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Dartgod
03-05-2009, 08:02 AM
If MU and OU win and KU loses to Texas, all three teams will have 13-3 conference records. What is the method used to break the tie?

Third Eye
03-05-2009, 08:05 AM
No tiebreaker. Co-champs. Not sure how tournament seeding is done though.

Skip Towne
03-05-2009, 08:18 AM
They give the trophy to the Whorns and we go fuck ourselves. At least that's what happened last time.

DaWolf
03-05-2009, 08:19 AM
No tiebreaker. Co-champs. Not sure how tournament seeding is done though.

I don't know exactly what it is, probably record against your particular division, IE MU has more north losses than KU, and KU beat OU head to head. So KU will get the No 1 seed in the tourney no matter what, according to the papers. MU probably No 2 seed...

CoMoChief
03-05-2009, 08:21 AM
OU won't recieve anything because both MU and KU have tiebreakers over them since they both beat OU.

Unless the fact that MU and KU play eachother twice and KU/MU and OU only play eachother once has anything to do with it.

Old Dog
03-05-2009, 08:24 AM
From the BigXII site:



Seeding for the Championship will be based upon regular-season competition. The winner of the postseason basketball championship shall be declared the Big 12 automatic qualifier to the NCAA Championship. A team ineligible under NCAA or Big 12 rules for postseason competition shall not compete in the championship.
The four teams with the best records (based upon winning percentage) in 16 Conference games shall earn first-round byes. After the four teams have been awarded first-round byes and ranked as the No. 1 through No. 4 seeds, all remaining teams will be ranked in order No. 5 through No. 12 for seeding in the championship.

Tiebreakers - The first criteria in the breaking of ties in the standings shall be head-to-head competition of tied teams. The following procedure will be used to establish the championship seeds if ties exist. (For tiebreaking procedures teams will be grouped in two divisions based upon established guidelines. Colorado, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri and Nebraska are in one division and Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech are in the other division.)


(a) If two teams are tied and they are from different divisions, the winner of the game between the two tied teams shall be the higher seed.
(b) If two teams are tied and they are from the same division, the team with an advantage in head-to-head competition shall be the higher seed.
(c) If two teams remain tied, there will be a comparison of overall record against division teams only (10 divisional games).
(d) If two teams remain tied, there will be a comparison of record against the highest ranked team(s) (based upon Conference winning percentage) in the division and proceeding through in order of divisional record.
(e) If two teams remain tied, there will be a *comparison of record against the highest ranked team(s) (based upon Conference winning percentage) in the opposite division and proceeding through in order of divisional record.
(f) If two teams remain tied, the higher seed will be chosen by draw.
(g) If three or more teams are tied, ties among divisional opponents will be broken first by using steps (b) through (f) and the head-to-head results will be used to break ties between non-divisional teams. When three or more teams from the same division are tied step (b) will consist of a mini- round robin among the tied teams. At any point during the process of breaking ties among three or more teams that the number of tied teams are reduced to two, head-to-head competition would be used as the primary tie-breaker, followed-by steps (c) through (f).



Note: When comparing against the "highest ranked team(s)" in either division, the comparison will be based upon how tied teams did against all teams in a given placement, rather than a team that wins a tiebreaker at another position. For example, if two teams are tied for fifth and two teams are tied for first, the head-to-head comparison would be how the fifth place teams did against the first place teams combined, and vice-versa.

Draw - In the event tiebreaking procedures are unsuccessful and a draw is necessary in determining seeding, the following procedure will be used:

(a) The drawing will be conducted in public or with media attendance
(b) Institutions involved in the drawing have the right to have a local representative in attendance at the drawing
(c) A single slip of paper with names representing each of the tied institutions will be placed into a container and will be drawn in order of seeding from highest (#1) to lowest (#12)

Saulbadguy
03-05-2009, 08:31 AM
http://www.notnothing.net/bball/b12mbb.php

Use this for all scenarios.

There is no scenario where KU would not receive the 1 seed.

Toto
03-05-2009, 08:32 AM
I don't know exactly what it is, probably record against your particular division, IE MU has more north losses than KU, and KU beat OU head to head. So KU will get the No 1 seed in the tourney no matter what, according to the papers. MU probably No 2 seed...

Three way tie = 3 way tri-champs. Then KU and MU beat OU head to head. OU is #3 seed in Big 12 tournament. Then KU and MU split. So look at the Northern division. KU had only 1 loss MU had 3. KU gets the 1 seed and MU gets the 2 seed.

Chiefs Pantalones
03-05-2009, 08:32 AM
Tiebreaker should go to the team that last won the National Championship...oh...that's us. Rock Chalk!

Dartgod
03-05-2009, 08:34 AM
Cool. Thanks for the info.

Old Dog
03-05-2009, 08:34 AM
http://www.notnothing.net/bball/b12mbb.php

Use this for all scenarios.

There is no scenario where KU would not receive the 1 seed.

Cool link Saul