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Mr. Krab
03-08-2009, 12:26 PM
College Scouting

By Wes Bunting (http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/author/wes-bunting/)
Posted January 31, 2009 (<---- Before combine ratings)
2009 NFL Draft Value Chart

One word that is thrown around more than any other on draft day has to be “value.” NFL draft boards are put together to help determine not only the ranking of a prospect, but also how many prospects are worthy of being selected in each of the seven rounds. So when NFL teams discuss value they are not necessarily talking about the top 32 players on their board, but instead, they are breaking down the prospects into different tiers, which helps them determine just how many players are worthy of a first round grade. Below is The National Football Post’s first value chart for the 2009 NFL Draft.

VALUE CHART

Tier 1 (Elite Prospects)

Michael Crabtree: WR, Texas Tech
Aaron Curry: OLB, Wake Forest
Eugene Monroe: OT, Virginia
B.J. Raji: DT, Boston College
Malcolm Jenkins: CB, Ohio State

Tier 2 (High First-Round Caliber)

Andre Smith: OT, Alabama
Jason Smith: OT, Baylor
Mark Sanchez: QB, USC
Brian Orakpo: DE/OLB, Texas
Matthew Stafford: QB, Georgia
Everette Brown: Florida State
Michael Oher: OT, Ole Miss
Knowshon Moreno: RB, Georgia

Tier 3 (First-Round Caliber)

Peria Jerry: DT, Ole Miss
D.J. Moore: CB, Vanderbilt
Chris Wells: RB Ohio State
Brian Cushing: OLB, USC
LeSean McCoy: RB, Pittsburgh
Jeremy Maclin: WR, Missouri
Brandon Pettigrew: TE, Oklahoma State
Rey Maualuga: ILB, USC
Percy Harvin: RB/WR, Florida
Alphonso Smith: CB, Wake Forest
Aaron Maybin: OLB/DE, Penn State
Clay Matthews: OLB, USC
Robert Ayers: DE, Tennessee

Tier 4 (Late First-Round/Early Second-Round Caliber)

James Laurinaitis: ILB, Ohio State
Vontae Davis: CB, Illinois
Eben Britton: OT, Arizona
William Beatty: OT, Connecticut
Darrius Heyward-Bey: WR, Maryland
Sean Smith: CB/FS, Utah
Hakeem Nicks: WR, North Carolina
Michael Johnson: DE/OLB, Georgia Tech
Josh Freeman: QB, Kansas State
Coye Francies: CB, San Jose State
Sen’Derrick Marks: DT, Auburn
Louis Delmas: FS, Western Michigan

Tier 5 (Second-Round Caliber)

Larry English: OLB/DE, Northern Illinois
Tyson Jackson: DE, LSU
Alex Mack: C, California
Shonn Greene: RB, Iowa
Max Unger: C. Oregon
Clint Sintim: OLB, Virginia
Derrick Williams: WR, Penn State
Chase Coffman: TE, Missouri
Kenny Britt: WR, Rutgers
Duke Robinson: OG, Oklahoma
James Casey: TE, Rice
Juaquin Iglesias: WR, Oklahoma
Eric Wood: C, Louisville
Jarron Gilbert: DT, San Jose State
David Veikune: DE, Hawaii
Shawn Nelson: TE, Southern Miss
Tyronne Green: OG, Auburn

Tier 6 (Second/Third-Round Caliber)

Darius Butler: CB, Connecticut
Brian Robiskie: WR, Ohio State
Patrick Chung: SS, Oregon
Paul Kruger: DE/OLB, Utah
Jairus Byrd: CB, Oregon
Donald Brown: RB, Connecticut
Herman Johnson: OG, LSU
Evander Hood: DT, Missouri
Javon Ringer: RB, Michigan State
Pat White: QB, West Virginia
Connor Barwin: DE/TE, Cincinnati
Jonathan Luigs: C, Arkansas
Jared Cook: TE, South Carolina
Darry Beckwith: ILB, LSU
Mike Mickens: CB, Cincinnati
Fili Moala: DT, USC
Asher Allen: CB, Georgia
Chip Vaughn: SS, Wake Forest
Nate Davis: QB, Ball State

Tier 7 (Third-Round Caliber)

Jamon Meredith: OT, South Carolina
Victor Harris: CB, Virginia Tech
Mitch King: DT, Iowa
Tyrone McKenzie: OLB, South Florida
Ron Brace: DT, Boston College
Troy Kropog: OT, Tulane
Derek Pegues: FS, Mississippi State
Marcus Freeman: OLB, Ohio State
Antoine Caldwell: C, Alabama
Fenuki Tupou: OT, Oregon
Jeremiah Johnson: RB, Oregon
Trevor Canfield: OG, Cincinnati
Rashad Johnson: FS, Alabama
Augustus Parrish: OT, Kent State
Vance Walker: DT, Georgia Tech

Tier 8 (Third/Fourth-Round Caliber)

William Moore: FS, Missouri
Louis Murphy: WR, Florida
Domonique Johnson: CB, Jackson State
Cody Brown: DE/OLB, Connecticut
Jarett Dillard: WR, Rice
Scott McKillop: MLB, Pittsburgh
Cary Harris: CB, USC
Andre Brown: RB, N.C. State
Zack Follett: OLB, California
Ricky Jean-Francois: DT, LSU
Sherrod Martin: FS, Troy
Corvey Irvin: DT, Georgia

Tier 9 (Fourth-Round Caliber)

Rashad Jennings: RB, Liberty
Phil Loadholt: OT, Oklahoma
Kraig Urbik: OG, Wisconsin
Michael Hamlin: SS, Clemson
Captain Munnerlyn: CB, South Carolina
Alex Magee: DT, Purdue
Rhett Bomar: QB, Sam Houston
Louie Sakoda: K, Utah
Emanuel Cook: SS, South Carolina
Travis Beckum: TE, Wisconsin
David Bruton: FS, Notre Dame
James Davis: RB, Clemson

Tier 10 (Impact Late-Round Prospects)

Mike Thomas: WR, Arizona
A.Q. Shipley: C, Penn State
Cedric Peerman: RB, Virginia
Jason Watkins: OT, Florida
Kyle Moore: DE, USC
Michael Bennett: DE, Texas A&M
Clinton McDonald: DT, Memphis
Mortty Ivy: OLB, West Virginia
Joseph Frantz: ILB, Florida Atlantic
Stephen Hodge: SS, TCU
Thomas Morstead: P, Southern Methodist
Graham Gano: K, Florida State
Kenny McKinley: WR, South Carolina
Graham Harrell: QB, Texas Tech

http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/2009/01/2009-nfl-draft-value-chart/

milkman
03-08-2009, 12:33 PM
That is a terrible chart.

BryanBusby
03-08-2009, 12:53 PM
Tier 1 (Elite Prospects)

Malcolm Jenkins: CB, Ohio State

I stopped reading there.

Pioli Zombie
03-08-2009, 01:22 PM
Here I want to fit in on chiefs planet

THATS RETAAAAAAH-DED
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MIAdragon
03-08-2009, 01:24 PM
I just cant see Michael Crabtree as a T1

RustShack
03-08-2009, 01:25 PM
Theres not an elite prospect in this years draft...

milkman
03-08-2009, 01:27 PM
Here I want to fit in on chiefs planet

THATS RETAAAAAAH-DED
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I've heard that little dicks never have a problem fitting in, they just don't provide anything worthwhile.

SNR
03-08-2009, 01:44 PM
Here I want to fit in on chiefs planet

THATS RETAAAAAAH-DED
Posted via Mobile DeviceIf Haley makes a stupid pick, I guess we could say THAT'S RETOOOOOODDED

SenselessChiefsFan
03-08-2009, 03:03 PM
That is a terrible chart.

Oh Crap... we agree.

I was surprised to see Jenkins as an 'elite' talent. I was also surprised to see Raji, but I know I don't know him as well as some.

I figured Sanchez wouldn't be elite, but I expected Stafford to be there.

Chocolate Hog
03-08-2009, 03:04 PM
Sanchez & Stafford are the only elite prospects

RINGLEADER
03-08-2009, 03:11 PM
I still say it's Curry or whatever OT is there at 3.

Or, if we can find a buyer, we trade down and get more picks. I'd love to make one of those trades where we swap #1's this year for another team's #2 pick this year and their #1 pick next year. If I were a GM I would never do that but a lot of teams do trade away their future top picks.

Mr. Krab
03-08-2009, 03:12 PM
I'd love to make one of those trades where we swap #1's this year for another team's #2 pick this year and their #1 pick next year.
That would be outstanding.

WhitiE
03-08-2009, 03:13 PM
Theres not an elite prospect in this years draft...

right..... not a single one.......

RustShack
03-08-2009, 03:16 PM
right..... not a single one.......

Compared to about any other year this is a very shitty top of the draft.

Chocolate Hog
03-08-2009, 03:18 PM
Compared to about any other year this is a very shitty top of the draft.

Yea cause they've all played in the NFL and proven they suck already

RustShack
03-08-2009, 03:21 PM
Yea cause they've all played in the NFL and proven they suck already

I'm not talking about how they will be. I'm talking about them as prospects douche bag. There isn't a freak WR like Calvin Johnson, there isn't a LT like Pace or Joe Thomas, there isn't a DE like Mario Williams, there isn't a DT like Dorsey, there isn't a QB like Manning, there isn't a LB like Urlacher or Willis. The best prospect this year is probably Curry who is barely better than Mayo who was a reach last year.

Chocolate Hog
03-08-2009, 03:26 PM
I'm not talking about how they will be. I'm talking about them as prospects douche bag. There isn't a freak WR like Calvin Johnson, there isn't a LT like Pace or Joe Thomas, there isn't a DE like Mario Williams, there isn't a DT like Dorsey, there isn't a QB like Manning, there isn't a LB like Urlacher or Willis. The best prospect this year is probably Curry who is barely better than Mayo who was a reach last year.

Mayo was a reach that won Defensive Rookie of The Year. You mean there isn't a D-tackle like Dorsey? So you mean the D-tackles drafted this year will actually make plays? Theres not a Peyton Manning in this draft? You and all the other draftubators made it sound like Stafford & Sanchez were.

RustShack
03-08-2009, 03:31 PM
Mayo was a reach that won Defensive Rookie of The Year. You mean there isn't a D-tackle like Dorsey? So you mean the D-tackles drafted this year will actually make plays? Theres not a Peyton Manning in this draft? You and all the other draftubators made it sound like Stafford & Sanchez were. You shouldn't listen to ESPN's talking points and maybe make your own opinons nutsack.

I am making my own opinion Billgay, if I wasn't I obviously would think there were great prospects like the media has you believing dumbass. Once again, you are a fucking idiot to keep bringing up how they are after, because we can't see how these guys will be. You have to draft by how good of a prospect they are, I'm sorry that I don't have a time machine like you and can't see how they will be.

Darth CarlSatan
03-08-2009, 05:20 PM
What do these rankings mean anyway, and who's going to use them as a guideline?
This is strictly fan stuff; the NFL teams know who and what they want by now. Do they think if they pull this list out at the post-draft meetings with the draftees agent, that the agent is going to say, "Okay, we'll knock a million-five off the contract"?

No. Not in the real world.