3155.html

Here is a link to a download for Hijackthis. If you run this it will show you every process that runs at startup. You can check the ones you want to remove if there is anything that you don't want to be running but I don't think that is what you are trying to do. If you want, run it and post the list here. I can look at it to tell you if anything looks out of the ordinary. That will not tell you if there are monitoring the actual network though. That can get more complicated and I don't think he would be doing that.

Thanks, i had it on my home PC, i'll download it onto this.

kaplin42
01-27-2009, 12:55 PM
I KNOW he doesn't know how to set this stuff up, but he is close friends with a computer technician that owns his own business managing networks and various other programs and computer related stuff for small companies. That's why im worried.

You mentioned a specific firewall. We have DSL, and he is always saying that there is a firewall on the DSL modem itself, and if we reset it, it could **** up the firewall. Could that be it or something else?

While im not saying tha no way, no how is that happening, the chances of it are very unlikely. By firewall i am talking about a 3rd party piece of hardware that is rather expensive. And if you are one that does most of the care for the network, then you would probaby know of this device.

RippedmyFlesh
01-27-2009, 01:11 PM
I don't know how much time you spend browsing but wouldn't you think after 3years if he was going to do something about it he would have? You know better than anyone else how long you are on and if he knew that and would have a cow you would think he would have said something in the past.

JASONSAUTO
01-27-2009, 02:50 PM
Nah, I was just questioning the validity of your claim that you are the backbone of the company. A lot of people who become entrenched in their positions seem to think that way eventually. Hell, we're all probably guilty of it. But no one is irreplaceable. No one. Unless you work for free and give great blowjobs.

i felt that exact way the boss didnt, i quit, six months later i walked back in as the owner. guess i wasnt replaceable.

38yrsfan
01-27-2009, 04:04 PM
a couple of options for web surfing in private:

http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/

http://www.anonymizer.com/

http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 04:08 PM
a couple of options for web surfing in private:

http://www.megaproxy.com/freesurf/

http://www.anonymizer.com/

http://anonymouse.org/anonwww.html

wow, nice. Thanks!

Iowanian
01-27-2009, 04:10 PM
This is very easy to check.

1.Take a photo of his head and torso.
2. Insert the .jpg into any photo editing software.
3. Stretch the photo into the shape of an erect Harry and the Hangdowns.
4. Set newly created photo as "background".
5. Wait.

38yrsfan
01-27-2009, 04:11 PM
Some neat stuff here ... I've used some of them .....

http://www.nonags.com/nonags/antispyware.html

Iowanian
01-27-2009, 04:14 PM
If he is monitoring, and detects that you're using proxy servers, its not like he wouldn't suspect you were viewing stuff you aren't supposed to be viewing.

Count Zarth
01-27-2009, 04:15 PM
i felt that exact way the boss didnt, i quit, six months later i walked back in as the owner. guess i wasnt replaceable.

Well, I hope you did a pelvic thrust.

Buck
01-27-2009, 04:28 PM
I would tell you, but after that whole Claythan deal, I'm a little reluctant to post that information. We're very, very well known in our community and I Don't want some of the stuff i post on here leaking out to our customers or haters (god knows there's enough haters out there). I know one of the members here has been to our website and didn't even know that i worked there and was a member here as well.

But, i'll give you some information since i'm very proud of my job and what we do. We build early model Mustangs & fords, 64-70. 150K and up cars for, obviously, affluent men. We also sell specialty aftermarket performance parts.

We just landed another contract with a pitcher who played for the phillies when they won the championship. He pulled up with some UFC fighter, i forget the UFC fighters name, but the baseball player claims he's pretty big. I don't follow UFC so i don't know. I guess they're opening a gym around here somewhere. I would tell you the pitchers name, but I'm not sure if that's a conflict of interest or not.

I have a sneaking suspicion of who the said Phillies pitcher is. But thats just because I know who is a local guy that plays for the Phillies.

WilliamTheIrish
01-27-2009, 04:37 PM
Dr. J,

Why risk it? Your situation sounds like a no brainer to me. It seems you enjoy your job, work for a guy who, for all his warts, likes you as an employee. You live in the greatest city in the country (IMO) and the dude has entrusted you with great responsibility.

Sounds like a you have a great thing going, J. In this economy, why risk it?

Buck
01-27-2009, 04:38 PM
P.S. I think that if you put the name of a MLB player or UFC fighter on here, it wont really get that high on the Google Index, FWIW.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 04:41 PM
Dr. J,

Why risk it? Your situation sounds like a no brainer to me. It seems you enjoy your job, work for a guy who, for all his warts, likes you as an employee. You live in the greatest city in the country (IMO) and the dude has entrusted you with great responsibility.

Sounds like a you have a great thing going, J. In this economy, why risk it?

Sometimes there is downtime and i like to catch up on all things Chiefs. Or tits. Or i check the forums between calls or when im on hold

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 04:42 PM
I have a sneaking suspicion of who the said Phillies pitcher is. But thats just because I know who is a local guy that plays for the Phillies.

try to guess

JASONSAUTO
01-27-2009, 04:43 PM
Well, I hope you did a pelvic thrust.

ROFL no but i had worked for this asshole for 9 years done everything asked of me and because we lived in the "country" he wouldnt pay. hell i was making less after 9 years than i made at 19 in kc not to mention what i made when i left kc. he always said that i had NO IDEA what kind of money the place lost. i did have an idea what it made i was closer to being right than he was. guess thats what you get for letting your wife run the books:D

btlook1
01-27-2009, 04:43 PM
Nah, I was just questioning the validity of your claim that you are the backbone of the company. A lot of people who become entrenched in their positions seem to think that way eventually. Hell, we're all probably guilty of it. But no one is irreplaceable. No one. Unless you work for free and give great blowjobs.

I hate to be a smart a$$ here claythan....have you ever worked anywhere besides moms basement and Burger King?

Buck
01-27-2009, 04:46 PM
try to guess

Well Cole Hamels and Adam Eaton have ties to San Diego.

JASONSAUTO
01-27-2009, 04:46 PM
I hate to be a smart a$$ here claythan....have you ever worked anywhere besides moms basement and Burger King?

ROFL i wondered the same thing, wpi would be gone if not for clay

JASONSAUTO
01-27-2009, 04:47 PM
Sometimes there is downtime and i like to catch up on all things Chiefs.. Or i check the forums between calls or when im on hold

i do the very same thing while ordering parts

Count Zarth
01-27-2009, 04:52 PM
I hate to be a smart a$$ here claythan....have you ever worked anywhere besides moms basement and Burger King?

Yes.

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 05:00 PM
i do the very same thing while ordering parts

It's cuz sometimes they take so damn long.....

Detoxing
01-27-2009, 05:03 PM
Well Cole Hamels and Adam Eaton have ties to San Diego.

Nope. I think he actually lives near L.A, drove down to visit us in his new Viper. Rich bastard. We're also building a car for a stunt double. Ever seen the opening stunt in the movie Hot Rod? The one where he eats shit on the edge of the ramp? We're building that guys car too. We have some VERY interesting clients.

Braincase
01-27-2009, 06:05 PM
Not a worry. The PC I use at work is my personal property. My notebook from work is never on the company network unless I'm installing images.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-27-2009, 06:34 PM
Nah, I was just questioning the validity of your claim that you are the backbone of the company. A lot of people who become entrenched in their positions seem to think that way eventually. Hell, we're all probably guilty of it. But no one is irreplaceable. No one. Unless you work for free and give great blowjobs.

Might be the best NFP I've ever read of yours. It's the troof.

PastorMikH
01-27-2009, 06:42 PM
I know a lot of stuff about the company that not even he knows. Yeah, i could get fired, but with the relationship we have, and as much as he depends on me for everything, i doubt it. It would take a shit load of training to replace me, and he hates training people...



So, if you are this close to the guy, ask him what programs he's using, you wouldn't mind putting it on your home PC and was just wondering if he could recommend it.

Over-Head
01-27-2009, 06:43 PM
But no one is irreplaceable. No one. Unless you work for free and give great blowjobs.
The poster boy of work ethic speaks from experience:rolleyes: