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jaxchiefsclub
09-20-2001, 12:30 PM
Richardson set to replace Holmes

Running back Priest Holmes, signed as a free agent in the offseason, may have lost his starting job after just one game. The Chiefs, who have used a committee in the backfield since Marcus Allen's retirement, are expected to split time between Holmes and Tony Richardson this weekend against the Giants, according to The Kansas City Star. The newspaper also reported that Richardson is likely to become the featured back. "We really don't have a running-back rotation," coach Dick Vermeil said. "It happens by formation rather than by play. The two rotate according to the rotation package." Holmes had seven carries for 22 yards in his debut against the Raiders.

Don't know that I agree with this, but Richardson has the ability to move the chains.

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Phobia
09-20-2001, 12:47 PM
Will you post the source for this please?

I can't find anything on kcstar.com.

jaxchiefsclub
09-20-2001, 12:54 PM
Sorry about that Kphobia I got it right here at the ESPN.com Chiefs Clubhouse page.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/clubhouse?team=kan

Sorry for the incovenience people.

GO CHIEFS! :cool:

BTW our links page of our website has several great sources for easier searching or CHIEFS news

http://jaxchiefsclub.com/links/index.htm

NaptownChief
09-20-2001, 01:33 PM
This is what I have forecasted from the day we signed Holmes...Not surprised but very disappointed in signing Holmes over Garner....

Bwana
09-20-2001, 01:59 PM
"The newspaper also reported that Richardson is likely to become the featured back."

If this is the case, why the hell did we obtain Holmes?

keg in kc
09-20-2001, 02:15 PM
This is not news folks, we've been splitting carries between the two since training camp started, the only item of interest here is that it shows how little ESPN covers the team in that it's taken them this long to catch on. No big surprise there...

Furthermore, ESPN completely bastardized the article by Teicher, which said this:Priest Holmes' opportunity to make a good first impression is gone.

There's no telling when a chance to make a second impression might come. Perhaps Sunday, when the Chiefs play the New York Giants at Arrowhead Stadium.

Or perhaps not. The Chiefs might feature fullback Tony Richardson rather than Holmes, their halfback.

Chances are, the Chiefs will split the featured-back duties. They did against Oakland in the opener, when Holmes touched the ball eight times (seven carries and a reception) and Richardson 10 (six and four).

Holmes produced just 22 yards and dropped a pass.

That type of balance between Holmes and Richardson could become common for the Chiefs. So Holmes never knows when he will be given a chance to show he deserves to be the featured back.and went on to say this:Game situations, including the score and the opposing defense, will dictate how much each back will be featured.

"We were in a lot of one-back stuff, and that's how it balances out runningwise," coach Dick Vermeil said. "I could see it being close to that (balance over the full season), but it could vary from week to week.

"We really don't have a running-back rotation. It happens by formation rather than by play. The two rotate according to the rotation package. We may do some things contrary to our normal packages, but whenever you run the ball 17 times you're short at least 12 rush attempts. You've got to get up to 29 or 30 attempts, and when you rush as ineffectively as we did early, it scares you out of those rushing attempts."
Clearly, both backs are going to continue to see playing time and may even end up with even carries through the year. How ESPN translated that into "The newspaper also reported that Richardson is likely to become the featured back. " is beyond me...

I'm disappointed in Holmes' first game, but that's all it is at this point -- a poor first game and to base how a guy will play on that is foolish. Hell, let's be fair -- T-Rich had a nice day receiving (4 for 68), but he gained all of 3 yards on 6 carries. Do any of us expect him to have a 0.5 ypc on the ground when all is said and done?

Didn't think so.

Let's see how all this plays out. Calling Holmes a bust after one of the most poorly-played offensive games ever is ridiculous. We outta give the guy another week or two to prove himself. Maybe he will -- maybe he won't.

KCJohnny
09-20-2001, 03:31 PM
Richardson led all AFC backs last year with 4.7 yards-per-touch on over 1,100 yds.

crossbow
09-20-2001, 05:36 PM
Holmes dropped that pass that would have given us a first down.

Jax R8R H8R
09-20-2001, 07:11 PM
I agree this is a "non" story. Nothing new here. But, Holmes sure did stink up the house in week 1. Even beyond the dismal yards per carry average, what hurt to an even greater extent was one critical missed blocking assignment, one pathetic collision with Green in the backfield, and a critical dropped pass. Who knows what could have been, any one of these three plays could have shifted the momentum the other way.

Hoping for a better week for the priest.


GO CHIEFS !

Jax R8R H8R

keg in kc
09-20-2001, 07:19 PM
Let's not get too focused on Holmes or any other single player. Both Waters (not focusing on snaps, btw) and Spears make Holmes' game look all-pro in comparison. Alexander looked at less than half speed and couldn't find the seam in a zone with a map and Snoop was just awful for 58 minutes. Trent Green looked like a QB in his first-ever opening day start until the last series of the game, making bad reads and clearly didn't have his characteristic accuracy.

I would imagine that's about as poor an offensive performance as we can expect this season, and it was a *team* effort in every sense of the word. Everybody was awful.

I saw it another way, too. We were || this far off. Get a little better this week and the difference may be night and day, even against a better defensive team. A few blocks, a better thrown ball here and there and a few less drops and we're a completely different team. I was disappointed in the effort and in the lack of precision, but I see promise and I believe there are good things to come.

mikey23545
09-20-2001, 08:17 PM
A recurring theme I keep seeing on this board is how much lower Richardson's average yards per carry is than Holmes, even during the preseason....Since Richardson is almost always given the ball in any short yardage situations, that will always be true...
I was hoping that Priest Holmes would be a real improvement at RB, but honestly, TR still looks like the man to me, showing much more strength and comparable speed, and is a great receiver out of the backfield....

Taco John
09-20-2001, 09:03 PM
You mean Holmes isn't the next Marshall Faulk afterall? Oh wait... I'm sure NOBODY said that this past offseason...:rolleyes:

TEX
09-20-2001, 10:21 PM
I just have to say it...I TOLD YA SO! :D :D :D

Kclee
12-15-2004, 09:47 AM
You mean Holmes isn't the next Marshall Faulk afterall? Oh wait... I'm sure NOBODY said that this past offseason...:rolleyes:


bump


I just found this little nugget and thought is was funny. Not to pick on you TJ, at the time it looks like anyone could have said this. This just seems how LJ got started here too.

Deberg_1990
12-15-2004, 09:56 AM
bump


I just found this little nugget and thought is was funny. Not to pick on you TJ, at the time it looks like anyone could have said this. This just seems how LJ got started here too.

hahaha.....I hope all of the people who posted negatively about Holmes in this thread ate a huge dose of Crow!!

shakesthecat
12-15-2004, 10:00 AM
This is what I have forecasted from the day we signed Holmes...Not surprised but very disappointed in signing Holmes over Garner....


ROFL
This HAS to be a typo!
Because there's no friggin way Nap could be wrong about player evaluation.

Lzen
12-15-2004, 10:11 AM
The only person on this thread that knew wtf he was talking about was keg. ROFL

Deberg_1990
12-15-2004, 10:13 AM
Holmes didnt "blow up" until the 3rd game that season. The one against Marty in Washington.

John_Wayne
12-15-2004, 10:24 AM
Someone should pull up those anti-Trent Green threads.

HC_Chief
12-15-2004, 10:29 AM
The only person on this thread that knew wtf he was talking about was keg. ROFL

Speaking which, where the hell has keg been anyway?

BigMeatballDave
12-15-2004, 11:15 AM
This is what I have forecasted from the day we signed Holmes...Not surprised but very disappointed in signing Holmes over Garner....
ROFL

Sure-Oz
12-15-2004, 12:06 PM
Poor Taco, wrong about holmes, nothing new there.

Lightning Rod
12-15-2004, 12:57 PM
I am happy not to see my name any place on this thread :thumb:

NewChief
12-15-2004, 01:10 PM
Someone should pull up those anti-Trent Green threads.

Don't have to look far for those. People were still hating last season.

Cochise
12-15-2004, 01:14 PM
Good illustration of the amount of football expertise we have posting on this board.

KCTitus
12-15-2004, 01:17 PM
Good illustration of the amount of football expertise we have posting on this board.

You're going to get a lot of negative rep for questioning peoples fandom!

HC_Chief
12-15-2004, 01:20 PM
Heh, I know I have nothing to fear in regards to comments re: Holmes. I said from day one that he'd be "the man", and boy has he!! :thumb:

Dante Hall, on the other hand...

Cochise
12-15-2004, 01:20 PM
You're going to get a lot of negative rep for questioning peoples fandom!

I'm not saying people aren't fans, I'm saying that a good chunk of the football analysis I read around here makes me wonder if that lead-based paint was a lot more widely used that most people thought.

KCTitus
12-15-2004, 01:22 PM
I'm not saying people aren't fans, I'm saying that a good chunk of the football analysis I read around here makes me wonder if that lead-based paint was a lot more widely used that most people thought.

Recalibrate your sarcasm meter, my good friend...

Cochise
12-15-2004, 01:29 PM
Recalibrate your sarcasm meter, my good friend...

I read you loud and clear, but figured I should clear it up before commenting, for others who would have missed it. (or piled on)

KCTitus
12-15-2004, 02:07 PM
...for others who would have missed it. (or piled on)

it's what I was hoping for...oh well.

KCJohnny
12-15-2004, 06:20 PM
Richardson actually finished 2nd in the NFL (IIRC) in yards-per-touch in 2000, a stat that combines your rushing and receiving yards. Only Tiki Barber had more YPT than T-Rich.

Logical
12-15-2004, 06:26 PM
Richardson actually finished 2nd in the NFL (IIRC) in yards-per-touch in 2000, a stat that combines your rushing and receiving yards. Only Tiki Barber had more YPT than T-Rich.:rolleyes: so what!

KCJohnny
12-15-2004, 06:29 PM
:rolleyes: so what!

So what? That meant that Richardson had earned the #1 spot on the depth chart. Maybe you're too young to remember the 2000 season.

Logical
12-15-2004, 06:30 PM
So what? That meant that Richardson had earned the #1 spot on the depth chart. Maybe you're too young to remember the 2000 season.
ROFL I take it you do not know who I am.


I am Logical

whoman69
12-15-2004, 07:20 PM
So how the heck you pull up these old threads without the search feature?

Kclee
12-16-2004, 07:11 AM
So how the heck you pull up these old threads without the search feature?


You have to switch how many threads you want to view. Mine is at 2 days but for the hell of it I switched it to the 'beginning'. Then I looked at some of the first threads and had to share. Sometimes we can be so off base.

KCJohnny
12-16-2004, 08:57 PM
Logical? Hahahahahahahha! You are a laff riot, Jim!
AS usual, my emotional exclamation points triumph over your "reasoned" pov!

Happy Hannukah!

Logical
12-16-2004, 09:06 PM
Logical? Hahahahahahahha! You are a laff riot, Jim!
AS usual, my emotional exclamation points triumph over your "reasoned" pov!

Happy Hannukah!

Well Happy Kwanzaa to you.












...people are going to be confused by this, I know I am