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FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:42 PM
On the way home tonight I was listening to the new 101.1 FM ESPN sports talk radio here in St. Louis. A local writer for a "Chiefs" website (I believe he said mychiefshome.com but I can't be sure) claimed that Hunt was in NC interviewing Cowher and that the Chiefs were planning to make the announcement next week.

Of course ESPN questioned him about it and he said that the main writer for their website was going on record saying Cowher would be the next HC.

Take it for what its worth. Someone on here may be able to pull up the audio on the ESPN segment. It was around 515 pm and the segment was called "Just Saying."

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:43 PM
Specifically, the announcement was claimed to be scheduled for Wednesday.

Reaper16
01-29-2009, 04:44 PM
THE DEAL IS DONE

pr_capone
01-29-2009, 04:44 PM
THE DEAL IS DONE

dammit... you beat me to it. lol

dirk digler
01-29-2009, 04:45 PM
THE DEAL IS DONE

LMAO

Deberg_1990
01-29-2009, 04:45 PM
I wont believe it until Athan reports it.

Scorp
01-29-2009, 04:45 PM
The chin is coming!

Pestilence
01-29-2009, 04:45 PM
THE DEAL IS DONE

THE DEAL IS DONE is the new PRINT EM!

Reaper16
01-29-2009, 04:46 PM
THE DEAL IS DONE is the new PRINT EM!
It's certainly the phrase du jour this offseason.

Bugeater
01-29-2009, 04:46 PM
Okay gang,

doomy3
01-29-2009, 04:46 PM
the site is www.homeofthechiefs.com

Reaper16
01-29-2009, 04:49 PM
the site is www.homeofthechiefs.com (http://www.homeofthechiefs.com)
They have a forum. With members.

How unexpected.

seaofred
01-29-2009, 04:51 PM
Why would Hunt be interviewing him? Wouldn't it be Pioli?

Bowser
01-29-2009, 04:51 PM
He must be coming to be defensive coordinator, because I heard that Shanahan is going to be our next head coach.

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:51 PM
the site is www.homeofthechiefs.com
Thanks, I couldn't remember exactly. Anyway, I know Cowher has supposedly suggested that he wouldn't coach until 2010 or 2011 but having Gailey here as the OC certainly coincides with other postings on here that Gailey is his preferred OC.

milkman
01-29-2009, 04:51 PM
They have a forum. With members.

How unexpected.

I hope one of those forum members was smart enough to ask why the hell Pioli wasn't doing the interview?

OnTheWarpath58
01-29-2009, 04:52 PM
Late Friday night on 105.7 the Fan in Baltimore, host Ken Weinman was giving Esiason the business over his Cowher comment, and Esiason’s only answer was, "stay tuned".

:rolleyes:

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:52 PM
Why would Hunt be interviewing him? Wouldn't it be Pioli?

The guy sounded like he was shooting from the hip (seemed nervous to reveal any information) but after ESPN prodded him he said the owner of the Chiefs was interviewing Cowher.

Fritz88
01-29-2009, 04:52 PM
If that happens. I think I am going to quit everything I do and be Hunt's bitch.

milkman
01-29-2009, 04:52 PM
He must be coming to be defensive coordinator, because I heard that Shanahan is going to be our next head coach.

Wait, Shanahan must be the QB coach, cause Gailey is the OC and Haley is supposed to be the next HC.

Thig Lyfe
01-29-2009, 04:53 PM
It's certainly the phrase du jour this offseason.

I prefer "Okay gang,"

OnTheWarpath58
01-29-2009, 04:53 PM
At least the guy understands the need for a franchise QB.

Fritz88
01-29-2009, 04:53 PM
I hope one of those forum members was smart enough to ask why the hell Pioli wasn't doing the interview?

ROFL

milkman
01-29-2009, 04:54 PM
I prefer "Okay gang,"

I prefer "Fuck you", but that's just me.

Bowser
01-29-2009, 04:54 PM
Wait, Shanahan must be the QB coach, cause Gailey is the OC and Haley is supposed to be the next HC.

Man, Clark is the shit.

Fritz88
01-29-2009, 04:54 PM
I prefer "Okay gang,"

The Okay Gang dude was right after all. We did hire Pioli, so hopefully this one turns to be true as well.

Buck
01-29-2009, 04:55 PM
Anybody want to start a board war?

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:55 PM
At least the guy understands the need for a franchise QB.
He also said that the Chiefs would not be drafting a QB with the 3rd overall pick. That there were other more pressing needs. Apparently this guy has some inside scoop. At least he did or thought he did until he let this out of the bag. Assuming it is true of course.

Buck
01-29-2009, 04:56 PM
Look at Warthog's Avatar

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t220/drebretuke/avatar6655_5gif.jpg

Kick his ass MIADragon

Fritz88
01-29-2009, 04:56 PM
Wait, Shanahan must be the QB coach, cause Gailey is the OC and Haley is supposed to be the next HC.

This thread has the potential.

Reaper16
01-29-2009, 04:57 PM
I prefer "Okay gang,"
"Okay gang" really needs the follow-through of text to reach its peak performance.

Buck
01-29-2009, 04:57 PM
boo @ milkman for posting there...lol

Also you, BrooklynChiefsFan

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:57 PM
Look at Warthog's Avatar

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t220/drebretuke/avatar6655_5gif.jpg

Kick his ass MIADragonI'm too busy looking at the chic pic in yours and Scorp:D

Reaper16
01-29-2009, 04:58 PM
That forum is awful. Everyone there is afraid of drafting a QB.

Bowser
01-29-2009, 04:59 PM
That forum is awful. Everyone there is afraid of drafting a QB.

LMAO

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 04:59 PM
The guy claimed that their website would provide "facts" to support their claim regarding Cowher.

Reaper16
01-29-2009, 04:59 PM
Look at Warthog's Avatar

http://i161.photobucket.com/albums/t220/drebretuke/avatar6655_5gif.jpg

Kick his ass MIADragon
I saw like 5 avatars stolen from CP.

Frankie
01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
the site is www.homeofthechiefs.com

There's also a sit called Chiefshome.com. BTW I checked their "Kansas City Chiefs Discussion " forum and it has 19 threads all started by one "i-am-the-chief" and all have zero replies. :hmmm:

the Talking Can
01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
get over it, rebuilding

blueballs
01-29-2009, 05:00 PM
Did Hunt get on the jet
with an umbrella

Bugeater
01-29-2009, 05:01 PM
"Okay gang" really needs the follow-through of text to reach its peak performance.

Okay gang, as many of you know, Reaper is a big poopyhead.

Buck
01-29-2009, 05:01 PM
Looking at the Tailgate pics thread, most of them are bald w/ a goatee...They must be real chiefs fans.

RedThat
01-29-2009, 05:02 PM
Maybe nick athan spread the rumour on that site?

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 05:02 PM
I will check back later to see if anyone found any support that he claimed they have.

It could be just a ploy to get more hits on their website but I doubt it. This guy acted like he was the first to have breaking news.

milkman
01-29-2009, 05:06 PM
I will check back later to see if anyone found any support that he claimed they have.

It could be just a ploy to get more hits on their website but I doubt it. This guy acted like he was the first to have breaking news.

It's not Barry in StLouis is it?

blueballs
01-29-2009, 05:06 PM
Maybe Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan spread the rumour on that site?

HA
throw off the heat
Like Peterson in the same room with Millen

SNR
01-29-2009, 05:06 PM
Wait, Shanahan must be the QB coach, cause Gailey is the OC and Haley is supposed to be the next HC.I think the Chiefs will probably bring in Mike Tomlin as well to coach the defense.

Buck
01-29-2009, 05:07 PM
Mr. Plow = Az_Chiefsfan?

http://www.homeofthechiefs.com/forums/uploads/av-3.jpg

Fritz88
01-29-2009, 05:07 PM
I think the Chiefs will probably bring in Mike Tomlin as well to coach the defense.

and Big Ben as a free safety.

MTG#10
01-29-2009, 05:09 PM
I hope it want "Barryinstlouis". He is a huge Athan fan-boy and an overall retard.

FRCDFED
01-29-2009, 05:10 PM
I hope it want "Barryinstlouis". He is a huge Athan fan-boy and an overall retard.I didn't catch the name. Maybe someone can pull up the audio from 101.1.

Pestilence
01-29-2009, 05:11 PM
It's not Barry in StLouis is it?

It is on that board.

MTG#10
01-29-2009, 05:14 PM
I made a thread about it over there.

http://www.homeofthechiefs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1320

Barryinstlouis is a bigger Athan fan-boy than Claythan.

Stanley Nickels
01-29-2009, 05:18 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, your rumored 2009-2010 Chiefs coaching staff:

-Todd Haley, Head Coach
-Chan Gailey, Offensive Coordinator
-Bill Cowher, Defensive Coordinator
-Mike Shanahan, QB Coach
-Herman Edwards, DB Coach
-Bill Parcells, Special Assistant to Scott Pioli
-Marty Schottenheimer, Co-Special Assistant to Scott Pioli
-Scott "Jesus" Pioli, General Manager

Well, watch out world.

Donger
01-29-2009, 05:21 PM
My cat's breath smells like cat food. So does my son's.

milkman
01-29-2009, 05:23 PM
I hope it want "Barryinstlouis". He is a huge Athan fan-boy and an overall retard.

You understate his absolute moronacy.

BigRock
01-29-2009, 05:24 PM
Maybe Nick "The Erroneous One" Athan spread the rumour on that site?

He's spreading that rumor on his own site. His fanboy Barry probably took it from there.

Red Brooklyn
01-29-2009, 05:27 PM
Ladies and Gentlemen, your rumored 2009-2010 Chiefs coaching staff:

-Todd Haley, Head Coach
-Chan Gailey, Offensive Coordinator
-Bill Cowher, Defensive Coordinator
-Mike Shanahan, QB Coach
-Herman Edwards, DB Coach
-Bill Parcells, Special Assistant to Scott Pioli
-Marty Schottenheimer, Co-Special Assistant to Scott Pioli
-Scott "Jesus" Pioli, General Manager

Well, watch out world.

:clap:

ROFL

We are sooo gonna own the NFL.

88TG88
01-29-2009, 05:29 PM
Anybody want to start a board war?

Eh, it's pretty quiet over there. You go ahead, we'll just watch you .

MTG#10
01-29-2009, 05:29 PM
He's spreading that rumor on his own site. His fanboy Barry probably took it from there.

Very true. I dont think Barry has ever had a thought or written an article on his own. Everything he writes and posts on that website is 100% Athan. He just switches the words around so he cant be accused of plagiarism.

milkman
01-29-2009, 05:31 PM
Very true. I dont think Barry has ever had a thought of his own. Everything he writes and posts on that website is 100% Athan. He just switches the words around so he cant be accused of plagiarism.

FYP

DaFace
01-29-2009, 05:41 PM
Thanks for the ???'s.

PinkFloyd
01-29-2009, 05:48 PM
810 Sports just said Elvis Grbac was being interviewed as QB coach... Yes - with the Chiefs...










Yeah I know ---- STFUSTFUSTFU

seaofred
01-29-2009, 05:49 PM
810 Sports just said Elvis Grbac was being interviewed as QB coach... Yes - with the Chiefs...










Yeah I know ---- STFUSTFUSTFU





Are you serious?

smittysbar
01-29-2009, 05:50 PM
Looks as if they come over here to get av's

booger
01-29-2009, 05:50 PM
Are you serious?

he is never wrong

PinkFloyd
01-29-2009, 05:51 PM
Are you serious?

Ummmmmmmmmmm... No....


But I did hear elsewhere that Cowher is seriously considering the Chiefs job... That I'm being serious on.... He likes Mr. Gailey as his OC...

milkman
01-29-2009, 05:53 PM
Ummmmmmmmmmm... No....


But I did hear elsewhere that Cowher is seriously considering the Chiefs job... That I'm being serious on.... He likes Mr. Gailey as his OC...

You've been talking to Nick, haven't ya?

Where the hell have you been?

Buck
01-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Okay, this is how you cry.

/Elvis Grbac, QB Coach

smittysbar
01-29-2009, 05:55 PM
This was put up on another site, but with all the speculation, I just ignored it........


Jan 26th:
Reported tonight at 6:00 by Kansas City WDAF-TV's sports editor Frank Boal, Clark Hunt and Scott Pioli are putting the full-court press on Bill Cowher, even though it has been reported that Cowher has told friends and family that he will not be coaching anywhere in 2009.

Thig Lyfe
01-29-2009, 05:55 PM
Are you serious?

I should probably inform you that your screen name has an unfortunate resemblance to that of a recently re-outed sex offender.

theorangelion
01-29-2009, 05:56 PM
I heard that Herm Edwards first interview for ESPN was going to be with Bill Cowher once it was announced he was going to be the Chiefs new HC. :evil:

Thig Lyfe
01-29-2009, 05:56 PM
810 Sports just said Elvis Grbac was being interviewed as QB coach... Yes - with the Chiefs...



He'd demand to be WR coach, too.

seaofred
01-29-2009, 05:59 PM
I should probably inform you that your screen name has an unfortunate resemblance to that of a recently re-outed sex offender.


What??? How can I change it!?!?!?

FringeNC
01-29-2009, 06:00 PM
810 Sports just said Elvis Grbac was being interviewed as QB coach... Yes - with the Chiefs...



WTF? If that is true, we've already hired a HC, and he's putting together his staff.

booger
01-29-2009, 06:02 PM
WTF? If that is true, we've already hired a HC, and he's putting together his staff.

Brian Billick

kstater
01-29-2009, 06:03 PM
What??? How can I change it!?!?!?

PM BobDole, he'll get right on it.

KCtotheSB
01-29-2009, 06:04 PM
It's not Barry in StLouis is it?

Ugh.....that guy.....

Buck
01-29-2009, 06:09 PM
I got $5 on dthalloffame being Marlboro_Chief

Ari Chi3fs
01-29-2009, 06:09 PM
If Cowher becomes the coach, I'm sooo gonna strut my cyber peacock feathers...

DaFace
01-29-2009, 06:11 PM
I got $5 on dthalloffame being Marlboro_Chief

Would you like my paypal address?

DaFace
01-29-2009, 06:12 PM
What??? How can I change it!?!?!?

PM me whatever you'd like it to be instead. The other guy was DT58HOF for what that's worth.

booger
01-29-2009, 06:14 PM
I should probably inform you that your screen name has an unfortunate resemblance to that of a recently re-outed sex offender.

I heard a raccoon bit his pecker off

Frosty
01-29-2009, 06:16 PM
PM me whatever you'd like it to be instead. The other guy was DT58HOF for what that's worth.

He should at least put two f's in it. DT Hall Of Ame? :spock:

Buck
01-29-2009, 06:16 PM
Would you like my paypal address?

Yes please.

PinkFloyd
01-29-2009, 06:16 PM
You've been talking to Nick, haven't ya?

Where the hell have you been?

Oh just been working alot and then coming home and basically going to bed... Or; drinking a 12 pack then going too bed... Other than that - I'll lurk on here from time too time...

Ari Chi3fs
01-29-2009, 06:16 PM
PM me whatever you'd like it to be instead. The other guy was DT58HOF for what that's worth.

DT58HOF was a sex offender? Why do I always miss out on the good drama?!

smittysbar
01-29-2009, 06:19 PM
DT58HOF was a sex offender? Why do I always miss out on the good drama?!

I guess I missed something also :spock:

Buck
01-29-2009, 06:19 PM
DT58HOF was a sex offender? Why do I always miss out on the good drama?!

shyguyms

kstater
01-29-2009, 06:19 PM
DT58HOF was a sex offender? Why do I always miss out on the good drama?!

He was Shyguyms.

Mr. Flopnuts
01-29-2009, 06:21 PM
Deez Nutz needs to go over there and tell those true fan bitches what's up while he's taking their WPI money before walking out the door.

KCtotheSB
01-29-2009, 06:22 PM
I just went to the site and found out that it might be BarryInStLouis that's providing this information. If so, don't even bother getting your hopes up. I was on the old ChiefsHuddle before it shut down and I can tell you the guy's a total whackjob. He predicted we were going to be a 9-10 win playoff team last season.

If not, I still wouldn't trust any rumor originating from a message board.

Despite all that, I'd kill to see Cowher back in KC red.

DaFace
01-29-2009, 06:25 PM
Yes please.

ROFL...we never really "bet" so I'll let you off the hook.

PM me whatever you'd like it to be instead. The other guy was DT58HOF for what that's worth.

Oops...sorry n00b. You didn't have PM privs. You do now, but you can just let me know in this thread if that's easier.

smittysbar
01-29-2009, 06:25 PM
I just went to the site and found out that it might be BarryInStLouis that's providing this information. If so, don't even bother getting your hopes up. I was on the old ChiefsHuddle before it shut down and I can tell you the guy's a total whackjob. He predicted we were going to be a 9-10 win playoff team last season.

If not, I still wouldn't trust any rumor originating from a message board.

Hope you like it here. He does seem like a whack job.

KCtotheSB
01-29-2009, 06:37 PM
Hope you like it here. He does seem like a whack job.

I really do. What I like most about this place so far is that there's no "fluff". The majority of the users call 'em like they see 'em and that fits in well with how I view the Chiefs.

kcfanXIII
01-29-2009, 06:37 PM
i'm one that doesn't mind the wait here, as long as they get it right. however i am getting sick of all these threads that say "next new coach is going to be...." then i open the thread and its another rumor. this is what we do on message boards i know, but i'm ready for the shananagans to be over.

kcfanXIII
01-29-2009, 06:38 PM
I really do. What I like most about this place so far is that there's no "fluff". The majority of the users call 'em like they see 'em and that fits in well with how I view the Chiefs.


negativity will wear on you eventually, hopefully we'll soon have some positive things to look forward too. welcome btw.

DaFace
01-29-2009, 06:39 PM
DT58HOF was a sex offender? Why do I always miss out on the good drama?!

I guess I missed something also :spock:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5398009#post5398009

smittysbar
01-29-2009, 06:53 PM
http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?p=5398009#post5398009

Truly amazing, good job Planet!!!

beach tribe
01-29-2009, 07:14 PM
Anybody want to start a board war?

It would be funny if we just invaded, and started a dog pile on Barryinstlouie.

We can be pretty brutal.

chop
01-29-2009, 07:41 PM
Does anyone know if the Chiefs have interviewed a minority candidate yet?

EyePod
01-29-2009, 07:54 PM
If that happens. I think I am going to quit everything I do and be Hunt's bitch.

Does that change anything from how we're all acting now? We're all the Chiefs' bitches. It's pitiful. But I want more. And I want to know who the HC is!!!

DaFace
01-29-2009, 08:00 PM
Does anyone know if the Chiefs have interviewed a minority candidate yet?

No one knows if the Chiefs have interviewed ANY candidate yet.

kysirsoze
01-29-2009, 08:03 PM
Despite all that, I'd kill to see Cowher back in KC red.

I wouldn't be pissed or anything. I would just rather see some young guy come in and be "our Cohwer." This would feel like Vermeil 2.

KChiefs1
01-29-2009, 08:10 PM
The house is already bought & paid for in Leawood....

penguinz
01-29-2009, 08:49 PM
I am not sure what to say about Barry.

blueballs
01-29-2009, 08:55 PM
What??? How can I change it!?!?!?
seaofred
wasn't there a poster with a simular name
who got banned for posting gay porn

Guru
01-30-2009, 04:39 AM
Who the hell is Bill Cowher?

kstater
01-30-2009, 04:54 AM
Who the hell is Bill Cowher?

He's some guy that bought a house in Leawood a couple weeks ago.

Guru
01-30-2009, 05:00 AM
He's some guy that bought a house in Leawood a couple weeks ago.Does he like it? Is it a nice neighborhood?

Scorp
01-30-2009, 07:26 AM
He's some guy that bought a house in Leawood a couple weeks ago.


I guess he isn't into tropical weather like Olatha has? :hmmm:

phillip
01-30-2009, 08:16 AM
It would be funny if we just invaded, and started a dog pile on Barryinstlouie.

We can be pretty brutal.

Uh...oh, E-Thug alert.

That pansy forum better watch its back.

djrcmay
01-30-2009, 08:27 AM
I have a friend on another forum (not Nick either), and I thought I would share a post from yesterday,..Stay tuned for an updated Blog as well, I had to fix my computer the last couple of days, so I just finished one that should be up shortly....
KU4LIFE wrote....

Bill Cowher
I first off want to say I think Bill Cowher has actually always been the #1 target of Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt. Nick, Barry, and many others have touched on this and I think I've figured out the puzzle to the Bill Cowher saga. Before I say anything, I'm not saying I know if he will take the job or not, but all signs point to him from the beginning.

I'm going to give a detail step by step of what I think has been going on in Arrowhead.

1) It took Herm Edwards ten days to be fired. In those ten days there was much speculation of what was going on by the fans and media. We did get the intel that Mike Shanahan was a very likely candidate. We also got the National media speculation that we were after Todd Haley. We were still basically in the dark to what was going on. Arrowhead was on complete lockdown.

Little did we know in those ten days the actual meat of the coaching search was yet to come. We knew something had to be done by Friday before the Super Bowl when it came to Herm Edwards fate. Now it seems those ten days were very crucial to the future of the Chiefs and Scott Pioli. What Pioli was likely doing is picking apart the complete Chiefs coaching staff and Arrowhead front office personnel. Pioli was in no hurry to do anything until he got the answers to the questions he was needing. More than likely those questions were about the current roster and the reasons for how things went down this past season.

Once Pioli received the info he needed from the coaching staff, he let the Defensive staff and Herm Edwards free. But notice the Offensive staff goes untouched and remain in KC till this day. This was the first tip off that Bill Cowher was in the works.

2) Once we figure out that Chan Gailey and the offensive staff is retained comes the question how do they fit in with Mike Shanahan? We know Clark Hunt has a liking to Chan Gailey, but was it enough to sacrafice the Rat in the process? We find out that Gailey and Shanahan have worked together, but it wasn't a smooth coaching relationship. This is the first step in realizing that Shanahan is likely a smoke screen. For all we know we were being played by Shanahan for him and his Denver staff to get paid by the Broncos. Then you realize that Gailey is more than likely meant for Bill Cowher. Cowher and Gailey have a long good relationship, on and off the field. By retaining the offensive staff that is the first piece of the puzzle in getting the Chin.
(BarryinStlouis)
Chan is still here all right. Furthermore, Tampa is awaiting his fate, and the Chiefs still havent allowed any interviews..hmmmm

3) We still need someone to interview of minority to fufill the Rooney Rule. What we have learned is that Romeo Crennel is the target of that interview. Crennel is very important on many levels.

First off it is the chance for Scott Pioli to tap back into his old New England DC. He can pick Crennels mind in what worked and didn't work at Cleveland. We also find ourselves with a excellent DC candidate if he isn't selected for the HC gig. What is important to Pioli is the fact Crennel runs not only the 3-4, but he understands fully the type of players Pioli is looking for. If anyone knows anything about the Patriots, there is a huge trust factor between coaches and Pioli on being on the same page when it comes to player personnel.

How Crennel fits into Bill Cowher is the fact they both run the 3-4. Cowher is not going to be able to have his old Pittsburgh DC in KC. Cowher is going to need someone he trusts and I'm sure he trust Crennel due to his close ties to understanding Pioli and his vision. I'm sure Cowher and Crennel can alter things to each likings. Still the intial point of emphasis is on the style of defense that fits what Bill Cowher had been running in Pittsburgh and to what Pioli had been running/scouting to in New England.

(BarryinStlouis)
There is no doubt that I like the idea of Cowher/Crennel. My biggest concern at this point is personell in the linebacker department. For the Chiefs to switch to a 3-4 defense, I think that may be a tall order. But one can still HOPE!!


4) Bill Cowher has never came out personally and said he would NOT coach this season. He stated he wouldn't unless the right situation arised. Back when he stated to the world on CBS that he would not be coaching in 2009, that was before Pioli was hired and Herm had been fired. Eveyone that says it won't happen since then has pointed to the past and not the present. We have gotten word the Chiefs and Cowher had spoken about the GM job already. So more than likely the interest between Cowher and KC was very mutal from the beginning. Nick has stayed firm in his belief that if Cowher coaches again this year, it will be in KC and no where else.

5) Boomer Esiason drops the bomb that Bill Cowher does have a major interest in becoming the Kansas City Chiefs HC in 2010. Since that time Boomer has told everyone to just watch and see what unfolds when it pertains to Cowher. He may have learned that Bill is serious about coaching in KC this season. This is what Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt want to find out. If Cowher does indeed interview this weekend, the interest has to be extreme in the first place.
(BarryinStlouis)
During a radio interview last week on 105.7 the Fan in Baltimore, Boomer was asked about the possibility of coaching the Chiefs in 2009, and his comment was "stay tuned". Again...hmmmmm

Cowher and his agent has also not come out and denied any interest in the KC job. They haven't said no like they did to the New York Jets.

Also Nicks source when it comes to Bill Cowher has gone absolutely quiet. This has been the case ever since Scott Pioli was hired. One has to think his source went silent because Pioli and Cowher had started the process. The source has been told to keep their mouth shut.
(BarryinStlouis)
He's right, Nick has been pulling his hair out about this one. He claims that his buddy in Pitt has NEVER gone this long without talking to him.
Maybe he has to keep his mouth shut? Possible....

6) Notice none of the front office people of the Pittsburgh Steelers or their coaching staff have been shopping themselves. This makes me think many in the Steelers organization is on standby until Bill Cowher makes his decision. There is to much quality talent in the front office and coaching staff not to be interviewed by other franchises. A lot of the organization is carry over from the Cowher days. These people are still loyal to him more than likely.

7) Now that Herm has been fired, the smoke screens have been set with Haley and Shanahan, we enter Super Bowl week. This is a week devoted to the teams playing. Surprisingly the Pittsburgh Steelers are playing. While the National medias attention is directed elsewhere, Cowher slips in and interviews with the Chiefs. We have already set the grounds with the Crennel interview and the retaining of Chan Gailey and staff so far. Now we will figure out if Bill Cowher really wants to coach the Kansas Chiefs period or even coach this year in general? We won't get a answer on his decision until after the Super Bowl. If he does not take the Chiefs job, I think it will come down to Romeo Crennel and then possibly someone like Todd Haley.
(BarryinStlouis)
For the last time, I seriously doubt that Scott Pioli is going to hire Todd Haley. I know the relationship he has, I have read the rumors, and I just dont see it. The guy STILL has absolutely ZERO head coaching experience in the NFL. That just DOSENT seem like a trend that Clark Hunt would be looking for out of his shiny new GM. I just dont buy it......but who knows.

I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but all signs are pointing to Cowher to being the #1 guy from the beginning. Also remember Adam Schefter stated he believed Cowher was the top target in the first place. Maybe he knew the whole time Shanahan was a smoke screen? So basically in the long run when you look over everything, Pioli really hasn't been knocked off his game plan. It has been in place the whole time. Now lets just see if he can close the deal to his master plan in bringing Bill Cowher back to Kansas City!

(BarryinStlouis)
I believe that Bill Cowher is the RIGHT man for the job. Stay tuned..............

Brock
01-30-2009, 08:31 AM
Okay gang, stay tuned.

J Diddy
01-30-2009, 08:35 AM
seaofred
wasn't there a poster with a simular name
who got banned for posting gay porn


my question is :"is it sea of red" or "sea o fred"

jAZ
01-30-2009, 08:36 AM
I didn't see this in the thread here, but the guy admitted it was a and a "bold prediction".

So ummm... nevermind.

http://www.homeofthechiefs.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=1320&st=20

At around 5:15pm on Thursday, yours truly called ESPN radio with a TIP OFF about Cowher. I have my sources. That's all Im going to say. I ACTUALLY plugged homeofthechiefs.com TWICE during my segment. My INTENTIONS were many, and obviously PLUGGING homeofthechiefs.com was my primary goal.

I believe (personally) that Scott Pioli and/or Clark Hunt were both in NC thursday to speak with the Chin. I also met with Nick(Thursday evening) as he was coming back from Indy, and stopped to have a drink with me. ALL I CAN SAY at this point, is I believe BILL COWHER is the TOP target of the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, will he take the job? That is the question....

I used to call 590 the FAN everyday, and on Thursday it was my coming out party on our new ESPN affiliate. I did what I did for my own reasons, and am ready to face the firestorm if Im wrong. Nothing Im not used too....but it is what it is.

Stay tuned to my BLOG...I will share as much as I can.



And for the record, I identified myself as BarryinStlouis, Staff Writer of HOMEOFTHECHIEFS.com
Thats exactly what I said .......

And...

I hope that most can take this into perspective though. Maybe I called the radio show, and made a bold prediction on the air, to plug homeofthechiefs?

A BOLD prediction it was. But it's about high time I was right. I'm feeling this one folks, and If Im wrong, well I will live with it. Just like I was wrong about Brodie, and Herman, and so on and so forth. Now, if I was right? Well, I guess they will be having me on more often then wont they?

And his (presumed) self description...

BarryinStlouis( Barry Peraino, St. Louis, MO) is drunk on koolaid all of time. Evidence of his wide range came in mini camp when he predicted the Chiefs to win 10 games in 2008 on Fox4. Barry begain his love affair with the NFL when he was just 5 years old. He was a fan of the BIG RED in St. Louis, MO. When Bidwell moved the team out of St. Louis in the middle of the night, the only NFL games that were broadcasted in St. Louis were the Kansas City Chiefs. He has been drinking the koolaid ever since. He's a cheerleader, and a believer in looking at the bright side of even the worst players. Evidence of that is his additional love affair with Brodie Croyle. Other than that he's a conversation stimulator, and thats what he loves to be. He loves to challange any person in St. Louis for bragging rights of the BIGGEST CHIEF fan in the LOU.

jAZ
01-30-2009, 08:42 AM
He reminds me a little bit of kcnut.

OnTheWarpath58
01-30-2009, 09:17 AM
He loves to challange any person in St. Louis for bragging rights of the BIGGEST CHIEF fan in the LOU.

Well, he's definitely the biggest douchebag Chiefs fan in St. Louis.

MTG#10
01-30-2009, 09:19 AM
Well, he's definitely the biggest douchebag Chiefs fan in St. Louis.

+1

ArrowheadHawk
01-30-2009, 09:29 AM
Not this shit again. That story should start out with "Okay gang..."

penguinz
01-30-2009, 09:39 AM
I have a friend on another forum (not Nick either), and I thought I would share a post from yesterday,..Stay tuned for an updated Blog as well, I had to fix my computer the last couple of days, so I just finished one that should be up shortly....
KU4LIFE wrote....

Bill Cowher
I first off want to say I think Bill Cowher has actually always been the #1 target of Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt. Nick, Barry, and many others have touched on this and I think I've figured out the puzzle to the Bill Cowher saga. Before I say anything, I'm not saying I know if he will take the job or not, but all signs point to him from the beginning.

I'm going to give a detail step by step of what I think has been going on in Arrowhead.

1) It took Herm Edwards ten days to be fired. In those ten days there was much speculation of what was going on by the fans and media. We did get the intel that Mike Shanahan was a very likely candidate. We also got the National media speculation that we were after Todd Haley. We were still basically in the dark to what was going on. Arrowhead was on complete lockdown.

Little did we know in those ten days the actual meat of the coaching search was yet to come. We knew something had to be done by Friday before the Super Bowl when it came to Herm Edwards fate. Now it seems those ten days were very crucial to the future of the Chiefs and Scott Pioli. What Pioli was likely doing is picking apart the complete Chiefs coaching staff and Arrowhead front office personnel. Pioli was in no hurry to do anything until he got the answers to the questions he was needing. More than likely those questions were about the current roster and the reasons for how things went down this past season.

Once Pioli received the info he needed from the coaching staff, he let the Defensive staff and Herm Edwards free. But notice the Offensive staff goes untouched and remain in KC till this day. This was the first tip off that Bill Cowher was in the works.

2) Once we figure out that Chan Gailey and the offensive staff is retained comes the question how do they fit in with Mike Shanahan? We know Clark Hunt has a liking to Chan Gailey, but was it enough to sacrafice the Rat in the process? We find out that Gailey and Shanahan have worked together, but it wasn't a smooth coaching relationship. This is the first step in realizing that Shanahan is likely a smoke screen. For all we know we were being played by Shanahan for him and his Denver staff to get paid by the Broncos. Then you realize that Gailey is more than likely meant for Bill Cowher. Cowher and Gailey have a long good relationship, on and off the field. By retaining the offensive staff that is the first piece of the puzzle in getting the Chin.
(BarryinStlouis)
Chan is still here all right. Furthermore, Tampa is awaiting his fate, and the Chiefs still havent allowed any interviews..hmmmm

3) We still need someone to interview of minority to fufill the Rooney Rule. What we have learned is that Romeo Crennel is the target of that interview. Crennel is very important on many levels.

First off it is the chance for Scott Pioli to tap back into his old New England DC. He can pick Crennels mind in what worked and didn't work at Cleveland. We also find ourselves with a excellent DC candidate if he isn't selected for the HC gig. What is important to Pioli is the fact Crennel runs not only the 3-4, but he understands fully the type of players Pioli is looking for. If anyone knows anything about the Patriots, there is a huge trust factor between coaches and Pioli on being on the same page when it comes to player personnel.

How Crennel fits into Bill Cowher is the fact they both run the 3-4. Cowher is not going to be able to have his old Pittsburgh DC in KC. Cowher is going to need someone he trusts and I'm sure he trust Crennel due to his close ties to understanding Pioli and his vision. I'm sure Cowher and Crennel can alter things to each likings. Still the intial point of emphasis is on the style of defense that fits what Bill Cowher had been running in Pittsburgh and to what Pioli had been running/scouting to in New England.

(BarryinStlouis)
There is no doubt that I like the idea of Cowher/Crennel. My biggest concern at this point is personell in the linebacker department. For the Chiefs to switch to a 3-4 defense, I think that may be a tall order. But one can still HOPE!!


4) Bill Cowher has never came out personally and said he would NOT coach this season. He stated he wouldn't unless the right situation arised. Back when he stated to the world on CBS that he would not be coaching in 2009, that was before Pioli was hired and Herm had been fired. Eveyone that says it won't happen since then has pointed to the past and not the present. We have gotten word the Chiefs and Cowher had spoken about the GM job already. So more than likely the interest between Cowher and KC was very mutal from the beginning. Nick has stayed firm in his belief that if Cowher coaches again this year, it will be in KC and no where else.

5) Boomer Esiason drops the bomb that Bill Cowher does have a major interest in becoming the Kansas City Chiefs HC in 2010. Since that time Boomer has told everyone to just watch and see what unfolds when it pertains to Cowher. He may have learned that Bill is serious about coaching in KC this season. This is what Scott Pioli and Clark Hunt want to find out. If Cowher does indeed interview this weekend, the interest has to be extreme in the first place.
(BarryinStlouis)
During a radio interview last week on 105.7 the Fan in Baltimore, Boomer was asked about the possibility of coaching the Chiefs in 2009, and his comment was "stay tuned". Again...hmmmmm

Cowher and his agent has also not come out and denied any interest in the KC job. They haven't said no like they did to the New York Jets.

Also Nicks source when it comes to Bill Cowher has gone absolutely quiet. This has been the case ever since Scott Pioli was hired. One has to think his source went silent because Pioli and Cowher had started the process. The source has been told to keep their mouth shut.
(BarryinStlouis)
He's right, Nick has been pulling his hair out about this one. He claims that his buddy in Pitt has NEVER gone this long without talking to him.
Maybe he has to keep his mouth shut? Possible....

6) Notice none of the front office people of the Pittsburgh Steelers or their coaching staff have been shopping themselves. This makes me think many in the Steelers organization is on standby until Bill Cowher makes his decision. There is to much quality talent in the front office and coaching staff not to be interviewed by other franchises. A lot of the organization is carry over from the Cowher days. These people are still loyal to him more than likely.

7) Now that Herm has been fired, the smoke screens have been set with Haley and Shanahan, we enter Super Bowl week. This is a week devoted to the teams playing. Surprisingly the Pittsburgh Steelers are playing. While the National medias attention is directed elsewhere, Cowher slips in and interviews with the Chiefs. We have already set the grounds with the Crennel interview and the retaining of Chan Gailey and staff so far. Now we will figure out if Bill Cowher really wants to coach the Kansas Chiefs period or even coach this year in general? We won't get a answer on his decision until after the Super Bowl. If he does not take the Chiefs job, I think it will come down to Romeo Crennel and then possibly someone like Todd Haley.
(BarryinStlouis)
For the last time, I seriously doubt that Scott Pioli is going to hire Todd Haley. I know the relationship he has, I have read the rumors, and I just dont see it. The guy STILL has absolutely ZERO head coaching experience in the NFL. That just DOSENT seem like a trend that Clark Hunt would be looking for out of his shiny new GM. I just dont buy it......but who knows.

I'm sure I'm forgetting something, but all signs are pointing to Cowher to being the #1 guy from the beginning. Also remember Adam Schefter stated he believed Cowher was the top target in the first place. Maybe he knew the whole time Shanahan was a smoke screen? So basically in the long run when you look over everything, Pioli really hasn't been knocked off his game plan. It has been in place the whole time. Now lets just see if he can close the deal to his master plan in bringing Bill Cowher back to Kansas City!

(BarryinStlouis)
I believe that Bill Cowher is the RIGHT man for the job. Stay tuned..............Link?

Balto
01-30-2009, 10:04 AM
ALSO:

On another forum http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=115&f=1837&t=3849637

A guy saw Cowher and his daughter at the Wake Forrest/Duke game this week. The guy told Cowher

"please help the Chiefs out"

Cowher responded with "we'll see buddy...we'll see..." He was all smiles when he said it and his daughter smiled too.

If this is true then that's just ONE MORE hint that Cowher is our guy.

ChiefRon
01-30-2009, 10:14 AM
Good grief.

Micjones
01-30-2009, 10:19 AM
Speculation overload.

I'm excited about the game on Sunday.
The Head Coaching situation will soon resolve itself.

Sure-Oz
01-30-2009, 10:20 AM
Speculation overload.

I'm excited about the game on Sunday.
The Head Coaching situation will soon resolve itself.

No kidding

Molitoth
01-30-2009, 10:20 AM
If all of this comes true, it's like an offseason dream team. Imagine all of the media attention the Chiefs will receive.

Rooster
01-30-2009, 10:24 AM
I had a dream that Cowher became KC's coach. So THE DEAL IS DONE..

MahiMike
01-30-2009, 10:25 AM
I wonder what agent Mulder thinks about this one? Straight out of x-files.

Brock
01-30-2009, 10:25 AM
If all of this comes true, it's like an offseason dream team. Imagine all of the media attention the Chiefs will receive.

Back on prime time immediately, for sure.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 10:36 AM
Am I the only one disgusted with the idea of Cowher has our next coach.

If it wasnt for the refs in 06 he would be exactly like marty in every way.

ChiefsGirl
01-30-2009, 10:38 AM
Am I the only one disgusted with the idea of Cowher has our next coach.

I don't know. What idea does Cowher have about our next head coach?

Brock
01-30-2009, 10:39 AM
Am I the only one disgusted with the idea of Cowher has our next coach.

Definitely a minority.

crazycoffey
01-30-2009, 10:41 AM
Well, he's definitely the biggest douchebag Chiefs fan in St. Louis.


talking about me, punk?

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 10:42 AM
Definitely a minority.

I cant wait to see some of the comments on here once Bignose brings his bullshit smashmouth offense back.

Extra Point
01-30-2009, 10:42 AM
Bill Cowher, you're not doing yourself any favors by staying another year away from coaching in the NFL, be it (ISSAS hope) KC or wherever. The extra year will actually cost you more in energy and emotion. Take the job here, next week!

FringeNC
01-30-2009, 10:43 AM
I'm not convinced Cowher and Pioli would be on the same page. Pioli was clear about the team being composed of the "right 53" rather than the "best 53". Cowher seems like the "best 53" type of coach.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 10:44 AM
Bill Cowher, you're not doing yourself any favors by staying another year away from coaching in the NFL, be it (ISSAS hope) KC or wherever. The extra year will actually cost you more in energy and emotion. Take the job here, next week!

No no im sure there is better jobs open next year...

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 10:44 AM
Am I the only one disgusted with the idea of Cowher has our next coach.

If it wasnt for the refs in 06 he would be exactly like marty in every way.
wrong and it's been shown over and over

rambleonthruthefog
01-30-2009, 10:44 AM
Am I the only one disgusted with the idea of Cowher has our next coach.

If it wasnt for the refs in 06 he would be exactly like marty in every way.

no, plenty of folks are not down with that. most seem ok enough with the chin in charge as far as i can tell. i'm definatly cool with it.

Brock
01-30-2009, 10:47 AM
I cant wait to see some of the comments on here once Bignose brings his bullshit smashmouth offense back.

There isn't anything wrong with running a football team that way. Besides that, his offenses at Pittsburgh were only bad one year out of 15.

I'm not a huge fan of Cowher, but I'm tired of the Chiefs being a bunch of pushover pussies on defense the way they have been for the past 10 years or so.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 10:47 AM
I'm not convinced Cowher and Pioli would be on the same page. Pioli was clear about the team being composed of the "right 53" rather than the "best 53". Cowher seems like the "best 53" type of coach.

Jesus this is not disney's miracle how cliché

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 10:50 AM
There isn't anything wrong with running a football team that way. Besides that, his offenses at Pittsburgh were only bad one year out of 15.

I'm not a huge fan of Cowher, but I'm tired of the Chiefs being a bunch of pushover pussies on defense the way they have been for the past 10 years or so.

I want a balance team for once.

I want the chiefs to be the pats/colts I dont want to be the fooking RAVENS/Titans

penguinz
01-30-2009, 10:53 AM
I don't want Cowher.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 10:56 AM
I don't want Cowher.

Preach it brother....

Jerm
01-30-2009, 11:00 AM
If Cowher is hired, it'll be the best kept secret in quite some time. I'll be flat shocked if he's hired but at this point who the hell knows.

It's funny that everything in the national and local media points to Haley, that's exactly the type of smokescreen Pioli would need to put the full court press on someone like Cowher.

Just saying...

Pestilence
01-30-2009, 11:05 AM
I want a balance team for once.

I want the chiefs to be the pats/colts I dont want to be the fooking RAVENS/Titans

Yeah because who wants to win a Superbowl.....am I right?

DaWolf
01-30-2009, 11:08 AM
ALL I CAN SAY at this point, is I believe BILL COWHER is the TOP target of the Kansas City Chiefs. Now, will he take the job? That is the question....

Sooo, let's take Adam Schefter's blog entry where he says Bill Cowher is at the top of the Chiefs wish list, say that you believe it, and then wait and see what happens? OK then...

KC_Connection
01-30-2009, 11:13 AM
I'm not convinced Cowher and Pioli would be on the same page. Pioli was clear about the team being composed of the "right 53" rather than the "best 53". Cowher seems like the "best 53" type of coach.

The best coaches know how to turn the "best 53" into the "right 53."

DaWolf
01-30-2009, 11:19 AM
I want a balance team for once.

I want the chiefs to be the pats/colts I dont want to be the fooking RAVENS/Titans

The same Colts who get punked in the playoffs every year outside of one? BTW that team was run until recently by another Marty Tree coach and conservative HC in Tampa, Tony Dungy.

What the Colts and Pats have that the Titans and Ravens don't have is a franchise superstar QB. Coincidentally, when Cowher won it all, he also was provided with a franchise QB. He got Big Ben in the draft and proceeded to go 15-1 and win it all the year after.

So, if you want to win, hire a good coach that understands D, and give him a franchise QB...

Donger
01-30-2009, 11:40 AM
Where did the "okay gang" thing originate?

Basileus777
01-30-2009, 11:41 AM
Where did the "okay gang" thing originate?

From the Pioli watch thread. Someone posted a false rumor that started with "okay gang."

Frankie
01-30-2009, 12:06 PM
The best coaches know how to turn the "best 53" into the "right 53."

Actually, the other way around.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:23 PM
Yeah because who wants to win a Superbowl.....am I right?

Gruden won a superbowl do you want him here??????

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:27 PM
The same Colts who get punked in the playoffs every year outside of one? BTW that team was run until recently by another Marty Tree coach and conservative HC in Tampa, Tony Dungy.

What the Colts and Pats have that the Titans and Ravens don't have is a franchise superstar QB. Coincidentally, when Cowher won it all, he also was provided with a franchise QB. He got Big Ben in the draft and proceeded to go 15-1 and win it all the year after.

So, if you want to win, hire a good coach that understands D, and give him a franchise QB...

Me and you both know that Dungy has no control over the offense in indy

And if it wasnt for the refs Giveing the steelers the superbowl and the playoff game in indy Cowher would be marty 2.0

Brock
01-30-2009, 12:32 PM
Me and you both know that Dungy has no control over the offense in indy

And if it wasnt for the refs Giveing the steelers the superbowl and the playoff game in indy Cowher would be marty 2.0

Come on. Marty hasn't won a playoff game since 1993. Cowher's 12-9 in the playoffs, it's a false comparison.

BigRedChief
01-30-2009, 12:35 PM
Speculation overload.
Better get use to it because with Pioli in charge now getting info out of Arrowhead will like putting a man on the moon. Takes forever and then what do you do with it once you get it?

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:37 PM
Come on. Marty hasn't won a playoff game since 1993. Cowher's 12-9 in the playoffs, it's a false comparison.

I dont wany any one who wants to run smash mouth football here ever again.

Not only that I dont want any one from the Carl peterson/good old boy network to Coach here ever ever ever again.l


thats to much in common for me.

RustShack
01-30-2009, 12:42 PM
Better get use to it because with Pioli in charge now getting info out of Arrowhead will like putting a man on the moon. Takes forever and then what do you do with it once you get it?

Quick grab your wallet! We must purchase subscriptions to WPI's "insider info" That way we can get around the Pioli barrier and know whats going on inside Arrowhead!




ROFL

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 12:44 PM
Come on. Marty hasn't won a playoff game since 1993. Cowher's 12-9 in the playoffs, it's a false comparison.

i kind of threw that out there already. He's not listening

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:46 PM
i kind of threw that out there already. He's not listening

They both have ties to Carl peterson

They both run a similar style of offense that makes me want to blow my brains out


both have also coached in Cleveland

That's to much in common for me.

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 12:46 PM
I dont wany any one who wants to run smash mouth football here ever again.

Not only that I dont want any one from the Carl peterson/good old boy network to Coach here ever ever ever again.l


thats to much in common for me.

did you actually watch any steelers games while he was coaching them? sure the offense was predicated on the run BUT they used lots of trick plays and passes also, no way near marty ball IMO

BigRedChief
01-30-2009, 12:47 PM
They both have ties to Carl peterson

They both run a similar style of offense that makes me want to blow my brains out

That's to much in common for me.
Cohwer changed. He even started putting in trick plays.

rad
01-30-2009, 12:50 PM
From the Pioli watch thread. Someone posted a false rumor that started with "okay gang."

...that actually ended up being true.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5367560&postcount=1352

OnTheWarpath58
01-30-2009, 12:50 PM
did you actually watch any steelers games while he was coaching them? sure the offense was predicated on the run BUT they used lots of trick plays and passes also, no way near marty ball IMO

Cohwer changed. He even started putting in trick plays.

Cowher might have allowed it, but the trick plays were Whisenhunt's idea.

Whiz and Haley use the exact same plays in Arizona.

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 12:51 PM
Cowher might have allowed it, but the trick plays were Whisenhunt's idea.Whiz and Haley use the exact same plays in Arizona.

that shows a willingness to hire a coordinator and let him do his job right? and allowing it is enough to show change

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:53 PM
did you actually watch any steelers games while he was coaching them? sure the offense was predicated on the run BUT they used lots of trick plays and passes also, no way near marty ball IMO

Kind of the same play style Ken Whisenhunt run's in AZ.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:54 PM
that shows a willingness to hire a coordinator and let him do his job right? and allowing it is enough to show change

Was it the owner or was it Cowher....

BigRedChief
01-30-2009, 12:54 PM
Cowher might have allowed it, but the trick plays were Whisenhunt's idea.

Whiz and Haley use the exact same plays in Arizona.
If this is true and Gailey has really been denied permission to leave then that would be a combination that I'd feel comfortable with and not see a relapse into Marty ball.

But I sure do enjoy my team having a tough defense. I miss the 90's. :shake:

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:55 PM
Cowher might have allowed it, but the trick plays were Whisenhunt's idea.

Whiz and Haley use the exact same plays in Arizona.

QFT

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 12:57 PM
If this is true and Gailey has really been denied permission to leave then that would be a combination that I'd feel comfortable with and not see a relapse into Marty ball.

But I sure do enjoy my team having a tough defense. I miss the 90's. :shake:

I HATED the fooking 90's and have no desire to go back there COME ON PPL ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!

kysirsoze
01-30-2009, 01:01 PM
They both have ties to Carl peterson

They both run a similar style of offense that makes me want to blow my brains out


both have also coached in Cleveland

That's to much in common for me.

You act like the Marty years were the dark times for us. It's since Marty that we've sucked ass. Marty's problem was choking his dick off in the playoffs. That's about it. I don't care if he likes the same pizza toppings or has the same haircut. If Cowher is exactly the same as Marty in every way except he wins playoff games than he is a great coach and he would upgrade the Chiefs organization substantially. That's not to mention how much more attractive he would make KC to free agents that think we're where you go if you wanna take January off.

Balto
01-30-2009, 01:02 PM
Speaking of Big Ben,

I see he will be a FA in 2010 MUAHAHAHA. Maybe thats why Cowher wants to wait another year HAHAHA

Get ready!!!!

Cowher and Big Ben in 2010

Basileus777
01-30-2009, 01:02 PM
...that actually ended up being true.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showpost.php?p=5367560&postcount=1352

I guess it did. I didn't remember the exact details of it, just that everyone assumed it was BS.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:04 PM
You act like the Marty years were the dark times for us. It's since Marty that we've sucked ass. Marty's problem was choking his dick off in the playoffs. That's about it. I don't care if he likes the same pizza toppings or has the same haircut. If Cowher is exactly the same as Marty in every way except he wins playoff games than he is a great coach and he would upgrade the Chiefs organization substantially. That's not to mention how much more attractive he would make KC to free agents that think we're where you go if you wanna take January off.

To me the Marty days were Dark times our offense was DOG SHIT and Cowher Chokes in the palyoffs has well if it wasn't for some very questionable playcalling in indy and during the superbowl HE WOULD BE A HAZBIN...

Pestilence
01-30-2009, 01:04 PM
Speaking of Big Ben,

I see he will be a FA in 2010 MUAHAHAHA. Maybe thats why Cowher wants to wait another year HAHAHA

Get ready!!!!

Cowher and Big Ben in 2010

Didn't they already sign Big Ben to a new contract?

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:05 PM
Didn't they already sign Big Ben to a new contract?

even if they didn't there is no way in hell the steelers are going to let him go.

Reaper16
01-30-2009, 01:06 PM
You act like the Marty years were the dark times for us. It's since Marty that we've sucked ass. Marty's problem was choking his dick off in the playoffs. That's about it. I don't care if he likes the same pizza toppings or has the same haircut. If Cowher is exactly the same as Marty in every way except he wins playoff games than he is a great coach and he would upgrade the Chiefs organization substantially. That's not to mention how much more attractive he would make KC to free agents that think we're where you go if you wanna take January off.
Leave.

Johnny Vegas
01-30-2009, 01:07 PM
Didn't they already sign Big Ben to a new contract?

yeah like somewhere over $100 million for 6 years.

kysirsoze
01-30-2009, 01:08 PM
even if they didn't there is no way in hell the steelers are going to let him go.

Agreed.... That organization has it's shit together and wouldn't let BB slip through their fingers.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:10 PM
Leave.

Shhh they dont like common sense here.

Big Chief Homer
01-30-2009, 01:10 PM
Speaking of Big Ben,

I see he will be a FA in 2010 MUAHAHAHA. Maybe thats why Cowher wants to wait another year HAHAHA

Get ready!!!!

Cowher and Big Ben in 2010

Actually, Ben and Cowher didn't get along as great as people think they did.

melbar
01-30-2009, 01:15 PM
To me the Marty days were Dark times our offense was DOG SHIT and Cowher Chokes in the palyoffs has well if it wasn't for some very questionable playcalling in indy and during the superbowl HE WOULD BE A HAZBIN...

Marty would have been in the SB if not for some questionable play calling...and a last minute fumble.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:15 PM
Actually, Ben and Cowher didn't get along as great as people think they did.


http://movetheneedle.blogspot.com/2007/09/ben-roethlisberger-bad-mouths-bill.html

Ben Roethlisberger Bad Mouths Bill Cowher Again.
Sunday September 9, 2007
From Steeler Nation

Ben Roethlisberger threw a career-high four touchdown passes as Pittsburgh built an early 17-0 lead and rolled for Tomlin, the easy-going 35-year-old former defensive coordinator who shares Cowher's passion - not his volcanic personality.
"This win is not about me," Tomlin said. "This is the story of the 2007 Steelers."

And it began the way other seasons have, with a romp over the Browns, whose complete breakdown on an early punt set the tone for another embarrassing day of turnovers, sacks and ineptitude.

Tomlin did his best to hide his emotions, but he was clearly moved by the Steelers' outpouring of respect following the game.

"You can see the excitement in his eyes," Roethlisberger said. "He really doesn't get rah-rah. As a player you like that. He's calm. You don't have to worry about getting yelled at or spit on or getting stuff thrown at you."

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:16 PM
Marty would have been in the SB if not for some questionable play calling...and a last minute fumble.

So marty and Cowher are both hazbins????

kysirsoze
01-30-2009, 01:18 PM
Leave.

I'm not saying going back to those days is what I want. I'm just saying those are the best days the Chiefs have had in 30 years. I'm not even saying I want Cowher. I'd rather have a young coach that will build his own legacy here. However, comparing a Cowher coached Chiefs team to the only Chiefs success I've ever witnessed (however disappointing) is not the strongest argument.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:21 PM
I'm not saying going back to those days is what I want. I'm just saying those are the best days the Chiefs have had in 30 years. I'm not even saying I want Cowher. I'd rather have a young coach that will build his own legacy here. However, comparing a Cowher coached Chiefs team to the only Chiefs success I've ever witnessed (however disappointing) is not the strongest argument.

Mabye some of us are Tired of mediocre or even pretty good teams we want a dynasty we can be proud of.

kysirsoze
01-30-2009, 01:23 PM
Mabye some of us are Tired of mediocre or even pretty good teams we want a dynasty we can be proud of.

I'm not saying going back to those days is what I want. I'm just saying those are the best days the Chiefs have had in 30 years. I'm not even saying I want Cowher. I'd rather have a young coach that will build his own legacy here. However, comparing a Cowher coached Chiefs team to the only Chiefs success I've ever witnessed (however disappointing) is not the strongest argument.


I'm with you there.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:24 PM
on a side note I would say we were just as successful on the offensive side of the ball with Dick has we were on the Defenseive side with Marty.

kysirsoze
01-30-2009, 01:24 PM
on a side note I would say we were just as successful on the offensive side of the ball with Dick has we were on the Defenseive side with Marty.

But not as successful as a team.

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 01:28 PM
But not as successful as a team.

shhhhh some dont like logic:p

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 01:38 PM
I dont give a rats as* if our offense is "smash mouth" or not. What matters is our damn defense! Havent you people figured out that defense gets you places! That fun, wonderful offense we had from 2002 to 2005 got us ZERO playoff wins and only took us there one time. Having a great defense takes you there, and wins you games.

penguinz
01-30-2009, 01:44 PM
I dont give a rats as* if our offense is "smash mouth" or not. What matters is our damn defense! Havent you people figured out that defense gets you places! That fun, wonderful offense we had from 2002 to 2005 got us ZERO playoff wins and only took us there one time. Having a great defense takes you there, and wins you games.Herm? Is that you?

MiDW3sT
01-30-2009, 01:45 PM
Him being in NC could mean a couple of things. The radio could just be making assumptions. They're there right now mainly because he's there for the funeral of Kay Yow (I think that's her name). Other agendas could be anything, not denying that he could be there to also talk to Cowher, who has a residence in NC. But the radio could just be making assumptions and everyone jumping on the band wagon.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 01:52 PM
Herm? Is that you?

sounds like him..

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 02:22 PM
sounds like him..

well which do you want? flashy points, scoring 30 a game, then losing because our defense cant stop the other offense either? Or do you want a defense that can limit a team to 10 points on a consistent basis, that can bring us to the playoffs and give us a chance at reaching the Superbowl. I dont care about points as much as just winning the game.

yeah, Herms philosophies were very good ones usually. He just didnt acutally know how to teach and coach his players anything. We need a coach that has both abilities.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 02:51 PM
yeah, Herms philosophies were very good ones usually. He just didnt acutally know how to teach and coach his players anything. We need a coach that has both abilities.

lol Grinding the ball out when your up 7 points in the start of the 4th is never a smart idea.

LOCOChief
01-30-2009, 02:55 PM
I knew it!

|Zach|
01-30-2009, 02:56 PM
lol Grinding the ball out when your up 7 points in the start of the 4th is never a smart idea.

I disagree, if you are good at it then it works....

Wear out their defense take time off the clock. Being able to pound and run the ball on a team is really deflating. If you are on the road it easily takes the crowd out of the game.

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 02:56 PM
lol Grinding the ball out when your up 7 points in the start of the 4th is never a smart idea.

Theres nothing wrong with that as long as your running game has been working all game. It can be used as a good way to put the final dagger in an opponent. But what Herm liked to say and do where 2 very different things. What he would say was usually the way you want your team to play, but then he would go and do something else.

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 02:58 PM
I disagree, if you are good at it then it works....

Wear out their defense take time off the clock. Being able to pound and run the ball on a team is really deflating. If you are on the road it easily takes the crowd out of the game.

thank you, im glad some Chief fans understand football.

warrior
01-30-2009, 03:04 PM
I HATED the fooking 90's and have no desire to go back there COME ON PPL ITS TIME FOR A CHANGE!!!!



What the Hell ????????????

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 03:07 PM
What the Hell ????????????

LMAO yeah man...I Hated the frickin 60's! All that success in KC/Dallas. Running the ball all the time, winning Superbowl 4, going to SB 1. drives me nutz.

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 03:10 PM
Its funny, theres fans that hate our 2nd most successful decade of football, when true KC tradition was born.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 03:17 PM
Its funny, theres fans that hate our 2nd most successful decade of football, when true KC tradition was born.

It's not like we were a strong dynasty we were very hit and miss you think any one is going to reamber the eagels 10 years from now.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 03:18 PM
I disagree, if you are good at it then it works....

Wear out their defense take time off the clock. Being able to pound and run the ball on a team is really deflating. If you are on the road it easily takes the crowd out of the game.

You dont give up what's working aka the passing game or even a blance of the 2 to try to pound the ball out at the start of the 4th thats 70's style football.

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 03:23 PM
It's not like we were a strong dynasty we were very hit and miss you think any one is going to reamber the eagels 10 years from now.

Eagles fans would take this decade over mediocrity anyday. Same goes for most Chiefs fans and the 90's compared to, now.

|Zach|
01-30-2009, 03:25 PM
You dont give up what's working aka the passing game or even a blance of the 2 to try to pound the ball out at the start of the 4th thats 70's style football.
Give up whats working?

I am not talking about a specific team...I only responded to your post that seemed to be talking about football strategy in general.

I will say it again...if you can run the ball effectively it is a great idea going into the 4th qtr up by 7. Consistently being run on is one of the most frustrating things in the game of football. You are showing complete dominance under a team by doing it. You are also controlling the clock and wearing out their defenders.

JuicesFlowing
01-30-2009, 03:26 PM
I disagree, if you are good at it then it works....

Wear out their defense take time off the clock. Being able to pound and run the ball on a team is really deflating. If you are on the road it easily takes the crowd out of the game.

Jacksonville was very good at this a few years ago.

Reaper16
01-30-2009, 03:34 PM
Eagles fans would take this decade over mediocrity anyday. Same goes for most Chiefs fans and the 90's compared to, now.
90's Chiefs were a lot worse than the recent Eagles. The Eagles went to one Super Bowl, at least. And how many conference championships? '90s Chiefs couldn't hold their jock.

KCrockaholic
01-30-2009, 03:39 PM
90's Chiefs were a lot worse than the recent Eagles. The Eagles went to one Super Bowl, at least. And how many conference championships? '90s Chiefs couldn't hold their jock.

I never said the 90's Chiefs was as good as the Eagles of now. Of course they arent, The Chiefs never went to the SB, and didnt win as many playoff games as Philly has. My point was that Eagles fans would take This decade of football over having a mediocre team. Most Chiefs fans would take the 90's over this team we have now.

I never said anything about the Chiefs being as good in the 90's as the Eagles are currently.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 03:48 PM
I never said the 90's Chiefs was as good as the Eagles of now. Of course they arent, The Chiefs never went to the SB, and didnt win as many playoff games as Philly has. My point was that Eagles fans would take This decade of football over having a mediocre team. Most Chiefs fans would take the 90's over this team we have now.

I never said anything about the Chiefs being as good in the 90's as the Eagles are currently.

why should we want either both are pointless I want to try something new.

kysirsoze
01-30-2009, 03:49 PM
All of this seems a little moot to me. It's pretty unlikely with all of the changes in the Chiefs organization from top to bottom that we are going to revert back to the 90's Chiefs. We may be just as disappointing but even if we run a similar system (Which I doubt we will), with different owner, GM, coaches, and players, it's a completely different story. All that matters is how the team works as a whole. That's the main difference between the "couldhavebeen" 90's Chiefs and most successful franchises. That's also Pioli's primary focus.

OnTheWarpath58
01-30-2009, 03:52 PM
I never said the 90's Chiefs was as good as the Eagles of now. Of course they arent, The Chiefs never went to the SB, and didnt win as many playoff games as Philly has. My point was that Eagles fans would take This decade of football over having a mediocre team. Most Chiefs fans would take the 90's over this team we have now.

I never said anything about the Chiefs being as good in the 90's as the Eagles are currently.

Because most Chiefs fans are dumbasses that are more worried about their gameday parties/tailgates than they are about winning a championship.

13-3 means jack shit if you're not in possession of the Lombardi Trophy come February.

That's the problem with this fanbase, they are content with winning seasons that don't meet the ultimate goal.

Monty
01-30-2009, 03:56 PM
why should we want either both are pointless I want to try something new.

Try soccer....that could be of interest to you.

Seriously, you're really not making sense. Winning is winning. I don't care how it gets done, just win. Does that mean nothing to you?

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 03:57 PM
Try soccer....that could be of interest to you.

Seriously, you're really not making sense. Winning is winning. I don't care how it gets done, just win. Does that mean nothing to you?

once again: he's not listening

Extra Point
01-30-2009, 03:58 PM
Unfortunately, quite a few of the current Chiefs fans haven't seen 65 Toss Power Trap executed. 13-3 doesn't mean jack shit to me, either. I want to see Clark handed the Hunt trophy, fair and square, and see him handed the Lombardi Trophy. I used to hate the name "Lombardi," due to SB1, but respect his accomplishments, and I respect the association of his name with championship.

JASONSAUTO
01-30-2009, 03:59 PM
It's not like we were a strong dynasty we were very hit and miss you think any one is going to reamber the eagels 10 years from now.

who are the eagels? i dont seem to recall them now

Monty
01-30-2009, 04:06 PM
once again: he's not listening

I really don't care. It's Friday and I'm drinking. :D

JuicesFlowing
01-30-2009, 04:12 PM
All of this seems a little moot to me. It's pretty unlikely with all of the changes in the Chiefs organization from top to bottom that we are going to revert back to the 90's Chiefs. We may be just as disappointing but even if we run a similar system (Which I doubt we will), with different owner, GM, coaches, and players, it's a completely different story. All that matters is how the team works as a whole. That's the main difference between the "couldhavebeen" 90's Chiefs and most successful franchises. That's also Pioli's primary focus.

His selection of Head Coach will go a long way in determining that. I'm confident he'll get the right guy, whoever it is. I'm still wondering why Chan Gailey is employed. It's starting to make me nervous.

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 05:16 PM
who are the eagels? i dont seem to recall them now

lol I type that in to fast Eagles :)

oaklandhater
01-30-2009, 05:19 PM
Try soccer....that could be of interest to you.

Seriously, you're really not making sense. Winning is winning. I don't care how it gets done, just win. Does that mean nothing to you?

I'm all about winning anyway anyhow I just dont think we can do it with old outdated style offense.


and the point I was trying to make was that the chiefs team now and the chiefs of the 90's are both equally worthless in my eyes and I have no desire to relive old times I want a fresh new coaching staff.

milkman
01-30-2009, 08:17 PM
People get Martyball and smashmouth football confused.

Martyball is playing not to lose.

A good smashmouth team attacks the defense with a dominating O-line, a physical hardnosed RB, and a QB that can make plays in the passing game.

They move the chains, control the clock and, most imprtantly, score points.

Joe Gibbs' Redskins with Thiesman and Riggins are the prime example of that.

DaneMcCloud
01-30-2009, 09:08 PM
People get Martyball and smashmouth football confused.

Martyball is playing not to lose.

A good smashmouth team attacks the defense with a dominating O-line, a physical hardnosed RB, and a QB that can make plays in the passing game.

They move the chains, control the clock and, most imprtantly, score points.

Joe Gibbs' Redskins with Thiesman and Riggins are the prime example of that.

So were the Cowboys with Aikman, Irvin & Smith. And the 49ers with Montana, Craig and Rice.

They may have had a "fancy" name for them like the WCO or the Coryell offense but the bottom line was that they controlled the clock and were extremely efficient on offense.

melbar
01-30-2009, 10:16 PM
Because most Chiefs fans are dumbasses that are more worried about their gameday parties/tailgates than they are about winning a championship.

13-3 means jack shit if you're not in possession of the Lombardi Trophy come February.

That's the problem with this fanbase, they are content with winning seasons that don't meet the ultimate goal.

I think your twisting the point here. I'd rather be a team that has a shot at the Lombardi every year than what we are now. Or a 1 season wonder that sucks 9 years then goes to the bowl 1 year in ten. Part of the fun is the journey. That doesnt mean that championships arent the goal. A couple of breaks go our way in the 90's instead of another teams way and we would have, or more correctly COULD have gone to the bowl. They were by in large really good teams that you could be proud of and felt could beat anyone any given week and compete for a championship any given year. When have we been able to say that in the last 10 yrs?

oaklandhater
01-31-2009, 05:52 AM
every team that runs smash mouth football on wiki


Jacksonville Jaguars
Pittsburgh Steelers
Cleveland Browns
Baltimore Ravens
University of Arkansas
Fresno State Bulldogs
Tennessee Volunteers
Iowa Hawkeyes

A smash mouth offense is the more traditional style of offense. It often results in a higher time of possession by running the ball heavily. So-called "smash-mouth football" is often run out of the I-formation, with tight ends and receivers used as blockers.

Every team I dont want to be.

missinDThomas
01-31-2009, 06:22 AM
go to arrowhead addicts. he wrote an article about teams going to the Super Bowl with either best off or best def since the 70s. 17 teams had best O and 15 teams had best D. Basically his point was you need to be the best on one side of the ball and above average on the other. I don't care what we excel at as long as I see them raise the trophy soon. I wasn't alive for SB IV

milkman
01-31-2009, 06:30 AM
I think your twisting the point here. I'd rather be a team that has a shot at the Lombardi every year than what we are now. Or a 1 season wonder that sucks 9 years then goes to the bowl 1 year in ten. Part of the fun is the journey. That doesnt mean that championships arent the goal. A couple of breaks go our way in the 90's instead of another teams way and we would have, or more correctly COULD have gone to the bowl. They were by in large really good teams that you could be proud of and felt could beat anyone any given week and compete for a championship any given year. When have we been able to say that in the last 10 yrs?

Perhaps you felt that the Chiefs of the 90s were SB contenders, but I never did.

I thought the team was good enough, but the philosophy wasn't.

oaklandhater
01-31-2009, 06:34 AM
Perhaps you felt that the Chiefs of the 90s were SB contenders, but I never did.

I thought the team was good enough, but the philosophy wasn't.

cant agree more rep

OnTheWarpath58
01-31-2009, 09:01 AM
Perhaps you felt that the Chiefs of the 90s were SB contenders, but I never did.

I thought the team was good enough, but the philosophy wasn't.

Esto.

This.

Co-signed.

Ex-fucking-actly.

melbar
01-31-2009, 09:29 AM
Perhaps you felt that the Chiefs of the 90s were SB contenders, but I never did.

I thought the team was good enough, but the philosophy wasn't.

You seriously never thought that those teams who won the second most in the entire league for the decade werent contenders? A team that continually had double digit wins and top 5 defenses? Top 5 running games? Never thought that those teams were good enough? :spock:

I'm at a loss here...

If you werent excited about the Chiefs during the years of DT, Neil Smith, Saleamua, Hasty, Carter, Cherry, Okoye, Allen, Alt, Szott, Simian, Grunhard, Deberg/Krieg/Montana, Lowrey...Why are you here?

Danman
01-31-2009, 09:37 AM
So Herm and the Chin will completely switch places? OK then, we made out like bandits.

milkman
01-31-2009, 09:37 AM
You seriously never thought that those teams who won the second most in the entire league for the decade werent contenders? A team that continually had double digit wins and top 5 defenses? Top 5 running games? Never thought that those teams were good enough? :spock:

I'm at a loss here...

If you werent excited about the Chiefs during the years of DT, Neil Smith, Saleamua, Hasty, Carter, Cherry, Okoye, Allen, Alt, Szott, Simian, Grunhard, Deberg/Krieg/Montana, Lowrey...Why are you here?

Marty had teams that could win a lot of games, but when it came playoff time, that play not to lose, don't take any risks, protect a lead approach simply wasn't good enough against playoff teams that had to win to advance.

Defense wins championships, but you still have to score more points than the other guys.

The Chiefs under Marty scored an average of about 15 points a game in the playoffs.

That ain't gonna get it done.

And I'm here because I've been a Chiefs fan for 45 years, since a I was tyke who couldn't yet tie his own shoes.

FAX
01-31-2009, 09:44 AM
Glad to see that shoe-tying problem was resolved, Mr. milkman.

Now, if we can just find a head coach with the same skill set.

FAX

melbar
01-31-2009, 10:01 AM
Marty had teams that could win a lot of games, but when it came playoff time, that play not to lose, don't take any risks, protect a lead approach simply wasn't good enough against playoff teams that had to win to advance.

Defense wins championships, but you still have to score more points than the other guys.

The Chiefs under Marty scored an average of about 15 points a game in the playoffs.

That ain't gonna get it done.

And I'm here because I've been a Chiefs fan for 45 years, since a I was tyke who couldn't yet tie his own shoes.

I didnt like the offensive playoff philosophy either,but it was still exciting thinking that each year would be the year he finally figured it out! Those teams were well coached and talented.

The Giants and Redskins won the SB with basically the same philosophy.

DJJasonp
01-31-2009, 10:13 AM
Marty had teams that could win a lot of games, but when it came playoff time, that play not to lose, don't take any risks, protect a lead approach simply wasn't good enough against playoff teams that had to win to advance.

Defense wins championships, but you still have to score more points than the other guys.

The Chiefs under Marty scored an average of about 15 points a game in the playoffs.

That ain't gonna get it done.

And I'm here because I've been a Chiefs fan for 45 years, since a I was tyke who couldn't yet tie his own shoes.

I agree with that - except marty's last year in SD...he really changed. And he definitely wasnt conservative...even in the playoff loss to new england (hell...if the charger DB drops to a knee after the INT....the chargers win that game and who knows what after that...)

milkman
01-31-2009, 10:14 AM
I didnt like the offensive playoff philosophy either,but it was still exciting thinking that each year would be the year he finally figured it out! Those teams were well coached and talented.

The Giants and Redskins won the SB with basically the same philosophy.

No they didn't.

The philosophies bore a resemblence, but they weren't the same.

The Giants and Redskins were aggressive in their approach, they played to win.

Marty played not to lose.

RedNeckRaider
01-31-2009, 10:27 AM
Glad to see that shoe-tying problem was resolved, Mr. milkman.

Now, if we can just find a head coach with the same skill set.

FAX

Good to see you! NOW WHERE IS MY CASINO CASH? :)

RedThat
01-31-2009, 10:42 AM
Milkman,

I agree with your take. you said it, the philosophy wasn't good enough.

I want and please read this carefully PART of the 90's back.

You know what I want back from the 90's? I want that mean streak back that we saw from our players. I want that passion back that we saw from our players. I want that sick attitude we saw from our players that hard nosed mentality. That hard hitting defense that every time they hit someone they tried to hit right through them.

I want back that relentless passrush we saw every time the QB took a snap. I want that defense back! The one that was so fundamentally well sound and fundamentally well coached. I want back that defense that once was a turnover machine. Basically, to put it all together, I want a sick defense.

*A lot of people may criticize the 90's and don't want it back. Not me, I want PART of it back. Not all of it but part of it. This character and attitude is an element that exists on most superbowl teams. Let us never ever forget that.

Count Zarth
01-31-2009, 10:08 PM
No one has considered these potential candidates. Jon makes a very good point, IMO:

http://kan.scout.com/2/835293.html

One thing is certain - Pioli is a creature of habit and familiarity. He is a private person and prefers to remain out of the limelight. He's not known for making friends in wide circles, which is why any head coach he hires will either come from a system similar to the one the Patriots run (3-4 defense), or will be someone Pioli has a connection to. It's virtually certain Pioli will not hire someone he's never spoken to, or worked with in the past.

This leads us to the wide speculation of who Pioli is set to hire. Shanahan, Bill Cowher, Leslie Frazier (Vikings DC) and Todd Haley (Cardinals OC) are all in the mix, apparently. Steve Spagnuolo was reportedly a candidate before he accepted the job in St. Louis.

Looking back at Pioli's history, Fresno State's Pat Hill and Virginia's Al Groh are more likely to become the next head coach of the Chiefs than the four listed previously – none of whom have a history with Pioli.

DaneMcCloud
01-31-2009, 10:44 PM
The Giants and Redskins won the SB with basically the same philosophy.

WRONG

DaneMcCloud
01-31-2009, 10:47 PM
No one has considered these potential candidates. Jon makes a very good point, IMO:

http://kan.scout.com/2/835293.html

Al Groh has massive talent each and every year in Virginia, yet they never win there conference and are never in title contention. YUCK.

Pat Hill has been passed on like Heidi Fleiss at a Playboy Mansion party. The ONLY team that would even consider hiring him is the Raiders, and even they've passed.

Danman
02-01-2009, 08:15 AM
Milkman,

I agree with your take. you said it, the philosophy wasn't good enough.

I want and please read this carefully PART of the 90's back.

You know what I want back from the 90's? I want that mean streak back that we saw from our players. I want that passion back that we saw from our players. I want that sick attitude we saw from our players that hard nosed mentality. That hard hitting defense that every time they hit someone they tried to hit right through them.

I want back that relentless passrush we saw every time the QB took a snap. I want that defense back! The one that was so fundamentally well sound and fundamentally well coached. I want back that defense that once was a turnover machine. Basically, to put it all together, I want a sick defense.

*A lot of people may criticize the 90's and don't want it back. Not me, I want PART of it back. Not all of it but part of it. This character and attitude is an element that exists on most superbowl teams. Let us never ever forget that.

Maybe our next coach won't be afraid to put his team in pads for practice during the week on Weds and Thurs to condition them to impose their will on the other team.

blueballs
02-01-2009, 08:27 AM
If on the off chance Cowher is the guy
it was done a long time ago
atleast before the last in-season game

OnTheWarpath58
02-01-2009, 08:34 AM
Maybe our next coach won't be afraid to put his team in pads for practice during the week on Weds and Thurs to condition them to impose their will on the other team.

:spock:

Name one current coach that conducts "hitting" practices during the season.

I guess you're one of those guys that think they should have water withheld from them on 90 degree days - to toughen them up?

CHIEF4EVER
02-01-2009, 09:25 AM
Maybe our next coach won't be afraid to put his team in pads for practice during the week on Weds and Thurs to condition them to impose their will on the other team.

:shake: :spock:

Yea, that's just what we need. More opportunity for injuries before each game.

KCrockaholic
02-01-2009, 09:47 AM
:spock:

Name one current coach that conducts "hitting" practices during the season.

I guess you're one of those guys that think they should have water withheld from them on 90 degree days - to toughen them up?

Ken Whisenhunt

OnTheWarpath58
02-01-2009, 09:47 AM
Ken Whisenhunt

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