View Full Version : Football NCAA gives Florida State 4 years' probation

03-07-2009, 02:28 AM
TALLAHASSEE, Fla. (AP) - Florida State may have to forfeit some of coach Bobby Bowden's 382 wins and will be on probation for the next four years as part of its punishment for a widespread academic cheating scandal.

The Seminoles will have to give up two scholarships this recruiting season and one the following year. Other sports will lose scholarships and have victories - including three NCAA national championships in track and field - threatened.

The NCAA said 61 Florida State athletes cheated on an online test from the fall of 2006 through summer 2007 or received improper help from staffers who provided them with answers to the exam and typed papers for them.

The NCAA said the school must vacate all wins in contests in which athletes involved in the cheating participated. That could involve up to 14 football victories.

Florida State President T.K. Wetherell said the university would consider appealing any efforts to strip it of wins or titles.

"We did not allow anyone who we knew was ineligible to compete," Wetherell said in a statement from the school. "Our position throughout the inquiry was that as soon as we knew of a problem, they didn't play."

The 79-year-old Bowden, who has often stated he wanted to reach 400 wins before calling it a career, was not available to comment on the NCAA report.

The men's basketball program will lose one scholarship for two years and the women's program will be down two for two years. Other programs were hit with fractional reductions.

The cheating took place in football, baseball, softball, men's and women's basketball, men's and women's swimming, men's and women's track and field and men's golf.

The committee called the Florida State case "extremely serious" because of the large number of athletes involved, and cited unethical conduct by three former staff members and a failure to monitor by the university.

The cheating occurred mainly through online testing for a single music history course in the fall of 2006 and the spring and summer semesters of 2007. It included staffers helping students on the test and, in one case, asking one athlete to take it for another.

Florida State played in the 2007 Music City Bowl without two dozen players, including several starters. The Seminoles were defeated by Kentucky. Many of the same athletes were held out of the first three games last fall as part of their punishment.

Dennis Thomas, commissioner of the Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference, said the infractions committee didn't consider the venerable Florida State coach when contemplating penalties.

"The committee does not get into whether or not you have a famous athlete or a famous coach or if a record is involved," Thomas said. "The committee adjudicates the facts."

Thomas said the school would decide which athletes were ineligible in which games, in effect determining what games it might have to forfeit.

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03-07-2009, 02:30 AM
What is it with the Florida St.?
Guess ole Bobby will ride off into the sunset now.

03-07-2009, 03:33 AM
Mods, you can dump this thread. Didn't see the other one.

03-07-2009, 03:36 AM
This was early afternoon, got to be a repos...............

03-07-2009, 05:09 AM
One of my good friends brothers had classes with Snoop Minnis after DV drafted him and shared some stories with me about how dumb that guy was yet manged to survive at that school.

Future scientists and engineers have to leave school because they can't afford the costs of tuition and these guys are pushed through the system so they can play a sport for entertainment.

Good for the NCAA for stepping up 20+ years too late. How noble of them.

03-07-2009, 05:25 AM
Aw hell....

03-07-2009, 05:39 AM

03-07-2009, 05:57 AM