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Pestilence
03-04-2009, 12:48 PM
I wish I was in FL around college girls. I'm in California this week working the night shift. :grr:

What the hell are you doing out here?

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2009, 12:58 PM
What the hell are you doing out here?

You're on the clock yo.

Pestilence
03-04-2009, 01:02 PM
You're on the clock yo.

I was just about to post yo.

Pestilence
03-04-2009, 01:07 PM
The Eagles got McNabb one offensive weapon earlier in Knowshown Moreno and they'll give him another one with their next pick. With the 27th pick in the 1st round the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

The Eagles still need another offensive lineman but I didn't think that there was good value here. I also wanted to grab Sean Smith here to be Brian Dawkins replacement but I don't see them taking a CB/S tweener in the 1st round. Pettigrew will fill in nicely and add another target for McNabb as well as be nice blocker for Moreno and Westbrook. The LJ Smith era is over.....thank God.

DaKCMan AP
03-04-2009, 01:12 PM
What the hell are you doing out here?

We rent one of the labs at Berkeley for testing. It's a 24hr facility and this trip I'm stuck on nights. :cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts
03-04-2009, 01:12 PM
I was just about to post yo.

Word life yo.

BigChiefFan
03-04-2009, 01:52 PM
The Eagles got McNabb one offensive weapon earlier in Knowshown Moreno and they'll give him another one with their next pick. With the 27th pick in the 1st round the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

The Eagles still need another offensive lineman but I didn't think that there was good value here. I also wanted to grab Sean Smith here to be Brian Dawkins replacement but I don't see them taking a CB/S tweener in the 1st round. Pettigrew will fill in nicely and add another target for McNabb as well as be nice blocker for Moreno and Westbrook. The LJ Smith era is over.....thank God.

Great value. Nice pick.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 01:54 PM
The Eagles got McNabb one offensive weapon earlier in Knowshown Moreno and they'll give him another one with their next pick. With the 27th pick in the 1st round the Philadelphia Eagles select:

Brandon Pettigrew, TE, Oklahoma State

The Eagles still need another offensive lineman but I didn't think that there was good value here. I also wanted to grab Sean Smith here to be Brian Dawkins replacement but I don't see them taking a CB/S tweener in the 1st round. Pettigrew will fill in nicely and add another target for McNabb as well as be nice blocker for Moreno and Westbrook. The LJ Smith era is over.....thank God.

You should have just traded that 1st to the Chiefs for Tony G.

We'd have given him to you.

Pestilence
03-04-2009, 02:02 PM
You should have just traded that 1st to the Chiefs for Tony G.

We'd have given him to you.

Throw in Brian Waters and LJ and we have a deal!

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 03:55 PM
Throw in Brian Waters and LJ and we have a deal!

I think I'd pull the trigger on Tony G, LJ, and Waters for a 1st and a 5th.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 03:55 PM
To me this is a perfect fit pick so I'm glad to see him last till here, with the release of Harrison the Colts replace him with another outside playmaker..

With the 28th pick the Indianapolis Colts select Percy Harvin, WR, Florida

OnTheWarpath58
03-04-2009, 03:57 PM
To me this is a perfect fit pick so I'm glad to see him last till here, with the release of Harrison the Colts replace him with another outside playmaker..

With the 28th pick the Indianapolis Colts select Percy Harvin, WR, Florida

Saw that coming...

Good pick.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 04:11 PM
I elect to trade the New York Giants' 1st round pick to the Patriots for all three of their second round picks.

OTW, you're on the clock.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 04:16 PM
You know the Patriots would never do that right?

OnTheWarpath58
03-04-2009, 04:20 PM
I elect to trade the New York Giants' 1st round pick to the Patriots for all three of their second round picks.

OTW, you're on the clock.

ROFL

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 04:24 PM
Well... the Giants are up, and I'm none too pleased.

It's cliche to say this, but Harvin was my pick until Mecca showed me up. The Giants were waiting for the invention of sweatpants with a built-in gun holster, but apparently the economy has caused a depression in imagination, too, so I see no need to have Burress around. Harvin would have been a fantastic replacement.

The other remaining WRs make me nervous, too. Britt and Nicks? Too risky for a first round investment; I've got loads of picks I can gamble with later.

So I look to the defense. Sean Smith intrigues me, but spending 1sts on safeties two years in a row slows down any ambition I may have on taking a shot with him.

Linebacker is a position of need in this Draft for me, but nothing here thrills me. So I'm going another route.

The Giants are in an enviable position; they are just about 100% built on both lines. But why settle for great when you can be SUPER FANTASTIC.

The Giants are pretty much going to have to gamble on whoever it is they pick here, so why not go with the player with the highest ceiling?

With that in mind, they pick a player who will need a hell of a lot of coaching, who really couldn't land in a better situation than this franchise.

With the 29th pick in the NFL Draft, the New York Giants pick QB Chase Daniel, from the University of ....

Oh wait.

DE Michael Johnson, Georgia Tech.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 04:26 PM
Even after they just signed Canty?

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 04:29 PM
Even after they just signed Canty?

Canty and Johnson are apples and oranges. Hell Canty can play inside.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 04:30 PM
Still they have 3 other ends even if you don't count Canty.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 04:31 PM
They're not taking any chances on random season-ending injuries this year.

Zouk
03-04-2009, 04:50 PM
I was going to pick Johnson for the Titans - I'm shocked he was picked. He's the guy that the pre-draft conventional wisdom police have ganged up on this year, but I was impressed when I saw him play on TV and I think he's going to blow up in the NFL.

I'm not sure how he gets on the field with Omenyiora, Tuck, Kiwanuka, and Canty all ahead of him on the depth chart but that's not our problem.

With Johnson and Harvin off the board, the Titans fall back to taking a hometown prospect for their position of greatest need:

DJ Moore, CB, Vanderbilt

He'll compete with 35 year old Nick Harper at CB, return kicks, and maybe play some offense too.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 04:54 PM
The Titans shouldn't you be taking whoever the best WR is?

Zouk
03-04-2009, 05:04 PM
The Titans shouldn't you be taking whoever the best WR is?

No.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 05:04 PM
No.

Well building a football team with no threats outside is always a good plan.

Zouk
03-04-2009, 05:09 PM
Well building a football team with no threats outside is always a good plan.

Since Jeff Fisher became coach in 1994 they have taken 1 WR in the 1st round (Kevin Dyson, 1998) and 1 WR in the 2nd round (Tyrone Calico, 2003).

Everyone cried for them to take a WR last year too. They then went 13-3 and got beat in the playoffs mostly because Chris Johnson got hurt.

They just signed Nate Washington to start opposite Justin Gage, and Lavelle Hawkins is a promising slot man - that's enough for a run-based team that likes to feature the tight end in the passing game. They might sign or draft 1 more but it's not nearly their biggest need.

Their biggest need by far is CB - where Harper will be 35 next September, and last year's #3 and #4 corners left in free agency, and then it's DE - where Vanden Bosch and Kearse are both on the wrong side of 30 and in the last year of their contract.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 05:14 PM
Nate Washington a starter...The Titans are like the Chiefs use to be how depressing.

eazyb81
03-04-2009, 05:17 PM
Arizona is in a nice position this year in that while they are not loaded at every position, they also don't have any glaring weaknesses. Resigning Warner today is a great move, and along with franchising Dansby, signals that the front office feels this team is capable of putting together another playoff run.

Arizona lost JJ Arrington early in free agency and Edgerrin James continues to demand an outright release because of his diminished role. Without those two we would basically place the season's hopes on Tim Hightower, a decent 5th round pick from last year. If it came to it, I am confident we could make James happy by making him the starter, but frankly I think it's clear he's lost a step.

So after analyzing our current roster and comparing that to how the draft is unfolding, I feel now is the time to make a move to solidify the RB position.

For the 31st pick of the draft, the NFC CHAMPION ("whoooooo" clap clap clap) Arizona Cardinals select.......LeSean "Shady" McCoy, RB, Pitt

I gave consideration to waiting until later to take someone like Shonn Green or Arian Foster, but having the chance to take a premium RB talent like McCoy with the 31st pick was too difficult to pass up.

McCoy is a versatile talent that be used in almost any set and his ability to catch the ball out of the backfield is what we feel separates him from the other top backs in this draft class.

Don't let the door hit you on the way out Edge.

Mecca
03-04-2009, 05:21 PM
Speaking of RB's...I bet CJ Spiller is kicking himself in the ass for not coming out after all those shitty 40 times.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 05:42 PM
Is it time for Duke?

Pestilence
03-04-2009, 05:51 PM
I predict Unger.

TWO CENTERS IN THE FIRST ROUND!!! !1!!!!!!! OH NOEZ!!1!1!1!!!

Sfeihc
03-04-2009, 06:02 PM
I predict Unger.

TWO CENTERS IN THE FIRST ROUND!!! !1!!!!!!! OH NOEZ!!1!1!1!!!

I know I broke one of the cardinal rules. I also knew that 3 of the next 10 teams may take Mack meaning I'd have to settle on Wood or Cadwell later in the draft. Harvin to me wasn't worth it, I'm glad OTW took away the V. Davis decision for me. So for the Vikes it came down to filling their hole at C or taking DJ Moore.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 06:07 PM
Hey P23...

You've got holes at power RB, TE, and LG.

Had that first pick never happened, would you have been open to what we "joked" about earlier?

LJ, Waters, Tony G, for your 1st and 5th.

milkman
03-04-2009, 06:09 PM
I like that Shady draft move by the Cards.

Strengthens a weakness in their offense.

Michael Johnsont to the Giants is pretty questionable.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 06:10 PM
Michael Johnsont to the Giants is pretty questionable.

I win the draft?

milkman
03-04-2009, 06:12 PM
I win the draft?

As long as your drafting against Matt Millen.

Direckshun
03-04-2009, 06:24 PM
As long as your drafting against Matt Millen.
Or against milkman circa 2008.

milkman
03-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Or against milkman circa 2008.

I picked Albert to play tackle.

Your refusal to acknowledge both that, and the fact that he played exceptionally well at LT for a kid that had hardly any time to learn the position before being put in the fire, so to speak, is pretty petty.

Pestilence
03-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Hey P23...

You've got holes at power RB, TE, and LG.

Had that first pick never happened, would you have been open to what we "joked" about earlier?

LJ, Waters, Tony G, for your 1st and 5th.

No.

Sfeihc
03-04-2009, 07:20 PM
Okay everybody in the pool! MARCO!

Short Leash Hootie
03-04-2009, 07:21 PM
Saw that coming...

Good pick.
Of course you did.

OnTheWarpath58
03-04-2009, 08:43 PM
Of course you did.

Please, great master of the Ritalin, tell us what YOU would have done.

Harvin to the Colts in that spot is about as easy a pick as will be made in this entire draft.

Short Leash Hootie
03-04-2009, 08:52 PM
Please, great master of the Ritalin, tell us what YOU would have done.

Harvin to the Colts in that spot is about as easy a pick as will be made in this entire draft.

I was just shocked you and Mecca agreed on something...that's all.

OnTheWarpath58
03-04-2009, 08:55 PM
I was just shocked you and Mecca agreed on something...that's all.

So, you can't come up with a better pick?

I'm shocked that you once again show your ass in this thread.

Short Leash Hootie
03-04-2009, 08:57 PM
I thought it was an excellent pick. I was just surprised to see you two agree, that's all.

Sam Hall
03-04-2009, 11:30 PM
Surprised to see Clint Sintim and Josh Freeman still on the board.

Direckshun
03-05-2009, 12:22 AM
I think this Draft's selection of players is pretty true to life, except that I suspect someone will have pulled the trigger on Freeman by now, and I'm willing to bet Duke Robinson goes way before Alex Mack.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 06:07 AM
Of course you did.

http://i248.photobucket.com/albums/gg171/AK330xi/arigtfo.gif

Marco Polo
03-05-2009, 07:33 AM
The Super Bowl Champion Pittsburgh Steelers are on the clock. They are needing to upgrade their offensive line and there are several options they could go.

That being said, the Pittsburgh Steelers select Eben Britton, T, Arizona.

The Detroit Lions are on the clock.<!-- / message --><!-- / Jeff Removed Sig -->

Sfeihc
03-05-2009, 08:54 AM
I think this Draft's selection of players is pretty true to life, except that I suspect someone will have pulled the trigger on Freeman by now, and I'm willing to bet Duke Robinson goes way before Alex Mack.

I'll take that action.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 11:31 AM
Duke Robinson most likely isn't even the #1 guard on a lot of team's boards, especially w/ Unger's versatility.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 11:34 AM
Round 1 completed in 3 days.

I'll be posting this afternoon for the Lions and Pats. I have some business I need to attend to first.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 11:42 AM
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 11:47 AM
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

STFU

Great Expectations
03-05-2009, 12:03 PM
Is Hamas a NooB or does he just have no clue on the Draft?

Beenie Wells will not be the 1st RB off the board, Sanchez to the Cheifs?

kc rush
03-05-2009, 12:09 PM
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.

Can someone add "For Entertainment Purposes Only" to the header or something so we can stop with the bellyaching. :rolleyes:

Whether you like the pick or not, Hamas had a reason for his choice, one which other posters have backed up and understood (even if it isn't what they would have done in this situation). If you are this upset over things, maybe you and Hootie should create your own mocks.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 12:12 PM
Can someone add "For Entertainment Purposes Only" to the header or something so we can stop with the bellyaching. :rolleyes:

Whether you like the pick or not, Hamas had a reason for his choice, one which other posters have backed up and understood (even if it isn't what they would have done in this situation). If you are this upset over things, maybe you and Hootie should create your own mocks.

This.

It's a fucking mock draft.....get over it.

Short Leash Hootie
03-05-2009, 12:40 PM
No offense otw

But you decided on only these gms in the mock this year and Hamas is making a mockery of this. At least I wouldhave taken it serrious oh well you made your choice. I can't wait to see what incredibly bad pick Hamas makes next.
4-3 defensive personnel

Short Leash Hootie
03-05-2009, 12:40 PM
This.

It's a ****ing mock draft.....get over it.

It would be nice if it was realistic.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 12:55 PM
4-3 defensive personnel

I'll ask again, since you and others have dodged it every time I've asked:

Has anyone from the CHIEFS organization confirmed that we're going to a 3-4 defense?

So far, I've seen nothing but media speculation.

Ironically, that gives you a wide open door to bash the pick no matter who it is.

Convenient for you...

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 12:56 PM
It would be nice if it was realistic.

Go do your own then, attention whore.

Otherwise, fuck off.

Amazing how the people that aren't involved have a bigger issue with it that the people that are.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 12:59 PM
Beenie Wells will not be the 1st RB off the board

ok.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 12:59 PM
Its not out of the question to see Sanchez taken at #3 if the Chiefs trade to say #10 the draft doesnt change.
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Short Leash Hootie
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
Its not out of the question to see Sanchez taken at #3 if the Chiefs trade to say #10 the draft doesnt change.
Posted via Mobile Device

Drafturbators claim trading down is impossible.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 01:08 PM
The Lions were contemplating taking Britton with this pick, but they're not entirely sure that he's capable of becoming a franchise LT.

However, they are confident that the player they are about to take can, and will be. Some will see this as a bit of a reach, but they've had this player targeted for this slot, he's there, and he wouldn't be the next time they were on the clock.

The Detroit Lions select:

William Beatty, OT, Connecticut

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 01:12 PM
The Patriots are going to be abused here by some by going back-to-back LB's, especially after taking Mayo last year, but there's too much value in this pick to pass.

His versatility allows the Pats to move both he and Adalius Thomas around, as both are strong against the run and pass, and can both rush/blitz very effectively.

The New England Patriots select:

Clint Sintim, OLB, Virginia

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 01:19 PM
Fucking Chiefs. I'm hoping that we can somehow get a 2nd round pick so that we can grab Sintim in the 2nd.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 01:22 PM
This may be a bit of a reach, but the Rams feel this is an impact, franchise CB and he won't be around come round 3. Tye Hill and crew just haven't shown the ability to fill this role effectively.

The Rams select Darius Butler, CB, UConn

kstater
03-05-2009, 01:24 PM
If Freeman drops to the Patriots at 34, I wouldn't be stunned to see NE take him.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 01:29 PM
If Freeman drops to the Patriots at 34, I wouldn't be stunned to see NE take him.

I almost flipped a fucking coin between Butler and Freeman. St. Louis would actually be a pretty good destination for Josh IMO.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 01:30 PM
If Freeman drops to the Patriots at 34, I wouldn't be stunned to see NE take him.

I'd be absolutely stunned.

They are pretty damn happy with O'Connell from everything I've read, and are looking to add a veteran for the #3 spot.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 01:53 PM
If the Seahawks don't take Freeman then I don't see him falling past the Jags. Garrard is over 30 and Freeman could sit behind him for 2 years and take everything in.

Great Expectations
03-05-2009, 02:43 PM
Its not out of the question to see Sanchez taken at #3 if the Chiefs trade to say #10 the draft doesnt change.
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Then trade down, don't pick him there if you don't. (I know you didn't make the selection)

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 02:51 PM
Then trade down, don't pick him there if you don't. (I know you didn't make the selection)

We can't trade down in this mock. It got voted down.

milkman
03-05-2009, 02:53 PM
I'd be absolutely stunned.

They are pretty damn happy with O'Connell from everything I've read, and are looking to add a veteran for the #3 spot.

Everything I've read seems to indicate they like O'Donnell also.

Direcshun and I got into a debate on the merits of O'Connell vs. the Johnson kid out of USD last year.

I really liked O'Connell, and I said earlier in this offfseason, if we were trading for A QB from New England, I'd rather have taken a later round flyer on O'Donnell than trade for Cassel.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 03:06 PM
Then trade down, don't pick him there if you don't. (I know you didn't make the selection)

Give us some insight into your plans Scott and we may act accordingly.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 03:10 PM
I'm not sure how we're handling trades after the draft is started but here you go.

www.rotoworld.com

Patriots acquired WR Greg Lewis from the Eagles and an undisclosed 2010 draft pick in exchange for a fifth-round pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.

Lewis, 29, only has 56 catches over the last three years, but has always been a Patriot killer and carries a cheap contract through 2011. Mostly a special teamer in Philly, he'll be a candidate for a bigger role now. He could replace Jabar Gaffney as a third receiver behind Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Lewis' kickoff coverage value probably assures him of a roster spot.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 03:41 PM
I'm not sure how we're handling trades after the draft is started but here you go.

www.rotoworld.com

Patriots acquired WR Greg Lewis from the Eagles and an undisclosed 2010 draft pick in exchange for a fifth-round pick in the 2009 NFL Draft.

Lewis, 29, only has 56 catches over the last three years, but has always been a Patriot killer and carries a cheap contract through 2011. Mostly a special teamer in Philly, he'll be a candidate for a bigger role now. He could replace Jabar Gaffney as a third receiver behind Randy Moss and Wes Welker. Lewis' kickoff coverage value probably assures him of a roster spot.

Once we start, it's locked down, with the exception of compensatory picks.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 03:52 PM
That's what I thought. I just wanted to make sure.....and also try and steal one of your picks away. LMAO

Great Expectations
03-05-2009, 03:54 PM
Give us some insight into your plans Scott and we may act accordingly.

I thought you'd never ask. Right now we would like to trade down to as far as the 11 slot. The difficulty here being that we don't see many teams offering book value for our pick. The flip side of that is that we don't see a significant drop in potential player productivity between the players available at the 3rd pick than we do with the ones available at 11. Because of that we are willing to make the trade for something slightly less than book value. We feel like this team has so many needs (NT, OLB, DE, RT, C, WR) that we can get a great player in picks 4-11 just as we can at 3. Also the difference in salary that pick 11 will command vs. pick 3 will also be a determining factor in our ability to take slightly less than book value for the pick.

In summation we would be happ with a number of players, for instance if we trade with the Jags we could go WR, DE, NT, OLine and get a great player, potentially even the one we really want at the 3rd spot.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:04 PM
I thought you'd never ask. Right now we would like to trade down to as far as the 11 slot. The difficulty here being that we don't see many teams offering book value for our pick. The flip side of that is that we don't see a significant drop in potential player productivity between the players available at the 3rd pick than we do with the ones available at 11. Because of that we are willing to make the trade for something slightly less than book value. We feel like this team has so many needs (NT, OLB, DE, RT, C, WR) that we can get a great player in picks 4-11 just as we can at 3. Also the difference in salary that pick 11 will command vs. pick 3 will also be a determining factor in our ability to take slightly less than book value for the pick.

In summation we would be happ with a number of players, for instance if we trade with the Jags we could go WR, DE, NT, OLine and get a great player, potentially even the one we really want at the 3rd spot.

Then explain to me why anyone would want to trade up with us. Why trade up if the contract is going to be huge and you can stay put and get the same quality of player?

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:08 PM
OTW hate to tell you but this is a free country and I can comment if I want to .



So far Hamas doesn't know what he is doing


why would the chiefs select sanchez when there are so many holes on this team especially when we just traded for Cassel. It's his arrogant statement about the pick shows how ignorant he is with what is going on this mock draft.


then for tampa bay wells is he not paying attention that they just signed ward to be the feature back. That is where I disagree.

He is making this mock laughable and OTW I'm entitled to my own opinion.

Sfeihc
03-05-2009, 04:10 PM
With two picks in the second round it gives the Browns a certain amount of flexibility. This guy can do it all including sell popcorn. With the 36th pick overall the Cleveland Browns select Connor Barwin, DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati

I'm beginning to see a disturbing trend developing that drafting right behind OTW is NOT going to be beneficial to my draft board.:doh!:

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:11 PM
OTW hate to tell you but this is a free country and I can comment if I want to .



So far Hamas doesn't know what he is doing


why would the chiefs select sanchez when there are so many holes on this team especially when we just traded for Cassel. It's his arrogant statement about the pick shows how ignorant he is with what is going on this mock draft.


then for tampa bay wells is he not paying attention that they just signed ward to be the feature back. That is where I disagree.

He is making this mock laughable and OTW I'm entitled to my own opinion.

Where did he say anything to you about not being able to comment in this mock?

And since we're on the subject of being entitled to our own opinions....I can say one thing.

At least with you not in it......I don't have to hear that every player is a "steal".

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:14 PM
guess we are a little jellous about last year and my picks it's cool bring the hatred without me and limiting it to the chosen 16 you aren't getting a real mock draft and you get someone really uninformed making picks (Hamas)


but what do I know I must not be knowledgeable enough to be in this mock

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:19 PM
OTW hate to tell you but this is a free country and I can comment if I want to .



So far Hamas doesn't know what he is doing


why would the chiefs select sanchez when there are so many holes on this team especially when we just traded for Cassel. It's his arrogant statement about the pick shows how ignorant he is with what is going on this mock draft.


then for tampa bay wells is he not paying attention that they just signed ward to be the feature back. That is where I disagree.

He is making this mock laughable and OTW I'm entitled to my own opinion.



What the fuck?

Where have I said a goddamn word to you in this thread?

I've been nothing but respectful to you, gave you an explanation you didn't deserve about not being included, and you're on MY ass?

You're entitled to your opinion, but leave me the fuck out of it, unless I actually respond to you.

The guys that are involved in this mock have the right to their opinions as well. This isn't a one-way street.

And FWIW, if you'd fucking pay attention, you'd see that Hamas picked Wells a FULL DAY before Ward was signed in Tampa. You expect him to be fucking psychic? You have a lot of balls calling people out when you picked Brian fucking Brohm at 15 last year.

Personally, I'm sick of your whining, and I've been nice long enough.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:21 PM
guess we are a little jellous about last year and my picks it's cool bring the hatred without me and limiting it to the chosen 16 you aren't getting a real mock draft and you get someone really uninformed making picks (Hamas)


but what do I know I must not be knowledgeable enough to be in this mock

I'm jealous? You're the ONLY person that got left out....who made a big deal about not being in it. Then you proceeded to shit on OTW58 for leaving people out. Would I have drafted different than Hamas if I was drafting for the Chiefs? Yes. Am I going to constantly bring it up everytime he drafts? No. Why? Because he's the GM at this point in time and he can draft whomever he feels like. Coming in here and bitching about it like a 6 year old is stupid. If you don't like how he's drafting.....fine....but get over it and move on.

Yep....Brian Brohm in the 1st round was such a great pick. Chris Johnson was a good pick....it's just too bad that you drafted him to return kicks and punts.....

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:23 PM
What the fuck?

Where have I said a goddamn word to you in this thread?

I've been nothing but respectful to you, gave you an explanation you didn't deserve about not being included, and you're on MY ass?

You're entitled to your opinion, but leave me the fuck out of it, unless I actually respond to you.

The guys that are involved in this mock have the right to their opinions as well. This isn't a one-way street.

And FWIW, if you'd fucking pay attention, you'd see that Hamas picked Wells a FULL DAY before Ward was signed in Tampa. You expect him to be fucking psychic? You have a lot of balls calling people out when you picked Brian fucking Brohm at 15 last year.

Personally, I'm sick of your whining, and I've been nice long enough.

Not to call you out or anything......but he drafted him after Ward was signed. LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:26 PM
Not to call you out or anything......but he drafted him after Ward was signed. LMAO

FWIW, my reasoning behind the Wells selection:

Rock and a hard place. I'm not a big fan of taking running backs with really high selections. The Bucs just signed Derrick Ward, so they don't have a gaping hole at running back any more. A tandem of Ward and Graham could be serviceable, as you can't count on a broken down Cadillac for anything.

The Bucs have glaring needs at QB, DT, OLB, and WR

Obviously Tampa needs a quarterback. They tried to make a deal for Cutler, but that fell through. Josh Freeman is a great specimen in shorts and a T-shirt, but I've seen him play in the Big XII, and I'm not exactly thrilled.

Larry English is a possibility at end, but he reminds me too much of Tamba Hali.

Percy Harvin would be a good compliment to Antonio Bryant, but he comes from a spread offense, is on the small side, and has durability concerns.

Louis Delmas doesn't really fit the mold of a Cover 2 safety.

Peria Jerry is going to be a 25 year old rookie, he has major injury and intelligence issues, and he has the Sims/Peppers question given the presence of Greg Hardy on his college line.

Vontae Davis is another intriguing possibility, but he was less than impressive at the Combine, which is shocking given that was supposed to be the area where he would excel, given his lack of solid intangibles. There are a lot of Cover 2 corners that could be had later in the draft

In the end, I'm going to take the guy who I think is Larry Johnson without character problems.

The Tampa Bay Buccaneers select Chris "Beanie" Wells, RB, The Ohio State University

Sfeihc
03-05-2009, 04:27 PM
The whole tenor of this mock is being diminished by the constant douchbaggery.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:28 PM
You can draft whomever you want man......I'm not giving you shit.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:29 PM
Not to call you out or anything......but he drafted him after Ward was signed. LMAO

I looked at the article date, not the actual signing date. Whoops.

He actually signed Monday night, and Hamas made his pick on Tuesday morning.

Hell, I missed it, I could easily see where someone would miss that. I know I'm not scouring the FA market before I make a pick.

EDIT: And in looking at Hamas' post, he didn't miss it.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:31 PM
brian brohm for one hasn't played yet so how do you know he's not good enough.


you are also forgetting I drafted jerod Mayo as well. When I picked both you guys on here said they were bad picks. but I don't know as much as all of you that's fair.


OTW you said that the people that aren't on this mock are belly aching blah blah. which I took to mean we can't have an opinion. If that's not what you said I'm sorry. I told you last year you did an awesome job setting this up. I don't understand why after almost 5 yrs doing this I'm excluded and kept being told to reference post 82 . Sorry but that was a little disrespectful. I will comment on the picks if I don't agree the mad love on this board for sanchez I feel is unjustified. Mecca of all people should realize this but for some reason he isn't cluing into these facts.


If sanchez is so great why couldn't he beat out john david booty?

Why was he inconsistent ?

Why do all of you think he's ready for the NFL?

Cassel is better guys you will see.

OTW i"M SORRY if I offended you I didn't mean to. So far Hamas explanation I"m in control so I shot previous brass in head and picked who I wanted to is a bad one. It would have been cool to see how far he slipped or if someone would take a chance on him early . Unfortunately we won't know.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:32 PM
You can draft whomever you want man......I'm not giving you shit.

It wasn't directed to you. I personally think that there was a pretty good reason for the Beanie pick. To me, he's the #1 pick in the draft, Tampa has assloads of cap space, and they are only paying Ward 4 million/year.

There was no value at tackle, end, or interior line there, and I'm not taking a CB in the first round when they are a Tampa 2 team through and through.

Again, if someone took me to 2003 and said "would you take Larry Johnson at #19 knowing the production he's had and removing the domestic problems?" I'd say hell yes.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:33 PM
It would have been cool to see how far he slipped or if someone would take a chance on him early . Unfortunately we won't know.

If had read the thread, you'd know the answer to this question.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:33 PM
Ok hamas I agree with wells then if you want an alla earth wind and fire like giants.


but sanchez for the chiefs pick? Draft who you want to that's your right but you now have 3 cappable qbs and same old d why?

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:34 PM
The whole tenor of this mock is being diminished by the constant douchbaggery.

Yep.

I've told the Coalition of the Butthurt that they were more than welcome to use all the information I spent my time getting to make their own mocks, but no one seems to be up to the challenge - they'd rather take their potshots here.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:34 PM
I looked at the article date, not the actual signing date. Whoops.

He actually signed Monday night, and Hamas made his pick on Tuesday morning.

Hell, I missed it, I could easily see where someone would miss that. I know I'm not scouring the FA market before I make a pick.

It's cool man. I only pay attention to the major signings when I'm drafting for my team (fucking Broncos).

I'm not going to give you shit because this is a lot of work and I'm not willing to put in the time or the effort.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:36 PM
Ok hamas I agree with wells then if you want an alla earth wind and fire like giants.


but sanchez for the chiefs pick who you want to that's your right but you now have 3 cappable qbs and same old d why?

3 capable QBs? So far I see Cassell and Sanchez. That's two. I hope you don't mean Thigpen.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:37 PM
Ok hamas I agree with wells then if you want an alla earth wind and fire like giants.


but sanchez for the chiefs pick who you want to that's your right but you now have 3 cappable qbs and same old d why?

Because BJ Raji is a scary ass proposition at 3, and if you read my explanation, you'd see that I'm not sold on Matt Cassel. I'm not betting the future of the Chiefs on Cassel if I'm in charge, sorry.

If you don't have a franchise QB, you take one. I don't see Cassel as a franchise QB, so I'm taking Sanchez because he is one. If Cassel flops, we're a hell of a lot more fucked for the future than people realize, because next year's QB class is flat awful.

I'm sorry if forward thinking is offensive to people in the mock, but I realize that this Chiefs team isn't going anywhere next year, and if you want to get a franchise QB, now is the time. We can build our D with high picks next year when there is phenomenal talent at the top.

I didn't make the pick to win a popularity contest. If I did, I would have taken Curry.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:39 PM
you are also forgetting I drafted jerod Mayo as well. When I picked both you guys on here said they were bad picks. but I don't know as much as all of you that's fair.

Really?

Here's the thread. You picked Mayo in Post #376.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=181084&highlight=2007+mock&page=3

The ONLY person that commented on the pick was Direckshun, and he said it was a good pick.

If you really want to piss me off, keep claiming that I said things I didn't actually say.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:41 PM
It's cool man. I only pay attention to the major signings when I'm drafting for my team (fucking Broncos).

I'm not going to give you shit because this is a lot of work and I'm not willing to put in the time or the effort.

Actually, I'd prefer you call me out when I fuck up. I don't want, nor expect any special treatment just because I set up and run this thing.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:42 PM
but hamas not to be a jerk but how do you know cassel isn't and sanchez is a franchise qb? alot of people thought Leaf was a franchise qb too. I see major limitations to his game I think he's gonna have problems adjusting to the speed of the nfl. Cassel has done it plus the guy in charge drafted him and watched him develop you have to trust in pioli at this time.

I just don't agree with the majority on here that Sanchez is a franchise qb

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:43 PM
Really?

Here's the thread. You picked Mayo in Post #376.

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=181084&highlight=2007+mock&page=3

The ONLY person that commented on the pick was Direckshun, and he said it was a good pick.

If you really want to piss me off, keep claiming that I said things I didn't actually say.

Damnt....I was just about to post this. LMAO

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:45 PM
Because BJ Raji is a scary ass proposition at 3, and if you read my explanation, you'd see that I'm not sold on Matt Cassel. I'm not betting the future of the Chiefs on Cassel if I'm in charge, sorry.

If you don't have a franchise QB, you take one. I don't see Cassel as a franchise QB, so I'm taking Sanchez because he is one. If Cassel flops, we're a hell of a lot more fucked for the future than people realize, because next year's QB class is flat awful.

I'm sorry if forward thinking is offensive to people in the mock, but I realize that this Chiefs team isn't going anywhere next year, and if you want to get a franchise QB, now is the time. We can build our D with high picks next year when there is phenomenal talent at the top.

I didn't make the pick to win a popularity contest. If I did, I would have taken Curry.

Plus....as you've mentioned. Cassell still hasn't inked a long term contract as of yet. So without Sanchez in the mix.....we're going into next year with a QB on a one year $14 million dollar deal. Drafting Sanchez allows us to do a number of things with Cassell.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:45 PM
ok OTW I just remember people laughing about the chris JOhnson pick I do my homework guys I know alot about guys in the draft every year.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:46 PM
but hamas not to be a jerk but how do you know cassel isn't and sanchez is a franchise qb? alot of people thought Leaf was a franchise qb too. I see major limitations to his game I think he's gonna have problems adjusting to the speed of the nfl. Cassel has done it plus the guy in charge drafted him and watched him develop you have to trust in pioli at this time.

I just don't agree with the majority on here that Sanchez is a franchise qb

That's your opinion.

I'm also entitled to have one.

I'm also not required to put blind faith in Pioli when, quite frankly, his draft record sucks over the last 4 years, and their FA signings lately have been mighty underwhelming.

They hit on Moss and Welker. Yay.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:46 PM
pestillencia


by the way for a history lesson I drafted chris Johnson for kr pr and hopefully to challenge as a running back to dangelo williams.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:48 PM
Plus....as you've mentioned. Cassell still hasn't inked a long term contract as of yet. So without Sanchez in the mix.....we're going into next year with a QB on a one year $14 million dollar deal. Drafting Sanchez allows us to do a number of things with Cassell.

Well, not only that, but we own Cassel's rights for two years due to the expiration of the CBA. Therefore, we can put a 1st round tender on him, and if anyone signs him and we elect not to match, we get higher compensation than what we paid for him.

Plus, we gave Sanchez a year of time to learn.

If the downside of that is missing out on BJ Raji at 3 or Sintim/Connor Barwin at 34...well, that's worth it to me.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:49 PM
ok OTW I just remember people laughing about the chris JOhnson pick I do my homework guys I know alot about guys in the draft every year.

Here you go.

Directly from chiefscafan's PM:

the panthers select with their pick RB Chris Johnson from eastern carolina

reason:

compliment to deangelo williams to form a lightning quick one two punch. Also with that 4.24 speed a danger on kick off and punt returns

Johnson and Williams are almost exactly the same thing.....now they have 2 undersized backs.

Chris Johnson to the Panthers......really makes no sense to me. But oh well....

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:50 PM
ok but hamas you sound like the fan that won't ever be happy. This is reguarded as one of the brilliant minds in the NFL. We aren't talking about Carl Petterson here. I question the haley hiring a little and the non activity in free agency is bugging me but I think we are gonna be alot better than some people are giving us credit for. IF its blind faith then label me a pioli follower I 'm willing to give him a chance why will none of the rest of u do this I'm just currious.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:51 PM
pestillencia


by the way for a history lesson I drafted chris Johnson for kr pr and hopefully to challenge as a running back to dangelo williams.

pestilenceaf23 not pestillencia.

And it's not like you drafted him for the Titans. Chris Johnson is the perfect compliment to the Lendale White. You have no clue if he would work out splitting time with DeAngelo Williams. They are the exact same type of RB.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Here you go.

I'm not sure why he's pimping that CJ pick.

He didn't fit with the Panthers at all.

Just because the kid excelled with the Titans doesn't make him a good pick for a team that needed a bruiser at RB.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:52 PM
I do my homework guys I know alot about guys in the draft every year.

Here is your homework.

I' m starting to lose faith in our front office we may have on our hand the worst team in the NFL.

If we don't draft good here gentleman and ladies this could set us back two or three years. I"m not trrying to freak people out but I don't like what i'm hearing from herm and company.

we are gonna build our team through the draft. Are we starting a bunch of rookies then???

The way this draft is gonna fall is scaring me too . I 'm starting to think jake long doesn't make it to us.

Then what do we do trade down? Draft best available? Reach for Need?

some of these mocks have us reaching for OTah or Claddy personally I hate both these picks. Otah is too high in his stance it scares the crap out of me that he could be bull rushed. Cladly has no heart that is a scary proposition too. He half speeds it.

so we don't take O line what do we do take McKelvin? great athelete returner but as it's been said on here many times cb's are not important to the cover 2. So who does that leave?

ryan ? if we draft him I could be done with this team for a while. I think he is overated I think he isn't as good as his press clippings suggest. Maybe not as bad as blackledge but i see as a pretty good qb. I'm sorry with the fith pick he better be elway, or manning, or bledsowe type franchise qb. Not when we could get brennan, brohm, or henne later who will probably be better qbs than him eventually. :thumb:

so now we go DT? yes we need depth there but how the heck do we know what we have in tyler or McBride yet?

personally I go best available talent hopefully on Offense but if not D is good.

this team is not good enough to pass on playmakers if someone is there that is a game changing player we have to take them no matter what position.

this is just my opinion sorry if some disagree

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:53 PM
i was drafting for the panthers dude it was who my team was I hadn't really seen enough in dangelo to not take a chance on johnson I saw you tube and read reviews on him. The more I watched the more I saw LT in him. I said this is a major steal I need to do it so I did. For an undersized back he didn't do that bad did he?

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 04:55 PM
i was drafting for the panthers dude it was who my team was I hadn't really seen enough in dangelo to not take a chance on johnson I saw you tube and read reviews on him. The more I watched the more I saw LT in him. I said this is a major steal I need to do it so I did. For an undersized back he didn't do that bad did he?

He didn't do that bad on a different team then what you drafted him for.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:56 PM
ok but hamas you sound like the fan that won't ever be happy. This is reguarded as one of the brilliant minds in the NFL. We aren't talking about Carl Petterson here. I question the haley hiring a little and the non activity in free agency is bugging me but I think we are gonna be alot better than some people are giving us credit for. IF its blind faith then label me a pioli follower I 'm willing to give him a chance why will none of the rest of u do this I'm just currious.

That "brilliant mind" has selected the following players as well:

Lawrence Maroney, Kareem Brown, Clint Oldenberg, Chad Jackson, etc.

He makes mistakes. There's nothing wrong with questioning his decisions. Hell, ask Amnorix how many times he was left scratching his head after a Pioli decision.

Just because he's better than Carl fucking Peterson doesn't make him perfect, or impervious to criticism.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-05-2009, 04:57 PM
ok but hamas you sound like the fan that won't ever be happy. This is reguarded as one of the brilliant minds in the NFL. We aren't talking about Carl Petterson here. I question the haley hiring a little and the non activity in free agency is bugging me but I think we are gonna be alot better than some people are giving us credit for. IF its blind faith then label me a pioli follower I 'm willing to give him a chance why will none of the rest of u do this I'm just currious.

I'm not giving the guy blind faith because he's never done it as the guy.

He's not Bill Polian.

He deserves a bit of skepticism.

So far, every major move he's made I've disagreed with.

I hate the move to a 3-4
I didn't like the Haley hire
I despise putting all of our eggs in the Cassel basket.

I was happy when we hired him, but I'm not going to let that overshadow what I feel are poor decisions.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 04:57 PM
wow that's awesome that you can call back on old stuff I said. I wasn't the only one wrong about Ryan alot of people misscalculated.


but what about the part you didn't highlight?

the we are gonna start alot of young guys and I don't feel comfortable with herm or carl's plan. Hmmm I was way off there huh.

everyone makes mistakes and missreads it's called being human but I wasn't far off on the prediction of this team last year.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 04:59 PM
The shoe is on the other foot now, and someone doesn't care for it...

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:02 PM
The other part I didn't highlight? Like this?

"some of these mocks have us reaching for OTah or Claddy personally I hate both these picks. Otah is too high in his stance it scares the crap out of me that he could be bull rushed. Cladly has no heart that is a scary proposition too. He half speeds it."

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:03 PM
I can't back track what all of you have said so it's not really fair but oh well I'll admit I'm not perfect. However I am dead on some statements that I 'm not getting credit for. But if you only want to pull up old statements that make me look bad keep doing it. YOu are showing how petty you are. I just want to talk football like I have since 2001.

When I get attacked it's just juvinile I think you all are gonna look real bad when sanchez isn't as great as all of you think he will be.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:04 PM
I thought you'd never ask. Right now we would like to trade down to as far as the 11 slot. The difficulty here being that we don't see many teams offering book value for our pick. The flip side of that is that we don't see a significant drop in potential player productivity between the players available at the 3rd pick than we do with the ones available at 11. Because of that we are willing to make the trade for something slightly less than book value. We feel like this team has so many needs (NT, OLB, DE, RT, C, WR) that we can get a great player in picks 4-11 just as we can at 3. Also the difference in salary that pick 11 will command vs. pick 3 will also be a determining factor in our ability to take slightly less than book value for the pick.

In summation we would be happ with a number of players, for instance if we trade with the Jags we could go WR, DE, NT, OLine and get a great player, potentially even the one we really want at the 3rd spot.

Then explain to me why anyone would want to trade up with us. Why trade up if the contract is going to be huge and you can stay put and get the same quality of player?

Pest just asked the magic question. But it was still a great post. Welcome to the board, you definitely sound like you have some football acumen. I think you'll be a welcome addition.

Direckshun
03-05-2009, 05:05 PM
I am loving this thread.

There is a very definitive difference in maturity between those in this mock and those not in it.

If that doesn't verify OTW's methodology, nothing does.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:05 PM
I can't back track what all of you have said so it's not really fair but oh well I'll admit I'm not perfect. However I am dead on some statements that I 'm not getting credit for. But if you only want to pull up old statements that make me look bad keep doing it. YOu are showing how petty you are. I just want to talk football like I have since 2001.

When I get attacked it's just juvinile I think you all are gonna look real bad when sanchez isn't as great as all of you think he will be.

It's juvenile? Juvenile like coming in and repeatedly calling out someone's picks? Because it seems to me like you've only called out Hamas so far.

I'm only bringing up your old posts for two reasons.

1. You whined about not being chosen for this mock.
2. You claim that people talked shit about your picks when we didn't.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:05 PM
No this part



I' m starting to lose faith in our front office we may have on our hand the worst team in the NFL.

If we don't draft good here gentleman and ladies this could set us back two or three years. I"m not trrying to freak people out but I don't like what i'm hearing from herm and company.

we are gonna build our team through the draft. Are we starting a bunch of rookies then???

Woodrow Call
03-05-2009, 05:08 PM
I am loving this thread.

There is a very definitive difference in maturity between those in this mock and those not in it.

If that doesn't verify OTW's methodology, nothing does.

That thought had crossed my mind.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 05:08 PM
the we are gonna start alot of young guys and I don't feel comfortable with herm or carl's plan. Hmmm I was way off there huh.

What the hell was wrong with that? The franchise was headed in the right direction for once. Herm couldnt coach and CP just needed to be gone. The roster was in great shape to rebuild the right way. We had 3 of the 5 cornerstone players needed (Albert, Bowe, Dorsey) perfect opportunity to draft our franchise QB and next year get the stud DE. Now we are back at square one IMO more than we were at the end of the year.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:08 PM
I can't back track what all of you have said so it's not really fair but oh well I'll admit I'm not perfect. However I am dead on some statements that I 'm not getting credit for. But if you only want to pull up old statements that make me look bad keep doing it. YOu are showing how petty you are. I just want to talk football like I have since 2001.

When I get attacked it's just juvinile I think you all are gonna look real bad when sanchez isn't as great as all of you think he will be.

So, when you get attacked, it's juvenile.

When you attack Hamas, it's justified.

Interesting.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:09 PM
Direckshun i'm just defending my self here


I've said numerous times I think it's great that otw does this I just don't agree to eliminate people who have done it for years


I just want to talk football you want my opinion on the rest of the picks there are some other bad head scratching picks on here.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:11 PM
Direckshun i'm just defending my self here


I've said numerous times I think it's great that otw does this I just don't agree to eliminate people who have done it for years


I just want to talk football you want my opinion on the rest of the picks there are some other bad head scratching picks on here.

Let's hear them then.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:12 PM
pest

your knowshon moreno pick is a great pick him and westbrook make a great tandem.

but pettigrew? Slow very slow and his hands are now being questioned so could be a risky pick

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:12 PM
I am loving this thread.

There is a very definitive difference in maturity between those in this mock and those not in it.

If that doesn't verify OTW's methodology, nothing does.

That thought had crossed my mind.

To be fair, fellas, there were some very well deserving people that were shut out due to the decision to go to 16 owners.

However...

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:13 PM
guess we are a little jellous about last year and my picks it's cool bring the hatred without me and limiting it to the chosen 16 you aren't getting a real mock draft and you get someone really uninformed making picks (Hamas)


but what do I know I must not be knowledgeable enough to be in this mock

LMAO The hurt butt is strong in this one.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:14 PM
pest

your knowshon moreno pick is a great pick him and westbrook make a great tandem.

but pettigrew? Slow very slow and his hands are now being questioned so could be a risky pick

And who would you have taken there instead of Pettigrew?

Pettigrew might not be your prototypical receiving TE.....but he runs great routes and is an asset in the running game. Look at the Eagles TEs....they don't stretch the field but they're great at getting that catch for a 1st down.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:15 PM
OTW I never attacked I commented on the pick and when he said his explanation I said I didn't agree but he was entitled to his opinion then I was attacked by pest and I defended myself.

I even apollogized to you which you seem to miss.


I will comment on the picks whether you believe it or not I know alot about this draft

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:16 PM
I'm not giving the guy blind faith because he's never done it as the guy.

He's not Bill Polian.

He deserves a bit of skepticism.

So far, every major move he's made I've disagreed with.

I hate the move to a 3-4
I didn't like the Haley hire
I despise putting all of our eggs in the Cassel basket.

I was happy when we hired him, but I'm not going to let that overshadow what I feel are poor decisions.

Am I in the gang of 14? I should be..........

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:16 PM
Tight End | Senior | Oklahoma St. Brandon Pettigrew
Height: 6-53/8 | Weight: 263 | 40-Time: 4.85

Strengths:
Outstanding size with a large frame...Very long arms...Smooth and a good natural athlete...Has big soft hands and can make the difficult catch...Great strength...Excellent blocker in-line and in space...Stout at the point of attack and can anchor...Gets a good push in the run game...Really knows how to use his body...Powerful runner who can do some damage after the catch...Tough with a killer instinct and plays with a nasty demeanor...Has lots of experience... Still has some upside.

Weaknesses:
Average timed speed...Is not real quick or explosive...Motor runs hot and cold at times...Has room to improve as a route runner...Needs to work on his ball security...Not very elusive...Questionable football IQ ... Minor durability concerns ... Ran into some trouble off the field.

Notes:
A four-year starter for the Cowboys...Was arrested in January of 2008 and charged with felony assault and battery on a police officer but eventually pled guilty to guilty to misdemeanor assault and battery...Was hampered by an ankle injury as a senior and missed a few games...Earns high marks as both a pass catcher and blocker...Was not a featured weapon in the Cowboys passing attack and has more potential as a receiver than he was given an opportunity to showcase in college...Can be an extension of the offensive line and almost serve as an extra offensive tackle...May not be a dynamic downfield threat in the passing game like Kellen Winslow or Vernon Davis but is a much better blocker...Not real flashy and won't run a 4.4 but is one of the best all-around tight end prospects to come along in quite some time.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2009, 05:17 PM
To be fair, fellas, there were some very well deserving people that were shut out due to the decision to go to 16 owners.

However...

Very true, not intended as a blanket statement.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:17 PM
OTW I never attacked I commented on the pick and when he said his explanation I said I didn't agree but he was entitled to his opinion then I was attacked by pest and I defended myself.

I even apollogized to you which you seem to miss.


I will comment on the picks whether you believe it or not I know alot about this draft

Dude.....I never attacked you.......I did the same thing you were doing to Hamas. You stated your opinion...and I stated mine.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:19 PM
Dude.....I never attacked you.......I did the same thing you were doing to Hamas. You stated your opinion...and I stated mine.

Like I said before, things have gotten interesting now that the shoe is on the other foot.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:20 PM
pest

actually you could get just as good of a TE in the second with maybe more potential than pettigrew. I can name some names if you want. If I were you at that pick there are two players I see stilll there which would be great picks one is a reciever and a safety. HOwever in respect to the other gms I"m not gonna mention them because it could ruin their pick.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:21 PM
pest

actually you could get just as good of a TE in the second with maybe more potential than pettigrew. I can name some names if you want. If I were you at that pick there are two players I see stilll there which would be great picks one is a reciever and a safety. HOwever in respect to the other gms I"m not gonna mention them because it could ruin their pick.

I appreciate that. I'm confident there are no less than 12 participants who would draft anyone you mentioned just based on your superior draft knowledge alone. Thank you for respecting our mock.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:22 PM
pest

actually you could get just as good of a TE in the second with maybe more potential than pettigrew. I can name some names if you want. If I were you at that pick there are two players I see stilll there which would be great picks one is a reciever and a safety. HOwever in respect to the other gms I"m not gonna mention them because it could ruin their pick.

Aw, fuck it. Go ahead and mention them. Hamas fucked up the whole mock already. /You and Hootie.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:22 PM
I appreciate that. I'm confident there are no less than 12 participants who would draft anyone you mentioned just based on your superior draft knowledge alone. Thank you for respecting our mock.

LMAO

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:23 PM
ok hold on there pest I only deffended myself when you said some comment to the point we don't have to hear you comment that every pick is a steal. That was rude so I deffended myself.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:25 PM
ok hold on there pest I only deffended myself when you said some comment to the point we don't have to hear you comment that every pick is a steal. That was rude so I deffended myself.

I said the same thing in last years mock. Sue me.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:25 PM
See this is why this board has fallen apart if people don't agree with the ones running the board or with enough posts their opinion doesn't count. It's sad that this board has become this.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:29 PM
ok what about kenny britt
what about robienski (sp?) from ohio state
or rashard johnson safety from alabama to replace dawkins

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:29 PM
See this is why this board has fallen apart if people don't agree with the ones running the board or with enough posts their opinion doesn't count. It's sad that this board has become this.

For fuck sake.

Your opinion counts, Christ, at this point you probably have more posts than any of the fucking participants. It's noted, in black and fucking white.

Don't act like it's OK for you to come in here and stir shit up, then get all butthurt when the tables are turned on you.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:30 PM
ok what about kenny britt
what about robienski (sp?) from ohio state
or rashard johnson safety from alabama to replace dawkins

I don't consider any of those guys to be worth a 1st round pick.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:31 PM
See this is why this board has fallen apart if people don't agree with the ones running the board or with enough posts their opinion doesn't count. It's sad that this board has become this.

Dude...no one has said anything about your opinion not counting. You can state your opinion all you want.

the Talking Can
03-05-2009, 05:31 PM
wtf

is this a day care?

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:31 PM
See this is why this board has fallen apart if people don't agree with the ones running the board or with enough posts their opinion doesn't count. It's sad that this board has become this.

Well, bye

http://www.theboxset.com/images/reviewcaptures/612capture_tombstone03.jpg

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:33 PM
wtf

is this a day care?

No shit, dude.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:34 PM
terry's son the receiver from ohio state ran a 4.49 forty i think he's gonna sneak into the first if not pardon me LOL pest he will be a steal.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:36 PM
ok butt hurt if that's what you think that's cool. I'm deffending myself and I get ganged up on. That isn't right I can take it though I'm still here I haven't posted a I'm leaving the board forever yet. OH and before you pull it up from the archives I did it once before but I came back because this is my source for chiefs news well it use to be.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:38 PM
ok butt hurt if that's what you think that's cool. I'm deffending myself and I get ganged up on. That isn't right I can take it though I'm still here I haven't posted a I'm leaving the board forever yet. OH and before you pull it up from the archives I did it once before but I came back because this is my source for chiefs news well it use to be.

http://i41.tinypic.com/2gwgp4j.jpg

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 05:39 PM
ok what about kenny britt
what about robienski (sp?) from ohio state
or rashard johnson safety from alabama to replace dawkins

Britt is a 2nd and the other two are late 2nd/3rd prospects.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:39 PM
I gotta head to class, fellas.

I look forward to scrolling through 80 pages of whining when I get home to find the pick for the Browns.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:42 PM
I gotta head to class, fellas.

I look forward to scrolling through 80 pages of whining when I get home to find the pick for the Browns.

The Browns already picked dude.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 05:42 PM
With two picks in the second round it gives the Browns a certain amount of flexibility. This guy can do it all including sell popcorn. With the 36th pick overall the Cleveland Browns select Connor Barwin, DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati

I'm beginning to see a disturbing trend developing that drafting right behind OTW is NOT going to be beneficial to my draft board.:doh!:

Here you go.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:43 PM
With two picks in the second round it gives the Browns a certain amount of flexibility. This guy can do it all including sell popcorn. With the 36th pick overall the Cleveland Browns select Connor Barwin, DE/OLB/TE, Cincinnati

I'm beginning to see a disturbing trend developing that drafting right behind OTW is NOT going to be beneficial to my draft board.:doh!:

OTW, you're welcome.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:43 PM
The Browns already picked dude.

Goddammit.

Who?

I must have missed it with all the goddamn whining going on.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:43 PM
Here you go.

Quick on the trigger. We've got good hearted GM's here. Take notes ca. There's always next year.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 05:44 PM
They took Barwin. Seahawks are up.

OnTheWarpath58
03-05-2009, 05:44 PM
Thanks, fellas.

Sorry I missed it.

I'll check in later.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 05:46 PM
flopnuts i've done it the last four years I know about the mock thank you

Sfeihc
03-05-2009, 05:49 PM
Yeah back to the draft. I don't like to name drop on players still available so I won't but it came down to Barwin(last pass rusher this high on my board) and a few other players. Seeing the Browns were only slightly better than the beloved Chiefs last season at sacking the qb I had to make the move. I didn't like any of the olb, 3-4 types to take one at #5 overall and figured I could snatch Barwin or Sintim early in the second.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 05:51 PM
I got two guys targeted for the Bengals so I am in good shape.

eazyb81
03-05-2009, 05:57 PM
Sorry to interrupt the fighting, but the Seattle Seahawks are bringing their pick to the podium.....

This was an interesting decision for me. On one hand, the Seahawks don't have many glaring weaknesses, and on paper seem like a decent team that simply had an unlucky year. They were killed by injuries and ended up combining a poor offense with the worst pass defense in the league.

On the other hand, when you really take a hard look at this roster, this team doesn't have enough impact talent to make it worthwhile to continue to patch the roster in hopes of winning 8 or 9 games and squeaking into the playoffs. With a new coach taking over this year, this will hopefully be the catalyst for the front office turning the page on the solid Seattle teams from earlier this decade and starting a true rebuild.

With that in mind, it gives me great honor to announce the 37th pick in the draft........Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State.

As some of you may know, I've been to known to pimp Freeman at times on this board, much to the chagrin of Hamas and others, so I knew I would get shit if I passed on him here. But honestly, I think this would be a perfect situation for him, as Hasselbeck still has a few years left in the tank so Freeman will have the time to sit and learn for a couple years before jumping into the fire.

Freeman needs work on his mechanics, but the coaching he received at KSU has been awful (Had a different QB coach every year) and he still improved each year. What I like most about him are his tools - bazooka arm, prototype size, and excellent athleticism.

Combining his natural talent with a patient pro coaching staff will help him reach his upside in the next couple years, which IMO is the next Big Ben.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 05:59 PM
flopnuts i've done it the last four years I know about the mock thank you

I'm not talkin about the past. That's over with. It's gone. Forever. You gotta move on. You gotta get over it. It happens. It's called life. No, I'm talkin about the future. I mean, that's all we got. We gots ta build on that. And the way you build on that.....is to learn from your mistakes. Get better. Every day. Play. to. win. thegame. Take your notes. Do your homework. Get lined up. Get ready. Then perform. Perform.

milkman
03-05-2009, 06:01 PM
The Browns already picked dude.

It was easy to miss because of all the brown that was running through this thread.

I wonder when it's bedtime for lil chiefsca?

Mr. Flopnuts
03-05-2009, 06:01 PM
Sorry to interrupt the fighting, but the Seattle Seahawks are bringing their pick to the podium.....

This was an interesting decision for me. On one hand, the Seahawks don't have many glaring weaknesses, and on paper seem like a decent team that simply had an unlucky year. They were killed by injuries and ended up combining a poor offense with the worst pass defense in the league.

On the other hand, when you really take a hard look at this roster, this team doesn't have enough impact talent to make it worthwhile to continue to patch the roster in hopes of winning 8 or 9 games and squeaking into the playoffs. With a new coach taking over this year, this will hopefully be the catalyst for the front office turning the page on the solid Seattle teams from earlier this decade and starting a true rebuild.

With that in mind, it gives me great honor to announce the 37th pick in the draft........Josh Freeman, QB, Kansas State.

As some of you may know, I've been to known to pimp Freeman at times on this board, much to the chagrin of Hamas and others, so I knew I would get shit if I passed on him here. But honestly, I think this would be a perfect situation for him, as Hasselbeck still has a few years left in the tank so Freeman will have the time to sit and learn for a couple years before jumping into the fire.

Freeman needs work on his mechanics, but the coaching he received at KSU has been awful (Had a different QB coach every year) and he still improved each year. What I like most about him are his tools - bazooka arm, prototype size, and excellent athleticism.

Combining his natural talent with a patient pro coaching staff will help him reach his upside in the next couple years, which IMO is the next Big Ben.


I came very close to drafting him with the Rams for the same reasons. Either team would be a good fit for Freeman.

Pestilence
03-05-2009, 06:02 PM
I'm not talkin about the past. That's over with. It's gone. Forever. You gotta move on. You gotta get over it. It happens. It's called life. No, I'm talkin about the future. I mean, that's all we got. We gots ta build on that. And the way you build on that.....is to learn from your mistakes. Get better. Every day. Play. to. win. thegame. Take your notes. Do your homework. Get lined up. Get ready. Then perform. Perform.

Get. on. the. bus.

Sfeihc
03-05-2009, 06:03 PM
The bus came by and I got on that's when it all began............LMAO

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 06:07 PM
great pick by the seahawks I love that he can develop behind hasselback. Freeman has so much potential with some good coaching he could be a great qb. Great pick gives him time to learn.

Sfeihc
03-05-2009, 06:12 PM
great pick by the seahawks I love that he can develop behind hasselback. Freeman has so much potential with some good coaching he could be a great qb. Great pick gives him time to learn.

Unless Mora and Knapp took some smart pills good luck to Freeman getting good coaching in Seattle. Like the pick, not the coaches.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 06:15 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if freeman turns out to be better than sanchez this board will explode lol

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 06:31 PM
Cincinnati has major holes at 3 positions but one was relieved a little bit with the Benson resigning. That leaves center and tackle. I narrowed my choices between two guys Meredith from South Carolina and Unger from Oregon. Meredith can play either tackle position and has great feet, Unger is a beast at center and can play guard as well. But the center class is deep and I dont see much drop off from Unger to Caldwell, Wood, Shipley etc.

Cincinnati Bengals select Jamon Meredith, OT South Carolina.

Great Expectations
03-05-2009, 06:35 PM
Then explain to me why anyone would want to trade up with us. Why trade up if the contract is going to be huge and you can stay put and get the same quality of player?


Other teams might not have as many needs as we do. Maybe their biggest missing piece is an OLB or a WR. Maybe another team has different grades for some players than we do. Maybe the 5 pick needs to jump the 4 pick to get who they want. There are many possible senarios as to why a team would want to trade up, maybe their gm is on the hot seat and he thinks one player will make a difference in the season and he makes a move in a desperation move to save his job.

chiefscafan
03-05-2009, 06:40 PM
I agree great expectations we don't know what's gonna happpen but I have a feeling we field some calls for that number 3 pick. I still want the two eagles picks and a second that would greatly help us.

ChiefsCountry
03-05-2009, 06:53 PM
I still want the two eagles picks and a second that would greatly help us.

And I want to bone Carrie Underwood but the chances of either these are slim to none.

Woodrow Call
03-05-2009, 11:57 PM
After being decimated by injuries on the O-Line last year it's time to add a guy who can fill a lot of different roles....

The Jacksonville Jaguars select Max Unger G/C, Oregon

bdeg
03-06-2009, 07:05 AM
Then explain to me why anyone would want to trade up with us. Why trade up if the contract is going to be huge and you can stay put and get the same quality of player?
You can't get the same OT or QB, which we don't need.

If Stafford falls to us we will have lots of options. It's perfect that Seattle is picking right behind us, because they would probably take the top QB or OT now that Crabtree won't run a 40. Teams will be looking to jump ahead of them if they hope to land a top tackle, and if they value the top 2 OT's about the same our best value comes with only one left at our pick. So I think there's a good chance there will be some offers on the table.

Worse case scenario might actually be Stafford and Sanchez going 1,2 because who is there for teams to trade up for? Maybe Curry or Crabtree, but unless a team really values Smith over Monroe or vice versa they will probably wait.

Spicy McHaggis
03-06-2009, 09:44 AM
I looked at DT in the 1st round and now seems a good time to address it.

Raiders select Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss

(sorry I can't bold t, these crappy computers at school don't keep my font editing for some reason.)

Pestilence
03-06-2009, 09:59 AM
I looked at DT in the 1st round and now seems a good time to address it.

Raiders select Peria Jerry, DT, Ole Miss

(sorry I can't bold t, these crappy computers at school don't keep my font editing for some reason.)

There you go.

HemiEd
03-06-2009, 11:26 AM
Wouldn't it be funny if freeman turns out to be better than sanchez this board will explode lol
I am calling it now, better than Stafford also. Of course, I don't know shit about how to judge this stuff.

Pestilence
03-06-2009, 04:29 PM
*SSSSSSCCCCCCCRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEAAAAAAAACCCCCCCCHHHHHHHHHHHH*

:D

OnTheWarpath58
03-06-2009, 07:50 PM
Milkman has until 10:59 tomorrow morning to make his pick.

Otherwise, at 11:00, Mecca is on the clock.

milkman
03-06-2009, 08:16 PM
Packers still need bodies for the front 7 on defense, their corners are getting older, and at RB they've got a bunch of scrubs after Ryan Grant, who really isn't all that great either.

But I just don't like any of the players available at this pick in any of those positions, so in the end, I decided to go with a guy I've been really high on all season long.

With Mark Tauscher and and Chad Clifton getting older and fighting injuries recently, the Pack select Fenuki Topou, OT, Oregon.

Mecca
03-06-2009, 08:23 PM
And now I have possibly the easiest pick I will ever make..the Bills missed out on a pass rusher in the 1st round but sat far to high to take a TE who didn't really fit their needs.

Here in the 2nd round a great athlete who can stretch the seem and make big plays has fallen...so the Bills will finally address a position that has had a hole in it for over a decade..

The Bills select, Jared Cook, TE, South Carolina

This former WR, is just the type of athletic playmaker the Bills need not to mention he posted the 2nd fastest 40 ever rub by a TE at the combine.

DaKCMan AP
03-06-2009, 10:23 PM
The 49ers still have some bigger needs at QB and CB, but can't pass up a great prospect at a position that can be greatly improved. Isaac Bruce is ancient and Bryant Johnson bolted for Detroit.

The 49ers select Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-06-2009, 11:22 PM
The 49ers still have some bigger needs at QB and CB, but can't pass up a great prospect at a position that can be greatly improved. Isaac Bruce is ancient and Bryant Johnson bolted for Detroit.

The 49ers select Hakeem Nicks, WR, UNC.

That's a great pick.

Halfcan
03-06-2009, 11:33 PM
*two silenced gunshots, followed by the crumpling of a body*

Well, now that we've taken care of that Conchiglie eating mother****er, I can actually get back to the draft board. Unfortunately, I can't unload Sloppy Seconds in this draft to Tampa or Denver, but rest assured, I'd love to do so.

The golden rule of the NFL draft is that you can't pass on a potential franchise QB if you don't have one. Kansas City doesn't have one. So, with that being said,

The Kansas City Chiefs select Mark Sanchez, QB, University of <del>big titted coeds</del> Southern California.

Sanchez can sit behind Sloppy for a year to get used to the speed of the game. And since we still own his rights through 2010 (barring the expiration of the CBA), we can unload the sumbitch to a team in desperate need of a quarterback.

well this pick is wrong now-with Cassell-Sanchez falls Way back.

Halfcan
03-06-2009, 11:33 PM
Chiefs take Curry.

Spicy McHaggis
03-07-2009, 09:40 AM
The Nicks pick right before kills me. Agh.

With the Parcells ideal of building strong (literally) lines and the resigning of Vernon Carey at tackle the Miami Dolphins select:

Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma

Direckshun
03-07-2009, 01:06 PM
Steal.

Will be scary to have him next to Jake Long.

Direckshun
03-07-2009, 01:27 PM
The Giants have a couple interesting receivers they could pick interest in at this point, but the prospects at Safety are just too golden to pass on. Not a single safety has been picked in this draft (with the exception of Malcolm Jenkins, who could play safety), which literally means my big board is top-heavy right now with safeties, and the Giants now are in the driver's seat to pick the one they believe is the best in the entire draft. They are looking for more elite talent to put next to Phillips.

Who am I looking at right now?

1. Sean Smith, Utah. Smith projects to either safety position, but he might be even better at corner, another position the Giants are shopping for. Smith's specialty is man-coverage on tall receivers, which fits like a tee for strong safety and all the tight ends he'd face across the middle. He is very tall, loves contact, and has a Brandon Flowers-like swagger to him that is too much for more conservative GMs, but is my bread and butter.

2. William Moore, Missouri. Moore would work for me primarily because Kenny Phillips already has the free safety position down pat, and Moore projects to be more of a strong safety. Moore's ceiling isn't as high as Smith's, but if he stays healthy he WILL be a safety this team can rely on, whereas Smith may not even end up playing the position.

3. Louis Delmas, Western Michigan. Delmas is just intriguing to me because he had such a good senior week. I honestly think he was just amusing because the safety class is a bit shallow this year, and this smallish guy from a smallish school showed big, big heart.

4. Patrick Chung, Oregon. Great team leader who made a lot of noise in the Pac-10.

They almost literally are 1st through 4th the players on my board right now. It's in this order:

Smith
Chung
Moore
Delmas

So the Giants are going to challenge their coaching staffs this year. Not only did they pick a project DE in the first round with an incredibly high roof but high bust potential, they are going to pick a CB/S hybrid with an incredibly high roof as well. There's less of a chance Smith busts, though, because his play elevated every single time the games did, and I love it when a guy steps up. Physically, he's no Chase Daniel, but it's hard to pass on a 6'4" safety/corner prospect with decent speed and plenty of mental toughness.

The Giants need a starting safety or a corner. Smith is a great gamble for them.

With the 45th pick in the NFL Draft, the New York Giants select CB/S Sean Smith, from the University of Utah. Go Utes.

Direckshun
03-07-2009, 01:33 PM
I win the Draft, by the way.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-07-2009, 03:03 PM
I win the Draft, by the way.

It's a good thing you didn't take Chung. That guy plays in the Pac 1, remember?

ChiefsCountry
03-07-2009, 06:57 PM
Dang I was hoping Smith would slip to Da Boys.

OnTheWarpath58
03-07-2009, 06:59 PM
Dang I was hoping Smith would slip to Da Boys.

He wouldn't have gotten by the Patriots.

Mecca
03-07-2009, 07:14 PM
With the TO move and Jared Cook I just gave the Bills an outstanding set of playmakers.

OnTheWarpath58
03-07-2009, 07:14 PM
With the TO move and Jared Cook I just gave the Bills an outstanding set of playmakers.

Too bad they don't have a QB to get them the ball...

Mecca
03-07-2009, 07:19 PM
Too bad they don't have a QB to get them the ball...

Well he has 2 issues...1 he sucks against the 3-4, 2 when Lee Evans is your only receiving weapon that isn't a RB teams will gang up on him.

All the guys they've tried at the 2 have sucked, they haven't had a TE in over a decade.

DeezNutz
03-07-2009, 08:07 PM
Too bad they don't have a QB to get them the ball...

Given the success of Ryan and Flacco last season, coupled with their off-season moves, the Bills might be willing to give up quite a bit to make a trade to get into position to draft a QB...

eazyb81
03-08-2009, 09:48 AM
Well, this thing has slowed to a halt this weekend.

By my calculation, Marco has less than 4 hours to make his pick.

OnTheWarpath58
03-08-2009, 10:38 AM
Well, this thing has slowed to a halt this weekend.

By my calculation, Marco has less than 4 hours to make his pick.

He'll end up getting a few extra hours if he doesn't pick by 2:00 - I have a 2:12 tee time, and I follow him.

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-08-2009, 10:45 AM
He'll end up getting a few extra hours if he doesn't pick by 2:00 - I have a 2:12 tee time, and I follow him.

Hope your knockdown shot is polished.

OnTheWarpath58
03-08-2009, 10:47 AM
Hope your knockdown shot is polished.

LMAO

Yeah, it's a bit breezy, but at least we didn't get any rain in my neck of the woods.

Spicy McHaggis
03-08-2009, 11:09 AM
Well he has 2 issues...1 he sucks against the 3-4, 2 when Lee Evans is your only receiving weapon that isn't a RB teams will gang up on him.

All the guys they've tried at the 2 have sucked, they haven't had a TE in over a decade.

Keep fucking doubting Derek Fine.

Marco Polo
03-08-2009, 12:21 PM
Sorry for the delay fellas.

Donald Brown seems to be the newest hot prospect at the running back position. Charles Davis of the NFL Network currently has him ranked No. 10 overall on his big board. With the recent trend of having a RB duo, the Texans elect to go with this approach.

With the 46th pick in the NFL Draft, the Houston Texans select Donald Brown, RB, Connecticut.

The Patriots are on the clock.

bdeg
03-08-2009, 12:51 PM
Good value. Glad you went with a RB, although I would've been tempted by Shonn Greene :)

ChiefsCountry
03-08-2009, 02:41 PM
Personally I really dont mind on weekends if people are a little later with their picks.

Marco Polo
03-08-2009, 03:05 PM
Good value. Glad you went with a RB, although I would've been tempted by Shonn Greene :)

As an Iowa fan, I was going to wait until the 3rd round and then pick up Greene. But I had to go with what I felt is more accurate.

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 08:11 AM
The Patriots had a WR targeted with this pick before the draft started, but they went out and wasted a draft pick on Greg Lewis.

I could pick him anyway, but he really doesn't fit anymore with the addition of Lewis.

So, I'll go with the top rated player on my board.

The Patriots select:

Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon

Chung is exactly the kind of SS they are looking for to replace Rodney Harrison.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 09:34 AM
The Broncos are ecstatic that the player they wanted has fallen to them in the 2nd round. They grabbed Tyson Jackson in the 1st round to plug a hole at DE in the 3-4 and now they're going to grab their NT. With the 48th pick the Denver Broncos select:

Ron Brace, DT/NT, Boston College

Jackson and Brace will anchor this 3-4, or at least until they switch again, for the next 8-10 years.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-09-2009, 09:42 AM
The Bears were looking at filling a pending hole at RT with this pick but are shocked to see a stud WR still on the board.

With the 49th pick the Bears select Kenny Britt WR Rutgers At 6'4, 210lbs and a 4.48 40, this guy has all the tools to be an all pro at the next level. If he can hold onto the ball.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 09:43 AM
The Bears were looking at filling a pending hole at RT with this pick but are shocked to see a stud WR still on the board.

With the 49th pick the Bears select Kenny Britt WR Rutgers At 6'4, 210lbs and a 4.48 40, this guy has all the tools to be an all pro at the next level. If he can hold onto the ball.

:banghead::#:cuss:

Mr. Flopnuts
03-09-2009, 09:44 AM
:banghead::#:cuss:

LMAO Had him targeted for the Eagles? I kept waiting, and waiting, and waiting for someone to snatch him. I was going OT all the way. When he was there, well, it was pretty easy.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 09:45 AM
LMAO Had him targeted for the Eagles. I kept waiting, and waiting, and waiting for someone to snatch him. I was going OT all the way. When he was there, well, it was pretty easy.

Yeah he was going to be my pick for the Eagles. I was hoping he would fall...but I guess not. There just isn't any value at OT right now.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-09-2009, 09:48 AM
Yeah he was going to be my pick for the Eagles. I was hoping he would fall...but I guess not. There just isn't any value at OT right now.

Yeah, it was a little early for the OT I had in mind, but it's a pretty glaring need for the Bears on the right side. I admit, I planned on reaching.

ChiefsCountry
03-09-2009, 12:28 PM
The Patriots had a WR targeted with this pick before the draft started, but they went out and wasted a draft pick on Greg Lewis.

I could pick him anyway, but he really doesn't fit anymore with the addition of Lewis.

So, I'll go with the top rated player on my board.

The Patriots select:

Patrick Chung, SS, Oregon

Chung is exactly the kind of SS they are looking for to replace Rodney Harrison.

:# :cuss: :#

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 12:34 PM
:# :cuss: :#

Sorry, I had to.

The Pats DB's are flat out awful.

Signing Springs will help at CB for a year or two. I really wanted Sean Smith because of his versatility.

There were 5 guys at that spot I would have been REALLY happy with, and Chung was at the top of the list.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 12:34 PM
Sorry, I had to.

The Pats DB's are flat out awful.

Signing Springs will help at CB for a year or two. I really wanted Sean Smith because of his versatility.

There were 5 guys at that spot I would have been REALLY happy with, and Chung was at the top of the list.

I contemplated taking Sean Smith in the 1st round for the Eagles but I thought that'd be a little bit of a reach. Plus they went out and got Jones to play Safety for them. Stupid FA!

DaKCMan AP
03-09-2009, 12:36 PM
Looks like the GM was corrected, but the current pick should be the Browns, not the Bucs.

Sfeihc
03-09-2009, 12:39 PM
With their second pick in the second round the Cleveland Browns select the son of their former coach, Brian Robiskie, WR, OSU.

The Browns holes are many. The WR position needs a player who can catch(Hello Edwards) and who isn't a jake(Hello Stallworth).

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 12:42 PM
With their second pick in the second round the Cleveland Browns select the son of their former coach, Brian Robiskie, WR, OSU.

The Browns holes are many. The WR position needs a player who can catch(Hello Edwards) and who isn't a jake(Hello Stallworth).

That's the guy I had targeted for the last Patriots pick before we ever started.

Fuck Greg Lewis.

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 12:42 PM
Looks like the GM was corrected, but the current pick should be the Browns, not the Bucs.

Got it. Thanks.

ChiefsCountry
03-09-2009, 12:49 PM
Jerry Jones likes athletes. And this player was rated as a first round pick most of the season until he sucked it up on the field. But he is too talented to pass on for the Cowboys.

Dallas Cowboys select William Moore, S Missouri

DaKCMan AP
03-09-2009, 12:50 PM
The Browns holes are many.

uh-huh-huh

http://home.teleport.com/%7Erasputin/ImageFiles/BeavisButthead.jpg

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 12:50 PM
Jerry Jones likes athletes. And this player was rated as a first round pick most of the season until he sucked it up on the field. But he is too talented to pass on for the Cowboys.

Dallas Cowboys select William Moore, S Missouri

:cuss::cuss::cuss:

DeezNutz
03-09-2009, 12:50 PM
And this player was rated as a first round pick most of the season until he sucked it up on the field.

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-09-2009, 12:54 PM
That's the guy I had targeted for the last Patriots pick before we ever started.

Fuck Greg Lewis.

He was going to the Bucs had they not traded that pick for the Fucking Soulja.

Look at it this way: You got 7 picks in the first two rounds. I had two. :(

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 12:55 PM
He was going to the Bucs had they not traded that pick for the Fucking Soulja.

Look at it this way: You got 7 picks in the first two rounds. I had two. :(

I WIN THE DRAFT.

Sfeihc
03-09-2009, 12:57 PM
That's the guy I had targeted for the last Patriots pick before we ever started.

**** Greg Lewis.

I was hoping BR or Britt would slide to the Brownies. All other positions of need felt like a reach there and BR is about a no-brainer, sure thing as there is in this draft.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 12:57 PM
Where is Direckshun with his "Top 5 Available"? I need to know who to draft next.

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 12:58 PM
Where is Direckshun with his "Top 5 Available"? I need to know who to draft next.

I tried drawing him out with my "I win the draft" post.

ChiefsCountry
03-09-2009, 12:59 PM
Nate Davis is still on the board. Not good for the Iggles though.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 01:01 PM
If the Panthers had a different GM....then I could see Nate Davis being a steal!

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 01:02 PM
If the Panthers had a different GM....then I could see Nate Davis being a steal!

LMAO

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Fifteen more picks. God, it's been an eternity.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-09-2009, 01:04 PM
6 picks so far today. Good job everyone.

Sfeihc
03-09-2009, 01:08 PM
The Vikes are virtually assured of getting the player they are targeting here since he isn't a fit with the Jets or Eagles.

Care to guess the pick?

Woodrow Call
03-09-2009, 01:38 PM
The New York Jets select Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose State

'Hamas' Jenkins
03-09-2009, 01:39 PM
The New York Jets select Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose State

You goddamned motherfucker.

OnTheWarpath58
03-09-2009, 01:41 PM
The New York Jets select Jarron Gilbert DE San Jose State

Goddamnit, Archie. Guess the Patriots aren't getting a DE in the draft this year.

Pestilence
03-09-2009, 02:04 PM
The Eagles were hoping for Kenny Britt or William Moore to fall to them at this spot....but it didn't work out. The Eagles don't have a LOT of holes....and the value to fill those holes right now....isn't that great. So with that the Eagles will look to add depth. The Giants proved that you can never have enough defensive linemen on your team, so with the 53rd selection the Philadelphia Eagles select.

Robert Ayers, DE, University of Tennessee

ChiefsCountry
03-09-2009, 02:16 PM
The Eagles were hoping for Kenny Britt or William Moore to fall to them at this spot....but it didn't work out. The Eagles don't have a LOT of holes....and the value to fill those holes right now....isn't that great. So with that the Eagles will look to add depth. The Giants proved that you can never have enough defensive linemen on your team, so with the 53rd selection the Philadelphia Eagles select.

Robert Ayers, DE, University of Tennessee

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Pestilence
03-09-2009, 02:32 PM
The Vikes are virtually assured of getting the player they are targeting here since he isn't a fit with the Jets or Eagles.

Care to guess the pick?

You're up.