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Chiefnj2
02-27-2009, 08:43 AM
I think its updated (Sanchez falls out of the top 10, replaced by Orakpo?)

1. Stafford
2. Curry
3. Jason Smith
4. Crabtree
5. Monroe
6. Raji
7. Jenkins
8. Orakpo
9. Maclin
10. Wells
11. Oher
12. Sanchez
13. Pettigrew
14. A. Smith
15. Vontae Davis
16. Brown
17. Maualuga
18. Harvin
19. Jackson
20. Cushing
21. Heyword-Bey


I'm too lazy to type up the rest.

Mecca
02-27-2009, 08:45 AM
I'd like to know why Brandon Pettigrew is so damn high on everyones list...I'd rather have Jared Cook personally.

Chiefnj2
02-27-2009, 08:49 AM
Larry English is 27 on his list. I'm not thinking he falls to the 3rd or 4th round.

Mecca
02-27-2009, 08:52 AM
I also think he has Oher to high for what he's shown so far, maybe that's just me.

Brandon Pettigrew=Daniel Graham

I think Wells and Orakpo should be lower than that and unless Jenkins improves his time he should be too.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 08:54 AM
Is Orakpo being rated (somewhat consistently) above Brown simply because of combine numbers? When I watch them play there is no comparison, Orakpo doesn't know what he's doing with his hands and just kind of powers through weak blocks. I wonder if the NFL thinks they can take a kid with great measurables and teach him pass rush moves.

Mecca
02-27-2009, 08:55 AM
Is Orakpo being rated (somewhat consistently) above Brown simply because of combine numbers? When I watch them play there is no comparison, Orakpo doesn't know what he's doing with his hands and just kind of powers through weak blocks. I wonder if the NFL thinks they can take a kid with great measurables and teach him pass rush moves. Probably depends on the team?

Everette brown is "short" and he also isn't built like a bodybuilder.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 08:57 AM
Practically 6'2 and I thought height didn't matter nearly as much to olbs

Chiefnj2
02-27-2009, 08:58 AM
I'm surprised Barwin didn't make the top 32 and none of the centers are on the top 32.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 08:59 AM
Barwin has a ton of potential, possibly the most of any DL in the draft, but having played only one season of defense he is very raw and a gamble.

Mecca
02-27-2009, 09:01 AM
Practically 6'2 and I thought height didn't matter nearly as much to olbs

He's not prototypical size...so of course it hurts him even though he has much better pass rush moves.

BigCatDaddy
02-27-2009, 09:24 AM
I'd like to know why Brandon Pettigrew is so damn high on everyones list...I'd rather have Jared Cook personally.

Did you watch much OSU football this year?

BigCatDaddy
02-27-2009, 09:24 AM
I think its updated (Sanchez falls out of the top 10, replaced by Orakpo?)

1. Stafford
2. Curry
3. Jason Smith
4. Crabtree
5. Monroe
6. Raji
7. Jenkins
8. Orakpo
9. Maclin
10. Wells
11. Oher
12. Sanchez
13. Pettigrew
14. A. Smith
15. Vontae Davis
16. Brown
17. Maualuga
18. Harvin
19. Jackson
20. Cushing
21. Heyword-Bey


I'm too lazy to type up the rest.

Looks pretty good, although I'm surprised Jenkins is still top 10 after the 4.55 40.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 09:32 AM
He's not prototypical size...so of course it hurts him even though he has much better pass rush moves.

All I'm saying is 6'2 isn't 6', and the 6'4 or 6'5 recommended for 4-3 DE is not required to be a rush backer. Harrison is 6'0, Joey Porter 6'3 & same weight as Brown.

And those were the first 2 heights I checked, I'm not finding the shortest here.

mylittlepony
02-27-2009, 09:37 AM
I also think he has Oher to high for what he's shown so far, maybe that's just me.

Brandon Pettigrew=Daniel Graham

I think Wells and Orakpo should be lower than that and unless Jenkins improves his time he should be too.

Honest question. What games is it that Oher has shown his weaknesses? (Im not making a dig against you Im just curious because everyone has issues with him) I've seen 2 games this year and he looked pretty awesome in both.

Chiefnj2
02-27-2009, 09:41 AM
Honest question. What games is it that Oher has shown his weaknesses? (Im not making a dig against you Im just curious because everyone has issues with him) I've seen 2 games this year and he looked pretty awesome in both.

They say Oher has mental lapses. If you watched the drills at the combine you could see that he was one of the few OT's who ran the wrong way in one of the drills.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 09:41 AM
Honest question. What games is it that Oher has shown his weaknesses? (Im not making a dig against you Im just curious because everyone has issues with him) I've seen 2 games this year and he looked pretty awesome in both.

Noone questions his talent, except for consistency. Although I guess his run-blocking could improve. A lot of people question his drive and how important football is for him. Has he been just playing for a check?

and especially his work ethic. He wasn't even motivated enough to read the book that was written about him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-27-2009, 10:44 AM
I'm surprised Barwin didn't make the top 32 and none of the centers are on the top 32.

Barwin is listed as 64.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 10:55 AM
After watching Mack's highlight tape, I really like what a guy like that could do for our offense. I think he is a top 20 talent not accounting for positional value. I'd love to grab him with our 2.

Chiefnj2
02-27-2009, 10:59 AM
After watching Mack's highlight tape, I really like what a guy like that could do for our offense. I think he is a top 20 talent not accounting for positional value. I'd love to grab him with our 2.

I think KC's 2nd round pick will be one of the centers or a LB (provided KC doesn't take Curry at 3).

bdeg
02-27-2009, 11:02 AM
Mack or Barwin would be my top wants but its hard to say without seeing who else is available. Could be a good WR

'Hamas' Jenkins
02-27-2009, 11:26 AM
I just don't know if Barwin or Mack is worth 34.

Barwin has out of this world potential, but he is a huge Boom-Bust project. If we were picking around 55, I could see the risk more, but we basically have another first rounder with how high our second pick is. Someone really good is going to slip, and we'll have a hell of a player just sitting in our laps.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 11:59 AM
Ya that's exactly what I said. However when you look at how much Barwin improved in just one season I think his intelligence and drive are obvious.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 12:03 PM
And without question the only center worth the 34 is Mack. Otherwise hope Wood falls to the 3rd.

I say this based on what I've heard, regarding Wood, but can anyone find a highlight film or anything of him? I can't.

Mecca
02-27-2009, 06:21 PM
Did you watch much OSU football this year?

Yea...I value a TE with receiving ability to stretch the seem over one who's best attribute is blocking with slow foot speed.

Chiefnj2
02-27-2009, 09:28 PM
Yea...I value a TE with receiving ability to stretch the seem over one who's best attribute is blocking with slow foot speed.

Mecca,

If Sanchez continues to slip in Wright's ratings do you think he constitutes a "reach" at the 3rd pick? For purposes of this question assume that by draft day Wright and Gosselin have Sanchez ranked as the #15 player.

ArrowheadMagic
02-27-2009, 09:41 PM
because of positional value, if a QB is a top 15 talent, its not a reach regardless where you pick him, unless you pick him over a guy rated higher in the same position. A lot depends on the draft class also, these listings wont take into account where he should be picked. This soon after the combine, people over react to their performance.... mid to late March the ratings will be more in line to where they should be rated as a prospect. IMO

bdeg
02-27-2009, 10:03 PM
Positional value is different for every team.

And I wouldn't label anyone a reach based off of Wright's rankings. Not that he's not respectable, just not as qualified as Pioli & co.

ArrowheadMagic
02-27-2009, 10:11 PM
Positional value is different for every team.

And I wouldn't label anyone a reach based off of Wright's rankings. Not that he's not respectable, just not as qualified as Pioli & co.

True to a point, teams like NE that have an early 1st rd pick because of a trade, can forgo positional value and fill needs with BPA at that position of need. All teams will agree at which positions deserve to be paid the highest. Its why those same positions will be the ones that are picked over and over in the top 5.

bdeg
02-27-2009, 10:49 PM
yep

veist
02-28-2009, 12:54 AM
I'd like to know why Brandon Pettigrew is so damn high on everyones list...I'd rather have Jared Cook personally.

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