Does Obama vet anyone

[HonestChieffan]

Daschel failed to pay income tax too? WTF is going on Barry, dont you think you could find someone honest to work for you?

[Laz]

yea .... cause having someone not declaring on his taxes a "free service" when a friend loans them their driver and limo while they are out of town is just so felonious.

could you be any bigger dumbass?

scratch that, of course you could.

[HonestChieffan]

"During the vetting process to become HHS secretary, Daschle corrected the tax violation, voluntarily paying $101,943 in back taxes plus interest, working with his accountant to amend his tax returns for 2005 through 2007."


Yea, no big deal...whats $100,00 grand....

Moron.

[SHTSPRAYER]

"During the vetting process to become HHS secretary, Daschle corrected the tax violation, voluntarily paying $101,943 in back taxes plus interest, working with his accountant to amend his tax returns for 2005 through 2007."


Yea, no big deal...whats $100,00 grand....

Moron.


He's a "good" German.

[memyselfI]

yea .... cause having someone not declaring on his taxes a "free service" when a friend loans them their driver and limo while they are out of town is just so felonious.

could you be any bigger dumbass?

scratch that, of course you could.

Uh, you might want to recheck your facts, Sherlock, because a simple out of town loan once or twice likely would not add up to $100k+ in unpaid taxes.

Three YEARS of 'out of town' would be more like it.

[Chief Henry]

.

could you be any bigger dumbass?






How ironic this is !

[Laz]

Uh, you might want to recheck your facts, Sherlock, because a simple out of town loan once or twice likely would not add up to $100k+ in unpaid taxes.

Three YEARS of 'out of town' would be more like it.
i'm well aware of the frequency you stupid, goat humping cunt.

apparently his friend ..... his rich friend keep a limo and driver on call even though he doesn't live in that area much. So Daschle pretty much got a free limo to use all the time.

stupid, mistake .... absolutely

but most people wouldn't of even known to claim that on their taxes ..... Daschle should of .... but lets not get carried away with the nature of it.

Dishonestchieffan just wants to throw shit to be a dick .... which is fairly normal.

but hey, you keep running to the defense of your new political party friends, stupid hag.


and yes 100k is huge to u,s but when you have millions and make millions it's really not

he paid it and deserves to get some shit for it

[Laz]

How ironic this is !
nothing ironic about you coming to the defense of another one of your inbred, GOP butt buddies.

none at all


next thing you know you guys will claim that Daschle actually had SEX or something!!! :eek:

Zomg, throw him in GITMO

[Chief Henry]

nothing ironic about you coming to the defense of another one of your inbred, GOP butt buddies.

none at all


next thing you know you guys will claim that Daschle actually had SEX or something!!! :eek:

Zomg, throw him in GITMO


How Ironic indeed.

[HonestChieffan]

Wow, such a reaction!! Laz, you are moving dipshittery to a new level on this...face the facts, you were/are clueless if you dont see something wrong when the guy keeps picking tax cheats.

[banyon]

Wow, such a reaction!! Laz, you are moving dipshittery to a new level on this...face the facts, you were/are clueless if you dont see something wrong when the guy keeps picking tax cheats.

Yeah, it's deplorable making excuses for tax cheats:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=189585&highlight=Cindy+McCain

[HonestChieffan]

Cindy McCain....ricjh and has a lot of houses...makes her a tax cheat? And was she a cabinet appointee?...

Reach baby, reach...you may be able to make that work....

Even you should know better.

[banyon]

Cindy McCain....ricjh and has a lot of houses...makes her a tax cheat? And was she a cabinet appointee?...

Reach baby, reach...you may be able to make that work....

Even you should know better.

No, not paying taxes on all those houses is what made her a tax cheat.

You really didn't know that?

http://www.newsweek.com/id/143775

And now First Families are irrelevant and off-limits?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=187607&highlight=Michelle+Obama

[HonestChieffan]

Let me hold the spear Banyon, you can dive on it and bleed in the snow on this one.

[banyon]

Let me hold the spear Banyon, you can dive on it and bleed in the snow on this one.

I don't think I've suffered any injury from your hypocrisy. Wait let me check... No, it's just you.

[SHTSPRAYER]

i'm well aware of the frequency you stupid, goat humping ****.



Frizbee? Celine?

Gig?

[jAZ]

I was a little pissed about this, not because the facts are so scandalous. They aren't really. But more because it looks stupid, it looks bad. Exactly as this thread suggests.

But then I read this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/31/us/politics/31daschle.html?hp

An administration official said Mr. Daschle’s failure to pay the taxes was “a stupid mistake.” But, the official said, Mr. Daschle should not be penalized because he had discovered the tax liability himself, paid up and brought it to the committee’s attention.

The committee report said, “Senator Daschle filed the amended returns voluntarily after Barack Obama announced his intention to nominate the senator to be the secretary of health and human services.”

The committee report said Mr. Daschle had told the committee staff that “in June 2008, something made him think that the car service might be taxable, and he disclosed the arrangement to his accountant.”

...

The Finance Committee said he failed to report consulting income of $83,333 on his 2007 tax return ...

Under his consulting arrangement with InterMedia, the report said, Mr. Daschle received $1 million a year, or $83,333 a month. The payment to Mr. Daschle for May 2007 was omitted from the annual statement of income sent to him by InterMedia. Ms. Backus said the omission resulted from “a clerical error by InterMedia.”

This is not good, but it's not as big a deal as I first thought.

[HonestChieffan]

so he only paid it when he knew he was gonna get caught....

[bkkcoh]

Daschel failed to pay income tax too? WTF is going on Barry, dont you think you could find someone honest to work for you?

Birds of a feather, flock together. I am sure that you could count the number of actual honest and law abiding congressmen on one hand, maybe have to use the second one.

[memyselfI]

This is not good, but it's not as big a deal as I first thought.

Obamba has brought change. It USED to be that tax issues or employing an illegal immigrant meant you lost your chance at being nominated to serve by the POTUS lest the president or the office be tarnished by choosing people with poor ethics or judgment. Not anymore.

Count one more promise Obamba has kept!!!! :spock::doh!::shake:

[Calcountry]

"During the vetting process to become HHS secretary, Daschle corrected the tax violation, voluntarily paying $101,943 in back taxes plus interest, working with his accountant to amend his tax returns for 2005 through 2007."


Yea, no big deal...whats $100,00 grand....

Moron.This from Senators that think we all ought to pay our fair share.

lmao.

[HonestChieffan]

This from Senators that think we all ought to pay our fair share.

lmao.


No you should pay MORE than your share so they can create welfare/tax rebate for those who produce no tax dollars.

[Calcountry]

No you should pay MORE than your share so they can create welfare/tax rebate for those who produce no tax dollars.WTF? I am going to get one of those tax rebates, er welfare checks, Gonna go by me a tv with it too.

[Calcountry]

The sooner the governement bk's the better.

[SHTSPRAYER]

nothing ironic about you coming to the defense of another one of your inbred, GOP butt buddies.

none at all


next thing you know you guys will claim that Daschle actually had SEX or something!!! :eek:

Zomg, throw him in GITMO


SARAH PALIN IS DUMB NA!

:drool:

[Bootlegged]

I was a little pissed about this, not because the facts are so scandalous. They aren't really. But more because it looks stupid, it looks bad. Exactly as this thread suggests.

But then I read this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/01/31/us/politics/31daschle.html?hp

An administration official said Mr. Daschle’s failure to pay the taxes was “a stupid mistake.” But, the official said, Mr. Daschle should not be penalized because he had discovered the tax liability himself, paid up and brought it to the committee’s attention.

The committee report said, “Senator Daschle filed the amended returns voluntarily after Barack Obama announced his intention to nominate the senator to be the secretary of health and human services.”

The committee report said Mr. Daschle had told the committee staff that “in June 2008, something made him think that the car service might be taxable, and he disclosed the arrangement to his accountant.”

...

The Finance Committee said he failed to report consulting income of $83,333 on his 2007 tax return ...

Under his consulting arrangement with InterMedia, the report said, Mr. Daschle received $1 million a year, or $83,333 a month. The payment to Mr. Daschle for May 2007 was omitted from the annual statement of income sent to him by InterMedia. Ms. Backus said the omission resulted from “a clerical error by InterMedia.”

This is not good, but it's not as big a deal as I first thought.


WAIT - IS JIZ justifying this????? :eek:

[HonestChieffan]

Liberalism is based on the idea that there is and should be No personal responsibility. If he failed to pay tax, its ok, the system failed. Hire him and help him understand.

[SHTSPRAYER]

No you should pay MORE than your share so they can create welfare/tax rebate for those who produce no tax dollars.


Well of course. How else do you expect democrats to win elections?

[Adept Havelock]

Well of course. How else do you expect democrats to win elections?

Not being one, I couldn't say for sure. I suspect the plan is letting folks like you, HCF, and the third stooge Lattimer continue to act as the public voice of the party.

Your idiocy tends to drown out more reasonable Conservative voices like patteeu, Baby Lee, Chief4Ever, Radar Chief, alanm, bunny, etc. You know...people who might actually have a chance of convincing people to support their cause. ;)

[Calcountry]

Liberalism is based on the idea that there is and should be No personal responsibility. If he failed to pay tax, its ok, the system failed. Hire him and help him understand.Right, I should be able to screw any ho, any where any time without reprecussion, unless the broad saves my dna, then I have to pay and pay big time, other than that, if I can slip out the back jack, make a little plan stan, then she can get her stuff free, from the government that is.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Not being one, I couldn't say for sure. I suspect the plan is letting folks like you, HCF, and the third stooge Lattimer continue to act as the public voice of the party.

Your idiocy tends to drown out more reasonable Conservative voices like patteeu, Baby Lee, Chief4Ever, Radar Chief, alanm, bunny, etc. You know...people who might actually have a chance of convincing people to support their cause. ;)

But is it non-falsifiable?

[Adept Havelock]

Right, I should be able to screw any ho, any where any time without reprecussion,

Are you calling for the decriminalization of rape? :p


The best rape is the rape you don't know is happening.

But is it non-falsifiable?

Thanks for reinforcing my point. Keep saying that, and perhaps someday enough of your neurons will fire in sequence and you'll understand the term. :thumb:

[SHTSPRAYER]

B.O. needs to apply the scientific method to his vetting process.

[Cannibal]

B.O. needs to apply the scientific method to his vetting process.

You should apply it to slicing your own throat with a straight razor.

[Adept Havelock]

B.O. needs to apply the scientific method to his vetting process.

You need to apply some functioning brain cells to your posting process. Call it a wash. :shrug:

[SHTSPRAYER]

You should apply it to slicing your own throat with a straight razor.


Slow down, Billy. You remember what happened last time, you spun around so fast that you fell down and ripped all the stitches in your head.

[Simplex3]

Let's face it, if the tax laws are so fucking hard to understand that the assholes WHO WRITE THEM can't get them paid right then there just might be a problem. Anyone want to disagree with that?

It's either that or Daschel is is a crook and Obama doesn't care. Take your pick.

[BigRedChief]

Dude, it took 1.5 years to get my clearance. Of course they have more people vetting the cabinet members than myself but still its complicated and lengthy.

[banyon]

Let's face it, if the tax laws are so ****ing hard to understand that the assholes WHO WRITE THEM can't get them paid right then there just might be a problem. Anyone want to disagree with that?

It's either that or Daschel is is a crook and Obama doesn't care. Take your pick.

The code is WAY too complex. I'm fully behind some simplification.

[HonestChieffan]

Obamas simple approach...Do you have a job...are you paid...send it to washington, we will give you what we think you need. Thank you comrade.

[banyon]

Obamas simple approach...Do you have a job...are you paid...send it to washington, we will give you what we think you need. Thank you comrade.

Yeah, OBAMA = Communist, All income to government! Hilarious.

[Simplex3]

The code is WAY too complex. I'm fully behind some simplification.

I'm fully behind a TON of simplification. Problem is they can't do it because if it's simple they (both R's and D's) can't pander to their pet groups without it being obvious to those who are being left out.

[mlyonsd]

If Dashcle does't fall on his sword on this one Obama needs to tell him to forget it. A Senate majority leader that can't figure out what he owes in taxes? Yea Obama, Daschle is the change we were all looking for. Dispicable.

If this were a Republican nominee from a Republican president the media wouldn't rest until they were hung by a tree.

[Brock]

If this were a Republican nominee from a Republican president the media wouldn't rest until they were hung by a tree.

Jaz's head would be exploding over this and Geithner.

[alanm]

Daschel failed to pay income tax too? WTF is going on Barry, dont you think you could find someone honest to work for you?It would seem that being properly vetted only applies to Republicans.

To the democrats it seems to be something different entirely. :spock:

[mlyonsd]

Jaz's head would be exploding over this and Geithner.

Am I the only one that thinks it's f'ing hysterical the leader of the IRS doesn't know how to pay his own taxes?

That just boggles my mind.

[memyselfI]

Let's face it, if the tax laws are so ****ing hard to understand that the assholes WHO WRITE THEM can't get them paid right then there just might be a problem. Anyone want to disagree with that?

It's either that or Daschel is is a crook and Obama doesn't care. Take your pick.

I think it's Daschle is a crook and Obomba doesn't care. He didn't care with Gaithner either. :doh!:

[alanm]

Obamba has brought change. It USED to be that tax issues or employing an illegal immigrant meant you lost your chance at being nominated to serve by the POTUS lest the president or the office be tarnished by choosing people with poor ethics or judgment. Not anymore.

Count one more promise Obamba has kept!!!! :spock::doh!::shake:
Not true. At least you're being told their dirty before the nomination. ROFL

[SHTSPRAYER]

Am I the only one that thinks it's f'ing hysterical the leader of the IRS doesn't know how to pay his own taxes?

That just boggles my mind.


Welcome to hope and change!

[Direckshun]

Any notion that conservatives or Republicans have the higher ground when it comes to vetting, a mere three months after you just had Sarah fucking Palin on the ticket, is ludicris.

[Brock]

Any notion that conservatives or Republicans have the higher ground when it comes to vetting, a mere three months after you just had Sarah ****ing Palin on the ticket, is ludicris.

And that somehow makes these choices good.

[Buster Hymen]

To me, the fact that he didn't pay his taxes isn't as disturbing as the fact that people defend him without question. Americans truely are sheep.

[dirk digler]

I was willing to let the Geither tax problem slide but having 2 in a row is a problem. In fact I think Obama should withdraw Daschle.

[Direckshun]

And that somehow makes these choices good.

Unless you can link directly to one post where you criticized McCain's selection of Palin, we both know what this all is.

[Direckshun]

I was willing to let the Geither tax problem slide but having 2 in a row is a problem. In fact I think Obama should withdraw Daschle.
Daschle is a great name for universal healthcare, but yeah this is a huge tax problem, rather than a comparably passable one with Geithner.

Daschle should be done, which is regrettable because he was probably the best man for the job.

However. There are still a host of names that could replace him. Unlike Geithner's elite economical mind, Daschle's intelligence and enthusiasm for healthcare is much easier to replace within the ranks of the Democratic Party, which is just loaded with people.

The one that darts out to my mind is Howard Dean. He's a former physician, ran Vermont as governor for a couple terms, already GOT THEM universal healthcare, and of course his grassroots, Internet-utilizing, 50-states strategy is one of the biggest reasons Obama's in office right now.

[Brock]

Unless you can link directly to one post where you criticized McCain's selection of Palin, we both know what this all is.

That's an amazing leap of logic, and some incredible contortion to excuse behavior you would have been roasting Bush for. Utterly retarded.

[Direckshun]

That's an amazing leap of logic, and some incredible contortion to excuse behavior you would have been roasting Bush for. Utterly retarded.

I'm not excusing anything. Pull your head out of your ass.

You guys don't give a shit about vetting. You give a shit about giving Obama shit. Period.

[Brock]

I'm not excusing anything. Pull your head out of your ass.

You guys don't give a shit about vetting. You give a shit about giving Obama shit. Period.

I don't know who "you guys" are, but I don't have a problem with Obama and I never did. You're so used to being a partisan hypocrite you can't help but ascribe your "qualities" to other people to make yourself seem rational.

[Direckshun]

I don't know who "you guys" are, but I don't have a problem with Obama and I never did. You're so used to being a partisan hypocrite you can't help but ascribe your "qualities" to other people to make yourself seem rational.

You don't follow my posts apparently, so I'm not going to worry about defending my record here.

But we both know why this thread exists, and it's not out of genuine concern for vetting in the executive branch.

[Brock]

You don't follow my posts apparently, so I'm not going to worry about defending my record here.

But we both know why this thread exists, and it's not out of genuine concern for vetting in the executive branch.

What's your motivation for glossing it over?

[Direckshun]

What's your motivation for glossing it over?

Did I or did I not just endorse dropping Daschle with a four paragraph post?

[Direckshun]

By the way, this scandal means Republicans like Daschle a lot more than anyone in the army of people who could easily replace him.

They know universal healthcare is coming no matter who's the Secretary of HHS, so they'll raise a stink about this scandal, confirm him anyway, and then when universal healthcare comes, they'll use this particular scandal as a way of painting the whole system as too corrupt for it.

The devil you know beats the devil you don't.

[Simplex3]

Any notion that conservatives or Republicans have the higher ground when it comes to vetting, a mere three months after you just had Sarah fucking Palin on the ticket, is ludicris.

"They're dumb too!" That's the argument you're going with? Really?

[Simplex3]

...Unlike Geithner's elite economical mind,

ROFL

[dirk digler]

This is funny.

The new RNC Chairman, Michael Steele is calling for the Republicans to bash Daschle because of the tax problem but he is the last person to be doing this.

While Daschle’s failure to pay the appropriate amount of taxes is a serious issue, perhaps Steele is not the best messenger on the issue of personal financial responsibility. In 2002, the Washington Post reported “two banks have filed foreclosure proceedings in the past year against Steele and his wife, Andrea, after they failed to make payments on their mortgage and a home equity loan last year. The loans, totaling about $ 96,000, listed the Steeles’ townhouse in Largo as collateral, a property that is valued for tax purposes at $ 115,110, according to court and tax records.”

[Direckshun]

"They're dumb too!" That's the argument you're going with? Really?
No.

[mlyonsd]

This is funny.

The new RNC Chairman, Michael Steele is calling for the Republicans to bash Daschle because of the tax problem but he is the last person to be doing this.

For Daschle's sake he better find a job out in Washington. Here back at home we don't look kindly to elite type tax dodgers.

[dirk digler]

For Daschle's sake he better find a job out in Washington. Here back at home we don't look kindly to elite type tax dodgers.

He should remove himself or Obama should do it for him but I doubt it will happen.

[Direckshun]

He should remove himself or Obama should do it for him but I doubt it will happen.

Republicans don't want it to happen.

They just want us to want it to happen, and then they'll confirm him.

[dirk digler]

Republicans don't want it to happen.

They just want us to want it to happen, and then they'll confirm him.

That is probably correct. Just like all the huffing and puffing about Holder and he is going to be confirmed tonight.

[Direckshun]

That is probably correct. Just like all the huffing and puffing about Holder and he is going to be confirmed tonight.

Basically. There is a smaller pool of bright minds and abilities who could replace Holder, whereas the Democrats are incredibly deep behind Daschle. But the Republicans know they are going to end up with clones of Holder and Daschle no matter what at this point, so they'll just do everything they can to raise a stink and discredit them while confirming them, so they'll have a shot at winning public opinion when universal healthcare or, for Holder, charges against the Bush administration emerge.

[Mr. Flopnuts]

Daschel failed to pay income tax too? WTF is going on Barry, dont you think you could find someone honest to work for you?

LMAO Coming from a W. fan that's rich. But then again, you hate poor people, so it's no surprise that you loathe all things Obama.

[HonestChieffan]

Why is the issue debate over party? Isn't it enough he is a tax cheat?

[Direckshun]

Why is the issue debate over party? Isn't it enough he is a tax cheat?

Sure it is. But that's not why you posted this thread.

[Direckshun]

Holder confirmed. Only 24 voted against. Likely all Republicans.

No word yet on the roll call.

[Simplex3]

No.

Then you'll need to expand upon your statements, because that was all I got.

[Simplex3]

Why is the issue debate over party? Isn't it enough he is a tax cheat?

No. He's their tax cheat. Makes it totally different.

[Direckshun]

Then you'll need to expand upon your statements, because that was all I got.

This thread is a laugh at someone who slipped and fell in a wet puddle, on behalf of a bunch of folks who slipped and fell in a tub of urine.

[Simplex3]

This thread is a laugh at someone who slipped and fell in a wet puddle, on behalf of a bunch of folks who slipped and fell in a tub of urine.

Both sides of the thing have an awful ammonia-like smell. Some are just more used to their own brand.

[ClevelandBronco]

...you hate poor people, so it's no surprise that you loathe all things Obama.

Pres. Obama is poor?

Thanks for the heads up, Flopnuts. Where can I send some coin?

[alanm]

Pres. Obama is poor?

Thanks for the heads up, Flopnuts. Where can I send some coin?His minions know where to find you.

[ClevelandBronco]

His minions know where to find you.

Damn. I thought they stopped all that.

[banyon]

They'll carve a "B" in your face if you don't watch out.

[ClevelandBronco]

"They" know who I am. "They" know where I am. "They" know what I think.

I desperately want to return to the days when "they" had no clue.

[Direckshun]

Both sides of the thing have an awful ammonia-like smell. Some are just more used to their own brand.

How about we just surrender to the idea that VETTING PEOPLE IS HARD.

[SHTSPRAYER]

They'll carve a "B" in your face if you don't watch out.

Kind of like when libtards hang nooses around their own doors.

:rolleyes:

[Simplex3]

How about we just surrender to the idea that VETTING PEOPLE IS HARD.

How about we slow the fuck down and try to get this shit right instead of getting just any old thing fast?

[petegz28]

nothing ironic about you coming to the defense of another one of your inbred, GOP butt buddies.

none at all


next thing you know you guys will claim that Daschle actually had SEX or something!!! :eek:

Zomg, throw him in GITMO

In other words...as long as it is a Dem evading taxes, Laz the Tard says it is ok.

[dirk digler]

Looks like another Obama nominee has tax problems and has withdrawn her name.

Geez wtf is up with people and not paying taxes?

Nancy Killefer, who failed for a year and a half to pay employment taxes on household help, has withdrawn her candidacy to be the first chief performance officer for the federal government, the White House said Tuesday. Killefer was the second major Obama administration nominee to withdraw and the third to have tax problems complicate their nomination after President Barack Obama announced their selection.

[ChiTown]

More Tax issues:

:shake:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5123ZE20090203

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama's choice to oversee budget and spending reform, Nancy Killefer, has withdrawn her nomination, the White House said on Tuesday.

"She has withdrawn and we accepted her withdrawal," a White House spokesman told reporters.

U.S. media reported Killefer was withdrawing because of tax problems. The spokesman declined to comment on the reasons and said more information would come later.

Tax problems are plaguing Tom Daschle, the former Senate majority leader selected by Obama to spearhead U.S. healthcare reform. Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's nomination was also held up for tax issues, although he was eventually confirmed.

Killefer, a director at management consulting firm McKinsey & Company and a former assistant Treasury secretary in the Clinton administration, was to work with economic officials to increase efficiencies and eliminate waste in government spending.

Obama repeatedly promised that his administration would go "line by line" over its budgets with a focus on fiscal responsibility even as he seeks huge amounts of money to stimulate the U.S. economy.

[jAZ]

More Tax issues:

:shake:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5123ZE20090203


The "funny" thing is, that this issue was known about at the time of her nomination.

http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/news/2009/02/official_performance_czar_withdraws_candidacy_2.php

When her selection was announced by Obama on Jan. 7, The Associated Press disclosed that in 2005 the District of Columbia government had filed a $946.69 tax lien on her home for failure to pay unemployment compensation tax on household help.


Amazingly she cost herself this opportunity over $300.

The AP reported that on March 7, 2005, the D.C. Department of Employment Services slapped a tax lien on her home in the tony Wesley Heights neighborhood. The local government alleged that just three years after she left the high-powered Treasury post she began to fail to pay unemployment compensation tax for a household employee. And she failed to make the required quarterly payments for a year and half, whereupon a lien for $946.69 was placed on her home.

That sum included $298 in unpaid taxes, $48.69 in interest and $600 in penalties. The lien was filed March 7, 2005, but Killefer didn't get the lien extinguished for almost five months, not until July 29.

[Brock]

Elevating incompetence is okay as long as my guy is doing it /CP democrats

[mlyonsd]

Elevating incompetence is okay as long as my guy is doing it /CP democrats

Careful or they'll get their Palin joke books back out.

[mlyonsd]

FOX reported last night neither Daschle or Geithner paid any penalties for the taxes they owed.

That's a crock of chit.

[dirk digler]

Elevating incompetence is okay as long as my guy is doing it /CP democrats

Who is in support of elevating incompetence?

[jAZ]

Elevating incompetence is okay as long as my guy is doing it /CP democrats

Ummm... no.

[Mr. Kotter]

Who is in support of elevating incompetence?


There sure are a lot of loud mouth liberal types here from W's years that are.....mysteriously quiet about incidents that would have had them hoopin' and hollering, just a few months ago.

Now, nothin' but "crickets" from them. :hmmm:

If you are honest, you gotta admit that.

Just sayin'...... :shrug:

Ummm... no.

I present, Exhibit "A"

[Brock]

Who is in support of elevating incompetence?

You certainly don't seem to have a problem with it nowadays.

[Brock]

Ummm... no.

I guess I missed your usual 11 topics per day that you know you'd be putting up if these were Bush appointees.

[Mr. Kotter]

I guess I missed your usual 11 topics per day that you know you'd be putting up if these were Bush appointees.


Yup. Exactly.

[jAZ]

FOX reported last night neither Daschle or Geithner paid any penalties for the taxes they owed.

That's a crock of chit.
Crock of chit indeed. Stop listening to Sean Hannity.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/01/30/AR2009013003793_pf.html

Thomas A. Daschle, nominated to be secretary of the Department of Health and Human Services, did not pay more than $128,000 in taxes over three years, a revelation that poses a potential obstacle to his Senate confirmation.

The back taxes, along with $12,000 in interest and penalties, involved unreported consulting fees, questionable charitable contributions, and a car and driver provided by a private equity firm run by entrepreneur and longtime Democratic Party donor Leo J. Hindery Jr., according to a confidential draft report prepared by Senate Finance Committee staff.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Tom Daschle is the only one that can save us! Pray for his health!

[dirk digler]

You certainly don't seem to have a problem with it nowadays.

Go back and read page 2 where I said either Obama should remove Daschle or Daschle should remove himself.

Then get back to me on your statement

[jAZ]

I guess I missed your usual 11 topics per day that you know you'd be putting up if these were Bush appointees.

I was on my way to post the full version of the story I quoted, when I saw 2 others had already been there.

I've been trying to be intellectually honest about these stories for exactly that reason.

[dirk digler]

There sure are a lot of loud mouth liberal types here from W's years that are.....mysteriously quiet about incidents that would have had them hoopin' and hollering, just a few months ago.

Now, nothin' but "crickets" from them. :hmmm:

If you are honest, you gotta admit that.

Just sayin'...... :shrug:



I present, Exhibit "A"

That is the way it works on both sides but yeah I agree with you.

You will notice when Obama does something good the crickets could come out from the people on the right hiding as well.

Just sayin........:shrug:

[dirk digler]

Tom Daschle is the only one that can save us! Pray for his health!

I thought you were leaving? did you get your job back?

[Brock]

I was on my way to post the full version of the story I quoted, when I saw 2 others had already been there.

I've been trying to be intellectually honest about these stories for exactly that reason.

Pffft.ROFL

[Mr. Kotter]

I've been trying to be intellectually honest about these stories for exactly that reason.

:spock:


heh....


LMAO ROFL LMAO ROFL



LMAO

[jAZ]

FOX reported last night neither Daschle or Geithner paid any penalties for the taxes they owed.

That's a crock of chit.

http://www.dcexaminer.com/business/Senate_confirms_Geithner_for_Treasury_post_.html

The Senate on Monday confirmed New York Federal Reserve Bank chief Timothy Geithner as President Barack Obama's treasury secretary despite tax problems that might have sunk his nomination in less desperate times.

The 60-34 vote, in which handfuls of Republicans and Democrats voted against their party leaders, put Geithner at the helm of Obama's economic team as it races to halt the worst financial slide in generations.

In swift order reflecting the urgency, Obama was expected to attend Geithner's swearing in Monday evening at the Treasury Department. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Geithner has made amends — he has paid the taxes and penalties — and possesses the talent the nation needs to steer the nation out of the crisis.

[SHTSPRAYER]

I thought you were leaving? did you get your job back?


Yeah, I'm building windmills now.

[dirk digler]

Yeah, I'm building windmills now.

Seriously? If so congrats.

[dirk digler]

Go back and read page 2 where I said either Obama should remove Daschle or Daschle should remove himself.

Then get back to me on your statement

**********CRICKETS**********************

**********CRICKETS********************

[mlyonsd]

http://www.dcexaminer.com/business/Senate_confirms_Geithner_for_Treasury_post_.html
The Senate on Monday confirmed New York Federal Reserve Bank chief Timothy Geithner as President Barack Obama's treasury secretary despite tax problems that might have sunk his nomination in less desperate times.

The 60-34 vote, in which handfuls of Republicans and Democrats voted against their party leaders, put Geithner at the helm of Obama's economic team as it races to halt the worst financial slide in generations.

In swift order reflecting the urgency, Obama was expected to attend Geithner's swearing in Monday evening at the Treasury Department. White House spokesman Robert Gibbs said Geithner has made amends — he has paid the taxes and penalties — and possesses the talent the nation needs to steer the nation out of the crisis.


So I wonder which one it is.

[Buster Hymen]

Daschle withdraws his nomination.

Next criminal please...

[jAZ]

I guess I missed your usual 11 topics per day that you know you'd be putting up if these were Bush appointees.

Actually, this is the sort of minor by comparison objection that I have publicly generally tried brush off even with Bush. There is no doubt that I have a long list of issues that I hooted and hollered about... and I still do to this day. This is nothing compared to false intelligence, failure to take terrorism seriously at the start of the administration, trying to hijack election by politicizing the DOJ, domestic spying, endless incompetence in executing the War in Iraq...

Now maybe if it were Sarah Palin, or something, where such an action was part of a on-going, "WTF?!?" storyline, yeah, I'd make a bigger issue out of it than I am here. No doubt.

But not with Bush, much larger objections to deal with there.

I think Obama should operate with a greater standard of competence that I have real objections to all of this nonsense. It doesn't look good, it makes me wonder WTF is going on there.

[dirk digler]

Daschle withdraws his nomination.



Good.

[dirk digler]

Hopefully Obama will pick Howard Dean as long as he doesn't have any tax problems.

[stevieray]

Pffft.ROFL

no kidding.

[jAZ]

Hopefully Obama will pick Howard Dean as long as he doesn't have any tax problems.
Exactly.

He's been pretty well vetted, that's for sure.

My understanding, though, is that he picked Daschle because of his strong relationships in Congress and thus the ability to help get healthcare through Congress.

The left actually hated the Daschle nomination because he had such strong connections to the healthcare industry. I'll be curious to see who's next.

[JonesCrusher]

Will any of these people be prosecuted for tax evasion or do they just get to say oops and call that good.

[jAZ]

Will any of these people be prosecuted for tax evasion or do they just get to say oops and call that good.

Was listening to a lawyer the other day on the radio talking about this story tangently, and he made the point that the IRS is acually very lenient unless you are an ass about it. If you try to get over on them, they get tough on you, but if you come clean, and try to work with them, they will basically bend over backwards to accomodate your situation. As long as you are working to pay your debt, they have no interest in prosecuting.

The suggestion was that these guys aren't getting treated any differently than the average joe does, who comes to them, admit error, and pays in full right away.

[stevieray]

Was listening to a lawyer the other day on the radio talking about this story tangently, and he made the point that the IRS is acually very lenient unless you are an ass about it. If you try to get over on them, they get tough on you, but if you come clean, and try to work with them, they will basically bend over backwards to accomodate your situation. As long as you are working to pay your debt, they have no interest in prosecuting.

The suggestion was that these guys aren't getting treated any differently than the average joe does, who comes to them, admit error, and pays in full right away.

comes to them?

ROFL

[dirk digler]

comes to them?

ROFL

In the case of Geithner and now Daschle they both came forward. The IRS had no idea.

[stevieray]

In the case of Geithner and now Daschle they both came forward. The IRS had no idea.

ROFL

[dirk digler]

ROFL

You realize they have had these problems for several years don't you? If the IRS had known then they would have had liens put against them or whatever happens to people that the IRS catches.

[banyon]

Was listening to a lawyer the other day on the radio talking about this story tangently, and he made the point that the IRS is acually very lenient unless you are an ass about it. If you try to get over on them, they get tough on you, but if you come clean, and try to work with them, they will basically bend over backwards to accomodate your situation. As long as you are working to pay your debt, they have no interest in prosecuting.

The suggestion was that these guys aren't getting treated any differently than the average joe does, who comes to them, admit error, and pays in full right away.

This has been my experience with clients previously (minimally) too.

[Simplex3]

Was listening to a lawyer the other day on the radio talking about this story tangently, and he made the point that the IRS is acually very lenient unless you are an ass about it. If you try to get over on them, they get tough on you, but if you come clean, and try to work with them, they will basically bend over backwards to accomodate your situation. As long as you are working to pay your debt, they have no interest in prosecuting.

The suggestion was that these guys aren't getting treated any differently than the average joe does, who comes to them, admit error, and pays in full right away.

It took me well over a year of screwing with the IRS and a $500 penalty (which they ever so graciously waived when I said 'fine, take me to court') because an ex-business partner of mine didn't pay his taxes. The IRS is an abomination.

[Saul Good]

It took me well over a year of screwing with the IRS and a $500 penalty (which they ever so graciously waived when I said 'fine, take me to court') because an ex-business partner of mine didn't pay his taxes. The IRS is an abomination.
I favor a law requiring all legislators to do their own taxes by hand. No professional help. No tax software. Just tax forms and a hard copy of the tax code. Think the tax laws might change then?

Of course, I also think that all of their children should have to go to public schools, too.

[Simplex3]

I favor a law requiring all legislators to do their own taxes by hand. No professional help. No tax software. Just tax forms and a hard copy of the tax code. Think the tax laws might change then?

Of course, I also think that all of their children should have to go to public schools, too.

Forcing them to use Social Security would be good too.

[Saul Good]

Forcing them to use Social Security would be good too.

Damned straight. Let them go to free clinics for their health care.

[Brock]

It took me well over a year of screwing with the IRS and a $500 penalty (which they ever so graciously waived when I said 'fine, take me to court') because an ex-business partner of mine didn't pay his taxes. The IRS is an abomination.

I remember vividly the first time I was audited. The guy I was dealing with was okay until I said something about "the law" that I had researched at the library, and he stopped me and said, with a sweeping motion of his hand toward and across the expanse of shelves of books behind his desk, "THIS is the law". I ended up walking out with a check for 300 dollars, but I wouldn't say the IRS is ever nice to deal with.

[Simplex3]

I remember vividly the first time I was audited. The guy I was dealing with was okay until I said something about "the law" that I had researched at the library, and he stopped me and said, with a sweeping motion of his hand toward and across the expanse of shelves of books behind his desk, "THIS is the law". I ended up walking out with a check for 300 dollars, but I wouldn't say the IRS is ever nice to deal with.

Never question a government employee. Every time I have they made it their mission to prove how much power they had.

[SHTSPRAYER]

Obama is a fuqtard. He's in way over his head, and this country is about to go into a tailspin.

[Simplex3]

Obama is a fuqtard. He's in way over his head, and this country is about to go into a tailspin.

That's different than the last two decades how?

[jAZ]

It took me well over a year of screwing with the IRS and a $500 penalty (which they ever so graciously waived when I said 'fine, take me to court') because an ex-business partner of mine didn't pay his taxes. The IRS is an abomination.

That story is in no way analogous to this situation or the ones I described.

[banyon]

Obama is a fuqtard. He's in way over his head, and this country is about to go into a tailspin.


Hey, really great prediction. I love how you backed this up so thoroughly. We'll just take your word for it, right? Like when you told us Obama couldn't win the election?

[SHTSPRAYER]

http://www.moonbattery.com/janet-reno_david-ogden.jpg

[Simplex3]

That story is in no way analogous to this situation or the ones I described.

Your statement was that the IRS is reasonable. I had an experience with them where they screwed with me for a year because someone ELSE hadn't filed their taxes. That doesn't say "reasonable" to me.