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Mr. Flopnuts
03-16-2009, 02:40 PM
http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/story/9338770/Cutler-asks-for-trade,-doesn't-show-for-meeting?MSNHPHMA

ENGLEWOOD, Colo. (AP) - Jay Cutler was a no-show on Monday for coach Josh McDaniels' first team meeting and the start of the Denver Broncos' offseason workouts, and if he gets his way, he'll never step foot in the team's training facility again.

"The Denver Broncos confirm that Jay Cutler has requested a trade," team spokesman Jim Saccomano told The Associated Press on Monday.

Cutler, still upset that the Broncos tried to trade him for New England quarterback Matt Cassel last month, had asked for a trade through his agent, Bus Cook, ESPN reported.

Cook, who was traveling, didn't return phone calls to The AP. The Denver Post quoted McDaniels as saying he wanted to meet again with Cutler to try to resolve their differences before considering a trade.

Cutler told ESPN he would attend every mandatory minicamp and training camp but would skip the offseason training program, which won't subject him to fines. Although it's voluntary, the coaches expect everyone to attend the team's offseason program.

The Broncos' first minicamp is April 17-19, a week before the draft.

Cutler and McDaniels met face-to-face Saturday along with Cook and general manager Brian Xanders. Cutler was expecting a reconciliation, but the meeting didn't go well from his standpoint, resulting in the trade request.

The Broncos have said they have no interest in trading their star quarterback, who set several team passing records last season and just played in his first Pro Bowl.

It's looking increasingly likely, however, that trading Cutler might be the only way to resolve the dispute.

Cutler has been unhappy since learning that McDaniels, who was New England's offensive coordinator the last three seasons, entertained the notion of trading him to Tampa Bay in a three-way swap that would have brought Cassel from the Patriots to Denver. New England instead traded Cassel to Kansas City.

Cutler believes McDaniels, who replaced Mike Shanahan in January, misled him about those trade talks.

McDaniels has said all he did was listen to the trade proposals, as he would with any player, as he tries to rebuild a Broncos team that hasn't been to the playoffs since 2005.

The Broncos have been the NFL's most active team in free agency, signing 15 players, including quarterback Chris Simms, a former starter in Tampa Bay who has thrown just two passes since having emergency surgery to remove his spleen after a game in 2006.

Simms signed for two years and $6 million, ostensibly to serve as Cutler's backup.

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 02:53 PM
To the Mange!

LMAO

talastan
03-16-2009, 02:59 PM
To the Mange!

LMAO

http://mountcope.files.wordpress.com/2007/09/nuclear_blast.jpg


ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:00 PM
Damn. McDaniels is reaching out. That's too bad.

You know, it's starting to look more and more as though Cutler wanted a trade all along and just leveraged this situation to his benefit. I hope they send him to Detroit.

FAX

Mr. Flopnuts
03-16-2009, 03:01 PM
Damn. McDaniels is reaching out. That's too bad.

You know, it's starting to look more and more as though Cutler wanted a trade all along and just leveraged this situation to his benefit. I hope they send him to Detroit.

FAX

I honestly hope they don't send him anywhere until next season. This is getting juicier every single day.

Pestilence
03-16-2009, 03:02 PM
He'll go to Tampa Bay.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:03 PM
Damn. McDaniels is reaching out. That's too bad.

You know, it's starting to look more and more as though Cutler wanted a trade all along and just leveraged this situation to his benefit. I hope they send him to Detroit.

FAX

You could very well be correct.
Bus Cook has a solid track record of sowing discord and wreaking havoc to get his clients a contract or force a trade where they will get more $$.
With 2010 looking like it could be a year without a salary cap players/agents are wanting to lock up their $ now.

None of this changes the fact that Coach McKid is a tool.

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:03 PM
I honestly hope they don't send him anywhere until next season. This is getting juicier every single day.

You're absolutely right, Mr. Mr. Flopnuts. I retract.

The best possible outcome at this point would be a full season of whining and bitching and crying and pissing and wedgies and fighting and hair pulling and panty twisting.

You go, goats.

FAX

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 03:03 PM
ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

One of the fans over there posted , "I hope his diabetes ends his career".

ROFL

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 03:04 PM
He'll go to Tampa Bay.

Oh God I hope!

BryanBusby
03-16-2009, 03:05 PM
Damn. McDaniels is reaching out. That's too bad.

You know, it's starting to look more and more as though Cutler wanted a trade all along and just leveraged this situation to his benefit. I hope they send him to Detroit.

FAX

Trade? Not sure about that. More of drunken Bowlens money in form of a new deal? Very likely.

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:05 PM
You could very well be correct.
Bus Cook has a solid track record of sowing discord and wreaking havoc to get his clients a contract or force a trade where they will get more $$.
With 2010 looking like it could be a year without a salary cap players/agents are wanting to lock up their $ now.

None of this changes the fact that Coach McKid is a tool.

I still don't see what McDaniels did wrong. He has every right to discuss a trade, doesn't he, Mr. vailpass? How was he supposed to know that Cutler would go all 15 year old teenage girl on his ass?

FAX

Buck
03-16-2009, 03:09 PM
I just hope that Denver's next QB is as easy to make fun of as Jay Cutler / Jake Plummer.

I had fun times w/ them.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:09 PM
I still don't see what McDaniels did wrong. He has every right to discuss a trade, doesn't he, Mr. vailpass? How was he supposed to know that Cutler would go all 15 year old teenage girl on his ass?

FAX

IMHO Shanny, Parcells, Cower, Belichik or any other coach that knows what he is doing would have taken control of this situation from the beginning, preventing it from ever becoming an issue. There is no question that any player can be discussed in a trade but how you go about it separates the men coaches from the boys. How you handle a franchise QB is a lot different than a 3rd string special teamer.

In my opinion McKid is supposed to be the grown up here and he is failing.

the Talking Can
03-16-2009, 03:11 PM
just beyond epic awesomeness....

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:12 PM
just beyond epic awesomeness....

:) You are so loving this.

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:13 PM
IMHO Shanny, Parcells, Cower, Belichik or any other coach that knows what he is doing would have taken control of this situation from the beginning, preventing it from ever becoming an issue. There is no question that any player can be discussed in a trade but how you go about it separates the men coaches from the boys. How you handle a franchise QB is a lot different than a 3rd string special teamer.

In my opinion McKid is supposed to be the grown up here and he is failing.

I'm not trying to be obtuse here, Mr. vailpass. It just comes naturally.

But, how was McDaniels supposed to take "control" of the situation? Hell, all he did was discuss a trade. By the time he hung up the phone, Cutler had locked himself in the bathroom.

FAX

the Talking Can
03-16-2009, 03:15 PM
:) You are so loving this.

dude, your HC has a crush on our QB like Brittney Spears on white trash cock....

and he's willing to burn your franchise to the ground to express his love...


no words suffice

DeezNutz
03-16-2009, 03:15 PM
I'm not trying to be obtuse here, Mr. vailpass. It just comes naturally.

But, how was McDaniels supposed to take "control" of the situation? Hell, all he did was discuss a trade. By the time he hung up the phone, Cutler had locked himself in the bathroom.

FAX

I'm guessing lying to defuse the situation would be in order.

The NFL equivalent of the proverbial, "I wasn't just looking at that other woman."

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:17 PM
I'm not trying to be obtuse here, Mr. vailpass. It just comes naturally.

But, how was McDaniels supposed to take "control" of the situation? Hell, all he did was discuss a trade. By the time he hung up the phone, Cutler had locked himself in the bathroom.

FAX

Any HC worth his salt would went to Cutler and said "look, before you hear this from anyone else here is what happened today. It's just business and I want you to hear it from me."
Instead Cutler hears about it via other sources, then McKid lies to Cutler, telling him he didn't initiate any trade talks he just listened to offers.
Again, if it was Parcells or Cower or Shanny this would have been over before it started.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:18 PM
dude, your HC has a crush on our QB like Brittney Spears on white trash cock....

and he's willing to burn your franchise to the ground to express his love...


no words suffice

ROFL You are killing me Can. And I can't argue with a thing you say.

Brock
03-16-2009, 03:19 PM
I thought he had asked to be traded months ago. He hasn't wanted to be there since Shanahan was fired.

talastan
03-16-2009, 03:19 PM
I'm guessing lying to defuse the situation would be in order.

The NFL equivalent of the proverbial, "I wasn't just looking at that other woman."

ROFL

McKid: "I swear, baby, he can't throw a ball like you....although he does protect it better and he does work my system alot more efficently..but I still want you. I can learn to love you, I promise!!"

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 03:19 PM
CUtler talks to ESPN <hr style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);" size="1"> <!-- / icon and title --> <!-- message --> "I went in there with every intention of solving the issue, being a Bronco, moving forward as a Bronco," said Cutler. "We weren't in there but about 20 minutes, [McDaniels] did most of the talking and as far as I'm concerned, he made it clear he wants his own guy. He admitted he wanted Matt Cassel because he said he has raised him up from the ground as a quarterback. He said he wasn't sorry about it. He made it clear that he could still entertain trading me because, as he put it, he'll do whatever he feels is in the best interest of the organization.

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"At the end of the meeting, he wasn't like, 'Jay, I want you as our quarterback, you're our guy.' It felt like the opposite. He basically said that I needed to tell him if we can't work this out, to let him know. I thought he was antagonizing me and that was disappointing because I was ready to move on, committed as a Bronco. Really, I figured we'd hash things out, shake hands, laugh a little and move forward. What happened [Saturday] was the last thing I expected. If I didn't think it could be fixed, I never would have come back to Denver. It was painfully obvious to me and Bus [Cook, his agent] it's not something they want to fix."

Consequently, Cutler instructed Cook, who also attended the meeting, to formally request a trade. The quarterback said he left town late Sunday and would skip McDaniels' first team meeting on Monday as they begin their off-season program.

Broncos owner Pat Bowlen told the Denver Post on Sunday that he was disappointed with how Cutler has handled the situation. In a telephone interview with ESPN, McDaniels was reluctantly expansive on the story.

"I realy have wanted to avoided a he-said, she-said thing but it's only fair for us to present the Bronco side of the story rather than let things get taken out of context," said McDaniels. "There's been a pattern here for the past two weeks the way things [have been represented] in our communications. I don't think anythng that happened [Saturday] was out of the ordinary. At the end of the meeting, Jay said he had thought about things quite a bit and requested a few more hours to mull things over. He said he wanted to talk to Bus on how to proceed. He was gonna call me on my cell phone and that never happened. Instead, Bus called [GM] Brian [Xanders].

"Again, I think that's been a pattern. I couldn't get [Cutler] to talk to me for two weeks or to talk to Mr. Bowlen. Then when he came here this weekend, we couldn't get a one-on-one meeting, just me and him alone. He wanted Bus in there, so I had Brian sit in, too. And it was the four of us, there wasn't any yelling, none of that. I can't believe we get to a totally different [interpretation].

"It's an unfortunate set of circumstances that has cropped up, a potential distraction and we've done our best to limit that. The main message I want to get out is that we're excited to start our off-season program [Monday]. It's an exciting time for us."

Cutler won't be present at the team meeting.

"I certainly went back there, expecting I'd be there [Monday] but not now," said Cutler. "It's not mandatory. I'll attend every mandatory mini-camp and training camp but that's it. Really, it's best for me to move on. As coach said, he needs every eye in the meeting room to be on him and not me."

As McDaniels pointed out, Cutler had a completely different expectation when he left their private meeting on Saturday.

Cutler said, "You know, even after the meeting, I hung around town, kind of expecting him to call me and say, 'Hey, let's just me and you get away and have lunch or a cup of coffee' and mend things but that didn't happen. So, I get it, really, it's a business. I'm disappointed beause I love being a Bronco but I think it's run its course."

Cutler denied recent reports that he had asked to be traded when the Broncos fired offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates.

"Yes, I was upset when they let Jeremy go because Mr. Bowlen had assured me when Mike [Shanahan] was fired that the offense wouldn't change because [it] was the second-ranked offense in football," said Cutler. "But I didn't push for a trade then."

McDaniels and Cutler agreed on at least one element of the controversy, knocking down a Sunday report on NFL Network that the coach had criticized the quarterback's play in 2008.

"That just isn't true," said McDaniels. "Not a word has been said about that."

Cutler added, "Josh has never said anything negative to me about my play or anything else, for that matter."

McDaniels admitted that the team got involved in trade discussions for Cassel, who instead was dealt to the Kansas City Chiefs. However, he said any perception Cutler felt that the team could still trade him was misleading.

"That's what we have communicated ever since the deal with Cassel didn't happen," said McDaniels. "Other teams have called but we're not interested in getting draft picks for Jay. I never made a statement [Saturday] that 'you can be traded at any time.' They asked a question and I told them it was the time of year when people inquire about your team. Your job, as a head coach and general manager, is to listen and not bypass any opportunity to help your team improve. I think most people [in the NFL] feel the same way. You make smart, educated decisions that are best for your football team."

Cutler feels like McDaniels lost his credibility with him when he initially denied to the quarterback that the Broncos tried to acquire Cassel only to admit it later.

"Before this trade for Cassel thing ever came up, in the two weeks or so I had spent with McDaniels, he was basically telling me that he came to Denver because he wanted to coach me and that we needed to trust each other," said Cutler. "He's never been critical to me. But trust now? How can I trust him now?"

He also explained that his house being placed for sale on the market was "nothing more than a coincidence."

"I had already shown my house privately to some interested buyers a couple of months ago," said Cutler. "I've really been looking to buy 40 to 70 acres of land there."

As for ignoring phone calls from McDaniels and Bowlen, Cutler said, "Josh and I have exchanged text messages. We had a conference call. And if Pat wanted to speak to me, why didn't he come to the meeting on Saturday?"

Cook said that as an agent he was "totally in shock" that it has gotten so ugly.

"I would have bet my house going into Saturday's meeting that everyone would be shaking hands and smiling," said Cook. "I thought it was going to get worked out. But it was very clear to me that Jay Cutler is not their choice to be quarterback of that team."

Yet Cook admitted that when he called Xanders to request a trade on Saturday night, the team's general manager said it wasn't going to happen and that "Jay should show up Monday."

That wasn't going to happen, either.

Chris Mortensen is a senior NFL analyst for ESPN.

DeezNutz
03-16-2009, 03:19 PM
Any HC worth his salt would went to Cutler and said "look, before you hear this from anyone else here is what happened today. It's just business and I want you to hear it from me."
Instead Cutler hears about it via other sources, then McKid lies to Cutler, telling him he didn't initiate any trade talks he just listened to offers.
Again, if it was Parcells or Cower or Shanny this would have been over before it started.

I'm not sure 100 percent honesty is the best answer. The "Yes, I'd rather have Cassel" line doesn't seem to be yielding dividends.

Except for TTC, who has been aces since this thing blew up.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:20 PM
I'm guessing lying to defuse the situation would be in order.

The NFL equivalent of the proverbial, "I wasn't just looking at that other woman."

No, telling the truth face-to-face is what would have defused the situation. Act like a man.
Lying is what caused the whole mess.

Just Passin' By
03-16-2009, 03:20 PM
Any HC worth his salt would went to Cutler and said "look, before you hear this from anyone else here is what happened today. It's just business and I want you to hear it from me."
Instead Cutler hears about it via other sources, then McKid lies to Cutler, telling him he didn't initiate any trade talks he just listened to offers.
Again, if it was Parcells or Cower or Shanny this would have been over before it started.

Again, where was the lie? How about some links?

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:21 PM
I'm not sure 100 percent honesty is the best answer. The "Yes, I'd rather have Cassel" line doesn't seem to be yielding dividends.

Agreed. But McKid should have looked him in the eye and said"I discussed a trade involving you. It didn't happen. If you ever have any questions come to me. See you Monday."

And yes, Can is on fucking fire.

DeezNutz
03-16-2009, 03:24 PM
Agreed. But McKid should have looked him in the eye and said"I discussed a trade involving you. It didn't happen. If you ever have any questions come to me. See you Monday."

And yes, Can is on ****ing fire.

I agree with this, assuming he could accomplish this while still projecting confidence in Cutler, which would be a very difficult dance. Too much info. has leaked, which is a huge mistake.

RINGLEADER
03-16-2009, 03:25 PM
Look at all the carnage Bernard Pollard has created...

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:26 PM
Well, sometimes when a little girl is holding her breath and turning blue, lying is the only answer. Besides, Cutler didn't even attend the meeting without his agent. What a chicken penis.

Nope. I think McDaniels was manipulated by Cutler's agent from the beginning and there was little, if anything, he could have done. But, it's all good. The goats' offense will be 11 monkeys in a circle jerk this year. Somewhat disturbing, but fun to watch.

FAX

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:26 PM
I agree with this, assuming he could accomplish this while still projecting confidence in Cutler, which would be a very difficult dance. Too much info. has leaked, which is a huge mistake.

Nothing would have leaked if McKid had taken charge from the start like a real HC would have. Bus Cook isn't helping the situation at all.

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 03:27 PM
Look at all the carnage Bernard Pollard has created...

Bingo.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:29 PM
Well, sometimes when a little girl is holding her breath and turning blue, lying is the only answer. Besides, Cutler didn't even attend the meeting without his agent. What a chicken penis.

Nope. I think McDaniels was manipulated by Cutler's agent from the beginning and there was little, if anything, he could have done. But, it's all good. The goats' offense will be an 11 monkey circle jerk this year. Fun to watch.

FAX

Players or agents should not be able to manipulate an NFL head coach. McKid bungled this from the start, lied to his star QB and got called out on it. If a player or agent pulled this shit with Shanny or Parcells et al there would be a come-to-jesus meeting and everyone who lived through it would come out on the same page. McKid has a lot of growing up to do.

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:30 PM
Look at all the carnage Bernard Pollard has created...

Ring of Fame material.

FAX

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 03:30 PM
I agree with this, assuming he could accomplish this while still projecting confidence in Cutler, which would be a very difficult dance. Too much info. has leaked, which is a huge mistake.

The virtues of tight lips, demonstrated to the fullest extent possible, is the crux of this entire affair.

alanm
03-16-2009, 03:31 PM
Cutler has to have a vagina the size of the Grand Canyon. He has written a new chapter in the Whiny Ass Bitches book. :shake:

FAX
03-16-2009, 03:33 PM
Players or agents should not be able to manipulate an NFL head coach. McKid bungled this from the start, lied to his star QB and got called out on it. If a player or agent pulled this shit with Shanny or Parcells et al there would be a come-to-jesus meeting and everyone who lived through it would come out on the same page. McKid has a lot of growing up to do.

Well, I can see this point, Mr. vailpass. You're right. McDaniels was caught unawares and a more seasoned HC wouldn't have let this spin so far out of control.

I just don't think he should get all the blame. The agent is the cause of this horrific mess. That is, if I understand the story.

FAX

Just Passin' By
03-16-2009, 03:37 PM
Well, I can see this point, Mr. vailpass. You're right. McDaniels was caught unawares and a more seasoned HC wouldn't have let this spin so far out of control.

I just don't think he should get all the blame. The agent is the cause of this horrific mess. That is, if I understand the story.

FAX

Cutler/Bus has been going to the press every 30 seconds. There is nothing that could have been done short of putting a gag in their mouths or a bullet in their asses.

Of course, many Broncos fans have apparently forgotten Cook's antics with Favre over the past 2 seasons and are blaming McDaniels.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:38 PM
Well, I can see this point, Mr. vailpass. You're right. McDaniels was caught unawares and a more seasoned HC wouldn't have let this spin so far out of control.

I just don't think he should get all the blame. The agent is the cause of this horrific mess. That is, if I understand the story.

FAX

Bus Cook is a former personal injury attorney and is most definetely part of the problem here.

the Talking Can
03-16-2009, 03:39 PM
ROFL You are killing me Can. And I can't argue with a thing you say.

as a chiefs fan, i'll take a little bit of schadenfreude anywhere i can get it...

talastan
03-16-2009, 03:40 PM
Donkey Fan: Chris "Ow, my spleen" Simms FTW!! ROFL

Skip Towne
03-16-2009, 03:43 PM
It appears Cutler has realized what a scumbag organization the Donkeys are. Good for him.

The Bad Guy
03-16-2009, 03:43 PM
Bus Cook is a former personal injury attorney and is most definetely part of the problem here.

He's just doing his job now.

McDaniels and Xander are the main problem. This could all have been taken care of with some easy preventative maintence.

Instead they let a spark turn into a bonfire.

Buehler445
03-16-2009, 03:44 PM
Sooooo....

The Chiefs should NEVER. EVER. Deal with a player whose agent is Bus Cook.
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vailpass
03-16-2009, 03:46 PM
He's just doing his job now.

McDaniels and Xander are the main problem. This could all have been taken care of with some easy preventative maintence.

Instead they let a spark turn into a bonfire.

No question. Also Bowlen could have taken charge once it became apparent that his dynamic duo were screwing up his franchise QB.

jjchieffan
03-16-2009, 03:51 PM
This talk has got me wondering. Could Sanchez fall to the Donkeys at 12? It looks like The Lions and Lambs will go LT. KC gets Curry. From there, who takes QB? Seattle could take Stafford. Browns, Bengals, Faiders, Packers and Bills have young QB's so they don't take one. The 49er's are probably too gun shy from Alex Smith to pull the trigger. That leaves the Jags between the Donkeys and Sanchez.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 04:06 PM
This talk has got me wondering. Could Sanchez fall to the Donkeys at 12? It looks like The Lions and Lambs will go LT. KC gets Curry. From there, who takes QB? Seattle could take Stafford. Browns, Bengals, Faiders, Packers and Bills have young QB's so they don't take one. The 49er's are probably too gun shy from Alex Smith to pull the trigger. That leaves the Jags between the Donkeys and Sanchez.

Bowlen is on record as saying he will never draft a mexican quarterback.

FAX
03-16-2009, 04:10 PM
Bowlen is on record as saying he will never draft a mexican quarterback.

He may have no choice, Mr. vailpass, since they are the only peeps who will do a job that other Americans won't do.

FAX

vailpass
03-16-2009, 04:17 PM
He may have no choice, Mr. vailpass, since they are the only peeps who will do a job that other Americans won't do.

FAX

:D

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 04:23 PM
Cutler has to have a vagina the size of the Grand Canyon. He has written a new chapter in the Whiny Ass Bitches book. :shake:

The Grand Canyon resents that remark.

Sooooo....

The Chiefs should NEVER. EVER. Deal with a player whose agent is Bus Cook.
Posted via Mobile Device

This.

Bowlen is on record as saying he will never draft a mexican quarterback.

God Bless that idiot's racism. God Bless Bus Cook;may his family and gene poole live long and prosper.

Mr. Flopnuts
03-16-2009, 05:16 PM
It's interesting to see them now confirming they were after Cassel, after so vehemently denying it for so long. Thank you for taking Al Davis' advice on football operations Mr. Bowlen.

Spott
03-16-2009, 05:19 PM
Maybe the Titans will trade for him and send him back home to Nashville. If we are really lucky, they'll trade Vince Young straight up for him.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 05:30 PM
[QUOTE=Mr. Flopnuts;5587858]It's interesting to see them now confirming they were after Cassel, after so vehemently denying it for so long. Thank you for taking Al Davis' advice on football operations Mr. Bowlen.[/QUOTE

Yep, they fucked up, then made it worse by trying to cover up.
You can thank McKid for the faider-esque way things are looking at 5280 right now. Though Bowlen should have stepped in and took the reins when he saw his new hire was more of a trainee than a head coach.

skky man
03-16-2009, 06:48 PM
The only thing funnier would be fire McDaniels and hire Weis away from the golden domers! Where does the line start for the final nail in the mange coffin?

Mr. Flopnuts
03-16-2009, 07:01 PM
Yep, they fucked up, then made it worse by trying to cover up.
You can thank McKid for the faider-esque way things are looking at 5280 right now. Though Bowlen should have stepped in and took the reins when he saw his new hire was more of a trainee than a head coach.

How did Bowlen get so fooled by this rookie? I put all of the blame right on his doorstep. Where should I forward that Christmas card?

vailpass
03-16-2009, 08:05 PM
How did Bowlen get so fooled by this rookie? I put all of the blame right on his doorstep. Where should I forward that Christmas card?

I don't know Flop, I just don't know. We'll see what kind of a game-day coach McKid is, maybe he will turn out to be a good hire but so far.......at least it entertains the rest of the league.:grr:

CoMoChief
03-16-2009, 08:50 PM
Somewhere. Shanahan is laughing his fucking ass off ROFL.

DeezNutz
03-16-2009, 08:52 PM
Yep, they ****ed up, then made it worse by trying to cover up.
You can thank McKid for the faider-esque way things are looking at 5280 right now. Though Bowlen should have stepped in and took the reins when he saw his new hire was more of a trainee than a head coach.

Is that text code for, "We desperately want your quarterback"?

You can type it next time. My parents aren't in the room.

FAX
03-16-2009, 08:59 PM
The only thing funnier would be fire McDaniels and hire Weis away from the golden domers! Where does the line start for the final nail in the mange coffin?

Some Planeteers (intelligent and knowledgeable ones, by the way) are saying that Bowlen would never fire McDaniels because he's already paying Rizzo and it would wind up being just too expensive.

I, however, am not so sure. Frankly, and when you look objectively at the entire situation, firing McDaniels might be the very best way to resolve this situation - at least so far as the goats are concerned. It would mean that this season is in the tank, but it probably is anyway. But, at least they would still have their franchise quarterback in pocket.

FAX

Mr. Flopnuts
03-16-2009, 09:09 PM
Some Planeteers (intelligent and knowledgeable ones, by the way) are saying that Bowlen would never fire McDaniels because he's already paying Rizzo and it would wind up being just too expensive.

I, however, am not so sure. Frankly, and when you look objectively at the entire situation, firing McDaniels might be the very best way to resolve this situation - at least so far as the goats are concerned. It would mean that this season is in the tank, but it probably is anyway. But, at least they would still have their franchise quarterback in pocket.

FAX

That'd work. He could come coach Cassel here in KC. As QB's coach of course.

vailpass
03-16-2009, 09:21 PM
Is that text code for, "We desperately want your quarterback"?

You can type it next time. My parents aren't in the room.

ROFL I'm writing down all you guys' names who are piling on here. Can, Deez, Flop, etc.
One of these days POW! right to the moon!

vailpass
03-16-2009, 09:22 PM
Somewhere. Shanahan is laughing his fucking ass off ROFL.

No doubt about it. And clocking $8million to do so. Damn it must feel good to be a gangsta'.

DeezNutz
03-16-2009, 09:50 PM
ROFL I'm writing down all you guys' names who are piling on here. Can, Deez, Flop, etc.
One of these days POW! right to the moon!

It's karma dishing out 1/50th of the pain some scrub named Elway used to deliver.

Simply Red
03-16-2009, 09:57 PM
http://i41.tinypic.com/ke7rwo.jpg

bdeg
03-16-2009, 10:08 PM
Some Planeteers (intelligent and knowledgeable ones, by the way) are saying that Bowlen would never fire McDaniels because he's already paying Rizzo and it would wind up being just too expensive.

I, however, am not so sure. Frankly, and when you look objectively at the entire situation, firing McDaniels might be the very best way to resolve this situation - at least so far as the goats are concerned. It would mean that this season is in the tank, but it probably is anyway. But, at least they would still have their franchise quarterback in pocket.

FAX

I'm inclined to agree, but the problem with that is that you've just given all the power to Cutler. It might be tough to fill that head-coaching job, and if not, expect issues in the future

Darth CarlSatan
03-16-2009, 11:18 PM
Is that text code for, "We desperately want your quarterback"?

You can type it next time. My parents aren't in the room.

LMAO





http://i41.tinypic.com/ke7rwo.jpg

ROFL Beautifully Appropriate.

BigRock
03-16-2009, 11:44 PM
This talk has got me wondering. Could Sanchez fall to the Donkeys at 12? It looks like The Lions and Lambs will go LT. KC gets Curry. From there, who takes QB? Seattle could take Stafford. Browns, Bengals, Faiders, Packers and Bills have young QB's so they don't take one. The 49er's are probably too gun shy from Alex Smith to pull the trigger. That leaves the Jags between the Donkeys and Sanchez.

Denver doesn't have to worry if Sanzhez is there at #12 or not. Josh Freeman will be.

Darth CarlSatan
03-17-2009, 12:16 AM
Denver doesn't have to worry if Sanzhez is there at #12 or not. Josh Freeman will be.

Oh sweet Jesus make it so!

Oh wait; Bowlen's a racist sack of shit when it comes to QB's, so no dice me thinks.