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Tertullian
02-02-2009, 12:17 PM
The Chiefs are expected to formally interview Cardinals OC Todd Haley about their head-coaching vacancy this week.
Haley is so widely expected to get the job that multiple minority candidates have turned down interview offers, which GM Scott Pioli will still need to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Pioli should be able to come up with a minority coach from somewhere, but it won't be someone who takes the interview seriously. Feb. 2 - 12:50 pm et

From: Rotoworld.

Jilly
02-02-2009, 12:19 PM
I dn't know who you are, but love your username

blueballs
02-02-2009, 12:28 PM
Was there alot of minority canidates walking around the Super Bowl
bragging they turned down a KC HC interview
what's Romo's minority status -villiage idiot-roid rage survivor

Der Flöprer
02-02-2009, 12:31 PM
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

DeezNutz
02-02-2009, 12:35 PM
Pioli should be able to come up with a minority coach from somewhere, but it won't be someone who takes the interview seriously.

Yeah, because Mike Tomlin indicates that a give-a-shit attitude would be the best approach.

blueballs
02-02-2009, 12:38 PM
Where's Norm Chow

R&GHomer
02-02-2009, 12:39 PM
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

No kidding, if that is really the case, then the rule is flawed. What if no minorities wanted to interview.... we go without a coach! :rolleyes:

blueballs
02-02-2009, 12:42 PM
Maybe they've already hired a minority canidate
a rumor yet to run amuck on the airwaves
connects the dots as well as any other rumor

kysirsoze
02-02-2009, 12:43 PM
At least if they've made an effort to satisfy the Rooney Rule, it won't look so bad if they have to pay the fine for breaking it. I think the money's not as much of an issue as the bad press.

bowener
02-02-2009, 12:48 PM
At least if they've made an effort to satisfy the Rooney Rule, it won't look so bad if they have to pay the fine for breaking it. I think the money's not as much of an issue as the bad press.

Agreed. And maybe the press generated from our possible situation is what we need to get this Rooney rule fixed or amended. It has its flaws, but sadly it is based in a reality that showed it was necessary, and looking at the NCAA, is still necessary.

ChiefRon
02-02-2009, 12:50 PM
Who says we haven't already interviewed people, including a minority candidate? At this point, I don't think we'll know until it's over, if then.

DaWolf
02-02-2009, 12:53 PM
Well, that's the excuse Detroit used when they hired Mooch, and they still got lambasted for it.

Wouldn't it be ironic if an organization that has now supposedly become "leak free" actually couldn't get a minority interview because the biggest leak had gotten out? Should be interesting to see how this is actually playing out behind the scenes. Either Pioli has shrewdly already satisfied this requirement or will satisfy the requirement, or this is a major slip-up by him as a first time GM, or there's something in the rules that the Chiefs have complied with that we don't know yet...

CupidStunt
02-02-2009, 12:53 PM
I've seen nothing credible to suggest a single minority candidate has ACTUALLY declined to interview.

Every single word that comes out about our HC search is speculation.

Micjones
02-02-2009, 12:53 PM
I find it very hard to believe that Pioli won't play this by the book.
I bet he's interviewed someone already.

Hog Farmer
02-02-2009, 01:04 PM
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

bkkcoh
02-02-2009, 01:08 PM
They kept the GM search under wraps very well, why would the head coach search be the same way?

pr_capone
02-02-2009, 01:11 PM
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

ROFL

I'm guessing that Herm interviewed to keep his job and that satisfies the Rooney Rule. I highly doubt Pioli is going to gaff this right off the bat.

And if he does, and we have to pay 200k for the coach we want. Then so be it. At least we aren't giving up draft picks again.

oaklandhater
02-02-2009, 01:13 PM
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

WOW this should be a bannable offense I dont agree with the romney rule or even Affirmative action but to talk shit about Martin Luther king is low even for you.

NY CHIEF
02-02-2009, 01:13 PM
What about obama........he picked the right team to win the super bowl ROFL

missinDThomas
02-02-2009, 01:14 PM
HALEY’S IMMEDIATE PLANS: GOING TO PRO BOWL
Posted by Aaron Wilson on February 2, 2009, 1:21 p.m.
The reported frontrunner to become the Kansas City Chiefs’ successor to fired coach Herm Edwards has no immediate plans to sit down with Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli, according to the Kansas City Star.

Unless Todd Haley is taking a detour to Kansas City on his way to Hawaii, site of the Pro Bowl, or Pioli is going to fly out to the land of luaus to meet with the Arizona Cardinals’ offensive coordinator, then the Chiefs’ head coaching search appears to still be in a holding pattern.

Following the Cardinals’ Super Bowl loss to the Pittsburgh Steelers, Haley said he plans to attend the Pro Bowl this week as a guest of quarterback Kurt Warner and wide receivers Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin.

“I have no plans,” Haley told the Star when asked if he was going to interview in Kansas City this week. “The quarterback and receivers have invited a bunch of us to go to the Pro Bowl. That’s what I’m thinking about. It might take my mind off of this right now.”

Haley added that he hasn’t spoken to Pioli, a former colleague with the New York Jets back in the 1990s.

“As I’ve said for the last two weeks, my focus has been on this game, which is the biggest game I’ve ever been involved in,” Haley said. “That is what I have told my agent, to not talk to anybody, and that’s what I’ve done.”

Of course, since Pioli has already demonstrated that he’s more than willing to tell friends and former teachers to not discuss personal anecdotes about himself with nosy reporters, it’s not out of the realm of possibility that the Chiefs’ personnel boss might have already instructed Haley to keep his mouth shut about Chiefs business.

Or, should we say, none of your business.

pr_capone
02-02-2009, 01:15 PM
WOW this should be a bannable offense I dont agree with the romney rule or even Affirmative action but to talk shit about Martin Luther king is low even for you.

Its tongue in cheek...

anyhow, hogfarmer is black so its ok for him to say that.

:)

BTW, is MLK untouchable that people can't joke at his expense?


What about Rosa Parks?

Malcom X?

Is it just the black people who were famous for the civil rights movement that are untouchable or can we not laugh about Thomas Jefferson and his oddities because he was important too?

Sure-Oz
02-02-2009, 01:17 PM
James Earl Ray tried to stop all this bullshit . Now you see the problems MLK caused!

:doh!:

Hog Farmer
02-02-2009, 01:18 PM
WOW this should be a bannable offense I dont agree with the romney rule or even Affirmative action but to talk shit about Martin Luther king is low even for you.


Why ? People talk shit about George Bush and he was President of the United States.

Hog Farmer
02-02-2009, 01:19 PM
Its tongue in cheek...

anyhow, hogfarmer is black so its ok for him to say that.

:)

That is not supposed to be public knowledge, sir!

pr_capone
02-02-2009, 01:20 PM
That is not supposed to be public knowledge, sir!

oh shit... sorry :doh!:

Chiefs Pantalones
02-02-2009, 01:20 PM
Why the fuck do they even have this Rooney rule? If he's qualified, he'll get the job, black or white or green or whatever color they are. Who gives a shit about color, this isn't 1950 anymore, give me a fucking break.

Sure-Oz
02-02-2009, 01:21 PM
That is not supposed to be public knowledge, sir!

http://www.geocities.com/northernvirginiastan/images/101_chappelle_m4.jpg

Dinny Blues
02-02-2009, 01:25 PM
Who says we haven't already interviewed people, including a minority candidate? At this point, I don't think we'll know until it's over, if then.



I couldn't agree with you more, Ron.

Dinny

Sully
02-02-2009, 01:25 PM
ROFL

I'm guessing that Herm interviewed to keep his job and that satisfies the Rooney Rule. I highly doubt Pioli is going to gaff this right off the bat.

And if he does, and we have to pay 200k for the coach we want. Then so be it. At least we aren't giving up draft picks again.

According to Schefter several weeks ago, this does not satisfy the rule.

Tuckdaddy
02-02-2009, 01:41 PM
We just had a "minority" coach and that should make us exempt from having to interview one.

Darth CarlSatan
02-02-2009, 01:50 PM
Why ? People talk shit about George Bush and he was President of the United States.

But skin color doesn't factor as high when you're discussing an absolute moron.:evil:

oaklandhater
02-02-2009, 01:52 PM
I just dont think its right to make fun of some on who was assassinated

JFK
MLK

Make fun of GWB all you want I dont care at all....

chiefscafan
02-02-2009, 02:19 PM
We had a black coach the last three years so the NFL can kiss my butt on the Rooney rule.

Reaper16
02-02-2009, 02:24 PM
http://www.geocities.com/northernvirginiastan/images/101_chappelle_m4.jpg
Flawless Victory

SPATCH
02-02-2009, 02:26 PM
i keep getting this bad feeling that haley is a fraud..

Old Dog
02-02-2009, 02:28 PM
According to Schefter several weeks ago, this does not satisfy the rule.

My question is does it not count because Herm was the incumbent HC or is it because he isn't qualified to be a HC???

tburg
02-02-2009, 02:45 PM
our HR guy is African American...I am sure he would interview for the gig

Hoover
02-02-2009, 02:55 PM
Maybe that dumb fucking interview with Obama before the SB counted?

pr_capone
02-02-2009, 05:04 PM
I just dont think its right to make fun of some on who was assassinated

JFK
MLK

Make fun of GWB all you want I dont care at all....

So I am guessing you would find the following distasteful then:

http://www.imageurlhost.com/images/hhhtflejtnl43rra4e9.jpg

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h280/headoperations/MartinLutherKingJoke.jpg

picasso
02-02-2009, 05:48 PM
Why ? People talk shit about George Bush and he was President of the United States.

Bush was the village idiot, that's the difference.

pr_capone
02-02-2009, 05:53 PM
Bush was the village idiot, that's the difference.

And MLK was an adulterer and was being watched by the FBI because of ties to communistic organizations.

MLK was no prince... or genious as he was busted plagiarizing more than once.

TEX
02-02-2009, 06:10 PM
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

Absolutely

"Bob" Dobbs
02-02-2009, 06:18 PM
But skin color doesn't factor as high when you're discussing an absolute moron.:evil:Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

Darth CarlSatan
02-02-2009, 07:16 PM
Bush was the village idiot, that's the difference.

This.

And MLK was an adulterer and was being watched by the FBI because of ties to communistic organizations.

MLK was no prince... or genious as he was busted plagiarizing more than once.

And he was assassinated by Cigarette Smoking Man from a street drain!

Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

LMAO Nice.

petegz28
02-02-2009, 07:16 PM
Who says we haven't already interviewed people, including a minority candidate? At this point, I don't think we'll know until it's over, if then.

According to KK, several minorities have turned down interviews figuring Haley was the man. So the Rooney Rule has been sasified!

Uncle_Ted
02-02-2009, 07:41 PM
Pioli has no doubt already brow-beat the NFL into repealing the Rooney Rule -- he just hasn't given them permission to tell anyone yet.

TinyEvel
02-02-2009, 07:43 PM
Can we count Herm's exit interview?

chop
02-02-2009, 07:51 PM
I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

DaFace
02-02-2009, 08:01 PM
I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

ILChief
02-02-2009, 08:13 PM
I don't see why there is a need to require teams to interview minority candidates. I think times have changed and minorities are getting more and more opportunities. Three minority coaches have taken their respective teams to the SB in recent years. That success alone should open the door for the possibility of more minority coaches.

I agree, the rule is outlived its usefulness. 2 of the last 3 super bowl winning coaches have been minorities plus the runner up year before last. The barrier has been broken.

jettio
02-02-2009, 08:53 PM
I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

Cormac
02-02-2009, 09:11 PM
No kidding, if that is really the case, then the rule is flawed. What if no minorities wanted to interview.... we go without a coach! :rolleyes:

Hey, we've been doing it for the last few years......

Cormac
02-02-2009, 09:19 PM
Which explains why an interview with Herm really doesn't count.

ROFL

Mark M
02-02-2009, 09:47 PM
I'm reading all of this (the MLK "I Have A Dreamsicle" pic was ****ing hysterical - rep to pr_capone), and ...

How long do you all think it's going to take us to get used to the lockdown at One Arrowhead Drive?

Because it's driving me nuts, and I know it's driving a lot of you nuts. I mean, how we can do mock drafts without knowing who the coach will be next year? I need to know what, exactly, to yell at Mel Kiper (other than STFU).

Even worse, the media keep speculating more than an over-eager mid-1990s hedge fund manager on a three-day coke binge. And having about as much success.

If something doesn't change, Jack Harry won't have any credibility left.

Oh, wait ...

MM
~~ROFL

Darth CarlSatan
02-02-2009, 09:48 PM
I think one of the purposes of the Rooney rule was to give black coaching prospects more experience in the interview process so that a promising assistant would be able to learn about that process and the things that are asked at an interview so that they could figure out what they need to work on to be a more viable candidate in the future.

One effect of the rule is that all young assistant coaches, white or black, are more likely to get interviews for head coaching positions because on the whole, NFL teams are interviewing more candidates for head coach when there is an opening.

Seems that the rule has had a beneficial effect for both white and black coaches and has been beneficial to the league, so it would be better to keep it in place, since keeping it in place does little harm.

Who are the people harmed by the Rooney rule?

I think it is safe to say that Lane Kiffin and Josh McDaniels would not have gotten their first NFL head coaching position at such a young age if the Rooney rule had not slowed the process down and encouraged teams to interview more candidates for each opening.

I can be as much of a pill as anyone, but it's nice now and again to hear a valid take on something besides drafting and Quarterbacks.

Mucho REP.:clap:

whoman69
02-02-2009, 10:29 PM
If they're citing the Chiefs interest in Haley as a reason to turn down the Chiefs, I'd say its pretty far from a slam dunk that they hire him as much as it was for the Lions when they went after Mariucchi. If there is now an exemption for such an event, the the Lion's situation had pretty much everything to do with it. If such an exemption exists it would protect organizations that do practice racist policies. That said, the time for the Rooney rule has passed.

OnTheWarpath58
02-02-2009, 10:31 PM
I wonder if anyone has any clue whatsoever about this whole Haley thing. Certainly no one from the Chiefs has said "yep, we're interested." Haley himself said yesterday that he hadn't talked to the Chiefs. Is there anything to this whole "expected" thing aside from pure speculation? For all anyone knows, we may not even be considering him.

This.

KCtotheSB
02-02-2009, 10:39 PM
If we attempt to interview minorities, and they refuse, that should be an exemption. Automatically.

Agreed.

I'm sick of this shit. I understand why the Rooney rule was implemented, but goddamn...just hire who's best fit for the job.

....alright, forget it, I'm done. I don't want to come off as sounding racist.