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bigkyle76
02-19-2009, 11:42 PM
I'm coming around to the idea of Haley drafting a stud receiver. and having another dynamic pair of receivers like Bouldin and Fitzgerald.Also Crabtree is a comparable player to Larry Fitzgerald in terms of how they play

RustShack
02-20-2009, 12:29 AM
http://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=202604

ChiefsCountry
02-20-2009, 12:31 AM
Crabtree is NOT LARRY FITZGERALD. Jeez dumb idiots need to learn this.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-20-2009, 01:04 AM
Crabtree lacks elite speed, therefore he's Larry Fitzgerald and not Mike Williams, JJ Stokes, or Rashaun Woods.

Frosty
02-20-2009, 01:32 AM
Crabtree lacks elite speed, therefore he's Larry Fitzgerald and not Mike Williams, JJ Stokes, or Rashaun Woods.

Rashaun Woods. LMAO

Anyone remember the absolute meltdown here when the Chiefs didn't draft him?

Mecca
02-20-2009, 01:37 AM
Rashaun Woods. LMAO

Anyone remember the absolute meltdown here when the Chiefs didn't draft him?

And people get mad when I say there is a ridiculous bias toward Big 12 players on the forum.

HC_Chief
02-20-2009, 10:59 AM
And people get mad when I say there is a ridiculous bias toward Big 12 players on the forum.

There is most definitely a bias, however Crabtree is an exceptional receiver and rated as such in most non-biased rankings.

The guy is a freak; worthy of a top 5 selection.

BTW, two of the best/most highly regarded receivers in this year's draft are from the Big XII: Crabtree (consensus #1 from the boards I've seen) and Maclin (typically ranked #2 or #3 depending on the prospect board you're reading).

MIAdragon
02-20-2009, 06:37 PM
oops did I say I was 6-3!?!? Come on 6-1 is close enough....


http://www.rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=139619&id=5135

Mecca
02-20-2009, 06:38 PM
And his stock continues to fall now he's not as big as he has speed questions...

DeezNutz
02-20-2009, 06:40 PM
I don't know why people are hating on Fitz II.

I'd rather the Chiefs trade their 2nd rounder for Boldin, but if we can get Fitz's love child, that's cool.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-20-2009, 06:40 PM
Come on!!

He's just an average sized WR with speed issues who comes from an offense where he doesn't run any pro routes or has to face any kind of bracketed coverage.

Other than that, he's ideal. He's Larry Fitzgerald.

Mecca
02-20-2009, 06:43 PM
Come on!!

He's just an average sized WR with speed issues who comes from an offense where he doesn't run any pro routes or has to face any kind of bracketed coverage.

Other than that, he's ideal. He's Larry Fitzgerald.

I got called stupid 8 times today for saying he's not an elite prospect...

I will never understand the circle jerk about that player, physically he's not any more impressive than Hakeem Nicks is.

DeezNutz
02-20-2009, 06:49 PM
I will never understand the circle jerk about that player.

It's not too difficult. He beat Texas.

Well, sort of, looking through the lens of the True Fan. Which is scary as hell and something I'd recommend strongly against, by the way.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-20-2009, 06:54 PM
http://i38.tinypic.com/2wnwdhv.jpg

DeezNutz
02-20-2009, 07:01 PM
That fat bastard never gets old.

He's going to be on standby on draft day.

B_Ambuehl
02-20-2009, 07:11 PM
A lot of folks are understandably down on Crabtree, but what gets me is why it's a given Maclin should be ranked so far ahead of those other guys. His straight line speed is impressive but he doesnt have much shake and bake to his game and has played mostly as a slot/reverse guy offensively.

Mecca
02-20-2009, 07:12 PM
A lot of folks are understandably down on Crabtree, but what gets me is why it's a given Maclin should be ranked so far ahead of those other guys. His straight line speed is impressive but he doesnt have much shake and bake to his game and has played mostly as a slot/reverse guy offensively.

Because his floor is Devin Hester and his ceiling is Steve Smith...

ChiefsCountry
02-20-2009, 08:00 PM
Rashaun Woods. LMAO

Anyone remember the absolute meltdown here when the Chiefs didn't draft him?

Raises hand. Count me in that group. I liked him alot.

keg in kc
02-20-2009, 08:08 PM
There's two big pieces of news in that report, the 6'1 1/4 thing, and the statement that he's not working out because he's rehabbing an ankle injury. I assumed it was an injury rather than the ever popular "dodging the combine because he's slow" line-of-thought, but that's the first time I've heard what it actually was. It'll be interesting to see what he does at his pro day, but losing two inches has to hurt.

ChiefsCountry
02-20-2009, 09:08 PM
I think the original poster was the one during the season who kept pimping some NAIA QB.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-20-2009, 11:41 PM
There's two big pieces of news in that report, the 6'1 1/4 thing, and the statement that he's not working out because he's rehabbing an ankle injury. I assumed it was an injury rather than the ever popular "dodging the combine because he's slow" line-of-thought, but that's the first time I've heard what it actually was. It'll be interesting to see what he does at his pro day, but losing two inches has to hurt.

I think the ankle injury is a convenient excuse. Hell there was footage of him sprinting at Michael Johnson's facility in Texas, yet he claims this injury is from the season.

It's a smokescreen.

When he runs a 4.58, the jig is up.

DeezNutz
02-20-2009, 11:48 PM
Crabtree in the 2nd.

ArrowheadMagic
02-20-2009, 11:55 PM
I think the ankle injury is a convenient excuse. Hell there was footage of him sprinting at Michael Johnson's facility in Texas, yet he claims this injury is from the season.

It's a smokescreen.

When he runs a 4.58, the jig is up.

And if he runs a 4.48, what then? His hands and how he makes his catches , i.e body position in traffic, is where his value is. There is a lot more involved in getting separation then speed. Or the NFL would be flooded with 4.2 guys. Since its hard to find targets in the NCAA, guarantee you ... until proven wrong .... that he caught an extremely high % of his targets.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2009, 12:10 AM
And if he runs a 4.48, what then? His hands and how he makes his catches , i.e body position in traffic, is where his value is. There is a lot more involved in getting separation then speed. Or the NFL would be flooded with 4.2 guys. Since its hard to find targets in the NCAA, guarantee you ... until proven wrong .... that he caught an extremely high % of his targets.

1. He's never had to run crisp routes, so assuming he can get separation through crisp route running is fallacious.
2. He rarely faced any kind of bracketed coverage because he had 3-4 other receivers spreading the field.
3. He cannot, and will not run a 4.48.
4. The NFL probably has less than 10 4.2 guys.

ArrowheadMagic
02-21-2009, 12:35 AM
So it takes more than speed to get separation. Most college WR's run poor routes. Leach runs a very unique offense, are we sure that Crabtree didnt run the routes he was supposed to? The fact he will do drills will probably answer that question. He does a great job of getting his body between the defender and the ball. He catches an extremely high amount of balls thrown at him. It wasnt like Harrell was going to throw 25 yd deep outs to him. I probably wouldnt take him the 3rd pick, but its not like the guy isnt a player. He's the guy when you have a 3rd and 8 and need a 1st down, he makes the play.


Dont know if he is a LF type receiver or not, but LF wasnt getting this kind of ball washing before the season started. Its a weak top end talent draft. The best WR will get over valued.

MIAdragon
02-21-2009, 09:48 AM
just reported from the combine "Crabtree out 10 weeks with a stress fracture in his foot."

philfree
02-21-2009, 09:51 AM
just reported from the combine "Crabtree out 10 weeks with a stress fracture in his foot."

Wonder how far he'll drop?



PhilFree:arrow:

MIAdragon
02-21-2009, 09:58 AM
NFL Network's Adam Schefter reports that Michael Crabtree will be sidelined for the next ten weeks following surgery for a stress fracture in his foot.

He'll have a pin inserted into the foot. Crabtree has nursed this injury since mid-October in 2008, so it's no surprise to find out that something's seriously wrong. He will not work out at all before the draft. Crabtree's put a lot on film in Mike Leach's spread offense, but he risks falling out of the top 5-7 picks. He measured far shorter than expected on Friday and won't be able to answer questions about his 40 time at Pro Day. Feb. 21 - 11:53 am et

philfree
02-21-2009, 10:01 AM
With the developments regarding Smith and Crabtree the top 10 is going to shuffle.


PhilFree:arrow:

warrior
02-21-2009, 10:05 AM
Ankle meet foot

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-21-2009, 10:24 AM
He'll drop down to where his physical talent indicated he should have gone anyway. If McGahee got drafted in the early 20s with a blown knee, there's no reason to think that he'd drop out of the first, but I wouldn't take him with a pick in the top 40.

AndChiefs
02-21-2009, 10:30 AM
So if Crabtree were to drop to us in the second round...a lot of you still think this would be too early?

Personally, I would take him no questions asked at that point and I'm a Pac-10 fan.

Hologide
02-21-2009, 10:31 AM
Good news on Crabtree's foot. Chiefs have no need to take a reciever in the first day, and I would have been agahst if they'd have taken Crabtree in the first considering the other holes that *have* to be filled if the Chiefs are to be competitive next season.