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MIAdragon
03-03-2009, 09:23 PM
Id need a change my boxers after this.

Hunter Barely Avoids Lion Charge

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Smed1065
03-03-2009, 09:25 PM
But they used guns.............

KcMizzou
03-03-2009, 09:27 PM
I was rooting for the lion.

Jenson71
03-03-2009, 09:28 PM
Like playing Marco Polo with a shark, hunting lions doesn't seem like the smartest idea.

KcMizzou
03-03-2009, 09:31 PM
Hunting deer, turkey, pheasants, whatever... I get that. No problem.

Lions? That shits just for braggin' rights.

Decidedly uncool.

Sure-Oz
03-03-2009, 09:34 PM
Hunting deer, turkey, pheasants, whatever... I get that. No problem.

Lions? That shits just for braggin' rights.

Decidedly uncool.
Ghost in the darkness was sweet

KcMizzou
03-03-2009, 09:37 PM
Ghost in the darkness was sweetHell yeah. :D

Frankie
03-03-2009, 09:41 PM
I was rooting for the lion.

Exactly. I wish he had gotten him. Seems to me the beast was the most civilized being in this video. God rest its soul. I hope he has a great place in the Lion's heaven.

Cannibal
03-03-2009, 10:27 PM
I was rooting for the lion.

As was I. I so wish it would have ripped them all apart and dined on their innards.

KCCHIEFS27
03-03-2009, 10:28 PM
I was hoping they were surrounded by a pride and the others were laying low. Once they saw the big guy go down, they come in out of nowhere and rip apart each and every one of those guys. Don't tell me you guys haven't seen this one either. Can't even see the bastard coming..go to the 1:45 mark..things get CRAZYY.

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Hog Farmer
03-04-2009, 10:18 AM
Exactly. I wish he had gotten him. Seems to me the beast was the most civilized being in this video. God rest its soul. I hope he has a great place in the Lion's heaven.


Oh, Jesus Christ ! Give me a break!

Frankie
03-04-2009, 10:30 AM
Oh, Jesus Christ ! Give me a break!

Why? are we so selfish to claim heaven just for us? If there's a creator and a heaven, then should it not be for all his creatures?

Jerm
03-04-2009, 10:34 AM
Never seen that video, awesome.

This one is pretty epic too...

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DJ's left nut
03-04-2009, 10:39 AM
Hunting deer, turkey, pheasants, whatever... I get that. No problem.

Lions? That shits just for braggin' rights.

Decidedly uncool.

Absolutely.

Who the hell sport hunts a lion? We aren't exactly flush with them, y'know. I'm not real worried about one of those things jumping out in front of my car if we don't thin the population.

That sucks. With any luck, somebody will just blast that asshole the next time he goes to the gas station.

MOhillbilly
03-04-2009, 10:47 AM
first dudes shot bounces off a tree, second dudes shot hits the lion in the hind leg. if that second shot hadnt of made the lion pull up abit the old boy who hit the off switch was toast.

Hog Farmer
03-04-2009, 10:50 AM
As was I. I so wish it would have ripped them all apart and dined on their innards.



Well her then you should enjoy this one.

Warning, GRAPHIC!


http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Lion-attack-Man-WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-551081.html

Redrum_69
03-04-2009, 11:04 AM
Well her then you should enjoy this one.

Warning, GRAPHIC!


http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Lion-attack-Man-WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-551081.html



LOL gives new meaning to "cirque de soul"

Redrum_69
03-04-2009, 11:05 AM
I dont think the "play dead" option is for lions.

DJ's left nut
03-04-2009, 11:11 AM
Well her then you should enjoy this one.

Warning, GRAPHIC!


http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Lion-attack-Man-WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-551081.html

Also sucks in that the lion died, person didn't.

It's a MFing lion that had a cub in the cage with it. Just exactly what the hell did you expect it to do?

Ideal video:

1) Dipshit(s) voluntarily put selves in situation with lion.
2) Said dipshit(s) do something to anger lion without being provoked such as shoot it or get in an enclosed space with it and its young.
3) Lion kills and eats aforementioned dipshit(s), takes a nice dump for its trouble, goes about its merry way.

Redrum_69
03-04-2009, 11:12 AM
w t f

http://www.break.com/index/disabled-hockey-players-brawl.html

MOhillbilly
03-04-2009, 11:17 AM
Also sucks in that the lion died, person didn't.

It's a MFing lion that had a cub in the cage with it. Just exactly what the hell did you expect it to do?

Ideal video:

1) Dipshit(s) voluntarily put selves in situation with lion.
2) Said dipshit(s) do something to anger lion without being provoked such as shoot it or get in an enclosed space with it and its young.
3) Lion kills and eats aforementioned dipshit(s), takes a nice dump for its trouble, goes about its merry way.

ummm thats a dog.

Pablo
03-04-2009, 11:18 AM
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Not graphic or violent, just funny.

DJ's left nut
03-04-2009, 11:18 AM
ummm thats a dog.

Eh, F-em anyway. Don't get in a cage w/ a damn lion.

Delano
03-04-2009, 11:21 AM
Exactly. I wish he had gotten him. Seems to me the beast was the most civilized being in this video. God rest its soul. I hope he has a great place in the Lion's heaven.

Ed Abbey said, "Whenever I see a photograph of some sportsman grinning over his kill, I am always impressed by the striking moral and aesthetic superiority of the dead animal to the live one."

How fuckin' true.

Jerm
03-04-2009, 11:24 AM
Whoever that idiot was shooting that lion in the cage needs to head back to the range lol. Took him what, 4 shots from point blank range to disable the lion? Sheesh, what a moron. He had a square on shot with the front of the lion's head...should've been one shot and humanly done.

Hog Farmer
03-04-2009, 11:28 AM
Whoever that idiot was shooting that lion in the cage needs to head back to the range lol. Took him what, 4 shots from point blank range to disable the lion? Sheesh, what a moron. He had a square on shot with the front of the lion's head...should've been one shot and humanly done.


I think he was using a .22 caliber.

I swear, if I ran a circus, (which sometimes I wander if I don't) I would always have a very large caliber weapon at my immediate disposal!

Jerm
03-04-2009, 11:46 AM
I think he was using a .22 caliber.

I swear, if I ran a circus, (which sometimes I wander if I don't) I would always have a very large caliber weapon at my immediate disposal!

Ah that might have been why...didn't get a good look at the gun.

I just assumed, like you, that it was a large caliber. Just figured the moron wouldn't come rolling up to a lion's cage in a desperate situation with a .22.

Cannibal
03-04-2009, 08:47 PM
Well her then you should enjoy this one.

Warning, GRAPHIC!


http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Lion-attack-Man-WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-551081.html

Thank you! At least it's 1-1 now.

Fritz88
03-04-2009, 08:53 PM
Hunting deer, turkey, pheasants, whatever... I get that. No problem.

Lions? That shits just for braggin' rights.

Decidedly uncool.

This.

Delano
03-04-2009, 09:12 PM
One time I went to a friend of a friend's parent's house and he had this huge room filled with stuffed wildlife. The taxidermy was incredible, I'll give him that, but the whole display was rather sickening. The guy probably had a hundred pieces in this room. The centerpiece was two lions attacking a water buffalo. There were several monkeys on the walls and he had a baboon set up with a candy bowl in it's hands. WTF is the point. He was driven to within shooting distance in an open-top vehicle and pulled the damn trigger. There is no sportsmanship in that.

The whole thing was a huge self pat on the back and revolting.

notorious
03-04-2009, 10:10 PM
It takes a big man to take out an animal with technology. I always chuckle when a person puts themselve in a bad situation when they start in a far superior position when it comes to game hunting. Hunt for food is OK, but hunting to say,"Look how great I am, shooting an animal with a gun from long range" is just Fuggin stupid.

SBK
03-04-2009, 10:22 PM
It takes a big man to take out an animal with technology. I always chuckle when a person puts themselve in a bad situation when they start in a far superior position when it comes to game hunting. Hunt for food is OK, but hunting to say,"Look how great I am, shooting an animal with a gun from long range" is just Fuggin stupid.

Yep.

I've never understood hunting of something simply to kill it. If you want to eat it, great, but to get your rocks off killing it is strange.

Goldmember
03-04-2009, 10:31 PM
Well her then you should enjoy this one.

Warning, GRAPHIC!


http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Lion-attack-Man-WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-551081.html

Served him right dumb MF!! The lion probably was tortured and abused all his life.

Goldmember
03-04-2009, 10:36 PM
yeah, what the hell was the dog doing in the cage anyway? Was it the lion's pet?

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 09:06 AM
Yep.

I've never understood hunting of something simply to kill it. If you want to eat it, great, but to get your rocks off killing it is strange.


Who's to say they didn't eat the Lion ? We're you there?

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 09:09 AM
It takes a big man to take out an animal with technology. I always chuckle when a person puts themselve in a bad situation when they start in a far superior position when it comes to game hunting. Hunt for food is OK, but hunting to say,"Look how great I am, shooting an animal with a gun from long range" is just Fuggin stupid.


Yeah, The smart thing to do is to see how close you can get,:rolleyes:

Molitoth
03-05-2009, 09:14 AM
F8ck all these people that hunt Lions. I hope they get eaten.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 09:22 AM
The sad part is the Lions get the 1st overall pick!

Dartgod
03-05-2009, 09:24 AM
Exactly. I wish he had gotten him. Seems to me the beast was the most civilized being in this video. God rest its soul. I hope he has a great place in the Lion's heaven.

Oh, Jesus Christ ! Give me a break!
For real, man!

Except the lion will be waiting for the hunters at the Lion's Rainbow Bridge so he can get his revenge before crossing over.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 09:27 AM
I'm sorry but if the Lion and myself meet in heaven, I'll still have a rifle with me!

rockymtnchief
03-05-2009, 09:52 AM
Never seen that video, awesome.

This one is pretty epic too...

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Those guys are lucky they didn't shoot eachother.

Frankie
03-05-2009, 10:06 AM
I'm sorry but if the Lion and myself meet in heaven, I'll still have a rifle with me!

They have a Check-weapons-at-the-Gate policy.

Groves
03-05-2009, 10:20 AM
I've never understood hunting of something simply to kill it. If you want to eat it, great, but to get your rocks off killing it is strange.

It makes as much sense as hitting a little white ball around or two men hitting each other in a ring until one can't go on. Or even 11 men combatting 11 others to move some inflated leather thing.

If you understand competition, it makes complete sense.

I think you're just against the killing part, or maybe just the senseless killing part. So am I, but I'm not sure what that has to due with a regulated african lion hunt.

They don't just give away these lion hunting permits, ya know. They're not like prizes from some ski-ball tickets.

Now, whether the regulators are giving out too many permits, that's something to consider.

Jilly
03-05-2009, 10:25 AM
I don't get hunting, period. How can someone shoot and kill something so beautiful?

Groves
03-05-2009, 10:33 AM
We for sure agree on the beautiful part. Likely we agree that we want to do whatever it takes to keep many many of these animals around. Robust and healthy prides.

I love my trees. I think they're beautiful, too. In the interest of my tree's long term health, I *need* to cut off some of the branches. That's the way it is with trees.

Animals are not trees, but pursuing the long term health of a predator population in most cases *necessitates* the removal of some animals. That's the way it is.

What do you have against the prevention of starving and sick animals?

Jilly
03-05-2009, 10:34 AM
Aren't lions going extinct though?

Jilly
03-05-2009, 10:35 AM
We for sure agree on the beautiful part. Likely we agree that we want to do whatever it takes to keep many many of these animals around. Robust and healthy prides.

I love my trees. I think they're beautiful, too. In the interest of my tree's long term health, I *need* to cut off some of the branches. That's the way it is with trees.

Animals are not trees, but pursuing the long term health of a predator population in most cases *necessitates* the removal of some animals. That's the way it is.

What do you have against the prevention of starving and sick animals?

I don't see how "offing" the predator helps its population?

Groves
03-05-2009, 10:40 AM
It's quite possible that lions are being over hunted, and if that's true, it needs to stop immediately. Why kill off a great species?

Groves
03-05-2009, 10:43 AM
I don't see how "offing" the predator helps its population?

It's the same way that "offing" a branch of a tree actually can make it (the remaining tree) healthier. It's a big picture decision.

If you cut off all the branches from a tree, though, it dies. If that's what's happening to the lions, we'd better change the way we regulate the permits. No question.

KCrockaholic
03-05-2009, 10:50 AM
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Not graphic or violent, just funny.

LMAO!! That was awesome

Frankie
03-05-2009, 11:15 AM
I don't get hunting, period. How can someone shoot and kill something so beautiful?

:clap:

Frankie
03-05-2009, 11:20 AM
Well her then you should enjoy this one.

Warning, GRAPHIC!


http://www.break.com/usercontent/2008/8/Lion-attack-Man-WARNING-GRAPHIC-CONTENT-551081.html

Wow. A lot of Farsi screamed in that video.

Otter
03-05-2009, 11:27 AM
Hunting deer, turkey, pheasants, whatever... I get that. No problem.

Lions? That shits just for braggin' rights.

Decidedly uncool.

Agreed. If all you're out to do is kill something at the top of the food chain to prove, whatever, do it with your bare hands or maybe a knife. Any cock smooch can kill an animal with a high power rifle from 100 yards away.

Short dick syndrome.

Delano
03-05-2009, 11:40 AM
It's the same way that "offing" a branch of a tree actually can make it (the remaining tree) healthier. It's a big picture decision.

If you cut off all the branches from a tree, though, it dies. If that's what's happening to the lions, we'd better change the way we regulate the permits. No question.

Well there is a caveat to what you said.

It depends on how the branch is cut - flush cuts are now known to cause severe decay issues, etc... The field of arboriculture is rapidly evolving. I'm not sure ALL the African parks and preserves have the best science motivating their decisions.

Aldo Leopold got it right when it comes to hunting ethics 75 years ago.

Delano
03-05-2009, 11:45 AM
Aren't lions going extinct though?

They are listed as vulnerable.

From wiki:

Most lions now live in eastern and southern Africa, and their numbers there are rapidly decreasing, with an estimated 30Ė50 percent decline over the last two decades.<sup id="cite_ref-IUCN_5-1" class="reference"></sup>

Currently, estimates of the African lion population range between 16,500 and 47,000 living in the wild in 2002Ė2004,<sup id="cite_ref-118" class="reference"></sup> down from early 1990s estimates that ranged as high as 100,000 and perhaps 400,000 in 1950.

The cause of the decline is not well-understood, and may not be reversible. Currently, habitat loss and conflicts with humans are considered the most significant threats to the species. The remaining populations are often geographically isolated from each other, which can lead to inbreeding, and consequently, a lack of genetic diversity.

Not really a shining endorsement for culling any of the animals.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 12:10 PM
I don't get hunting, period. How can someone shoot and kill something so beautiful?


You're supposed to hold your breath as you squeeze the trigger slowly.

Other than that you need the appropriate caliber weapon for the designated target.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 12:13 PM
If there were Lions in the United States you would feel differently about killing them.

Hey, Did you hear what happened to Uncle Ed.

No ,Why!

Well, he was out mowing his lawn and a lion ate him!

Not him too!

Frankie
03-05-2009, 12:26 PM
If there were Lions in the United States you would feel differently about killing them.

Hey, Did you hear what happened to Uncle Ed.

No ,Why!

Well, he was out mowing his lawn and a lion ate him!

Not him too!

Yeah, I'm sure these guys are killed that lion to save their hometown.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 12:39 PM
Yeah, I'm sure these guys are killed that lion to save their hometown.

Well, The locals sell Lion hunts for $50,000. They get the rich people to come over with a pocket full of money and do what they need done. Win Win, for them!

Frankie
03-05-2009, 12:49 PM
Well, The locals sell Lion hunts for $50,000. They get the rich people to come over with a pocket full of money and do what they need done. Win Win, for them!

Oh so the hunters are not jerks. I get it.

Radar Chief
03-05-2009, 12:59 PM
I don't get hunting, period. How can someone shoot and kill something so beautiful?

Well, when it’s headed straight for you at close range like that you can pretty much aim straight for its heart.
If it’s running left to right, or visa versa, you have to “lead it” or aim in front of it by a few inches to a few feet depending on how far it is away, the speed your prey is moving at, and the speed of the bullet your rifle fires.
Hope that helps.

Radar Chief
03-05-2009, 01:03 PM
You're supposed to hold your breath as you squeeze the trigger slowly.

Oh, Hog Farmer, Iíd have thought youíd know better.
You donít hold your breath that can cause your heart to race and give you the shakes.
Slow steady breathing is what you want. Inhale get your site picture, exhale squeeze the trigger. ;)

Jilly
03-05-2009, 01:12 PM
Well, when itís headed straight for you at close range like that you can pretty much aim straight for its heart.
If itís running left to right, or visa versa, you have to ďlead itĒ or aim in front of it by a few inches to a few feet depending on how far it is away, the speed your prey is moving at, and the speed of the bullet your rifle fires.
Hope that helps.


you're gross

Radar Chief
03-05-2009, 01:21 PM
you're gross

ROFL You asked how, there’s your answer.
Now if you’re asking why, I don’t know, I’m not particularly motivated to go hunt lion. ;)

Donger
03-05-2009, 01:30 PM
I'm not a hunter, but I can't say I blame them for defending themselves. I doubt that kitty was running at them to play.

Of course, perhaps they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

Radar Chief
03-05-2009, 02:10 PM
Besides, Jilly, that’s a play on an old joke from Full Metal Jacket.
How can you shoot women and children?
Easy, you just don’t lead'em so much.

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Jilly
03-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Besides, jilly, thatís a play on an old joke from Full Metal Jacket.



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I hate that freaking movie!!! My ex made me watch it like a billion times.

Jilly
03-05-2009, 02:12 PM
Radar Chief - you are rubbin me wrong today!!!!

Radar Chief
03-05-2009, 02:16 PM
I hate that freaking movie!!! My ex made me watch it like a billion times.

Guy flick, youíre not supposed to like it.
Did you make him watch Steel Magnolias?

Jilly
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
Guy flick, youíre not supposed to like it.
Did you make him watch Steel Magnolias?

nope. I didn't. Why? Because I'm awesome.

googlegoogle
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
why were they hunting this animal? aren't their populations dwindling?

Donger
03-05-2009, 02:17 PM
Besides, jilly, thatís a play on an old joke from Full Metal Jacket.



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I do a sanitized version of the following when my children misbehave. They think it's funny:

Who said that? Who the f*ck said that? Who's the slimy little communist sh*t, twinkle-toed c*cksucker down here who just signed his own death warrant? Nobody, huh? The fairy f*cking godmother said it. Out-f*cking-standing! I will PT you all until you f*cking die! I'll PT you until your *ssholes are sucking buttermilk! Was it you, you scroungy little f*ck, huh?

Radar Chief
03-05-2009, 02:18 PM
Radar Chief - you are rubbin me wrong today!!!!

Well if thereís any rubbing going on we wouldnít want it to be the wrong way.
Sorry, Iíll stop.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 02:21 PM
why were they hunting this animal? aren't their populations dwindling?

Oh Geez, Not again:doh!: . The locals hired these hunters because every time one of them tries to mow the lawn they get eatin.

Jilly
03-05-2009, 02:23 PM
Oh Geez, Not again:doh!: . The locals hired these hunters because every time one of them tries to mow the lawn they get eatin.

Didn't these people choose to live there knowing that lions might live there too?

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 02:33 PM
Didn't these people choose to live there knowing that lions might live there too?

Why yes, your absolutely right. The African tribes migrated from America to africa after thinking the only animal in Africa was the Jack Rabbit.

mikey23545
03-05-2009, 02:36 PM
Who's to say they didn't eat the Lion ? We're you there?

You are undoubtedly a huge swirling black hole of stupidity. Any glimmer of intelligence that approaches you is surely torn apart by the intense tidal forces of dumbassery that lie beyond the event horizon of collapsed sub-intellect that comprises your being.

The lion that got shot must have had an I.Q. thousands of times greater than your own.

Brock
03-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Didn't these people choose to live there knowing that lions might live there too?

That's what wildlife preserves are for, unless you like the idea of mountain lions running around in your neighborhood.

rockymtnchief
03-05-2009, 04:04 PM
Any cock smooch can kill an animal with a high power rifle from 100 yards away.


Not the fools in these videos. You have to shoot it numerous times from 10 feet. They better get bigger rifles or sight in their scopes after getting off the plane.

Chiefnj2
03-05-2009, 04:21 PM
The vid in post #13 looks like a canned hunt to me.

Yep. More of the video is here: http://www.bigcatrescue.org/cannedhunt.htm under "lion fights back"

The thing was in a pen and wanted to walk away.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 04:25 PM
You are undoubtedly a huge swirling black hole of stupidity. Any glimmer of intelligence that approaches you is surely torn apart by the intense tidal forces of dumbassery that lie beyond the event horizon of collapsed sub-intellect that comprises your being.

The lion that got shot must have had an I.Q. thousands of times greater than your own.



ROFL :LOL:

rockymtnchief
03-05-2009, 04:30 PM
The vid in post #13 looks like a canned hunt to me.

Yep. More of the video is here: http://www.bigcatrescue.org/cannedhunt.htm under "lion fights back"

The thing was in a pen and wanted to walk away.

That's not hunting.:shake:

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 04:37 PM
Woah. Check out this lion attack!!


http://www.bigcatrescue.org/video/b42008/0MovieClipCannedHuntLioness5.htm

HonestChieffan
03-05-2009, 04:44 PM
Peter Capstick wrote some great books on living and working in Africa as a game manager. Reading those can give you some understanding of what living in proximity to dangerous game is like.

Delano
03-05-2009, 04:50 PM
Peter Capstick wrote some great books on living and working in Africa as a game manager. Reading those can give you some understanding of what living in proximity to dangerous game is like.

I doubt wildlife science and management have changed much since the 70's, right?

There seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding the guy.

HonestChieffan
03-05-2009, 04:50 PM
You are undoubtedly a huge swirling black hole of stupidity. Any glimmer of intelligence that approaches you is surely torn apart by the intense tidal forces of dumbassery that lie beyond the event horizon of collapsed sub-intellect that comprises your being.

The lion that got shot must have had an I.Q. thousands of times greater than your own.


Aside from this full out assult on HF, I need to ask, do you assume that when African game is hunted that the meat is not eaten?

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 04:52 PM
Aside from this full out assult on HF, I need to ask, do you assume that when African game is hunted that the meat is not eaten?

Of course he assumes that! He's a Moron!

Delano
03-05-2009, 04:56 PM
Aside from this full out assult on HF, I need to ask, do you assume that when African game is hunted that the meat is not eaten?

Eaten by hyenas, wild dogs, other lions, carrion eaters. Is that what you mean?

HonestChieffan
03-05-2009, 05:26 PM
No Im asking. My understanding of most African hunts was the the natives do use all the meat from everything that is shot. Ive never been to Africa but know some people who have.

Have you been there?

re Capstick. What controversy?

Frankie
03-05-2009, 05:33 PM
I'm not a hunter, but I can't say I blame them for defending themselves. I doubt that kitty was running at them to play.

Of course, perhaps they shouldn't have been there in the first place.

I bet they had already wounded the Lion.

Frankie
03-05-2009, 05:35 PM
Why yes, your absolutely right. The African tribes migrated from America to africa after thinking the only animal in Africa was the Jack Rabbit.

OK that one was funny.:LOL:

Delano
03-05-2009, 05:40 PM
No Im asking. My understanding of most African hunts was the the natives do use all the meat from everything that is shot. Ive never been to Africa but know some people who have.

Have you been there?

re Capstick. What controversy?

He dabbled in hyperbole in his writing.

I've never been in Africa, no.

The natives may eat some of the kills but that doesn't mean the hunt is done in a sporting manner. Same as canned hunts in big Texas ranches.

HonestChieffan
03-05-2009, 05:43 PM
So you dont really know. Me either.

What animals do they do these "canned hunts" for and what makes them a "canned hunt"?

Delano
03-05-2009, 05:48 PM
So you dont really know. Me either.

What animals do they do these "canned hunts" for and what makes them a "canned hunt"?

http://tinyurl.com/cjsx52

HonestChieffan
03-05-2009, 05:57 PM
Interesting. This would lead me to believe that any "trophy hunt" is a "canned hunt". But that does not allow for Trophy hunting in fair chase situations to be anything but "canned". Looking at the information your google search turned up it seems "canned hunt" is even used to describe pheasant or quail hunting where pen raised birds are stocked are considered canned hunts.

The term is being used to paint any hunting with a very negative sweep of the brush. There are many places that do pen raised bird releases in open hunting situations and they are close to home not in Texas. The anti(insert cause here) hyperbole and labeling of things "they" dont like certainly does not make the anti side a credible source now does it.

Delano
03-05-2009, 06:12 PM
Interesting. This would lead me to believe that any "trophy hunt" is a "canned hunt". But that does not allow for Trophy hunting in fair chase situations to be anything but "canned". Looking at the information your google search turned up it seems "canned hunt" is even used to describe pheasant or quail hunting where pen raised birds are stocked are considered canned hunts.

The term is being used to paint any hunting with a very negative sweep of the brush. There are many places that do pen raised bird releases in open hunting situations and they are close to home not in Texas. The anti(insert cause here) hyperbole and labeling of things "they" dont like certainly does not make the anti side a credible source now does it.

Well I'm not sure how familiar you are with Pheasant behavior, but once you release them from a cage in an area of cover, they will stay put (within a reasonable amount of time) until scared up by a dog or hunter. That kind of makes it a canned hat.

Check the wikipedia entry and not the Humane Society webpage on canned hunts.

I'm not even talking about the "anti" thing you are; that's an argument you can use in the DC forum but not here. Read Leopold's 'Wildlife in American Culture' and his 'Conservation Esthetic' if you'd like something from a sportsman.

I had a bunch of articles from a Human Dimensions in Wildlife class but I recycle them and I don't have the time to bring them up.

Hog Farmer
03-05-2009, 07:20 PM
You are undoubtedly a huge swirling black hole of stupidity. Any glimmer of intelligence that approaches you is surely torn apart by the intense tidal forces of dumbassery that lie beyond the event horizon of collapsed sub-intellect that comprises your being.

The lion that got shot must have had an I.Q. thousands of times greater than your own.



I don't think so because I would have run the opposite direction!

DJ's left nut
03-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Looking at the information your google search turned up it seems "canned hunt" is even used to describe pheasant or quail hunting where pen raised birds are stocked are considered canned hunts.


That is a canned hunt.

DJ's left nut
03-05-2009, 07:38 PM
Well I'm not sure how familiar you are with Pheasant behavior, but once you release them from a cage in an area of cover, they will stay put (within a reasonable amount of time) until scared up by a dog or hunter.


Unless they're pen-raised.

A pen-raised pheasant will pretty much not take flight unless you step on it.

You bring your dog with you, you get to within about 10 feet of the bird, generally you're able to actually see the stupid thing while it's still on the ground and finally it will fly if your dog barks at it a couple times.

Though to pick nits, your characterization isn't quite accurate. They'll run like a sumbitch until they hit open field and/or a blocker. Even then, they still might not take off.

Delano
03-05-2009, 07:41 PM
Unless they're pen-raised.

A pen-raised pheasant will pretty much not take flight unless you step on it.

You bring your dog with you, you get to within about 10 feet of the bird, generally you're able to actually see the stupid thing while it's still on the ground and finally it will fly if your dog barks at it a couple times.

Though to pick nits, your characterization isn't quite accurate. They'll run like a sumbitch until they hit open field and/or a blocker. Even then, they still might not take off.

Yes, that is the point I was trying to make. I don't understand the thrill in that at all. I have the same problem with road hunting.

Also, the idea of placing pheasants would not be successful if they ran off as soon as they were released. My characterization was representing the bird before they hear a predator.

HonestChieffan
03-06-2009, 07:11 AM
Yes, that is the point I was trying to make. I don't understand the thrill in that at all. I have the same problem with road hunting.

Also, the idea of placing pheasants would not be successful if they ran off as soon as they were released. My characterization was representing the bird before they hear a predator.


Are you a hunter?

Road hunting and poaching are both very wrong.

Delano
03-06-2009, 08:38 AM
Are you a hunter?

Road hunting and poaching are both very wrong.

At one point I was an avid hunter. Now, the only time I shoot a gun is pest control at my grandparents place. My father fills one or two Whitetail deer tags each year and I eat some of the products.

Believe it or not, road hunting is legal in South Dakota. Disgusting.

Hog Farmer
03-06-2009, 09:38 AM
At one point I was an avid hunter. Now, the only time I shoot a gun is pest control at my grandparents place. My father fills one or two Whitetail deer tags each year and I eat some of the products.

Believe it or not, road hunting is legal in South Dakota. Disgusting.


I can't understand why anybody would want to shoot a road!

Delano
03-06-2009, 10:32 AM
I can't understand why anybody would want to shoot a road!

I can't understand why anybody would end every sentence with an exclamation point.

Hog Farmer
03-06-2009, 10:37 AM
I can't understand why anybody would end every sentence with an exclamation point.


! I don't

notorious
03-06-2009, 10:53 AM
It takes a big man to take out an animal with technology. I always chuckle when a person puts themselve in a bad situation when they start in a far superior position when it comes to game hunting. Hunt for food is OK, but hunting to say,"Look how great I am, shooting an animal with a gun from long range" is just Fuggin stupid.


Yeah, The smart thing to do is to see how close you can get,:rolleyes:

Hopefully this response was sarcasm......

If not:


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