*****Official KU @ TTU game thread*****

[HC_Chief]

3 for 17...yeah that can't happen Sherron.

Aldrich had a shitty game too.

KU is not going to win many games where both of their star players lay an egg

[KC_Connection]

wow....that 3 was a dagger.

Man...it's not like all of their 3 pt shots have been wide open....many have been with a hand in their face.

He's got seven 3's. A career night on his last night in Lubbock.

[DJJasonp]

wow....collins has lost his mind.

[KC_Connection]

Aldrich had a shitty game too.

KU is not going to win many games where both of their star players lay an egg

Aldrich's excuse is those weak fouls that were called on him. Collins just threw bricks up all game long.

[Sure-Oz]

God what a brick by collins

[Mr. Plow]

This is what happens when your 2 best player have off nights and the other team shoots well from 3.

[Buehler445]

Now they're forcing everything. It's over.

[KC_Connection]

Texas Tech is so hot-cold. If this team showed up every game... I'd be scared.
They had actually been playing a lot of close games over the last few weeks.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

KU always gets everyone's A game...

[Sure-Oz]

If i had a shot for every brick collins has thrown up id be seriously fucked up

[DJJasonp]

If were going to do an analogy:

At Texas Tech is to Self....as at Iowa State was for Williams

[Sure-Oz]

LOL, the overrated chants coming back at KU

[KcMizzou]

He's an idiot. But didn't I tell you MU would win? :)You did.

[Bearcat]

Indeed. I think we've seen why it's not a smart idea to expect a Final Four or anything like that out of this group, though. Games like this happen to young teams. It's amazing it hasn't happened more often in the last few months to be honest.

I've been saying that for the past few weeks... that they could lose in the first weekend, or maybe make it to the SS or EE.

This is college basketball... sh*t happens.

[007]

Damn, just turned it on. talk about a shitty start to my night.

[KC_Connection]

You did.
I didn't predict this loss, though. So I'm not that big of a genius.

[The Buddha]

They had actually been playing a lot of close games over the last few weeks.

Good for them. I like Pat Knight, and hope the best for him. Until they play the tigers.

KU always gets everyone's A game...

That's true. People who don't like KU... HATE KU. There's no Big 12 basketball fan that doesn't either LOVE them or HATE them. Kinda like Oklahoma in football...:mad:

[Mr. Plow]

KU always gets everyone's A game...


Yes, and the refs were calling EVERYTHING on us tonight.

[007]

Looks like another flip flop in the polls for KU and MU.

[KC_Connection]

Jeez...this is like the worst epic failure of a game....in a while. Well since the Mass game.

[Mr. Plow]

ok Bill. Take the starters out.

[Dartgod]

That's true. People who don't like KU... HATE KU. There's no Big 12 basketball fan that doesn't either LOVE them or HATE them. Kinda like Oklahoma in football...:mad:
I don't hate KU.








I hate KU fans. :D

[KC_Connection]

Looks like another flip flop in the polls for KU and MU.

Until we crush them in the big 12 championship, you mean. :)

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Yes, and the refs were calling EVERYTHING on us tonight.

you get that kind of attention when you're sporting Thug 1 and Thug 2. And a coach that can't seem to control himself.

[KC_Connection]

ok Bill. Take the starters out.

What would you call the guy from high school musical, then?

[Mr. Plow]

Jesus. He is 7-12 from 3.

[doomy3]

Damn. Brutal game. I hope Taylor's OK.

[KcMizzou]

I didn't predict this loss, though. So I'm not that big of a genius.Meh, to your credit, I would never have predicted it either.

Just KU's hangover after their Super Bowl, I guess.

:D

[Bearcat]

Condolences on the loss.

BTW, where's Comochief?

We'd like to burn him Salem style, if you fellas don't mind.

Eh, I'm over it. A win vs Texas and this game is completely pointless... a loss versus Texas and we still have a share of what no one thought Kansas would accomplish this year.

Congrats on the win versus OU... it would be crazy if they ended up in a tie for the conference. :eek:

[HC_Chief]

Hopefully we'll see TT again in the tourney :evil:

[KC_Connection]

Damn, just turned it on. talk about a shitty start to my night.
Start to your night? I'm thinking about just going to sleep now to forget about this shit.

[Mr. Plow]

LOL

[petegz28]

KU is getting embarrased now...

[Mr. Plow]

9-14 from 3.

[Bearcat]

And a coach that can't seem to control himself.

I swear you and the other 3 KSU fans (not including kstater) have become the same person. LMAO

[DJJasonp]

hey....27 people in attendance are rushing the court!

[KcMizzou]

Eh, I'm over it. A win vs Texas and this game is completely pointless... a loss versus Texas and we still have a share of what no one thought Kansas would accomplish this year.

Congrats on the win versus OU... it would be crazy if they ended up in a tie for the conference. :eek:

Ok.

Can we still burn Homochief?

[Braincase]

Wow. Credit where credit's due. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for KU. Voskuil has a career high on senior night, and is in tears at the end of the game. TT storms the court.

[KC_Connection]

Eh, I'm over it.
The Mizzou loss felt a lot worse because of the way we gave that one up. This one was just a numbing loss.

Voskiul had nine 3's??? Ridiculous.

[KC_Connection]

hey....27 people in attendance are rushing the court!

lolz

[HC_Chief]

Until we crush them in the big 12 championship, you mean. :)

MU's gotta make it there first ;)

[DJay23]

Damn. Brutal game. I hope Taylor's OK.

Looked like a cramp the way he was walking, but I'm no doctor.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I swear you and the other 3 KSU fans (not including kstater) have become the same person. LMAO

hey, I'm just saying Self has 3 technicals this season, and honestly probably deserved another 1 or 2 for his courtside antics.

for all the grief we get about Martin, he's NEVER had a T.

[ROYC75]

Wow. Credit where credit's due. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for KU. Voskuil has a career high on senior night, and is in tears at the end of the game. TT storms the court.

I had many concerns with this game ....... Oh well, a young team, gotta learn somehow. No defense, No offense, TT shooting lights out on 3's, Sr. Night, revenge from last year's game ?

It was just one of those nights.:huh:

[KcMizzou]

MU's gotta make it there first ;)Well hell, we've shown we can beat everyone.. other than the split with you.

Granted, you got the better end of it... but I'm up for a rematch. :shrug:

[Lzen]

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Really, MIkey? I thought you were above this. Well, enjoy the NIT this year.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Really, MIkey? I thought you were above this. Well, enjoy the NIT this year.

oh, come off it, even most KU fans would admit the Morris twins are getting out of control.

[KC_Connection]

hey, I'm just saying Self has 3 technicals this season, and honestly probably deserved another 1 or 2 for his courtside antics.

for all the grief we get about Martin, he's NEVER had a T.

You do understand that technicals have strategic value, right? The fact that Martin's never had one would seem to be a bad thing.

[The Buddha]

The Mizzou loss felt a lot worse because of the way we gave that one up. This one was just a numbing loss.

Voskiul had nine 3's??? Ridiculous.

I think Voskiul is amazing. But then again, I enjoy watching a quality jump-shooter than a slasher/poster anyday.

[Silock]

These nights happen. They rode a hot hand, we couldn't hit ANYTHING. It happens. Better it happens now than in a tournament.

[Lzen]

Aldrich had a shitty game too.

KU is not going to win many games where both of their star players lay an egg

Very true. Although I will cut Aldrich a little slack. He spent quite a bit of time on the bench. Collins needed to step it up and be our offense and he didn't.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

You do understand that technicals have strategic value, right? The fact that Martin's never had one would seem to be a bad thing.

oh yeah, that T tonight really helped. Was Morris' T strategic too?

[Bearcat]

Wow. Credit where credit's due. Everything that could go wrong did go wrong for KU. Voskuil has a career high on senior night, and is in tears at the end of the game. TT storms the court.

Definitely... it was their Senior Night and we embarrassed them last year at our Senior Night. Despite being 2-12, they've at least had a couple of close games lately. Kansas didn't play well, but Tech really wanted to win their SB.

Ok.

Can we still burn Homochief?

I don't think we officially claim him, so whatever. :shrug:

The Mizzou loss felt a lot worse because of the way we gave that one up. This one was just a numbing loss.

Voskiul had nine 3's??? Ridiculous.

Yeah, and I'd rather rip off the band-aid... even though they came back in the second half for a bit, I never got the feeling we were in it. Much easier than watching a 14 point lead melt away.

[Reerun_KC]

oh yeah, that T tonight really helped. Was Morris' T strategic too?

Come back when your going dancing... Umkay?

[The Buddha]

You do understand that technicals have strategic value, right? The fact that Martin's never had one would seem to be a bad thing.

I've never really thought of this, being a fairly uneducated B-Ball fan. But it makes perfect sense...

I get excited about seeing an excited coach. As long as he's not all Bobby Knight about it. I enjoy the cool, calm guy, who knows WHEN to get angry, not just be pissed off constantly.

Coach K does this well, IMO.

[DJay23]

Hopefully we'll see TT again in the tourney :evil:
We will...when our guys are in the stands on an off day watching their first round loss.

[Reerun_KC]

16 3's?

R u Serious?

[ROYC75]

Very true. Although I will cut Aldrich a little slack. He spent quite a bit of time on the bench. Collins needed to step it up and be our offense and he didn't.

Both of them being off was the key, Cole was hampered by fouls. FTR, I saw a lot of crappy calls both ways. Just one of those nights, credit TT.

[HC_Chief]

Come back when your going dancing... Umkay?

The NIT is kind of a dance. Sort of. Like dancing with a retarded cousin maybe?

[Reerun_KC]

We will...when our guys are in the stands on an off day watching their first round loss.

I would love to meet them in the tourney, but chances are slim to none... This was one of those majical nights for someone in the big 12....

[HC_Chief]

We will...when our guys are in the stands on an off day watching their first round loss.

You never know... maybe they'll draw KSU :evil:

[The Buddha]

The NIT is kind of a dance. Sort of. Like dancing with a retarded cousin maybe?

I wish they'd expand to twice as many teams.

I know a few years as a Mizzou fan where they didn't get invited, and I was sad. All I wanted to see is them have a CHANCE at some postseason play.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

What an embarrassing game for KU. Came out in the first half with no heart or fire; and then Tech made 15-27 from 3. FUGGING 55% from 3! I don't care who you are that is nearly impossible to overcome. Escpecially when KU shot 33%.


A side note; that T on Morris was a joke. The twins need to start really kissing ass to every official because they are quickly getting a reputation they do not want.

[Reerun_KC]

Both of them being off was the key, Cole was hampered by fouls. FTR, I saw a lot of crappy calls both ways. Just one of those nights, credit TT.

Yep, Hitting all those 3's didnt hurt....

Its been awhile since I have witnessed someone go off like that... Amazing...

[ArrowheadHawk]

Well, Fuck. Every year there is one game that KU blows that they should have won. Usually at OSU or TT. God Damn it. How come I never heard of the dude who went nuts for 35? Does this shit only happen against KU?

[mikeyis4dcats.]

You never know... maybe they'll draw KSU :evil:

I'd like that matchup...they were such a tough opponent in MHK.

[Reerun_KC]

I wish they were good enough to make if far enough to play us again... I guess that 109-51 ass whopping we put on them last year stung alittle...

[DJay23]

You never know... maybe they'll draw KSU :evil:

ROFL Good point!

[HC_Chief]

I wish they were good enough to make if far enough to play us again... I guess that 109-51 ass whopping we put on them last year stung alittle...

Heh, yeah. After tonight's abortion they should expect a couple more of those shellackings.

[Reerun_KC]

Well, ****. Every year there is one game that KU blows that they should have won. Usually at OSU or TT. God Damn it. How come I never heard of the dude who went nuts for 35? Does this shit only happen against KU?

Just part of being KU...

But over all, this game means absolutely shit... TX is going to face a very pissed off Jayhawks team on Saturday....


We win and we win the Title out right... No harm tonight at all...


Thanks to the slavers!

[mikeyis4dcats.]

I wish they were good enough to make if far enough to play us again... I guess that 109-51 ass whopping we put on them last year stung alittle...

that was a nice win, but it's KU's 3 consecutive losses in Lubbock that should frustrate you. KU is a much better team than that. Tech is quickly becoming your kryptonite.

[KC_Connection]

I think Voskiul is amazing. But then again, I enjoy watching a quality jump-shooter than a slasher/poster anyday.
He doesn't usually make nine 3's a game. In fact, if he was even half this good on Saturday against OU, they would have won that game. That's how ridiculous he was tonight.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

I wish they were good enough to make if far enough to play us again... I guess that 109-51 ass whopping we put on them last year stung alittle...


Well after Voskulllee or what ever the f his name is kept shooting the 3 and Pat Knight calling time out with 3 seconds left I would expect something similiar next year in Lawrence.

[HC_Chief]

Just part of being KU...

But over all, this game means absolutely shit... TX is going to face a very pissed off Jayhawks team on Saturday....


We win and we win the Title out right... No harm tonight at all...


Thanks to the slavers!

No doubt. Self is going to practice them 'til they puke; then practice some more.

Texas is going to get run.

[KC_Connection]

I've never really thought of this, being a fairly uneducated B-Ball fan. But it makes perfect sense...

Self isn't blowing up at the refs without a purpose, believe me. He's a very smart guy.



I get excited about seeing an excited coach. As long as he's not all Bobby Knight about it. I enjoy the cool, calm guy, who knows WHEN to get angry, not just be pissed off constantly.

Coach K does this well, IMO.
Yes.

[ArrowheadHawk]

Just part of being KU...

But over all, this game means absolutely shit... TX is going to face a very pissed off Jayhawks team on Saturday....


We win and we win the Title out right... No harm tonight at all...


Thanks to the slavers!

Yep. Thanks Slavers. Now hopefully KU doesn't fuck up and give them a share of the conference. Who would be the one seed if that happened?

[DJay23]

that was a nice win, but it's KU's 3 consecutive losses in Lubbock that should frustrate you. KU is a much better team than that. Tech is quickly becoming your kryptonite.

No, Lubbock, Texas and Happy Friendtime Arena or whatever it's called is our kryptonite.

[Reerun_KC]

This loss goes on Buehler_445. He msn messaged me earlier with a bad feeling.. He was bad mojo and deserves to be neg repped to hell!

YOU BASTARD!

[Lzen]

oh, come off it, even most KU fans would admit the Morris twins are getting out of control.

Did you even see he play? It did not look like anything different than many other player do every single game and it never gets called a technical. When the thing at MU happened, I said Morris deserved it and no KU fan could argue. This one was different, IMO. Really cheap, BS call, as far as I could see.

[Chiefs_Mike_Topeka]

Well maybe it will be like the Ok State game last year, KU got their asses handed to them and then went on a tear to the title.

[HC_Chief]

Yep. Thanks Slavers. Now hopefully KU doesn't **** up and give them a share of the conference. Who would be the one seed if that happened?

Dumbshits on ESPN2 are trying to give 3 #1 seeds to the Big East :rolleyes:

[Bearcat]

Well, ****. Every year there is one game that KU blows that they should have won. Usually at OSU or TT. God Damn it. How come I never heard of the dude who went nuts for 35? Does this shit only happen against KU?

No. :spock:

The one off the top of my head would be KSU shooting like 55% 3s against Mizzou. There's always one or two games for just about every team. OU lost to freakin' Arkansas.

[Reerun_KC]

Yep. Thanks Slavers. Now hopefully KU doesn't **** up and give them a share of the conference. Who would be the one seed if that happened?

You could see the look on Selfs face in the second half... He was just smirking, knowing this means nothing and the ass whopping TT will get the next time wont be so exciting to TT fans...

[Buehler445]

This loss goes on Buehler_445. He msn messaged me earlier with a bad feeling.. He was bad mojo and deserves to be neg repped to hell!

YOU BASTARD!

I just said I REALLY didn't want to lose to these fuckers.

I think I posted it in here too....

You're the cocky pole smoker that said KU would win by 90.

[Mr. Kotter]

Voskuul has the game of his life. And Collins and Aldrich decide to stay on campus....and send imposters to Lubbock. Ouch.

Oh well, if nothing else it's a wake-up call; at worst, it's symptomatic of a young and inexperienced team to lose a game like this on the road. Let's hope it's a wake-up call.

BTW, congrats to the Tiggers. Nice win tonight in Columbia.

[KC_Connection]

oh yeah, that T tonight really helped.

Sometimes it works (the refs start paying attention to your grievance) and sometimes it doesn't (like tonight). The fact that it didn't tonight doesn't mean it doesn't have any strategic value, though. But considering you are a K-State fan, I'm assuming you have low BB IQ, so I don't know why I'm explaining the principle to you.


Was Morris' T strategic too?
LOL, irrelevant.

[Lzen]

These nights happen. They rode a hot hand, we couldn't hit ANYTHING. It happens. Better it happens now than in a tournament.

Hopefully this doesn't happen in the NCAA tourney. With a young team, it could happen at any time.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

No. :spock:

The one off the top of my head would be KSU shooting like 55% 3s against Mizzou. There's always one or two games for just about every team. OU lost to freakin' Arkansas.

or Clemente going off for 44 against UT.

[Spott]

Yep. Thanks Slavers. Now hopefully KU doesn't fuck up and give them a share of the conference. Who would be the one seed if that happened?

Kansas would be because of the 1st tie-breaker which is record in the division(KU has 1 loss and MU has 3). I don't know if OU would automatically get the 2 seed just for winning the South if they finish behind MU.

[Reerun_KC]

No. :spock:

The one off the top of my head would be KSU shooting like 55% 3s against Mizzou. There's always one or two games for just about every team. OU lost to freakin' Arkansas.

Yeah, there are just those nights... Every year you just sit there and go :spock: when someone is just hammering your ass from behind the arc....

Tonight was that night, just like last year at OSU...

[ArrowheadHawk]

Dumbshits on ESPN2 are trying to give 3 #1 seeds to the Big East :rolleyes:

Not in the dance in the Big 12 Tourney. With this loss tonight KU stands zero chance for the 1 seed in the big dance.

[Buehler445]

Dumbshits on ESPN2 are trying to give 3 #1 seeds to the Big East :rolleyes:

Oh come the FUCK on.

Memphis needs one and probably someone from the ACC.

[Reerun_KC]

I just said I REALLY didn't want to lose to these ****ers.

I think I posted it in here too....

You're the cocky pole smoker that said KU would win by 90.

ROFL

[KC_Connection]

I just said I REALLY didn't want to lose to these ****ers.

I think I posted it in here too....

You're the cocky pole smoker that said KU would win by 90.

You bastard. You caused our loss. Especially when you insulted their best player by calling him a European!!!

:)

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Sometimes it works (the refs start paying attention to your grievance) and sometimes it doesn't (like tonight). The fact that it didn't tonight doesn't mean it doesn't have any strategic value, though. But considering you are a K-State fan, I'm assuming you have low BB IQ, so I don't know why I'm explaining the principle to you.


LOL, irrelevant.

typical squawk. I know that a T can be strategic. I just think it's funny that for 2 years KU fans have talked themselves blue in the face about how out of control Martin is and how he's got anger issues, yet he's never been T'd up, but Self walks the sidelines huffing and puffing, getting red faced, getting T'd up and he's "strategic".

[ArrowheadHawk]

Kansas would be because of the 1st tie-breaker which is record in the division(KU has 1 loss and MU has 2). I don't know if OU would automatically get the 2 seed just for winning the South if they finish behind MU.

No they wouldn't get the 2. There is no such thing as divisions when it comes to the seedings in the tourney.

[Buehler445]

You bastard. You caused our loss. Especially when you insulted their best player by calling him a European!!!

:)

Goddamn, I wish I caused it. Then I could identify what I did and NEVER do it again...

[DJay23]

Kansas would be because of the 1st tie-breaker which is record in the division(KU has 1 loss and MU has 2). I don't know if OU would automatically get the 2 seed just for winning the South if they finish behind MU.

The thought the basketball standings did not follow the division format?

[HC_Chief]

Not in the dance in the Big 12 Tourney. With this loss tonight KU stands zero chance for the 1 seed in the big dance.

Yeah, probably right.

You never know... this year they are trying to place teams as close to home as possible (economy; need to sell tickets)

If KU trounces Texas (I see that one coming) and wins the Big XII tourney, they have a shot at a #1 seed in the big dance

[KC_Connection]

I wish they were good enough to make if far enough to play us again... I guess that 109-51 ass whopping we put on them last year stung alittle...

Heck, if they continue to play like this (incredibly unlikely, I mean the guy made 9 fucking 3's), they might upset the 5/6 seed, and we might play them.

[Reerun_KC]

You bastard. You caused our loss. Especially when you insulted their best player by calling him a European!!!

:)

Figures, he lives in Goddamn Nebraska for fucks sakes...

Nice Job Buehler!

Tool shed!

[Reerun_KC]

Heck, if they continue to play like this (incredibly unlikely, I mean the guy made 9 ****ing 3's), they might upset the 5/6 seed, and we might play them.

That would make me very happy... They wouldnt do that twice... Self would drop the hammer in round 2...

[baitism]

I wish they'd expand to twice as many teams.

I know a few years as a Mizzou fan where they didn't get invited, and I was sad. All I wanted to see is them have a CHANCE at some postseason play.

I mean, why even play a regular season and all....

[HC_Chief]

Oh well... shit game for KU, hellacious game foe Voskuil and Singletary. Nice win TT.

Knight, leaving the starters in late & calling a TO with 3 seconds left is going to come back to haunt your ass. Bank on that shit.

[hawkchief]

typical squawk. I know that a T can be strategic. I just think it's funny that for 2 years KU fans have talked themselves blue in the face about how out of control Martin is and how he's got anger issues, yet he's never been T'd up, but Self walks the sidelines huffing and puffing, getting red faced, getting T'd up and he's "strategic".

Enjoy the NIT mikey (if you get in, that is). Meanwhile, we'll enjoy our 5th straight Big XII Championship. Be sure to bring your lame shit back "next year", as we all know KSUck will be great then, that's always the case for you losers.

[KC_Connection]

Yep. Thanks Slavers. Now hopefully KU doesn't **** up and give them a share of the conference. Who would be the one seed if that happened?

OU would be #3 because they lost head-to-head to both of us. And then it would be between KU and MU with a comparison of their divisional games, which KU would win.

Hmm...KU is the #1 seed already.

[Buehler445]

Figures, he lives in Goddamn Nebraska for fucks sakes...

Nice Job Buehler!

Tool shed!

ROFL

If me living in Nebraska did it, I'm moving back TONIGHT

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Enjoy the NIT mikey (if you get in, that is). Meanwhile, we'll enjoy our 5th straight Big XII Championship. Be sure to bring your lame shit back "next year", as we all know KSUck will be great then, that's always the case for you losers.

hey lil dick, you stalking me?

[Spott]

No they wouldn't get the 2. There is no such thing as divisions when it comes to the seedings in the tourney.

Thanks. I wasn't sure if they seeded the teams like they do in football.

[KC_Connection]

Did you even see he play? It did not look like anything different than many other player do every single game and it never gets called a technical. When the thing at MU happened, I said Morris deserved it and no KU fan could argue. This one was different, IMO. Really cheap, BS call, as far as I could see.

It wasn't even an over the back call, either. And then the technical...bah. I don't complain about the refs often, but that was bush league.

Also the off-the-ball foul on Aldrich after Self went off on the refs. Also bush league.

I'm not making excuses, though. TT deserved this one.

[hawkchief]

hey lil dick, you stalking me?

No, it was just predictable you'd be on here trying to gain some degree of satisfaction from our loss. You sure as shit can't gain it from your own teams.

We'll be sure and see you around here during our post season. Doubt we'll see any more KSUck threads, that is of course until "next year" ROFL

[KC_Connection]

Dumbshits on ESPN2 are trying to give 3 #1 seeds to the Big East :rolleyes:

Who would you give the other #1 seed to, if not Louisville? Memphis? Duke?

I'd probably give it to Michigan State, but that's it.

OU doesn't deserve it, and KU played their way out of any shot of that tonight.

[Reerun_KC]

It wasn't even an over the back call, either. And then the technical...bah. I don't complain about the refs often, but that was bush league.

Also the off-the-ball foul on Aldrich after Self went off on the refs. Also bush league.

I'm not making excuses, though. TT deserved this one.

Doesnt matter overall.. We will bitch slap TX just like we did MU last weekend and we will hang ANOTHER BIG 12 Banner...

Just a small reality check for the boys.... Self will have them ready come Saturday.

[HC_Chief]

It wasn't even an over the back call, either. And then the technical...bah. I don't complain about the refs often, but that was bush league.

Also the off-the-ball foul on Aldrich after Self went off on the refs. Also bush league.

I'm not making excuses, though. TT deserved this one.

Agreed on all counts. The shitty reffing applied to both teams. The zebras were totally schizo tonight: allow brutality under the basket then whistle off the ball ticky-tack shit.

How many offensive fouls were called tonight? Even the gawd-awful ESPN2 crew noticed it.

[Silock]

Was Morris' T strategic too?

If you can show me what he did to deserve a T, I'd love to see it.

[Buehler445]

It wasn't even an over the back call, either. And then the technical...bah. I don't complain about the refs often, but that was bush league.

Also the off-the-ball foul on Aldrich after Self went off on the refs. Also bush league.

I'm not making excuses, though. TT deserved this one.

They did definitely deserve it. Almost as much as KU deserved to lose it. But you hate to see reffing like that. If reffing loses the game for TT, it would suck, also. You don't want to win OR lose that way.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Doesnt matter overall.. We will bitch slap TX just like we did MU last weekend and we will hang ANOTHER BIG 12 Banner...

Just a small reality check for the boys.... Self will have them ready come Saturday.

just don't fuck it up. Kansas needs to keep it's boot heel on the State of Texas. You guys aren't living up to your end of the deal.

[KC_Connection]

typical squawk. I know that a T can be strategic. I just think it's funny that for 2 years KU fans have talked themselves blue in the face about how out of control Martin is and how he's got anger issues, yet he's never been T'd up, but Self walks the sidelines huffing and puffing, getting red faced, getting T'd up and he's "strategic".

Martin just looks like an angry individual, though. At like all times. He looks so damn mad.

[Tiger's Fan]

I only have one comment after this game, and I'm sure to get flamed by the fans of the two, like I give a shit.

Morningstar and Reed are the two worst players at KU to get the amount of minutes they do since Ted Owens was the head coach. Unless someone like Releford starts taking minutes away from these guys, we're not going far, this year or next.

It's hard to give Self any shit after his success, and this is my only complaint with him.

Flame on...

[baitism]

If you can show me what he did to deserve a T, I'd love to see it.

It was a verbal T. He obviously had some colorful words because the guy who T'ed him up was not the one who called the foul on him.

[HC_Chief]

Who would you give the other #1 seed to, if not Louisville? Memphis? Duke?

I'd probably give it to Michigan State, but that's it.

OU doesn't deserve it, and KU played their way out of any shot of that tonight.

Like I said, if KU wins out, they should get consideration. Very strong RPI, decent SOS, quality wins against top-50.

They have a few bad losses though: Syracuse (can't believe they blew that lead at the effing Sprint Center), UMass (can't believe they lost to that shit team at the Sprint Center), and tonight.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Martin just looks like an angry individual, though. At like all times. He looks so damn mad.

See there's the problem. You've obviously never seen him off the court.

[Reerun_KC]

just don't **** it up. Kansas needs to keep it's boot heel on the State of Texas. You guys aren't living up to your end of the deal.

Your right, we arent living up to our end of the deal... We are exceeding all expectations with a team that is loaded for a serious run at at NC in 2 years...

I fully expect KU to stomp TX pathetic ass on Saturday...

[hawkchief]

Doesnt matter overall.. We will bitch slap TX just like we did MU last weekend and we will hang ANOTHER BIG 12 Banner...

Just a small reality check for the boys.... Self will have them ready come Saturday.

The banner is already in production thanks to our good Tigger friends!

[KC_Connection]

Yeah, probably right.

You never know... this year they are trying to place teams as close to home as possible (economy; need to sell tickets)

If KU trounces Texas (I see that one coming) and wins the Big XII tourney, they have a shot at a #1 seed in the big dance

They'd be a #2 in that scenario at best, IMO. The committee won't go with KU in the #1 spot after a loss like this. I also suspect KU will drop back down to #13 or so next poll (assuming they beat Texas at home, if they don't do that it could be lower I guess)

[HC_Chief]

Martin just looks like an angry individual, though. At like all times. He looks so damn mad.

Tiny penis. Poor depth.

[Reerun_KC]

I only have one comment after this game, and I'm sure to get flamed by the fans of the two, like I give a shit.

Morningstar and Reed are the two worst players at KU to get the amount of minutes they do since Ted Owens was the head coach. Unless someone like Releford starts taking minutes away from these guys, we're not going far, this year or next.

It's hard to give Self any shit after his success, and this is my only complaint with him.

Flame on...

Johnson, Robinson and Hopefully Stephenson....

[mikeyis4dcats.]

They'd be a #2 in that scenario at best, IMO. The committee won't go with KU in the #1 spot after a loss like this. I also suspect KU will drop back down to #13 or so next poll (assuming they beat Texas at home, if they don't do that it could be lower I guess)

KU was a longshot for a #1 seed even if they won tonight.

[DJay23]

Agreed on all counts. The shitty reffing applied to both teams. The zebras were totally schizo tonight: allow brutality under the basket then whistle off the ball ticky-tack shit.

How many offensive fouls were called tonight? Even the gawd-awful ESPN2 crew noticed it.

The Big XII officiating has been atrocious this year. I told the fiance we'll look awesome once we get some officials from outside the conference in the Dance.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

The Big XII officiating has been atrocious this year. I told the fiance we'll look awesome once we get some officials from outside the conference in the Dance.

doubtful....KU gets a lot of leeway at home.

[KC_Connection]

I only have one comment after this game, and I'm sure to get flamed by the fans of the two, like I give a shit.

Morningstar and Reed are the two worst players at KU to get the amount of minutes they do since Ted Owens was the head coach. Unless someone like Releford starts taking minutes away from these guys, we're not going far, this year or next.

It's hard to give Self any shit after his success, and this is my only complaint with him.

Flame on...

I've got to agree. For what they do on the court, Morningstar and Reed really play too many minutes. But honestly, it's not like they have anybody else to put in for them at this point in the season. They have to go with them.

[Reerun_KC]

KU was a longshot for a #1 seed even if they won tonight.

:shrug:

A #2 seed is just fine for a team that lost 7 players last year.....

I am sure you would trade positions with KU right about now...

[Lzen]

It wasn't even an over the back call, either. And then the technical...bah. I don't complain about the refs often, but that was bush league.

Also the off-the-ball foul on Aldrich after Self went off on the refs. Also bush league.

I'm not making excuses, though. TT deserved this one.

Yep. There were some questionable calls. But the refs didn't make all those 3s. Oh well.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

:shrug:

A #2 seed is just fine for a team that lost 7 players last year.....

I am sure you would trade positions with KU right about now...

**** off, I was just commenting on your pal that was contending KU even had a shot at #1. You were probably a 2 before tonight. Now probably a 3.

you know, everything with KU fans ALWAYS comes back to putting someone down. You can't ever have a simple conversation. And you wonder why we act the same way back to you guys after being pricks all the time.

[HC_Chief]

They'd be a #2 in that scenario at best, IMO. The committee won't go with KU in the #1 spot after a loss like this. I also suspect KU will drop back down to #13 or so next poll (assuming they beat Texas at home, if they don't do that it could be lower I guess)

Hmm, RPI and SOS weigh heavily. Right now, Duke is on top of RPI, w/ a 7 SOS.

Pitt, UConn, and Louisville are in the top ten RPI, with 18,34,16 SOS (respectively)

KU is at 7 RPI, w a SOS of 15.

Michigan State is ahead of KU in both RPI and SOS, so I suppose they would get the nod.

Memphis' RPI is 8, w/ a SOS of 51.

[KC_Connection]

Like I said, if KU wins out, they should get consideration. Very strong RPI, decent SOS, quality wins against top-50.

They have a few bad losses though: Syracuse (can't believe they blew that lead at the effing Sprint Center), UMass (can't believe they lost to that shit team at the Sprint Center), and tonight.

I do agree that they should have won the Syracuse one (I was there that night), but Syracuse is actually a very good team, and I expect them to make the SS.

UMass...well that sucked.

Arizona also sucked, but Arizona is actually good.

[Reerun_KC]

**** off, I was just commenting on your pal that was contending KU even had a shot at #1. You were probably a 2 before tonight. Now probably a 3.

Die in a Fire? :shrug:

[petegz28]

doubtful....KU gets a lot of leeway.

FYP....

[Bearcat]

Who would you give the other #1 seed to, if not Louisville? Memphis? Duke?

I'd probably give it to Michigan State, but that's it.

OU doesn't deserve it, and KU played their way out of any shot of that tonight.

I think the Big East has been overrated in the past, but this year it's tough to argue that any of the top 3 couldn't make it to the FF. It will probably come down to whether or not they all make it to the semifinals of the Big East tournament. If someone loses early, it could go to Memphis, I guess. :shrug:

[KC_Connection]

See there's the problem. You've obviously never seen him off the court.
No, but I can't imagine he'd be much different. His face just seems angry.

[DJay23]

doubtful....KU gets a lot of leeway at home.

I'm speaking in generalities here. In all of the games in conference I've watched this year, it seems like the order of the day is "RULE THE GAME! CALL EVERYTHING!"

[hawkchief]

:shrug:

A #2 seed is just fine for a team that lost 7 players last year.....

I am sure you would trade positions with KU right about now...

Doubtful. Mikey sounds like he likes taking it doggy-style. As a KSU fan, you get used to it. If the sheep could only provide an occasional reach-around, he'd be in hog-heaven!

[Reerun_KC]

**** off, I was just commenting on your pal that was contending KU even had a shot at #1. You were probably a 2 before tonight. Now probably a 3.

you know, everything with KU fans ALWAYS comes back to putting someone down. You can't ever have a simple conversation. And you wonder why we act the same way back to you guys after being pricks all the time.

What the hell are you talking about?

It was a simple conversation, I not sure I follow your butthurt?

[HC_Chief]

I think the Big East has been overrated in the past, but this year it's tough to argue that any of the top 3 couldn't make it to the FF. It will probably come down to whether or not they all make it to the semifinals of the Big East tournament. If someone loses early, it could go to Memphis, I guess. :shrug:

Memphis' problem is SOS. At 51, they won't get it before Duke or Michigan State.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

No, but I can't imagine he'd be much different. His face just seems angry.

I've met him. You haven't. :shrug;

[hawkchief]

**** off, I was just commenting on your pal that was contending KU even had a shot at #1. You were probably a 2 before tonight. Now probably a 3.

you know, everything with KU fans ALWAYS comes back to putting someone down. You can't ever have a simple conversation. And you wonder why we act the same way back to you guys after being pricks all the time.

meds, mikey, meds!

[KC_Connection]

**** off, I was just commenting on your pal that was contending KU even had a shot at #1. You were probably a 2 before tonight. Now probably a 3.

you know, everything with KU fans ALWAYS comes back to putting someone down. You can't ever have a simple conversation. And you wonder why we act the same way back to you guys after being pricks all the time.

If KU won out, they would have been in contention for that last #1 seed with Memphis and Michigan State.

Now they'll have to win out for #2 I think.

[Lzen]

I only have one comment after this game, and I'm sure to get flamed by the fans of the two, like I give a shit.

Morningstar and Reed are the two worst players at KU to get the amount of minutes they do since Ted Owens was the head coach. Unless someone like Releford starts taking minutes away from these guys, we're not going far, this year or next.

It's hard to give Self any shit after his success, and this is my only complaint with him.

Flame on...

I like Releford. I really do. And I can see how he will help us, especially on the offensive end. But the problem is that he still fucks up way too much.

[Bearcat]

Agreed on all counts. The shitty reffing applied to both teams. The zebras were totally schizo tonight: allow brutality under the basket then whistle off the ball ticky-tack shit.

How many offensive fouls were called tonight? Even the gawd-awful ESPN2 crew noticed it.

I pretty much skipped through the final 6 minutes of the first half... it wasn't even watchable.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Doubtful. Mikey sounds like he likes taking it doggy-style. As a KSU fan, you get used to it. If the sheep could only provide an occasional reach-around, he'd be in hog-heaven!

so was the father of your wife's fetus an MU fan?

[HC_Chief]

Doubtful. Mikey sounds like he likes taking it doggy-style. As a KSU fan, you get used to it. If the sheep could only provide an occasional reach-around, he'd be in hog-heaven!

A KSU fan once said to me: "Hay, you know why we take sheeps to tha edge of a cliff? That way thay push back better! Yeee haaawww!"

I politely smiled and walked away. Then threw up a little bit.

[Reerun_KC]

I like Releford. I really do. And I can see how he will help us, especially on the offensive end. But the problem is that he still ****s up way too much.

This...

Releford, Thomas, Appleton.... They cant seem to put their heads in the games and still are a huge liability on defense...

[KC_Connection]

I think the Big East has been overrated in the past, but this year it's tough to argue that any of the top 3 couldn't make it to the FF. It will probably come down to whether or not they all make it to the semifinals of the Big East tournament. If someone loses early, it could go to Memphis, I guess. :shrug:

I don't want to give it to Memphis. They haven't beaten ANYBODY. It's Michigan St. or Louisville.

[HC_Chief]

I like Releford. I really do. And I can see how he will help us, especially on the offensive end. But the problem is that he still ****s up way too much.

Yeah, he gets caught up watching the action instead of going for the ball.

He has potential. If he can just get aggressive on the boards & stick with his man on defense...

[KC_Connection]

I've met him. You haven't. :shrug;

you are probably lying

[HC_Chief]

I don't want to give it to Memphis. They haven't beaten ANYBODY. It's Michigan St. or Louisville.

As of today the #1s would probably be UNC, Duke, UConn, Pitt

[Reerun_KC]

As of today the #1s would probably be UNC, Duke, UConn, Pitt

Duke and UNC would be the first 1's out...

[KC_Connection]

I like Releford. I really do. And I can see how he will help us, especially on the offensive end. But the problem is that he still ****s up way too much.

Yeah....they can't play Releford too much because he makes too many stupid mistakes. Morningstar and Reed certainly make their fair share, but it's not as many as Releford. We're stuck with the two white guys at this point in the season unfortunately.

[KcMizzou]

How the hell did this happen?

I'm not trying to rub it in, I'm just honestly curious.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

you are probably lying

Nope. I've also sat right behind the bench in the first row behind his wife. She seems like a nice lady as well.

I also have met Bob Huggins, Ron Prince (bah) and Snyder. And Buck O'Neil, Len Dawson, Gale Sayers, and a few other lesser names.

[Lzen]

**** off, I was just commenting on your pal that was contending KU even had a shot at #1. You were probably a 2 before tonight. Now probably a 3.

you know, everything with KU fans ALWAYS comes back to putting someone down. You can't ever have a simple conversation. And you wonder why we act the same way back to you guys after being pricks all the time.

Now see I took his post completely differently. I think you have a bit of Napoleon syndrome going on here.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

How the hell did this happen?

I'm not trying to rub it in, I'm just honestly curious.

Massa Selfs strategic T didn't work. THAT'S how.

[hawkchief]

This...

Releford, Thomas, Appleton.... They cant seem to put their heads in the games and still are a huge liability on defense...

Overall, Brady and Tyrel have been pretty big for us all year. Both have hit key 3's throughout the season that probably meant 3 or 4 more wins than without them. Granted their D isn't the greatest, but their ability to drain 3's has been huge.

Brady will come out of his slump at the right time and I still think he will be important to any run we might have. IMO, the real key is to get better play out of Mario and the twins. If all 3 continue to play mediocre to poorly, we won't last very long.

[KC_Connection]

Nope. I've also sat right behind the bench in the first row behind his wife. She seems like a nice lady as well.

I also have met Bob Huggins, Ron Prince (bah) and Snyder. And Buck O'Neil, Len Dawson, Gale Sayers, and a few other lesser names.

LIES

[HC_Chief]

How the hell did this happen?

I'm not trying to rub it in, I'm just honestly curious.

KU played like crap, TT hit every g'damned three they threw up. It was ridiculous.... they were on fire from the three point line, guarded or open.

KU was terrible in all phases.

[KC_Connection]

How the hell did this happen?

I'm not trying to rub it in, I'm just honestly curious.

I cheered for your damn MU team, today.

[KcMizzou]

KU played like crap, TT hit every g'damned three they threw up. It was ridiculous.... they were on fire from the three point line, guarded or open.

KU was terrible in all phases.Sounds a lot like when Mizzou got drilled at KSU.

[ArrowheadHawk]

How the hell did this happen?

I'm not trying to rub it in, I'm just honestly curious.
KU's two best players played like shit. TT hit 16 3's.

[KC_Connection]

Overall, Brady and Tyrel have been pretty big for us all year. Both have hit key 3's throughout the season that probably meant 3 or 4 more wins than without them. Granted their D isn't the greatest, but their ability to drain 3's has been huge.

Brady will come out of his slump at the right time and I still think he will be important to any run we might have. IMO, the real key is to get better play out of Mario and the twins. If all 3 continue to play mediocre to poorly, we won't last very long.

Mario has been fucking awful for like 3 weeks now. The Morris brothers were playing well before today, they'll be alright (although they'll continue making their dumbass mistakes).

[KC_Connection]

Sounds a lot like when Mizzou got drilled at KSU.

Collins shot 3 for 20 or some shit.

[HC_Chief]

Sounds a lot like when Mizzou got drilled at KSU.

Let's put it this way, KU played like MU played in the first 10 minutes at Allen Field House.

We made a little run in the second half to get it to 1, then fell apart again. It was atrocious. They left their brains on the bus.

[hawkchief]

I cheered for your damn MU team, today.

Me too. Might have been the first time in my life (and likely the last). Way to go tigs!

[mikeyis4dcats.]

LIES

Yeah, I'll also lie and say I met Tim Grunhard. He's worthy of lying about.

I have a signed Snyder helmet in my office. I have a nice signed Buck O'Neill bat in my home office, and somewhere I've got some autographs from Lenny and Gayle.


I'm involved in a civic group that holds events with sports celebs, that's where I met most. Not a big conspiracy. If you look up my recent posts you'll even see me asking opinions a while back on a possible speaker for our event this year. Last year Self was supposed to speak but then he decided to play in some Canadian tourney pre-season and cancelled.

[HC_Chief]

Me too. Might have been the first time in my life (and likely the last). Way to go tigs!

Still can't believe that game wasn't nationally televised. FFS, that's two top 15 teams playing on senior night, with conference implications and one team playing for a possible #1.

[Buehler445]

I cheered for your damn MU team, today.

And you were blaming this shit on ME???!!! :D

[Tiger's Fan]

I like Releford. I really do. And I can see how he will help us, especially on the offensive end. But the problem is that he still ****s up way too much.

He does do that. But it's hard to get any better playing 5 mins a night. And Bill has a tendency to pull him after just one of those fuckups.

[Reerun_KC]

Mario has been ****ing awful for like 3 weeks now. The Morris brothers were playing well before today, they'll be alright (although they'll continue making their dumbass mistakes).

This team is still very young and very talented... Just growing pains, we have been there before and will probably be there in 2012 or 2013 after another couple of Final Fours and a NC...

[hawkchief]

Still can't believe that game wasn't nationally televised. FFS, that's two top 15 teams playing on senior night, with conference implications and one team playing for a possible #1.

I guess we should be thankful our game was the one on National TV, and not the Mizzou-Okie game. Sherron and Cole might have convinced any scouts out there that they need another year in Lawrence! Silver lining, perhaps?

[Bearcat]

Still can't believe that game wasn't nationally televised. FFS, that's two top 15 teams playing on senior night, with conference implications and one team playing for a possible #1.

Plus, Blake Griffin!

OH -- and BONUS -- he was playing this time! I'm surprised they didn't interview Blake Griffin's parents from Columbia while split-screening the Kansas/Tech game.

[Reerun_KC]

And you were blaming this shit on ME???!!! :D

Yep! :harumph: Suck it corn boy!

[Bearcat]

I guess we should be thankful our game was the one on National TV, and not the Mizzou-Okie game. Sherron and Cole might have convinced any scouts out there that they need another year in Lawrence! Silver lining, perhaps?

:thumb:

[HC_Chief]

Plus, Blake Griffin!

OH -- and BONUS -- he was playing this time! I'm surprised they didn't interview Blake Griffin's parents from Columbia while split-screening the Kansas/Tech game.

ROFL
rep

[Buehler445]

Plus, Blake Griffin!

OH -- and BONUS -- he was playing this time! I'm surprised they didn't interview Blake Griffin's parents from Columbia while split-screening the Kansas/Tech game.

ROFL You still hungover from the KU/OU game? Did they have to pump your stomach?

[HC_Chief]

I guess we should be thankful our game was the one on National TV, and not the Mizzou-Okie game. Sherron and Cole might have convinced any scouts out there that they need another year in Lawrence! Silver lining, perhaps?

Nice, using that PMA!
Positive rep for a positive attitude! :thumb:

[KC_Connection]

Anyway, yeah KU clinched a #1 seed tonight in the Big 12 tournament. We'll be playing the winner of Nebraska and Baylor. Who would you rather play?

[Bearcat]

ROFL You still hungover from the KU/OU game? Did they have to pump your stomach?

I watched almost all the MU/OU game tonight, and I think I would have been better off drinking tonight than last week. They didn't have a Griffin-cam while he was on or off the court... sure, they mentioned his name quite a bit since he was, you know, actually playing... but he might have actually gotten less coverage tonight than when he was in a suit. Actually, I'm quite sure of it.

[Reerun_KC]

I want another shot at TT!!!!

[KC_Connection]

I guess we should be thankful our game was the one on National TV, and not the Mizzou-Okie game. Sherron and Cole might have convinced any scouts out there that they need another year in Lawrence! Silver lining, perhaps?

Not if they dominate in the NCAA tournament (which I think we're all hoping they will).

[Bearcat]

Anyway, yeah KU clinched a #1 seed tonight in the Big 12 tournament. We'll be playing the winner of Nebraska and Baylor. Who would you rather play?

Baylor. Even though Nebraska has kind of fallen apart lately, they're a pain in the ass. Baylor has lost several games by 15+... Outside of @Lawrence and @Columbia, Nebraska has been in every game they've played.

[KC_Connection]

Baylor. Even though Nebraska has kind of fallen apart lately, they're a pain in the ass. Baylor has lost several games by 15+... Outside of @Lawrence and @Columbia, Nebraska has been in every game they've played.

Yeah, I also think Baylor would be easier. But I still think that Baylor has some of that potential they showed last year. It may still be deep down somewhere. They might bring it out for the tournament, but that's probably unlikely.

[Bearcat]

Baylor. Even though Nebraska has kind of fallen apart lately, they're a pain in the ass. Baylor has lost several games by 15+... Outside of @Lawrence and @Columbia, Nebraska has been in every game they've played.

Hmm... after scrolling through some halftime scores, Baylor has been in most of their games, too. I still think Nebraska is a bigger pain though.

[POND_OF_RED]

Anyway, yeah KU clinched a #1 seed tonight in the Big 12 tournament. We'll be playing the winner of Nebraska and Baylor. Who would you rather play?

How have you clinched the #1 seed? I always thought they looked at Overall record to break ties after head to head.

[KC_Connection]

How have you clinched the #1 seed? I always thought they looked at Overall record to break ties after head to head.

No, it comes down to a comparison of records in the division. Which KU has. Look it up on google, that's where I found the tie breaking procedure.

At least it's something for KU fans on this bad night.

[smittysbar]

KU lost me some bucks tonight..........So did MU though

[smittysbar]

Right now they a #1, but I'm not sure they have clinched.

[POND_OF_RED]

No, it comes down to a comparison of records in the division. Which KU has. Look it up on google, that's where I found the tie breaking procedure.

At least it's something for KU fans on this bad night.

Wow. The Big 12 has the worst tie breaking systems of all the conferences.

[Silock]

Wow. The Big 12 has the worst tie breaking systems of all the conferences.

Which will be irrelevant if we beat Texas.

[KC_Connection]

Wow. The Big 12 has the worst tie breaking systems of all the conferences.
Head-to-head and then going to divisional record is a bad tiebreaker? Why?

[KC_Connection]

Right now they a #1, but I'm not sure they have clinched.

They've clinched. The worst case scenario for KU right now is a tie with MU and OU, and KU will come out ahead of them in that tiebreaker no matter what.

[teedubya]

wow, I'm glad I missed this game. I happened to miss last year's loss at Oklahoma State. That sort of woke KU up last year, perhaps this will do the same. And shock them into playing well to the Elite 8?

they'd better wake the fuck up though...

[POND_OF_RED]

Head-to-head and then going to divisional record is a bad tiebreaker? Why?

The division record means absolutely nothing unless there happens to be a tie, while the overall record says how your team did all season. Both sports had 3 way tie possibilities with the weirdest tie breaking scenarios.

[Mr. Plow]

Still can't believe that game wasn't nationally televised. FFS, that's two top 15 teams playing on senior night, with conference implications and one team playing for a possible #1.


If it had been Duke/UNC you would have heard about it for a month prior and they would have 7 channels dedicated to showing the game from every angle.

[Al Bundy]

If it had been Duke/UNC you would have heard about it for a month prior and they would have 7 channels dedicated to showing the game from every angle.

Ding ding ding we have a winner.

[KC_Connection]

The division record means absolutely nothing unless there happens to be a tie, while the overall record says how your team did all season. Both sports had 3 way tie possibilities with the weirdest tie breaking scenarios.
This doesn't make any sense at all. What if one of the teams had a horrible non-conference schedule and just beat up on those guys, making their overall record inflated?

[Pants]

The division record means absolutely nothing unless there happens to be a tie, while the overall record says how your team did all season. Both sports had 3 way tie possibilities with the weirdest tie breaking scenarios.
:spock:

[Bearcat]

wow, I'm glad I missed this game. I happened to miss last year's loss at Oklahoma State. That sort of woke KU up last year, perhaps this will do the same. And shock them into playing well to the Elite 8?

they'd better wake the **** up though...

Stop missing games, asshole!


:D

[sedated]

I don't put a ton of stock in the TT loss. After huge wins vs OU and MU, looking ahead to TX, on the road, on senior night, when some white boy absolutely cannot miss from 3.

Could have been the best thing to happen to KU, especially after hearing about Sherron's "celebrating in the opponent's locker room" comment.

[Mr. Krab]

The game might of been different if it hadn't taken 15 minutes and 20 point deficit before Bill Self switched to a zone.

[CoMoChief]

The division record means absolutely nothing unless there happens to be a tie, while the overall record says how your team did all season. Both sports had 3 way tie possibilities with the weirdest tie breaking scenarios.

WTF? Seriously?

[HC_Chief]

The game might of been different if it hadn't taken 15 minutes and 20 point deficit before Bill Self switched to a zone.

When we switched back to man-to-man I was shocked. As soon as we went mtm, they extended the lead. When we went zone, they struggled. So why in the &^&*@ did we switch from a D that was working?

On offense it just wasn't our night. Missed point-blank shots, Collins and Aldrich were terrible.... just an ugly, ugly game all around.

[Lzen]

He does do that. But it's hard to get any better playing 5 mins a night. And Bill has a tendency to pull him after just one of those ****ups.

I would guess that he does that in practice, too. Only reason I can think of that he doesn't get more time.

[Lzen]

I don't put a ton of stock in the TT loss. After huge wins vs OU and MU, looking ahead to TX, on the road, on senior night, when some white boy absolutely cannot miss from 3.

Could have been the best thing to happen to KU, especially after hearing about Sherron's "celebrating in the opponent's locker room" comment.

What comments?

The division record means absolutely nothing unless there happens to be a tie, while the overall record says how your team did all season. Both sports had 3 way tie possibilities with the weirdest tie breaking scenarios.

Why does this not make sense? Teams player every other team in their division twice. Makes sense to me. And it is very similar to the way other leagues (professional or otherwise) do it.

[HC_Chief]

Why does this not make sense? Teams player every other team in their division twice. Makes sense to me. And it is very similar to the way other leagues (professional or otherwise) do it.

Twice in region, once out of region (even though they don't recognize the regions in BBall)

[sedated]

What comments?

he said something like It'll be great to celebrate winning the Big 12 in someone else's locker room

[sedated]

The division record means absolutely nothing unless there happens to be a tie, while the overall record says how your team did all season. Both sports had 3 way tie possibilities with the weirdest tie breaking scenarios.

yeah, because no one ever plays a soft non-conference schedule. :rolleyes:

[Lzen]

I found this on another bb.

Before practice Monday, Collins told reporters: “It’s a great feeling to clinch on the road. You get to celebrate in somebody else’s locker room. The bus ride or flight home ... everybody is talking, and it’s fun. It’d be nice to win it on the road.”

That doesn't sound bad at all.

[Lzen]

BTW, I believe the feeling to which he was referring was from last year when they clinched at Texas A&M.

[buddha]

KU looked like crap tonight, and won't get everybody healthy by the time they get to Austin. It's nice that you KU fans have gotten so much emotional mileage out of SPLITTING with Missouri...? We'll see who has the most left in the tank come tournament time.

[Reerun_KC]

I found this on another bb.



That doesn't sound bad at all.


Then maybe he might want to show up?

[Reerun_KC]

KU looked like crap tonight, and won't get everybody healthy by the time they get to Austin. It's nice that you KU fans have gotten so much emotional mileage out of SPLITTING with Missouri...? We'll see who has the most left in the tank come tournament time.

WTF? Do you even follow college basketball?

Maybe research alittle before you run your cock holster...

[POND_OF_RED]

I'm not complaining about the tie breaker I was simply stating it was weird. Most conferences go to overall record after head to head for tie breakers. It's a fair way to do it don't get me wrong, I just would have figured the overall record would have meant more in a tie breaker than division record. A 2 seed in the Big 12 tournament will work out just fine. I think the NCAA tournament will use the overall record though so that's good. Maybe we can end up in KC.

[Reerun_KC]

I'm not complaining about the tie breaker I was simply stating it was weird. Most conferences go to overall record after head to head for tie breakers. It's a fair way to do it don't get me wrong, I just would have figured the overall record would have meant more in a tie breaker than division record. A 2 seed in the Big 12 tournament will work out just fine. I think the NCAA tournament will use the overall record though so that's good. Maybe we can end up in KC.

Its okay slaver, dont let them get to you... IF KU handles its business on Saturday the whole conversation is moot... I can see both KU and the slavers ending up in KC... But who knows.. IF KU goes deep into the Big 12 or even wins it, they will be a #2, not bad for a team that is rebuilding after our NC last year... I can see the slavers getting a 2-3 seed, which would be an awesome season for them... Can Anderson keep up the recruiting at slaverville? The Paige was a rocking last night... Will be interesting to see how he rebuilds that team next year...

MA is a good coach... Glad he is in the Big 12, even if it is with the slavers...

[Lzen]

KU looked like crap tonight, and won't get everybody healthy by the time they get to Austin. It's nice that you KU fans have gotten so much emotional mileage out of SPLITTING with Missouri...? We'll see who has the most left in the tank come tournament time.

Good Lord. You are dumb. KU plays Texas at Allen Fieldhouse on Saturday.
And a late friendly bounce on a wild shot type of win is comparable to a 90-65 blowout in your mind? ROFL

Oh yeah, in case you forgot, KU knows how to play in the tournament. They have won the last 3 or 4 Big 12 tournaments and won the NCAA title last year. At least if you're gonna throw out smack, don't bring weak stuff. :shake:

[POND_OF_RED]

Oh yeah, in case you forgot, KU knows how to play in the tournament. They have won the last 3 or 4 Big 12 tournaments and won the NCAA title last year. At least if you're gonna throw out smack, don't bring weak stuff. :shake:

How soon we all forget the Killer B's. :evil: :Poke:

[Reerun_KC]

Good Lord. You are dumb. KU plays Texas at Allen Fieldhouse on Saturday.
And a late friendly bounce on a wild shot type of win is comparable to a 90-65 blowout in your mind? ROFL

Oh yeah, in case you forgot, KU knows how to play in the tournament. They have won the last 3 or 4 Big 12 tournaments and won the NCAA title last year. At least if you're gonna throw out smack, don't bring weak stuff. :shake:

And dont forget 5 conference championships in a row...


He was just reaching, trying, and utimately EPIC Failed...

[Reerun_KC]

How soon we all forget the Killer B's. :evil: :Poke:

How soon you forget your tradition since Feb 2009....

How soon you forget who cut down the nets in 2008....

[hawkchief]

How soon we all forget the Killer B's. :evil: :Poke:

Spoken like a fan of a carcas of a team that hasn't ever lived. You have to be alive to be killed, doofus. Try making a Final Four sometime in your life, it's really fun.

[Reerun_KC]

How soon we all forget the Killer B's. :evil: :Poke:

How soon you forget Quin Snyder.... :thumb:

[FishingRod]

That was just Awful but this just goes to show you can't watch one game and get the measure of a team. If you only look at the last week. Apparently TT should beat OU by 700 points. After all they whipped KU, KU whipped MU by 25 and then MU put a hurt on OU. If you look at the body or work over the year KU, MU and OU are pretty close with everyone else in the conference sucking hind-tit. If KU beats Tex on Sunday there is no need to discuss tie-breakers. If they don't it is pretty muddy but, at worst they would be Champ or co-champ of the big 12 for 5 -years straight. Not bad for a team that Collins was the only returning player that had significant playing time last year.

[Frazod]

Its okay slaver, dont let them get to you... IF KU handles its business on Saturday the whole conversation is moot... I can see both KU and the slavers ending up in KC... But who knows.. IF KU goes deep into the Big 12 or even wins it, they will be a #2, not bad for a team that is rebuilding after our NC last year... I can see the slavers getting a 2-3 seed, which would be an awesome season for them... Can Anderson keep up the recruiting at slaverville? The Paige was a rocking last night... Will be interesting to see how he rebuilds that team next year...

MA is a good coach... Glad he is in the Big 12, even if it is with the slavers...

Since by definition, a "jayhawk" is a murderer and a thief, don't you think the "slaver" smack is a little on the silly side? :spock:

[Reerun_KC]

How soon we all forget the Killer B's. :evil: :Poke:

Those are the things that define a tradition of a basketball team... The lowest of lows, followed by the highest of highs...

Yeah we will never forget Bill and the two B's. But we will continue to develop and win NC's in the future, it was a shakey start, but a wonderful ride with that group.

This group could very well do the same thing, who knows, but we know that Self can and will build elite 8 teams and beyond. It doesnt suck to be a KU fan.

[Pants]

don't you think the "slaver" smack is a little on the silly side? :spock:

It is what it is. Slaver.

[Reerun_KC]

Since by definition, a "jayhawk" is a murderer and a thief, don't you think the "slaver" smack is a little on the silly side? :spock:

He was starting with the Beaker stuff, so I just threw a little friendly smack back...


Its all good, SLAVER!

[KC_Connection]

KU looked like crap tonight, and won't get everybody healthy by the time they get to Austin. It's nice that you KU fans have gotten so much emotional mileage out of SPLITTING with Missouri...? We'll see who has the most left in the tank come tournament time.

lol, wat?

[Frazod]

It is what it is. Slaver.

Okay, then, you thieving backshooter. :thumb:

[Pants]

Okay, then, you thieving backshooter. :thumb:

Times were rough, people on both sides did atrocious things. Only one side comprised of slavers.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection
As I said, it was my fault for expecting too much out of this place. The other message boards I post on are generally of higher intelligence.

I noticed you have several posts in this game thread. Was the higher intelligence board having a meeting at the Stull cemetary?

[Bearcat]

Yeah we will never forget Bill and the two B's.

The only reason I'll never forget is that idiots who normally don't have a team to root for in March think it's some huge black eye to the program, so they bring it up every year.

Just like this year.... the Jayhawks lose 6 of their top 7 scorers from a year ago, yet if they get a 2 or 3 seed and lose in the first weekend, someone will put another notch in their bedpost, and we'll hear about it for the next 10 years. Whatever gets them home, I guess. :shrug:

[sedated]

It's nice that you KU fans have gotten so much emotional mileage out of SPLITTING with Missouri...?

wtf?

[Frazod]

Times were rough, people on both sides did atrocious things. Only one side comprised of slavers.

Yes, everybody in Missouri was filthy rich, lived in a big white house and owned 100 slaves. Fucktard. :shake:

[Pants]

Yes, everybody in Missouri was filthy rich, lived in a big white house and owned 100 slaves. ****tard. :shake:

Hey, man, don't get your panties in a bunch. I never said that. You know damn well what I meant and you know it's true. Slaver.

[Frazod]

Hey, man, don't get your panties in a bunch. I never said that. You know damn well what I meant and you know it's true. Slaver.

Picket any veteran's funerals lately? As long as we're throwing out retarded generalizations, let's use one that isn't 140 years old, Fred.

[WilliamTheIrish]

Times were rough, people on both sides did atrocious things. Only one side comprised of slavers.

Yes, there were no slave owners in Kansas. Ever. We're squeaky clean.

[KC_Connection]

I noticed you have several posts in this game thread. Was the higher intelligence board having a meeting at the Stull cemetary?
you know it

[POND_OF_RED]

How soon you forget Quin Snyder.... :thumb:

I think I briefly remember the name. Looked something like this:
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f37/jvaletta/tyrone.jpg

[Bearcat]

I noticed you have several posts in this game thread. Was the higher intelligence board having a meeting at the Stull cemetary?

I wish he would get back to me on the name of those boards.

Quickly.


:shake:

[KC_Connection]

I wish he would get back to me on the name of those boards.
Quickly.
:shake:

For serious? A wide variety of baseball forums that you wouldn't be aware of, nor care about.

[Bearcat]

For serious? A wide variety of baseball forums that you wouldn't be aware of, nor care about.

Today's topics have included the "strange" B12 tie breaking system, the emotional mileage of splitting with Missouri, the 'B' teams, and slavery.... not to say I've made an effort to contribute anything significant, because things like logic and reason are usually ignored once the thread goes to hell.... but yeah, if any of those 'better' boards have decent CBB forums...

[KC_Connection]

Today's topics have included the "strange" B12 tie breaking system, the emotional mileage of splitting with Missouri, the 'B' teams, and slavery.... not to say I've made an effort to contribute anything significant, because things like logic and reason are usually ignored once the thread goes to hell.... but yeah, if any of those 'better' boards have decent CBB forums...

They don't. But they do know who Bill James is, which was the original issue anyway. Again, it was my fault for assuming this particular KU grad was more well known than he is. I post in very different places on the web, and this is sometimes the result of it.

[WilliamTheIrish]

They don't. But they do know who Bill James is, which was the original issue anyway. Again, it was my fault for assuming this particular KU grad was more well known than he is. I post in very different places on the web, and this is sometimes the result of it.


Where would you get the idea that I don't know who Bill James is? I still have my 1980 Baseball Abstract.

Still I'm curious why your skittish to reveal your the boards from "out there".