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Reaper16
03-07-2009, 03:03 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/03/07/k_nick_lowery_to_be_inducted_into_chiefs_hall_of_fame/

Nick the Kick, mothertruckers!

DaFace
03-07-2009, 03:08 PM
Cool.

Crush
03-07-2009, 03:11 PM
:thumb:

Fruit Ninja
03-07-2009, 03:12 PM
Nice, i am all for this. Nick was awesome.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 03:15 PM
http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/2009/03/07/k_nick_lowery_to_be_inducted_into_chiefs_hall_of_fame/

Nick the Kick, mothertruckers!

Word. Nick was awesome. He pimps a mean suit too.

Guru
03-07-2009, 03:18 PM
Word. Nick was awesome. He pimps a mean suit too.And damn John Alt for making him miss one of the most important FGs in his career. I think it was Alt that held anyway.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 03:20 PM
And damn John Alt for making him miss one of the most important FGs in his career. I think it was Alt that held anyway.

Was Alt Carl's "mormon explosion"?

ChiefButthurt
03-07-2009, 03:22 PM
I know you guys didn't know his secret.....air flow. He would pull on the side of his nose with his index finger and thumb to open up the airway while lining up for the kick. He was a breathing mofo. I use the same tactic for every thing I do.....yep.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 03:24 PM
I know you guys didn't know his secret.....air flow. He would pull on the side of his nose with his index finger and thumb to open up the airway while lining up for the kick. He was a breathing mofo. I use the same tactic for every thing I do.....yep.

WTF???? ROFL Rep!

Guru
03-07-2009, 03:26 PM
Was Alt Carl's "mormon explosion"?Nah, that was John Tait.

I know you guys didn't know his secret.....air flow. He would pull on the side of his nose with his index finger and thumb to open up the airway while lining up for the kick. He was a breathing mofo. I use the same tactic for every thing I do.....yep.

His pre-kick routine was hilarious to watch.

bishop_74
03-07-2009, 03:28 PM
It's been a while, but wasn't this the same FG kicker that was standing up smiling and waving in the audience at one of the games after his replacement missed a FG, or was that just crap?

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 03:33 PM
"Fuck Family Night".

StcChief
03-07-2009, 03:41 PM
about freakin' time. what were they waiting for? Damn it Carl.

Deberg_1990
03-07-2009, 03:43 PM
And damn John Alt for making him miss one of the most important FGs in his career. I think it was Alt that held anyway.

It was all Carls fault.




I think it was Dave Szott.


Congrats to Nick!

FAX
03-07-2009, 03:52 PM
A very deserving Chief.

FAX

KChiefs1
03-07-2009, 03:56 PM
It was all Carls fault.




I think it was Dave Szott.


Congrats to Nick!

It was Szott.

Congrats Nick!:clap:

Guru
03-07-2009, 03:59 PM
It was all Carls fault.




I think it was Dave Szott.


Congrats to Nick!

It was Szott.

Congrats Nick!:clap:Thats right. It was Szott. I was so damn mad at him for that. Nick ended up missing by a couple yards after the penalty.

whoman69
03-07-2009, 04:40 PM
I know that kickers don't make it into Canton often, but he is deserving. Are you listening Canton?

Herzig
03-07-2009, 05:01 PM
He hit on my Aunt one time. She turned him down.

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 05:04 PM
Guru, it was Szott who was called for holding.

I guess I'm against the grain on this one.

I think Nick Lowery is the most over-rated Chiefs player ever.

He never "won" a football game for the Chiefs and in countless tries, he came up empty handed under pressure (Miami playoffs, Cleveland 1989, etc.).

It's really tough to kick a 51 yard field goal when you're team is down by 42 points. :rolleyes:

Plus, Nick personally?

You couldn't find a nicer scumbag.

Herzig
03-07-2009, 05:11 PM
.

He never "won" a football game for the Chiefs and in countless tries, he came up empty handed under pressure (Miami playoffs, Cleveland 1989, etc.).

You couldn't find a nicer scumbag.

Uh...yeah...he kinda did. In the 1993 playoff season vs. Pittsburgh, he made a kick to win in OT. I was there.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 06:33 PM
Guru, it was Szott who was called for holding.

I guess I'm against the grain on this one.

I think Nick Lowery is the most over-rated Chiefs player ever.

He never "won" a football game for the Chiefs and in countless tries, he came up empty handed under pressure (Miami playoffs, Cleveland 1989, etc.).

It's really tough to kick a 51 yard field goal when you're team is down by 42 points. :rolleyes:

Plus, Nick personally?

You couldn't find a nicer scumbag.

:eek::eek::eek:ROFL

Dane, your brutal honesty makes my testes tingle! Rep!

Sam Hall
03-07-2009, 06:37 PM
I was a little kid when he left KC and it made me cry.

milkman
03-07-2009, 06:39 PM
Uh...yeah...he kinda did. In the 1993 playoff season vs. Pittsburgh, he made a kick to win in OT. I was there.

What he's saying, though, has merit.

For the most part, Lowery missed on big kicks far more often than he made them.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 06:55 PM
What he's saying, though, has merit.

For the most part, Lowery missed on big kicks far more often than he made them.

I was praising Lowery when I should have been praising Aguiar; cocaine is a hell of a drug!

Late 90's - Early Millennium = Very hazy time for DCS.

http://www.aguiarkicking.com/

Ari Chi3fs
03-07-2009, 07:12 PM
if KKKarl hadn't cut him and signed Elliot, we would have won a playoff game in Jan 96.

Herzig
03-07-2009, 07:58 PM
if KKKarl hadn't cut him and signed Elliot, we would have won a playoff game in Jan 96.

Yep.:banghead:

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 08:19 PM
if KKKarl hadn't cut him and signed Elliot, we would have won a playoff game in Jan 96.

Um, Karl didn't cut him. His contract was up.

The Chiefs offered $100k more than the Jets.

Nick the Dick bolted for NYC.

Marty was never a fan.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 08:21 PM
Um, Karl didn't cut him. His contract was up.

The Chiefs offered $100k more than the Jet.

Nick the Dick bolted for NYC.

Marty was never a fan.

Louie would'a nailed that fucking kick, and then some!

Deberg_1990
03-07-2009, 08:41 PM
Dane is right somewhat.

Nick was a really awesome kicker for alot of bad Chiefs teams.

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 08:55 PM
I know that kickers don't make it into Canton often, but he is deserving. Are you listening Canton?

LMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAOLMAO

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 08:56 PM
Thats right. It was Szott. I was so damn mad at him for that. Nick ended up missing by a couple yards after the penalty.

It was a 32 yarder before the penalty.

So Nick the fucking "most accurate kicker" missed a 42 yard field goal with the game on the line.

He's a fucking LOSER. Alway was. Always has been. Always will be.

:loser:

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 08:57 PM
Dane is right somewhat.

Nick was a really awesome kicker for alot of bad Chiefs teams.

It's easy to hit from 50 yards when there's no pressure to win the game.

Guru
03-07-2009, 08:57 PM
It was a 32 yarder before the penalty.

So Nick the ****ing "most accurate kicker" missed a 42 yard field goal with the game on the line.

He's a ****ing LOSER. Alway was. Always has been. Always will be.

:loser:Are we thinking of a different kick then. I recall it being a 51 yard missed FG.

Guru
03-07-2009, 08:59 PM
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1042825.html

<table class="articlehead"><tbody><tr><td valign="top" width="85"> http://www.highbeam.com/Aspx/GetPubLogo.aspx?pub=The+Washington+Post (http://www.highbeam.com/The+Washington+Post/publications.aspx)
</td> <td> Dolphins Nip Chiefs, 17-16; Lowery's 52-Yard Field Goal Try Falls Short at End

<dl class="byline"><dt class="first">Article from:</dt><dd>The Washington Post (http://www.highbeam.com/The+Washington+Post/publications.aspx)</dd><dt>Article date:</dt><dd>January 6, 1991 (http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=nick+lowery+missed+kicks%20pubdate:%5B19910103;19910109%5D)</dd><dt>Author:</dt><dd> <script type="text/javascript">document.writeln('Christine Brennan');document.getElementById('ctl00_ph_ctl00_ArticleMain_AuthorLinks_ctl01_lnkAuthor').title='C hristine Brennan'</script>Christine Brennan (http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=author:%22Christine+Brennan%22) </dd><dt>More results for:</dt><dd> nick lowery missed kicks (http://www.highbeam.com/Search.aspx?q=nick+lowery+missed+kicks) </dd><!-- The hide link below should have some kind of omniture. -->| <nobr>Copyright information (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/Common/Controls/#)</nobr>Copyright (null) The Washington Post. This material is published under license from the Washington Post. All inquiries regarding rights should be directed to the Washington Post. <nobr>(Hide copyright information (http://www.highbeam.com/doc/Common/Controls/#))</nobr> </dl> </td> </tr> </tbody></table> There were 56 seconds to play and a 52-yard field goal to be made.
Nick Lowery, the man almost everyone would pick to kick it, was on the field waiting for the snap. If the kick succeeded, the Kansas City Chiefs would regain the advantage after blowing a big fourth-quarter lead in today's AFC wild-card game. If the kick failed, the Miami Dolphins would have capped a glorious comeback to win the game.
For the first time in 2 1/2 months, Lowery missed. After 24 consecutive field goals, Lowery watched as a kick he thought "was good enough to go in" dropped a foot or two short of the crossbar.
It was not good, and Miami, behind by 13 points in the fourth quarter, won 17-16.
Even though ...

cdcox
03-07-2009, 09:02 PM
I hate keekers. They are a crutch for when your team can't score a TD.

Guru
03-07-2009, 09:03 PM
Here is a better article about it...

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9D0CEED71338F935A35752C0A967958260&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

His final attempt could have come from 13 yards closer. But a holding penalty against David Szott, a rookie guard, a 3-yard loss by Christian Okoye, and an incomplete pass on third down forced the unsuccessful 52-yard attempt. And the Chiefs were left with a third consecutive playoff defeat since their most recent post-season victory, in Super Bowl IV, 21 years ago.

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 09:04 PM
http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1P2-1042825.html

Even though ...

Okay, it was a 42 that went to 52 yards.

Still. He made plenty of those kicks when the score was 52-0.

Wilting flower under pressure.

Guru
03-07-2009, 09:06 PM
Okay, it was a 42 that went to 52 yards.

Still. He made plenty of those kicks when the score was 52-0.

Wilting flower under pressure.I will never, ever fault a kicker for missing a FG beyond 50 yards. Especially when the rest of the team failed on that series as well.

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 09:10 PM
I will never, ever fault a kicker for missing a FG beyond 50 yards. Especially when the rest of the team failed on that series as well.

Really?

I would.

Totally.

It's not like it was "beyond his range".

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 09:13 PM
Okay, it was a 42 that went to 52 yards.

Still. He made plenty of those kicks when the score was 52-0.

Wilting flower under pressure.

Louie didn't tank HIS 54 yarder when the game was on the line! Go Louie!

Guru
03-07-2009, 09:13 PM
Really?

I would.

Totally.

It's not like it was "beyond his range".I have always been forgiving of kickers on 50+ FG attempts. 40 and in is money. 40-50 the averages go down slightly. 50 and beyond the average plummets. I may not be happy about a 50+ miss but I won't hold it against them either. The team blew that series more than Nick did and Szott blew it more than the team did.

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 09:16 PM
I have always been forgiving of kickers on 50+ FG attempts. 40 and in is money. 40-50 the averages go down slightly. 50 and beyond the average plummets. I may not be happy about a 50+ miss but I won't hold it against them either. The team blew that series more than Nick did and Szott blew it more than the team did.

Nick blew it. Plain and simple. To blame it on a rookie is tenuous at best.

Nick blew it in 1989. He missed two field goals (one in regulation and one in overtime) that would have put the Chiefs at 9-7 and in the playoffs.

Marty wanted him gone then. His partying and lifestyle was a "bad influence" on the other players.

mikeyis4dcats.
03-07-2009, 09:16 PM
didn't he slap a ball boy?

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 09:18 PM
didn't he slap a ball boy?

Yeah.

And much worse.

Guru
03-07-2009, 09:18 PM
Nick blew it. Plain and simple. To blame it on a rookie is tenuous at best.

Nick blew it in 1989. He missed two field goals (one in regulation and one in overtime) that would have put the Chiefs at 9-7 and in the playoffs.

Marty wanted him gone then. His partying and lifestyle was a "bad influence" on the other players.I'm not saying I liked Nick. He was an ass.

But if you want to say that was ALL on Nick then fine.:rolleyes::)

Guru
03-07-2009, 09:19 PM
didn't he slap a ball boy?He was definitely NOT a role model.

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 09:19 PM
I'm not saying I liked Nick. He was an ass.

But if you want to say that was ALL on Nick then fine.:rolleyes::)

Here's the way I see and you're welcome to disagree:

If Nick is to be considered "Elite", then he should have proved it on the field.

Is Scott Norwood in the Bills HOF?

I didn't think so.

Nick had plenty of opportunities to win important games for the Chiefs and far more often than not, he failed.

He was not an Elite kicker that produced under pressure (i.e. Vinatieri).

He was just a guy.

Guru
03-07-2009, 09:23 PM
Here's the way I see and you're welcome to disagree:

If Nick is to be considered "Elite", then he should have proved it on the field.

Is Scott Norwood in the Bills HOF?

I didn't think so.

Nick had plenty of opportunities to win important games for the Chiefs and far more often than not, he failed.

He was not an Elite kicker that produced under pressure (i.e. Vinatieri).

He was just a guy.Yeah, but this is the Chiefs Hall of Fame not the NFL Hall of Fame. Plus, like it or not, he was a fan favorite.

time for me to check out and go home.

cdcox
03-07-2009, 09:25 PM
Plus, like it or not, he was a true fan favorite.


fyp.

Darth CarlSatan
03-07-2009, 09:32 PM
Here's the way I see and you're welcome to disagree:

If Nick is to be considered "Elite", then he should have proved it on the field.

Is Scott Norwood in the Bills HOF?

I didn't think so.

Nick had plenty of opportunities to win important games for the Chiefs and far more often than not, he failed.

He was not an Elite kicker that produced under pressure (i.e. Vinatieri).

He was just a guy.

By God I want his ass kicked to the curb, and Louie inducted in his place, and I want it YESTERDAY!

:cuss: And someone tell him to cut that goddamned gay-biker moustasche too! Yarrr...:D

DaneMcCloud
03-07-2009, 09:40 PM
Yeah, but this is the Chiefs Hall of Fame not the NFL Hall of Fame. Plus, like it or not, he was a fan favorite.

time for me to check out and go home.

Have a great night!

Spott
03-07-2009, 09:45 PM
Nick blew it. Plain and simple. To blame it on a rookie is tenuous at best.

Nick blew it in 1989. He missed two field goals (one in regulation and one in overtime) that would have put the Chiefs at 9-7 and in the playoffs.

Marty wanted him gone then. His partying and lifestyle was a "bad influence" on the other players.


He actually missed 3 kicks in that tie against Cleveland in 89.

whoman69
03-07-2009, 09:45 PM
I think your memory is clouded by one game. The facts fly in your rust colored glasses. He hit 80 % of field goals in the era before specialty balls, and despite your contentions he had 14 game winning field goals. His postseason numbers are lower, but that's because of a smaller sampling. You want to hold Stenerud to the same standard? He missed a three field goals in the longest game ever including a chip shot with less than a minute left in regulation.

You really blame a kicker for missing from more than 50 yards? Go out on a football field and see how small a target it is.

Rain Man
03-07-2009, 09:46 PM
I thought Nick was a good clutch kicker. He just didn't have many clutch opportunities. I'm a Nick Lowery fan.

Ari Chi3fs
03-07-2009, 10:44 PM
Um, Karl didn't cut him. His contract was up.

The Chiefs offered $100k more than the Jets.

Nick the Dick bolted for NYC.

Marty was never a fan.

I'll just DM you my posts for fact checking prior to posting, henceforth... ok? LMAO

penchief
03-08-2009, 12:06 AM
And damn John Alt for making him miss one of the most important FGs in his career. I think it was Alt that held anyway.

I believe you're thinking of Dave Szott. And it was a horrible call by the refs. Szott was falling down backwards and they called holding on him.

Lowery was good and probably deserves to be in the Chiefs hall of fame but he also led the mutiny against John Mackovick.

And for what it's worth, I think John Alt was one of the most underrated players of his time. He was an elite left tackle but didn't get much pub.

BCD
03-08-2009, 12:26 AM
What he's saying, though, has merit.

For the most part, Lowery missed on big kicks far more often than he made them.
Seriously, though. During the 80s, how many 'big game winning' kicks could he possibly have the opportunity to make?

Darth CarlSatan
03-08-2009, 12:31 AM
I have dispatched R. Kelly to doo-doo on his moustached head!!!!

BCD
03-08-2009, 12:33 AM
I have always been forgiving of kickers on 50+ FG attempts. 40 and in is money. 40-50 the averages go down slightly. 50 and beyond the average plummets. I may not be happy about a 50+ miss but I won't hold it against them either. The team blew that series more than Nick did and Szott blew it more than the team did.Nick is the LAST player I blammed for that loss.

Rain Man
03-08-2009, 01:32 AM
And for what it's worth, I think John Alt was one of the most underrated players of his time. He was an elite left tackle but didn't get much pub.


Agreed. Richmond Webb got all the pro bowls because no one could get to Marino fast enough to sack him. Alt was as good or better, but never got the credit for it.

WilliamTheIrish
03-08-2009, 08:13 AM
Uh...yeah...he kinda did. In the 1993 playoff season vs. Pittsburgh, he made a kick to win in OT. I was there.



And he missed one from 43 that would have won it in regulation. After the Montana to Barnett heroics to tie the game, we forced a punt and drove to the Pitt 37, where Joe set him up to win in OT.


Count me in with Dane. Lowry was a piece of shit kicker and peice of shit human. He was damn lucky we got a second chance in OT.

F him.

And I was there too.

boogblaster
03-08-2009, 09:24 AM
All in all Lowry was one of the best .. so congrats NTK ...

MahiMike
03-08-2009, 09:28 AM
Good for him. Just think if Carl hadn't let him go, we'd have a ring in '93.

Guru
03-08-2009, 09:39 AM
I believe you're thinking of Dave Szott. And it was a horrible call by the refs. Szott was falling down backwards and they called holding on him.

Lowery was good and probably deserves to be in the Chiefs hall of fame but he also led the mutiny against John Mackovick.

And for what it's worth, I think John Alt was one of the most underrated players of his time. He was an elite left tackle but didn't get much pub.Yeah, we cleared that up earlier. heh

Herzig
03-08-2009, 09:41 AM
And he missed one from 43 that would have won it in regulation. After the Montana to Barnett heroics to tie the game, we forced a punt and drove to the Pitt 37, where Joe set him up to win in OT.


Count me in with Dane. Lowry was a piece of shit kicker and peice of shit human. He was damn lucky we got a second chance in OT.

F him.

And I was there too.

One out of two in a game winning situation isn't too bad. Especially in a game that was 9 degrees F.

Don't you remember Lin Elliot's 0-3? I'm not saying Lowery is the greatest Chief of all time. However, he was much more consistent than most of the kickers we've had recently.

Guru
03-08-2009, 09:45 AM
One out of two in a game winning situation isn't too bad. Especially in a game that was 9 degrees F.

Don't you remember Lin Elliot's 0-3? I'm not saying Lowery is the greatest Chief of all time. However, he was much more consistent than most of the kickers we've had recently.stoyo was better

milkman
03-08-2009, 09:45 AM
One out of two in a game winning situation isn't too bad. Especially in a game that was 9 degrees F.

Don't you remember Lin Elliot's 0-3? I'm not saying Lowery is the greatest Chief of all time. However, he was much more consistent than most of the kickers we've had recently.

With the Chiefs, better than bad is a standard argument around here.

We are one fucked up fanbase.

Deberg_1990
03-08-2009, 10:03 AM
With the Chiefs, better than bad is a standard argument around here.

We are one ****ed up fanbase.

I think the thing with Lowry is:

He was one of the very few shining beacons of light during a very dark Chiefs era.

DaneMcCloud
03-08-2009, 10:13 AM
I think the thing with Lowry is:

He was one of the very few shining beacons of light during a very dark Chiefs era.

Bullshit.

Maybe he was the only offensive weapon during that era but he was certainly not a shining beacon of light.

Unless you were doing coke with him in the bathroom at One Block West.

Cherry, Burress, Ross, Lewis, Mass, Spani, Alt, Still and Barbaro should be held in much higher regard than "Nick the Miss" under pressure.

Fuck Nick.

BCD
03-08-2009, 10:18 AM
Good for him. Just think if Carl hadn't let him go, we'd have a ring in '93.You mean '95.

gblowfish
03-08-2009, 10:22 AM
He hit on my Aunt one time. She turned him down.

You sure that wasn't your uncle he was hittin on?

DaneMcCloud
03-08-2009, 10:32 AM
You sure that wasn't your uncle he was hittin on?

LMAO

DaneMcCloud
03-08-2009, 10:34 AM
Good for him. Just think if Carl hadn't let him go, we'd have a ring in '93.

1. Carl didn't let him go.

2. Nick was with the Chiefs in 1993.

3. Even if you had the year incorrect, does Nick play QB and if not, could he somehow, single-handedly score enough points to beat Buffalo in the AFC Championship game after Montana was knocked out of the game?

Darth CarlSatan
03-08-2009, 04:32 PM
With the Chiefs, better than bad is a standard argument around here.

We are one fucked up fanbase.

Toast!

My favorite is the "good enough is good enough" take; if any franchise needed a "culture of winning" on the scale of a heart transplant, this would be the one.

Bullshit.

Maybe he was the only offensive weapon during that era but he was certainly not a shining beacon of light.

Unless you were doing coke with him in the bathroom at One Block West.

Cherry, Burress, Ross, Lewis, Mass, Spani, Alt, Still and Barbaro should be held in much higher regard than "Nick the Miss" under pressure.

Fuck Nick.

Agreed. Now, where the hell was/is One Block West?

DaneMcCloud
03-08-2009, 08:19 PM
Toast!

My favorite is the "good enough is good enough" take; if any franchise needed a "culture of winning" on the scale of a heart transplant, this would be the one.



Agreed. Now, where the hell was/is One Block West?

It was in KCK, Wyandotte County.

It closed in 1987 after the drinking age was raised.

Denver Dave
03-08-2009, 08:24 PM
Lowery is a pimp. Imagine all the sluts he turned on by rubbing his moustache hairs on their clit.

Darth CarlSatan
03-08-2009, 08:25 PM
It was in KCK, Wyandotte County.

It closed in 1987 after the drinking age was raised.

Oi! Thanks.

Did you ever go to Starz on Broadway back in the day, before it became hip-hop?

Darth CarlSatan
03-08-2009, 08:26 PM
Lowery is a pimp. Imagine all the sluts he turned on by rubbing his moustache hairs on their clit.

That's no way to talk about your parents, Donko.:D